T-Mobile Dealers Don’t See A Future With AT&T, Worried About Post-Merger State

One group of folks expecting bad news come the passing of the AT&T/T-Mobile merger are the third party dealers amongst a Wall Street Journal reports that 9200 AT&T and T-Mobile stores exist nationwide with around 41% of AT&T stores having a T-Mobile store within one mile. AT&T has unsurprisingly said that a portion of their cost savings will come from “rationalizing real chains, advertising and back-office systems are a big part of the deal’s rationale.”

While AT&T has said they look forward to working with T-Mobile’s independent dealers “in a manner that is mutually beneficial” Wall Street analysts expect consolidation especially in areas where stores are only a few miles apart.

The Wall Street Journal tasked real-estate research firm CoStar Group Inc to track down the locations of every AT&T and T-Mobile store nationwide. Their study found that 41% of AT&T’s stores have at least one T-Mobile store right around a mile away. The overlap is greatest in the west, especially in Denver, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Las Vegas and Los Angeles where the one-mile distance is most likely to occur. For their part T-Mobile says it is still planning on expanding and adding over 200 stores run by independent dealers this year and has offered to sign the leases helping those locations avoid some of the risk. T-Mobile currently runs 2,000 company-owned stores with 1,100 branded partner stores against AT&T’s 2,300 company-owned locations and 3,800 independent ones.

Smaller dealers are right to fear for their future considering AT&T’s existing relationship with third party retailers with plenty of businesses expected to be left in the cold. However, not all T-Mobile dealers see the AT&T deal as bad news, instead seeing opportunity with the influx of a huge new customer base they can tap provided AT&T is willing to work with larger sized independent retailers. Todd Heiner, owner of Express Locations LLC which currently operates over 80 locations in nine states believes a company of his size would fare well. However Mr. Heiner understands that a company operating just five stores would be unlikely to see the same considerations as his company.

Doug Chartier, T-Mobile’s senior vice present for nation accounts and business sales states that the performance of individual locations will help determine where they stand when the AT&T deal closes. “Any business is going to look at their portfolio of assets and say, ‘Boy, what are the ones with the highest returns and the highest value?’” he says.

While third party retailers are often considered less popular as a place for purchase over a retail store it’s hard not to feel for their potential misfortune. A “rash” of store closings especially in outdoor strip malls which are frequently populated by cell phone stores would hit the economy hard. Outdoor strip malls are currently undergoing 10.9% vacancy rates that are expected to rise to a 21 year high this year alone.

But hey, this deal will create jobs, help the economy and give everyone a unicorn right AT&T?

Wall Street Journal

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  • MagentaMadness

    Sales will be the first to be looked at. Approx 40K TMO employees, 21K of which are sales iirc. Everyone should keep their resume updated, have a plan b in place now just in case.

  • Bimmerz

    Funny, I don’t see a future with AT&T either…

  • Bimmerz

    Funny, I don’t see a future with AT&T either…

  • Sgt. Cell

    This deal just doesn’t make sense for anyone other than AT&T. More americans out of work, and for what, so AT&T can eliminate competition?

  • Sgt. Cell

    This deal just doesn’t make sense for anyone other than AT&T. More americans out of work, and for what, so AT&T can eliminate competition?

    • Anonymous

      Welcome to capitalism. Competition and capitalism go together like connecting the north ends of two magnets.

    • Anonymous

      Welcome to capitalism. Competition and capitalism go together like connecting the north ends of two magnets.

    • Anonymous

      Welcome to capitalism. Competition and capitalism go together like connecting the north ends of two magnets.

  • Hamster

    Honestly, I could really do without T-Mo’s third party dealers. My experience with them is atrocious — always trying to pawn off accessories on you that you don’t need because that’s a major source of their income. Misinforming customers about coverage.

    Since there’s no T-Mo store where I live, I just go to Radio Shack now in order to avoid the mall kiosk dealers.

  • Hamster

    Honestly, I could really do without T-Mo’s third party dealers. My experience with them is atrocious — always trying to pawn off accessories on you that you don’t need because that’s a major source of their income. Misinforming customers about coverage.

    Since there’s no T-Mo store where I live, I just go to Radio Shack now in order to avoid the mall kiosk dealers.

  • Hamster

    Honestly, I could really do without T-Mo’s third party dealers. My experience with them is atrocious — always trying to pawn off accessories on you that you don’t need because that’s a major source of their income. Misinforming customers about coverage.

    Since there’s no T-Mo store where I live, I just go to Radio Shack now in order to avoid the mall kiosk dealers.

  • http://twitter.com/jmar0015 Mike No Ike

    I was never a fan of third party dealers. But I do hope something good will come out of this merger. So far all I see is eliminating competition and not giving a chance for the small vendors. 

  • Anonymous

    There’s a new T-Mobile sign on the shopping center billboard in Raytown MO and a vacancy that has begun construction with a building permit dated late May.  I really hope they don’t back out due to this possible Merger because its practically down the street from me.

    • None

      You would be like “Norm” form Cheers in a store that close!

      • Anonymous
        • None

          I can see you walking into the store each week to a loud roar of “pimmmmmmmmmmp”!

        • Anonymous

          Straight buggin them reps tellin em what phones they got comin out and they don’t even know about em yet!! lol Nah I wouldn’t be up in there like that.  I would love the convenience of handling new phones without having to PLAN the drive.

    • None

      You would be like “Norm” form Cheers in a store that close!

    • Rileyscott

      I know for a fact that store is still opening. Hurdles….that’s all I can say. Don’t worry pimp. Its all good.

      • Anonymous

        Goooooood thanx Riley!

    • Rileyscott

      I know for a fact that store is still opening. Hurdles….that’s all I can say. Don’t worry pimp. Its all good.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a new T-Mobile sign on the shopping center billboard in Raytown MO and a vacancy that has begun construction with a building permit dated late May.  I really hope they don’t back out due to this possible Merger because its practically down the street from me.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a new T-Mobile sign on the shopping center billboard in Raytown MO and a vacancy that has begun construction with a building permit dated late May.  I really hope they don’t back out due to this possible Merger because its practically down the street from me.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a new T-Mobile sign on the shopping center billboard in Raytown MO and a vacancy that has begun construction with a building permit dated late May.  I really hope they don’t back out due to this possible Merger because its practically down the street from me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1710314881 Aaron Cooper

    Give those guys access to the “new rural markets” that ATT will be “covering” after the “merger”…. sarcasm off….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1710314881 Aaron Cooper

    Give those guys access to the “new rural markets” that ATT will be “covering” after the “merger”…. sarcasm off….

  • RobCynic

    Why does the article include wording like “…when the merger goes through…” ? I’d like to think there’s still a chance the deal won’t go through. It’s the lazy way for AT&T to gain spectrum.

  • Anonymous

    What I find very smug is the language these companies are using, for example every response is answered by “when this merger is complete” not if this merger is completed. These guys are already talking as if this deal is completed. That is the kind of behind closed doors sneaky crap that is being done and this entire hearing by the goverment is nothing but a smoke screen to keep the public passifide. Taking us for complete fools is what I find very arrogant and pathetic. I am hoping this entire process blows back in their faces and the deal goes flat. What more does the government need to hear, This deal is not good for anyone but AT&T. I have noticed a complete change in the customer service dept for T-Mobile, the entire tone of the conversation was very AT&T like. I don’t imagine things, I am not a very happy T-Mobile customer these days.  Just when my service is the best it’s ever been, my data speeds are lightening fast, I have to worry about this crap. I have put up with slow speeds for a long time hoping we would be where we are now. I have pushed my entire family and many friends to T-Mobile and now it’s don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. 

    • Anonymous

      The problem is that we have NO way of holding AT&T or our regulators accountable short of outright protest, and that doesn’t really work. Look what happened in Wisconsin.

      We are also a little too comfortable, commenting in boxes under articles instead of getting out there and sticking our necks out.

      ;o)

  • I Climbed a Cell Phone Tower

    Tmobile is a great company and i dont think anyone has anything to worry about.  Lets not panic and see this thing through. 

    • Turdnugget0420

      Unfortunately T-Mobile is not in charge after the acquisition so there is a lot to worry about.

    • Turdnugget0420

      Unfortunately T-Mobile is not in charge after the acquisition so there is a lot to worry about.

  • MIKEEEEE

    ever walk into an att store and check the competence of the people there?

    my telecommunication life is going straight to hell when the deal closes.

    if they discontinue wifi calling i’m so screwed.

    att is too cheap to extend DSL 2000 feet after we’ve asked for it for 5 years now and cover another 200 or so customers.

  • MIKEEEEE

    ever walk into an att store and check the competence of the people there?

    my telecommunication life is going straight to hell when the deal closes.

    if they discontinue wifi calling i’m so screwed.

    att is too cheap to extend DSL 2000 feet after we’ve asked for it for 5 years now and cover another 200 or so customers.

  • TypicalWhitePerson

    My gut feeling says this merger might happen, sadly! But if/when it does happen, I’m going where ever the iPhone is going that does NOT say AT&Terrible

    • H8stylist

      so sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock……….baaaaaah

      • None

        I think it is so funny that calling us “sheep” is supposed to be an insult.  It is like calling me a “honkey” — It just makes me giggle and I feel bad for you that sheep is the best people can come up with.
        Like pretending to be something from StarWars is SOOOO mcuh cooler.  HaHa!!

        • H8stylist

          how is actually putting thought into a product purchase related to star wars?  i was just brought up to think for myself and not run for anything with a fruit symbol on the box ,buy it cause everyone else has it, and think that i have the best product.

        • None

          Is a robot on the box much better?

        • H8stylist

          i didn’t get my mytouch slide cause there was a robot on the box (which btw doesn’t exist), i got it cause it was a good design, it had a keyboard, and android is far more customizable than the iphone.  google doesn’t deny apps cause either it doesn’t like them or it’s competitive with their own software.  apps come quicker due to a faster approval process, and the os improves faster due to the open sourcing.

          iphone has good integration with other apple products….

        • None

          You should have said you have a myTouch.  I would not normally argue with a 12 year old.  My apologies.

        • None

          You should have said you have a myTouch.  I would not normally argue with a 12 year old.  My apologies.

        • Anonymous

          What?

    • H8stylist

      so sayeth the shepherd, so sayeth the flock……….baaaaaah

  • Anonymous

    If this deal goes through then we are all in for a world of hurt.  Look at Verizon 

    “$29.99 unlimited data will be discontinued effective 7/7/11
    New data pricing for smart phones is as follows:$30 for 2GB with $10/GB overage
    $50 for 5GB (this also includes business e-mail at no additional charge) with $10/GB overage
    $80 for 10GB (this also includes business e-mail at no additional charge) with $10/GB overageSo all changes effective July 7th, 2011.”Prices WILL BE GOING up and Verizion officially jump started it.  This is probably the same pricing structure we will see ATT adopt soon after the deal because they CAN… 

  • Anonymous

    If this deal goes through then we are all in for a world of hurt.  Look at Verizon 

    “$29.99 unlimited data will be discontinued effective 7/7/11
    New data pricing for smart phones is as follows:$30 for 2GB with $10/GB overage
    $50 for 5GB (this also includes business e-mail at no additional charge) with $10/GB overage
    $80 for 10GB (this also includes business e-mail at no additional charge) with $10/GB overageSo all changes effective July 7th, 2011.”Prices WILL BE GOING up and Verizion officially jump started it.  This is probably the same pricing structure we will see ATT adopt soon after the deal because they CAN… 

    • None

      WOAH

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      This is the same thing I was gonna say. I remember talking to my friend (bff) & said if the “buyout” goes through I’m going to Sprint, & she was like blah… why? She has hinting @ Verizon, which at 1st I was really considering (service, devices, network). & I was like I rather go to Sprint whose gotten better overtime, than Verizon with their ridiculous prices. Must’ve spoke to soon because now they’re data plans have went astronomically high. & this is also what I wrote in my letter to FCC & my State US congressman. I know for a fact that AT&T will follow suit. They already cut their Data plans down to 2GB, & capped their Home DSL service. & on their mobile Data they said they will automatically add on something like $10-$15 for a GB of data if you go over your limit.

      • Anonymous

        Man I don’t know WTF I’m gonna do.  As I’ve said before ATT and Sprint have no coverage over my house(zero bars in my basement), and with these new prices at VZW… aint no way.  I think my last resort is to pray that ATT utilizes the T-Mobile HSPA+ tower near me for their 3G bands.  If not…??  Dunno.

        • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

          Yeah, it’s a mess. I never envisioned myself with no other carrier. T-Mobile just does it for me all around the board. AT&T is a automatic no no, Sprint has good coverage area, & I think also in where I’m transferring to Tennessee. Hope this doesn’t go through though, & you can keep T-Mobile for your service & coverage purposes. 

  • the_truth

    I don’t think this would be quite so scarey if the job loss loss in this economy wasn’t such a factor already. I understand companies merge all the time–and prices go up but peoples livelihoods are at stake here.

    • None

      And they have at least a year to plan. 

      Be thankful. 

      Many people drive to work these days only to find their termination is effective immediately.

  • Turdnugget0420

    It’s a very sad place for employees as it is just a matter of time until thousands get laid off. ATT doesn’t want anything to do with T-Mobile employees, we’re all doomed.

    • None

      Or get another job NOW.  You have warning.  And you can always come back to TMO if the sale does not go through.

    • Cupcake

      True.  But it doesn’t look like T-Mobile does either by the way they are pushing this to happen.  smh

    • Susan

      Yes, AT&T will scrap most the tmobile customer service and customers.  They really only wanted the towers and bandwidth.  They don’t care about the customers.  They have to feed the Iphone bandwidth.

      • None

        Feed me Seymour

  • the_truth

    So true! We’ve been accustomed to pleasing the customers and resolving the issues(JD Powers and all that). I really don’t think AT&T wants employees that are willing to give a little so the customer can feel like they’ve walked away from the call with a win.

    • None

      Can I get some gingerbread with that pat on your own back?

      • the_truth

        Troll? What’s wrong with taking pride in what we do? It made TMO CC was people liked and will miss.

        • None

          I just want to gag when I hear nothing but customer service and how great they are.  It is your job.  It is not like you are ‘personally’ doing me a favor.  You do what the company will allow you to do.  I thank the company, not the person behind the keyboard.

          Now how about that gingerbread?  Samsung has probably released 7 new phones in the time it took to type this message.  Support your older phones!

      • the_truth

        Troll? What’s wrong with taking pride in what we do? It made TMO CC was people liked and will miss.

      • the_truth

        Troll? What’s wrong with taking pride in what we do? It made TMO CC was people liked and will miss.

  • Bigbusinesswinning@apple.com

    Save T-Mobile USA by speaking your mind – write your congressman. 

    • Mopar6464

      It’s to late for that now.

      • Anonymous

        It’s never too late. Here’s a trick, if you hand-address it it will get there faster.

        ;o)

  • CharlieSheen

    It official. March 2012. You people keep buying the phones though. It will be interesting to see what the next iPhone looks like. If it is tri-band it will sell like a harley on roids.

    • CharlieSheenisaMoron

      like we are supposed to believe what Charlie Sheen says haha. Apparently Charlie Sheen knows its official, when even officials dont know its official. Charlie Sheen must be winning!

  • ndh

    lets just cancel our accounts once the buyout goes tru, and lets not let at&trash take a single soul from tmobile .

  • elij

    What cracks me up about this is that I can go to the mall by my house and not only are there 4 AT&T kiosks in the mall, there are two that are side-by-side. 

  • Rick

    Since the plan us to dismantle TMO, I expect most retail locations to be gone not too long after the merger completes.

    And if the merger fails, DT will just sell TMO to someone else, or auction off parts. Retail stores are real estate. Third party resellers have little value.

    Remember, DT has put TMO on the block. They have decided to leave the US market, unless this is a ploy, which is pretty devious. Not likely.

    • Rileyscott

      Your comment about resellers having little value. I just so happen to work for the largest for T-mobile. And our stores consistantly pound the local corporatley owned ones. We are currently a huge asset to T-Mobile and they ask us to take over markets for them and fix them….and we do. So you might want to look into resellers before you speak of them so lightley. Myself, I have concerns for sure. Our company is positioned well with T-Mobile right now….will at&t see us as valuable as tmobile currently does?

      • WirelessRiskExecutive

        While your location may or may not be the exception, third party retailers constitute the biggest amount of retail fraud for any wireless company. Third party retailers do not work for the company they sell for, and therefore are not invested in anything but a commission check. More indirect agents cause retail fraud than any other agent or section of any wireless company. Every wonder why the turnover rate for indirect stores is more volatile than anywhere else, not to mention most indirect stores have no idea what real policy is….they never read policy unless they are forced to, they just know what they need to know to make a sale. Fraud runs rampant at indirect dealers, and you are more likely to find a dealer cheating to get ahead then you are one who does they job well and is 100% honest about everything with a customer. 

        • Rick

          My comment was not about retailers merits, but their value during and after merger.

        • Bigbusinesswinning@apple.com

          So true…We should just let AT&T do it. Not all 3rd party stores are ran this way. I’ve been getting my phones from one for a while now and never had any issues. Competition and JOBS are what we really need right now—– aren’t we in the worst economic recession since the Great Depression ????

      • Rick

        I should be more specific. Your company has little value without tmobile.

      • The ATL Guy

        Well than his comment didnt apply to you did it?
        If you are outperforming than they know it and maybe you wont have to go out of business. 
        But if you do at least you will get plenty of notice. 
        Sucks but as a business owner you should be prepared for this type of crap. 

    • WirelessRiskExecutive

      DT is not leaving the US Market. They are re-positioning. If you keep up to take with actual details of the merger you will know that DT gets a seat on the board of ATT and a percentage of the company. While its not a big foothold in the US Market, it still is a foothold, and on top of that its a foothold that permits ATT to take most of the risk of developing a merged US GSM base. If it failed, DT wont be out much, if it succeeds then DT will be better off. 

      • Rick

        That’s compensation.

      • Bobg

        DT will be better off owning 8% of AT&T and getting a big cash payout.  This is NOT good for consumers though.  Anti-0trust law is not supposed to look at is what is best for the millioniare, it is required to lookout for the comsumer and a healthy ‘market.’ with competition.  Tmo could sell to any of the BIGGER Cell phone companies in Europe or South America and keep tmobile intact.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2H7S4MG6PLQUVOA2CFNMZ2QUQ Ric Desan

    I got advice to ATT, I would worry about the defecting customers if your monopolistic acquisition. I have not renewed my 2 year contract for the express purpose to leave T-mo if the ARE bought. Looks like there are a whole wide range of folks getting screwed byt this deal!!

    • Anonymous

      They keep making me offers to sign a contract but I haven’t thought to respond by saying that I hate the thought of AT&T and I won’t sign anything until I know that I won’t have to deal with them. Hmmmm…

  • D-towntexas

    i own a t-mobile authorized dealer, and i’m telling you, this deal will kill us all,

    • Anonymous

      I wish there was some way I could help. They are talking about how this will help rural communities but I’m just not seeing it. Most rural areas have authorized dealers, and they are the ones getting shut down first, or taken over.

    • Susan

      D-twontexas:
      What are you hearing? does it sound like a done deal or is the governement going to look out for the consumer this time?

  • The ATL Guy

    Welcome to capitalism and the business world. 
    $hit happens companies come and go. 
    Deal with it. 

    • Marcy56

      Did you take ‘Government’ in High School?  Did you go over Anti-trust laws??? What they are for?  We aren’t a complete capitalist system.  REAL capitalism does crush the middle class.
      We try to find a bit of balance–looking out for the ‘little guy.’

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice if the T-Mo’s buyer would be Vodafone, Orange or even Telefonica, then there will be no complains bc competition and jobs will stay in place.

    • Anonymous

      I agree, but the problem there would be that they are all pulling out of the US and putting IN to their own struggling economies as well as rapidly growing economies, like many of those in S. America–Brasil especially.

      The US is a dead end right now. Our jobs are disappearing, our education system is failing, we dont support our farmers, and we have lost our mysterious competitive edge.

      Would you continue to invest in your drunken, drugged up, constantly begging for money, Uncle Sam? Or would you invest in your new and upcoming nephew, who has struggled to empower himself, begun to compete, and has an undying thirst for knowledge coupled with the energy and motivation to make something of himself?

      • HTC Pyramid

        you’re joking right? we don’t support our farmers is a serious misstatement. hell, the govt pays them ‘not to grow’ crops in many instances. do your research. so yeah, the farmers suck on uncles sam’s teats more than a baby does their mother.

      • HTC Pyramid

        you’re joking right? we don’t support our farmers is a serious misstatement. hell, the govt pays them ‘not to grow’ crops in many instances. do your research. so yeah, the farmers suck on uncles sam’s teats more than a baby does their mother.

        • Anonymous

          I already know about subsidy but this is way beyond simple subsidies, this has to do with ecology to patent law; ie, it is over your head.

          People like you think this stuff is very simple. It isn’t. Grownups are talking. Go watch Fox News.

        • None

          It is not a complicated as you would have us believe.  Farmers have a great game going and have for quite some time.

        • Anonymous

          Tell that to my neighbors. I am surrounded by farmers and I get an earful about how they’ve been abandoned left and right, and how large farming corporations are suing them for patent infringement even though through no fault of theirs their crops were tainted by GM seeds. It really IS a lot more complicated than it seems.

        • None

          I would gladly tell it to your neighbors. 

        • None

          I would gladly tell it to your neighbors. 

        • None

          It is not a complicated as you would have us believe.  Farmers have a great game going and have for quite some time.

      • HTC Pyramid

        you’re joking right? we don’t support our farmers is a serious misstatement. hell, the govt pays them ‘not to grow’ crops in many instances. do your research. so yeah, the farmers suck on uncles sam’s teats more than a baby does their mother.

      • Susan

        Brasil has some major telecom companies that could also buy it.  Brazil’s economy is booming and a US market would be huge for them.

        • Anonymous

          Well, yes but I have to add that most of the telecoms there are not Brasilian-owned.

        • Marco9

          Fine use Spain’s Telefonica.  If they invested so heavily in Brazil than they would be willing to invest in the USA.

        • Anonymous

          Brasil is a growing market, a new and emerging market. The US is stagnant. Look at our GDP, it’s continuing to slide. Better yet, what do we produce? What are our needs? Look at our unemployment rates. Look at what we invest in, or better yet, what we DON’T invest in–our children, the environment, etc.

          These are the reasons foreign investors are not interested in much more than buying our real estate and land, and we’re definitely interested in selling it for that fast dime. We’ve got to do better.

      • None

        You are freaking kidding me with the “we dont support our farmers”.  We support our farmers more than we supports schools, athletics, and music programs.  And we wonder why we have lost our competitive edge. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m sadly not kidding. Supporting farmers is more than throwing money at them when their crops suck. I’m talking about what just happened with the levies, what happens with farming education programs, what’s happening with the cut, cut, cut mentality. Look at our food imports vs. exports. All I have to do is look across the street (road, actually) to see how much my neighbors are struggling to make ends meet.

    • H8stylist

      how would another EU company purchasing tmobile solve any issues that tmobile has.  low signal strength indoors can only be fixed with aquiring different and lower signal ratings than they currently use (lower signal ratings penetrate buildings easier).  tmobile has long been considered a value leader in the mobile industry with great customer service.  however, they are still the 4th carrier by a long ways with no prospects of gaining ground anytime soon.  

      what would vodafone, orange, telefonica, or any other outside provider be able to do to change this in the relative short term (within 3 years). DT dumped billions into T-mobile with little return and prospects are looking dim for the future.

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice if the T-Mo’s buyer would be Vodafone, Orange or even Telefonica, then there will be no complains bc competition and jobs will stay in place.

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice if the T-Mo’s buyer would be Vodafone, Orange or even Telefonica, then there will be no complains bc competition and jobs will stay in place.

  • Anonymous

    AT&T is the future for t-mobile customers deal with it the deal will go through the FCC will be brought for the right price. It’s too many big names backing this deal for it to go sour. 

    • Yancy

      Are you forgetting how many big company’s and consumers are against this deal? Far more than any that support the deal. So get your head out of your ass and get the picture that At@t will F**k up T-mobile’s network like they have with all the past merges. Maybe our government should get the F**king picture.

      • Anonymous

        AT&T is not even gonna keep T-Mobile’s network in it’s current state anyway they will rebuild it to their standards. Who really cares about T-Mobile if you ask me they are the ones who are screwing customers with a network that only really works in major cities and in the midwest have you ever traveled and tried using t-mobile service?  This merger will do all t-mobile customers some good they will be able to be on a network (AT&T or Verizon) and actually have coverage. YOU SHOULD REALLY BE HAPPY :). They only downside is that people will lose jobs.  

      • Anonymous

        AT&T is not even gonna keep T-Mobile’s network in it’s current state anyway they will rebuild it to their standards. Who really cares about T-Mobile if you ask me they are the ones who are screwing customers with a network that only really works in major cities and in the midwest have you ever traveled and tried using t-mobile service?  This merger will do all t-mobile customers some good they will be able to be on a network (AT&T or Verizon) and actually have coverage. YOU SHOULD REALLY BE HAPPY :). They only downside is that people will lose jobs.  

        • PatheticLoser

          Your “only” downside is a big downside to many, many people. Trivial to you perhaps. But not to them.

        • Anonymous

          No i would feel bad to see anyone lose their jobs but all this wouldn’t be going on if t-mobile investors didn’t want out, Blame them not AT&T no one can just buy your company from you if your not willing to sell it.

        • PatheticLoser

          Of course DT is ultimately to blame. But T-Mobile has shot itself in the foot by not marketing itself properly for years. Just a damn shame really.

        • Marki

          I blame neither company.  The both make money out of the deal; that is was companies try to do. 
          Anti-trust laws were created to protect the consumer and competition.  The laws don’t care if both companies make money off the deal. 
          If the deal goes through (and I think it will), it ignores the Anti-Trust laws almost to the letter.  But politicians these days are easily bought (and/or are ignorant).

        • None

          Ding Ding Ding… It is all about the marketing.  It always has been.  It always will be.  A good marketing crew can sell you an inferior product at twice the price and have you saying thank you as you walk out the door.  Creative marketing has always been TMOs downfall.
          IF you have a fraction of Verizon’s marketing budget, you make every ad, every spot, every endorsement count.  TMO_USA never did that.  TMO_UK absolutely does. 

        • Susan

          Sorry but Tmobile has pretty much the same person to person foot print as AT&T’s network.  I have Tmobile and my husband has at&T(from his work).  He doesn’t really get better reception than me unless we travel to a pretty much uninhabited region (and then he only lasts so long there too).

      • Anonymous

        AT&T is not even gonna keep T-Mobile’s network in it’s current state anyway they will rebuild it to their standards. Who really cares about T-Mobile if you ask me they are the ones who are screwing customers with a network that only really works in major cities and in the midwest have you ever traveled and tried using t-mobile service?  This merger will do all t-mobile customers some good they will be able to be on a network (AT&T or Verizon) and actually have coverage. YOU SHOULD REALLY BE HAPPY :). They only downside is that people will lose jobs.  

    • Yancy

      Are you forgetting how many big company’s and consumers are against this deal? Far more than any that support the deal. So get your head out of your ass and get the picture that At@t will F**k up T-mobile’s network like they have with all the past merges. Maybe our government should get the F**king picture.

    • Anonymous

      You mean “bought” as in purchased, instead of “brought” as in carried with? What do you know about the FCC?

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for the correction professor. In this great country of ours Americans can be paid off for the right price don’t act like these kind of things don’t happen its not first time and it wont be the last.

        • Tabatha9999

          You tell it like it is. I like the way you talk and you speak the truth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VJSAJUTEKLK3DP44PDJX2WU2TU Robert L

                Well I really do not see what all the fuss is about. Either you are an iPhone lover or you are an Android lover. That is the beauty of being an American, the right to choose. But when it becomes an issue that an Android lover has to push their views on iPhone lovers, or vice versa, then it becomes a problem. I don’t want to have to sit through all that garbage you guys keep writing. Why waste mine, and everybody else’s time? Please give it a rest. So what if your phone is faster. Does it do what you want it to? Great. Let’s move on.
     
                One thing I can’t help but think of is, what if AT&T were to not buy up T-Mobile, but to financially back them like Microsoft did for Apple back in the 90’s? Wouldn’t that be a major coup? T-Mobile can still keep the American market, but be able to hold on for dear life because they were given a financial shot in the arm. I kinda like this idea better than having to switch phone companies and have to deal with crappy customer service or worse off- be a part of a break-up. Why would I want to be someone elses subscriber. I have been with T-Mobile for a very long time. Omni-Point to Voicestream and then finally it was T-Mobile. That is a lot of years! Please T-Mobile, mull that over and get back to us. You are #1 in customer satisfaction, not because of your phones, but because you care. I love that about you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VJSAJUTEKLK3DP44PDJX2WU2TU Robert L

                Well I really do not see what all the fuss is about. Either you are an iPhone lover or you are an Android lover. That is the beauty of being an American, the right to choose. But when it becomes an issue that an Android lover has to push their views on iPhone lovers, or vice versa, then it becomes a problem. I don’t want to have to sit through all that garbage you guys keep writing. Why waste mine, and everybody else’s time? Please give it a rest. So what if your phone is faster. Does it do what you want it to? Great. Let’s move on.
     
                One thing I can’t help but think of is, what if AT&T were to not buy up T-Mobile, but to financially back them like Microsoft did for Apple back in the 90’s? Wouldn’t that be a major coup? T-Mobile can still keep the American market, but be able to hold on for dear life because they were given a financial shot in the arm. I kinda like this idea better than having to switch phone companies and have to deal with crappy customer service or worse off- be a part of a break-up. Why would I want to be someone elses subscriber. I have been with T-Mobile for a very long time. Omni-Point to Voicestream and then finally it was T-Mobile. That is a lot of years! Please T-Mobile, mull that over and get back to us. You are #1 in customer satisfaction, not because of your phones, but because you care. I love that about you.

    • Susan

      Tmoible USA could then be purchased by another Euro giant like: O2, Orange mobile, Vodafone, etc…they are all bigger than AT&T and leave a 4 national cell phone market in the USA.  This is best alternative.  We don’t need at&T to keep the Tmobile ‘network’ together.  We just need another Euro giant to buy the cell phone operation.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W2U4MJ3IM2N24PC3X65ZNJWK2Q Jonathan

        why would you think that if any of those companies like O2, orange mobile, Vodafone would buy t mobile when another company that is based in Europe is trying to sell T mobile USA . It would be a horrible investment for them. and plus Vodafone owns half of Verizon wireless and they would not give up that 49% stake in that company.

        • Hiel T-Mobile!

          Vodafone already owns Verizon… Now way in hell the FCC would approve of that.

      • Jeffrey

        I’v seen in the last couple of months AT&T with Ralph de la Vega at the helm use nasty gorilla tactics against their own customers that tether.Do we really need this monopolizing GSM bully buying Tmobile?

    • None

      I remember Omnipoint and miss VoiceStream!

      • Tabatha9999

        T Mobile bought them for $57 billion, now 10 years later T Mobile is being sold for $39 billion. Do the math the lost $18 billion in 10 years.

        • None

          Sounds like my investments

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VJSAJUTEKLK3DP44PDJX2WU2TU Robert L

                Well I really do not see what all the fuss is about. Either you are an iPhone lover or you are an Android lover. That is the beauty of being an American, the right to choose. But when it becomes an issue that an Android lover has to push their views on iPhone lovers, or vice versa, then it becomes a problem. I don’t want to have to sit through all that garbage you guys keep writing. Why waste mine, and everybody else’s time? Please give it a rest. So what if your phone is faster. Does it do what you want it to? Great. Let’s move on.
     
                One thing I can’t help but think of is, what if AT&T were to not buy up T-Mobile, but to financially back them like Microsoft did for Apple back in the 90’s? Wouldn’t that be a major coup? T-Mobile can still keep the American market, but be able to hold on for dear life because they were given a financial shot in the arm. I kinda like this idea better than having to switch phone companies and have to deal with crappy customer service or worse off- be a part of a break-up. Why would I want to be someone elses subscriber. I have been with T-Mobile for a very long time. Omni-Point to Voicestream and then finally it was T-Mobile. That is a lot of years! Please T-Mobile, mull that over and get back to us. You are #1 in customer satisfaction, not because of your phones, but because you care. I love that about you.

  • TMoFan

    There will be a significant number of layoffs if (not when) this joke of a sellout goes through. There was an authorized T-Mobile store near where I work and I would go in there regularly to kill time. I walked past there this week and everything was gone. I’m sure this sellout played a role is the store’s closure. This is just the start of it. At&t will dump T-Mobile employees faster than the offer they made DT when they were in talks with Sprint. T-Mobile employees are what make T-Mobile so great and has kept me me customer for a decade. Definitely hoping T-Mobile employees have good luck finding other opportunities.

  • TMoFan

    There will be a significant number of layoffs if (not when) this joke of a sellout goes through. There was an authorized T-Mobile store near where I work and I would go in there regularly to kill time. I walked past there this week and everything was gone. I’m sure this sellout played a role is the store’s closure. This is just the start of it. At&t will dump T-Mobile employees faster than the offer they made DT when they were in talks with Sprint. T-Mobile employees are what make T-Mobile so great and has kept me me customer for a decade. Definitely hoping T-Mobile employees have good luck finding other opportunities.

  • TMoFan

    There will be a significant number of layoffs if (not when) this joke of a sellout goes through. There was an authorized T-Mobile store near where I work and I would go in there regularly to kill time. I walked past there this week and everything was gone. I’m sure this sellout played a role is the store’s closure. This is just the start of it. At&t will dump T-Mobile employees faster than the offer they made DT when they were in talks with Sprint. T-Mobile employees are what make T-Mobile so great and has kept me me customer for a decade. Definitely hoping T-Mobile employees have good luck finding other opportunities.

    • theWayofThings

      I don’t think there will be many lay-offs in customer care… T-Mobile is doing its damnedest to fire as many of its reps as it can, and drive as many more to quit… our call center is sea of empty desks and they aren’t hiring anyone to fill those desks. These are dark dark times in customer care… and you customers and us reps alike are going to suffer for it…

      • Tabatha9999

        That is sad that the customer service is getting fired at T Mobile . Is that not interesting that T Mobile is spedning millions on  a frivilous law suit. They have hired 4 of the most expensive attorneys that money can buy and pay for their  flights and hotels. Had it not been for them then your call center could probably afford to stay open.

      • Tabatha9999

        That is sad that the customer service is getting fired at T Mobile . Is that not interesting that T Mobile is spedning millions on  a frivilous law suit. They have hired 4 of the most expensive attorneys that money can buy and pay for their  flights and hotels. Had it not been for them then your call center could probably afford to stay open.

  • TMoFan

    There will be a significant number of layoffs if (not when) this joke of a sellout goes through. There was an authorized T-Mobile store near where I work and I would go in there regularly to kill time. I walked past there this week and everything was gone. I’m sure this sellout played a role is the store’s closure. This is just the start of it. At&t will dump T-Mobile employees faster than the offer they made DT when they were in talks with Sprint. T-Mobile employees are what make T-Mobile so great and has kept me me customer for a decade. Definitely hoping T-Mobile employees have good luck finding other opportunities.

  • PatheticLoser

    I hope some of you aren’t fooling yourselves into believing that this deal hasn’t already been approved. This is all for show. As a matter of fact, I’ve been told of T-Mobile corp stores getting visited by ATT people looking over setups and talking to reps. ATT would not have started this if they couldn’t finish it – not with that kind of a breakup fee. T-Mobile is desperately trying to retain as many customers as possible (get them under contract) so they don’t all flee when the Big Blue Ball drops on us. I feel bad for the employees on the Corp side and the Indirect side. Many will feel the burn.

    • Tabatha9999

      I do not feel sorry for T Mo at all. I know of all the corruption  with this company.

      • CharlieSheenisaMoron

        ok, so if you know of all the corruption then how about you provide proof or even some examples (real examples, not just poorly researched and contrives theories) 

    • Tabatha9999

      I do not feel sorry for T Mo at all. I know of all the corruption  with this company.

  • Tortionist

    You all seem to have some valid point or another. Saying the deal is already done is being nothing but cynical. It’s done as far as you’re concerned. Are you one of these CEO’s or even a part of the FCC, somehow I doubt it. You can’t really know. All you can do is really believe it, which means you may not be right. You’re not stating fact PatheticLoser, just your opinion, kind of like I did on the Iphone blog last night, my mistake, though yours is definitely more opinion than mine was. I choose to have hope that it won’t go through, but I will prepare for and expect the worst. Then I won’t be caught with my pants down. There’s nothing wrong with hope, especially if there’s a very slim chance that the deal doesn’t get approved. 

    • PatheticLoser

      My post was not cynicism. Though you would appear to be completely naive. It was realistic. Take the emotion totally out of it. I don’t particularly want the move to happen – but it’s approved. C’mon. ATT is NOT going public like this unless  they had assurances it would go through. They wouldn’t want the black eye of having the government bitch slap them. It’s done. T-mobile would also (and has) suffer from this. There’s no way this deal can’t and won’t go through.

      • Tortionist

        I would disagree. I don’t think it’s done. I am definitely not naive. If hope is naive, then I guess I couls be construed as naive, but thinking you know the answer when you don’t have all the facts/factors would make you more naive than me. When Bill Gates went to court over his web browser, nobody thought that the U.S. government would bitch slap him, being the richest man in the world at the time, but they did. So it appears your reality on this subject is based off of faulty logic, if you get my drift. I’m not saying you’re dumb, just that your perceived reality is nothing more than perceived at this point. You may end up being right, but you can’t possibly know what’s going on in the minds of AT&T, T-mobile USA, Deutsche Telekom, the FCC, etc. History is filled with people that thought something was a reality, only to find out they were wrong. I’d be a little more careful in my statements if I were you. You can’t read minds and that’s what this amounts to. There are many factors in this situation that you  and most everyone else would know nothing about, factors that could realistically keep this buyout from happening. I do think there’s a good chance of it happening, but then on the other hand, there’s also a chance this won’t happen. End of story. 

      • Tortionist

        I would disagree. I don’t think it’s done. I am definitely not naive. If hope is naive, then I guess I couls be construed as naive, but thinking you know the answer when you don’t have all the facts/factors would make you more naive than me. When Bill Gates went to court over his web browser, nobody thought that the U.S. government would bitch slap him, being the richest man in the world at the time, but they did. So it appears your reality on this subject is based off of faulty logic, if you get my drift. I’m not saying you’re dumb, just that your perceived reality is nothing more than perceived at this point. You may end up being right, but you can’t possibly know what’s going on in the minds of AT&T, T-mobile USA, Deutsche Telekom, the FCC, etc. History is filled with people that thought something was a reality, only to find out they were wrong. I’d be a little more careful in my statements if I were you. You can’t read minds and that’s what this amounts to. There are many factors in this situation that you  and most everyone else would know nothing about, factors that could realistically keep this buyout from happening. I do think there’s a good chance of it happening, but then on the other hand, there’s also a chance this won’t happen. End of story. 

        • MagentaMadness

          Like stated, if the slight chance this doesn’t go through, ATT is
          to “reward” Tmo with $3 billion(which is 1 years worth of Tmo’s
          OPEX)…and some spectrum(again maybe another couple years worth?)  If this doesn’t go though, someone else will…either way Tmo WILL be sold. If not, at this point, Tmo’s network will be saturated in approx 3-4 years. Meaning we’re running out of spectrum and won’t be able to add any more customers. No new customers, no new income, no Tmo. End of story :)

          For Micheal “The goverment doesn’t seem to be there for the people anymore”
          Just like ATT and Tmo, the government is a business(i.e., this is where everyone buys their spectrum from). They’ll try to make it seem like they’re looking out for the people…be we all know whats up.

          In the end, from a business standpoint…ATT is the best fit, and here is why…both networks are almost identical, especially from the hardware aspect between equip out in the field and the switches. Right now, the only thing keeping Tmo customers from accessing ATT’s network and vice versa is the LAC’s between us are blocked. Unlock the LAC’s and boom, both networks will talk to eachother. Of course there will be other works to fine tune everything, but from an engineering standpoint, its fairly easy. I can go on and on but I have to get back to work lol…speaking of which I myself am an employee of Tmo, and although I would like to have Tmo keep signing my pay check, I believe this can open up many avenues of opportunity.

        • Tortionist

          I understand that. I personally wish it were google, but that’s life.

        • MagentaMadness

           I concur, that would of been nice.

        • MagentaMadness

           I concur about GOOGLE, not Apple…lol)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • None

          LOL.  I was half-joking anyway.  Only half.  :)

        • MagentaMadness

           I concur, that would of been nice.

        • None

          I wish it had been Apple

        • Tabatha9999

          It will happen. The only thing that needs to be done is the FCC has to be “convinced ” that it is in the pulic best interest. ATT has already paid off GlAAD , NEA and NCAAP to lie to the FCC.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          you have posted this claim many times, so you must have some insider info. how about instead of being a moronic conspiracy theorist and spouting random claims that you provide some proof. Or if I was to say you were a pansy ass girl who wears thongs on your head while dressed in a chicken suit while your grandpa spanks you with a frying pan…..then just cause i say it without proof it must be true huh?

        • Tabatha9999

          It will happen. The only thing that needs to be done is the FCC has to be “convinced ” that it is in the pulic best interest. ATT has already paid off GlAAD , NEA and NCAAP to lie to the FCC.

      • Tortionist

        I would disagree. I don’t think it’s done. I am definitely not naive. If hope is naive, then I guess I couls be construed as naive, but thinking you know the answer when you don’t have all the facts/factors would make you more naive than me. When Bill Gates went to court over his web browser, nobody thought that the U.S. government would bitch slap him, being the richest man in the world at the time, but they did. So it appears your reality on this subject is based off of faulty logic, if you get my drift. I’m not saying you’re dumb, just that your perceived reality is nothing more than perceived at this point. You may end up being right, but you can’t possibly know what’s going on in the minds of AT&T, T-mobile USA, Deutsche Telekom, the FCC, etc. History is filled with people that thought something was a reality, only to find out they were wrong. I’d be a little more careful in my statements if I were you. You can’t read minds and that’s what this amounts to. There are many factors in this situation that you  and most everyone else would know nothing about, factors that could realistically keep this buyout from happening. I do think there’s a good chance of it happening, but then on the other hand, there’s also a chance this won’t happen. End of story. 

  • Michael

    Xm and Sirius satelite merged and became a satellite radio monopoly in a America.I don’t see why the FCC won’t allow AT&T to merge with Tmobile and become the largest GSM monopoly in America.The goverment doesn’t seem to be there for the people anymore and I expect the deal to go thru.I don’t think the word antitrust will come up.

    • Tortionist

      You have a point and i’m glad you’re using the term “I think it will happen” instead of “it will happen”. That shows some maturity, instead of ” I know it all”.

    • Tortionist

      You have a point and i’m glad you’re using the term “I think it will happen” instead of “it will happen”. That shows some maturity, instead of ” I know it all”.

    • Tortionist

      You have a point and i’m glad you’re using the term “I think it will happen” instead of “it will happen”. That shows some maturity, instead of ” I know it all”.

    • Jimk

      XM and Siruis both show that the satellite radio was failing as a technology and industry.  They offered the merger as the only way the entire technology would remain viable.

      The AT&T and Tmobile case are NOTHING like the satellite radio case.  All of the cell phone companies are viable.  DK (T-mobiles parent) was not going to file bankruptcy NOW or after a failed merger.

      • None

        Sidenote:  As a Sirius/XM subscriber, I feel the programming got MUCH better after they merged.  I am hoping for the best with my TMO and ATT.  I am hoping to be surprised.  :)

        • Lewis

          I have SiriusXm Radio and I recently had to suspend their service because of their crappy programming.i won’t reactivate until their service gets better.As an AT&T customer I wish Tmobile customers plenty of luck because you are going to need it.Cellphone companies are getting real nasty with customers because of data usage.Can you believe it ,treat customers like crap because of data usage,unbelievable.Good Luck!

      • Michael

        The Xm Sirius merge wasn’t such a sweet deal for satellite radio customers .The FCC approved the satellite radio monopoly and later there was a class action lawsuit brought against Sirius for screwing their customers.The FCC should know Better then to oin in the fleecing of the American public.

        • Tabatha9999

          The FCC does not care about the public.

        • CharlieSheenisaMoron

          really? thats why the fcc is going further into trying to flesh out atts wrongful claims then they do on most mergers. Not to mention the fcc chairman outspoken in saying he will try and deny the merger?

        • Screwymatt

          “FCC Commissioner Meredith Attwell Baker, fresh from approving the merger of Comcast and NBC Universal, is leaving her post to take a job at Comcast. It’s O.K. because it’s transparent. [NYT]”

          Stuff like this gives me no hope in the people elected to protect us from mergers like this.

        • Mike

          This is true ,When America went Digital with television Comcast told their customers that they didn’t have to worry about getting digital boxes because they had cable and would not be affected.Comcast was right but they then started switching off channels and forcing their customers to go digital and get digital boxes for every room.

        • Tabatha9999

          The FCC does not care about the public.

        • Tabatha9999

          The FCC does not care about the public.

      • http://spritemoney.myopenid.com/ Andrew

        *DT

      • http://spritemoney.myopenid.com/ Andrew

        *DT

    • Tabatha9999

      It depends on wether they are paid off.

    • Tabatha9999

      It depends on wether they are paid off.

      • CharlieSheenisaMoron

        you are an idiot right? that must explain it

  • Michael

    Xm and Sirius satelite merged and became a satellite radio monopoly in a America.I don’t see why the FCC won’t allow AT&T to merge with Tmobile and become the largest GSM monopoly in America.The goverment doesn’t seem to be there for the people anymore and I expect the deal to go thru.I don’t think the word antitrust will come up.

  • Tidybown56

    Does anyone know why Tmobile is for sale? I heard the Germans are selling Tmobile because they think United States is going down the toilet.

    • Tortionist

      That could be it. Who knows at this point other than Deutsche Telekom?

    • Tortionist

      That could be it. Who knows at this point other than Deutsche Telekom?

    • Tortionist

      That could be it. Who knows at this point other than Deutsche Telekom?

    • Tabatha9999

      T Mobile spent millions on frivilous laws suits having 4 attorneys per case and flying them all over the country.

    • Tabatha9999

      T Mobile spent millions on frivilous laws suits having 4 attorneys per case and flying them all over the country.

      • CharlieSheenisaMoron

        this is actually a common expense for any company and not an indicator of poor financial management on a business standpoint. 

      • Hiel T-Mobile!

        Duetche Telecom (The German Company that owns the T-Mobile brand including T-mobile US) Has had Tmo US on the market for a few years now because the main stock holder in DT is The German government.. The German Government has denied DT any funding that would go to “Non German interests” which means all iterations of Tmobiler (UK, US and anywhere that’s NOT T-Mobile Germany) in order to curb its spending budget in this economy.. It’s basic econiomics folks.. Tmo is getting sold one way or another.. the big question is whether ATT does it or some other company.

    • Tabatha9999

      T Mobile spent millions on frivilous laws suits having 4 attorneys per case and flying them all over the country.