T-Mobile Pushing FlexPay Conversion To Postpaid, Proof FlexPay Is Going Away?

On the heels of yesterdays post regarding the rumors FlexPay will soon find itself sleeping with the fishes, T-Mobile asks reps to assist qualified FlexPay customers to switch to postpaid. What you see is what you get with this story so anything beyond what’s written on the image above is a guessing game at this point but it provides a little more evidence that something might be up with FlexPay.

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  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I don’t understand the point (from the consumer’s perspective), they’re on FlexPay for a reason, & unless postpaid prices are cheaper (which they aren’t), it’s not benefiting them. That’s why I’m on Even More +. I mean compared to the other carrier’s T-Mobile is reasonably cheap/affordable. But, even with my loyal retentions data plan ($20 Android preferred data plan), I still have to pay $10 for unlimited messaging, then add on my voice plan, $7-$10 worth of taxes, alone. Then, my insurance (if I want it) is another $6. I end up paying like a close $100 for a individual plan, not coo…

    • http://twitter.com/Plouis1988 Patrick Pierre-louis

      Flexpay are limited on number of lines and cant take advantage of any of the offers that T-mobile has. Like the free phone promotion last week. Plus Flexpay customers always have to pay upfront when making changes on their accounts so it does benefit them. As far as taxes go write to your elected officials about that.

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

        I figure it was flexpay for a reason, once again. They aren’t trying to get free phone promotions? month to month? or are you talking about flex pay with contract (which I could never understand in the 1st place). 2, I’m talking about a single line. Never said there was a problem with taxes, I just brung it up because it’s included on the bill.

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

        I figure it was flexpay for a reason, once again. They aren’t trying to get free phone promotions? month to month? or are you talking about flex pay with contract (which I could never understand in the 1st place). 2, I’m talking about a single line. Never said there was a problem with taxes, I just brung it up because it’s included on the bill.

        • Will-I-Am not

          no flex pay accounts qualified for the free phones promotion that happened last week.

      • Prod1702

        Sry but thats wrong flex pay did get to take part in the free phone if they signed a 2 year and had a 100% upgrade. They did have to have a contract rate plan do to this. I know since i am a RSA.

        • Whatismyaccountnumber

          Sorry but that’s wrong also. Maybe in your market but most major markets disqualify flexpay from any phone promos that T-Mobile is running. I would suggest confirming this with your RSL, RAM, RSM before the corporate auditors find out.

        • Prod1702

          Flexplay is only disqualified if they are on a monthly setup unable to have a 2 year rate plan which some are. The ones that have a 2 year Even More are fine. Either way Flex is a pain to deal with getting rid of it is for the better.

        • Whatismyaccountnumber

          Flexpay Annual Credit Class M is disqualified in my market. Only exception most RSMs would make would be on a flex to post conversion with qualified upgrades. Please stop passing around false information.

        • camodood

          M class couldn’t do it in my market either. sounds like prod is going to have some angry customers in 6-8 weeks :)

        • Hurricaneswain

          Ya definitely wrong… MIR for the promotion listed post-paid customers only, you may have offered it to them in store since the upgrade path showed eligibility but they sure wont be getting their mail in

        • dcb

          That is big correct….the promo was only for post paid…..the in store price was showing eligible for fkex pay but they will not get the mir to make the phone free….I hope you didn’t tell to very many flex customers because they will be disappointed and coming back to you for answers.

        • dcb

          Incorrect….not big correct….sorry

        • Anonymous

          youre incorrect buddy boy… “i know because i’m an RSA” – LMAO!!!!

        • really?!

          no there weren’t suppose to, the promotion was for POST only ..

    • http://twitter.com/Plouis1988 Patrick Pierre-louis

      Flexpay are limited on number of lines and cant take advantage of any of the offers that T-mobile has. Like the free phone promotion last week. Plus Flexpay customers always have to pay upfront when making changes on their accounts so it does benefit them. As far as taxes go write to your elected officials about that.

    • http://twitter.com/Plouis1988 Patrick Pierre-louis

      Flexpay are limited on number of lines and cant take advantage of any of the offers that T-mobile has. Like the free phone promotion last week. Plus Flexpay customers always have to pay upfront when making changes on their accounts so it does benefit them. As far as taxes go write to your elected officials about that.

    • Daniel

      It benefits by the bill going down , instead of up when not being able to pay it on time.

    • Daniel

      It benefits by the bill going down , instead of up when not being able to pay it on time.

    • Daniel

      It benefits by the bill going down , instead of up when not being able to pay it on time.

    • Daniel

      It benefits by the bill going down , instead of up when not being able to pay it on time.

    • Tito!

      That’s how my bill is. LMFAO!

    • really?!

      flex pay is because of credit….it has nothing to do with HOW MUCH THEY PAY ( people do not choose flex pay there put on it because t mobile doesn’t have deposits and instead people with crappy credit are put on flex pay

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

        Clearly, I said, I don’t understand. Don’t use the big text as if I’m slow when I said I don’t understand the point. & I was using 1 aspect of it from “my perspective”: price. If it’s because of credit, why would they even wanna move to a postpaid plan, & pay a deposit? It’s not necessarily benefiting them. 1, if they have credit issue’s, how would it benefit them to have to pay a deposit & potentially pay more with a postpaid plan that’ll go on their credit? Once again, it’s Flexpay going to Postpaid (credit, contract). Where’s their benefit? Cheaper phone’s?

  • DavidOhio

    Yep, my friend who is a retail store manager told me today that T-mobile will NO longer offer FlexPay after March 23rd. Those on FlexPay may keep it as they will be grandfathered.

  • DavidOhio

    Yep, my friend who is a retail store manager told me today that T-mobile will NO longer offer FlexPay after March 23rd. Those on FlexPay may keep it as they will be grandfathered.

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    Is getting rid of flexpay good or bad?

    Why get rid of it?

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    IS getting rid of Flexpay good or bad?

    Why get rid of it?

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    IS getting rid of Flexpay good or bad?

    Why get rid of it?

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    IS getting rid of Flexpay good or bad?

    Why get rid of it?

    • Mbregar13

      FlexPay is good, in that it offers a more affordable solution to ‘credit-impaired’ customers at the point of activation. It is no cheaper for them over the term of the contract, just allows them to avoid a deposit.

      FlexPay is bad, in that there are often ‘payment processing’ issues at the point of activation at some agent locations, usually when activation occurs over the phone manually. This leads to service interruption for the customer in some cases, and an overall customer service headache. It also causes problems for customers who want to change their plan/features and can’t get a clear answer as to how much it will cost them at the point of change. They can’t get account service at many of the locations where they got their phone, because the store isn’t set up to accept payments, etc…

      Switching away from FlexPay (if this is true) is a win-win, permitting that the new deposit amounts have been reported correctly. Customers that would have previously been FlexPay Contract will have a comparable cost of entry, but will be regarded as ‘regular’ post-paid customers throughout their tenure as a customer. This WILL improve their overall experience as a customer.

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    Meaning?

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    Meaning?

  • http://twitter.com/EzzyNYC Marc Klein

    Meaning?

  • Jonathon

    Flex pay is the worst concept ever. Sorry I’ve worked at a carrier that takes deposits and those customers stay long enough to get that deposit back. Flex pay customers for the most part always deact within 6 months and how about that we get a commission charge back. I’ve heard nothing official on if it it is going or staying yet but I really hope Flex Pay goes away for good so A. I can make money, and B T-mobile will have less customer churn.

    • Anonymous

      I have been on a flexpay account for over a year never made a late payment. I like the lower payments. Not everyone is the same.

      • Mbregar13

        What lower payments? The plans are identical, except for the fact that flexpay customers are subject to a $5.00/month flexfee. (Fee is waived upon EasyPay setup).

        I think you may be getting FlexPay confused with Even More Plus, which DOES offer a discounted monthly recurring charge.

        • Anonymous

          hmmm well when I log into tmobile.com it says Even More Plus/Flexpay.

        • remixfa.

          sven, even more plus is a no contract plan. You can do it on flexpay or postpay. You get no discount on flexpay. You actually get an extra $5.00 control charge unless you set up easypay. Then it is the same as post, but you NEVER have a cheaper plan than post is eligible for. They sometimes actually get extra special plans that flex wont see.

        • remixfa.

          sven, even more plus is a no contract plan. You can do it on flexpay or postpay. You get no discount on flexpay. You actually get an extra $5.00 control charge unless you set up easypay. Then it is the same as post, but you NEVER have a cheaper plan than post is eligible for. They sometimes actually get extra special plans that flex wont see.

  • Jonathon

    Flex pay is the worst concept ever. Sorry I’ve worked at a carrier that takes deposits and those customers stay long enough to get that deposit back. Flex pay customers for the most part always deact within 6 months and how about that we get a commission charge back. I’ve heard nothing official on if it it is going or staying yet but I really hope Flex Pay goes away for good so A. I can make money, and B T-mobile will have less customer churn.

  • Simpappeal

    I am a flexpay customer on even more with 2yr agreement. I’m wondering what is going to happen to me?

  • http://twitter.com/sancaradali Sancar

    I tried several times to turn my flexpay account into a postpaid account several times, and they wouldn’t let me. Appearantly I wasn’t eligible, even though I make the payments on time every month for two years

    • Allstar7610

      You aren’t the only one

    • bryan

      I have NEVER seen a flexpay customer who had their credit run when they started their account that was eligible to convert to postpaid.

      The qualifications for postpaid conversion are 12 month or older account and at least 6 months no suspensions or late payments.

      • camodood

        easy pay helps soo much when it comes to converting n and m class credit to o class. the best thing you can do if you have a customer that wants to go from flex to post and is not approved when you check the pre-approved list, is to set them up on easy pay.

      • camodood

        easy pay helps soo much when it comes to converting n and m class credit to o class. the best thing you can do if you have a customer that wants to go from flex to post and is not approved when you check the pre-approved list, is to set them up on easy pay.

      • camodood

        easy pay helps soo much when it comes to converting n and m class credit to o class. the best thing you can do if you have a customer that wants to go from flex to post and is not approved when you check the pre-approved list, is to set them up on easy pay.

      • camodood

        easy pay helps soo much when it comes to converting n and m class credit to o class. the best thing you can do if you have a customer that wants to go from flex to post and is not approved when you check the pre-approved list, is to set them up on easy pay.

    • bryan

      I have NEVER seen a flexpay customer who had their credit run when they started their account that was eligible to convert to postpaid.

      The qualifications for postpaid conversion are 12 month or older account and at least 6 months no suspensions or late payments.

  • http://twitter.com/sancaradali Sancar

    I tried several times to turn my flexpay account into a postpaid account several times, and they wouldn’t let me. Appearantly I wasn’t eligible, even though I make the payments on time every month for two years

  • Tito!

    I rather keep FlexPay :)

  • Noneyabusiness

    really??? I convert people all the time but only after looking the pre-qualified list… dude im soo trying that!!!

    • whocares

      i’ve turned down so many people that havent been on the list, i guess i’ll give it a shot tomorrow at work and see if i can get the switch.

      • tmofosho

        iv never had this work…i even had a customer get a 3rd line on flex annual before they would convert them to post

      • tmofosho

        iv never had this work…i even had a customer get a 3rd line on flex annual before they would convert them to post

      • tmofosho

        iv never had this work…i even had a customer get a 3rd line on flex annual before they would convert them to post

  • Jeter_81

    Thank God! Flexpay was the worst thing T-Mobile ever carried, followed by the GC89 card and @Home (only cause customers didn’t know how to set it up properly).

  • http://www.facebook.com/jabe3 James Abe

    i am on a flexpay even more 2 yr. i was able to take part in the valentine free phone promo i just started my flex pay this month (feb) what happens to me in march, i think the whole flex pay idea is awesome for customers who get turnend down by other carriers with a huge deposit. thank u tmobile for giving the lilttle guy a chance. good while it lasted i guess

    • Matt

      Someone screwed up – you shouldn’t have been able to participate in the promotion. It was for postpaid only, but a system error allowed non-eligible flexpay customers to get free phones. Your sales rep did not pay attention and was supposed to override prices to normal.

      • remixfa.

        dunno what market your in, but in our market it said the everything free event was available to “all contract customers”. It made no distinction between flex and post.

        • Anonymous

          The the post right here on TMONews stated that it was for postpaid customers only. As did all signs in the store

          <— Great Lakes, Midwest Hellhole

        • Vote4fairtax

          im in the FL region. our posters said no such thing and our bosses said to go for it as long as they were full upgrade. SO if it does come back like u say it will, its not on our heads, and our bosses will be pushing a lot of credits.. lol. doesnt bother me at all as long as people stick to what they said.

      • remixfa.

        dunno what market your in, but in our market it said the everything free event was available to “all contract customers”. It made no distinction between flex and post.

    • Matt

      Someone screwed up – you shouldn’t have been able to participate in the promotion. It was for postpaid only, but a system error allowed non-eligible flexpay customers to get free phones. Your sales rep did not pay attention and was supposed to override prices to normal.

  • http://twitter.com/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    After a while, there will no contracts…and carriers will start charging full cost for phones. Giving the opportunity to have great price plans.

    • Bumrocky

      They tried that. It was called Nexus 1 and Even More Plus.

      • Anonymous

        Tried? Still exists

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=523210155 Conrad Cody Cline

    I find it funny how some reps find that their judgement on what should happen to a customer is better than the judgement of a company and hours of research that the company does. No wonder there are so many new policies that have to be enforced to prevent dealer fraud.

  • Anonymous

    What exactly is postpaid?

    • Anonymous

      postpaid is in the title.. post+paid. pay after you use, meaning you are billed for your services which requires a higher credit class than pre+paid, pay before you use.

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for clearing that up. Post paid is dumb to me though don’t know why anyone would want to switch to this.

        • remixfa.

          other than the fact that you get more benifits + no control charge + more billing to the accounts + more line availibility + the ability to buy data products like the computers/tablets and service + special upgrade deals (in some markets) + special new line deals that arent always available to flexpay + the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing your credit DOESNT suck… flexpay is absolutely better then.. lol

    • Anonymous

      postpaid is in the title.. post+paid. pay after you use, meaning you are billed for your services which requires a higher credit class than pre+paid, pay before you use.

  • Anonymous

    What exactly is postpaid?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen a few false bits of information here so i will clear it up.

    1. This is nothing new, this whole post/thread is kind of pointless because the flexpay to postpaid conversion list has been around for months now. It’s not really news, the only thing is they are talking about it more lately with the impending halt on OFFERING flexpay. It doesnt mean if you have it you will change. As someone intelligently stated in a prior post, there are still customers on smart access, you are grandfathered in, until you change your rate plan or upgrade.
    2. There really arent any true benefits to being on flexpay unless you are on a monthly plan, are the type that doesnt really pay your bill on time and would rather pay a prorated amount halfway into the month. That is a very small group. In most cases you will pay more on flexpay because of the control charge which can only be wiped if you have easy-pay set-up. Any price plan available to you on flexpay can be had on a postpaid EM+ or EM. Fact is that prepaid is actually a more suitable option in most cases (except for those that tether their phone or eat up data {which is less than 1% of FP customers}) Flexpay offers no benefit, just restrictions, like paying up front for everything, not being eligible for promotions.
    3. Flexpays have historically never been eligible for any promotions since promotions are geared towards Core growth and retention. Core being postpaid. So NO they were NOT eligible for the promotion this weekend. If you sold someone a phone or were mistakenly told by your manager, district manager or anyone in the store, you WILL have angry customers asking why they’re not getting their rebates, which they will most definitely NOT receive since they were ineligible. Just the same as they were ineligible for BOGO. They are however eligible for the 1/2 off HTC phones since that is just a price point and not a special.

    So in short, anyone with a flexpay now that thinks they are winning is sorely mistaken. There is no better price on flexpay, just restrictions, upfront payments, fees, and outsourced care reading from a script. You can keep your number if you are pre-qualified which really only requires 6 months of regular on time payment (just set up an easy pay). Whoever the guy is below that thinks that calling care and threatening that a subprime customer is planning to leave can force them into putting them on postpaid clearly doesnt understand his job and is also just as clearly making it up. Eligibility is based upon tenure and behavior score. There are other ways to keep your number but are too complicated to explain.

    This is a huge win for the customers, the employees, and the organization. Customers are FP are usually much more unhappy and a get a second rate experience with T-Mobile. Employees hate dealing with FP customers because 9x out of 10 they dont understand FP or why they have FP and they also have to work with FP Care. We also lose countless customers on FP to Sprint and Regional carriers so it’s a win all around.

    • Tmoguy

      I believe I am winning on flexpay month to month. No cancellation fees if I decide to cut off my service for whatever reason and I am paying $59.99 a month for 500 mins + unlimited web + unlimited text. That plan is not even available to postpaid customers.

      • Mbregar13

        Unlimited web on what type of device? Def not an andoid/bb/winphone. That $60/month was the exact same price that all customers had available to them… not just fpm2m. Notice I said ‘had’ available to them. Since the new $10(15)/200MB plan rolled out, non-smartphone customers can no longer get unlimited for $10, and the same goes for fpm2m customers. Nothing special has ever been granted to flexpay customers, outside of maybe a lower cost of entry compared to previous deposit amounts. With the new ‘rumored’ deposit amounts, this is no longer an issue.

        • Tmoguy

          lol. I have unlimited web on a mytouch 3g and i have easy pay set up. I prefer no contract, no overage charges, no hassle.

        • Anonymous

          the problem is when you have a customer service issue and you have to deal with care. Quite frankly though, you’re on a blog, clearly you’re tech savvy enough to use the tmobile application for your phone and manage any overages, although I cant imagine what overage you would run into. The MyTouch 3G is a pretty old phone, if you had a post account, you would be paying the same amount but be able to bill phones on to your account in installments so that you could get you a nice phone without having to pay all that money up front. To each their own obviously. As someone very familiar with the processes of flexpay and postpaid. There really isnt an advantage to being on flexpay. Just restrictions and second rate service.

        • Loconene69

          Not really because I have FP and I have never complained and customer care was great for me. I love FP. I’m a be 3 years and its been great. Sad to see FP go.

        • Loconene69

          Not really because I have FP and I have never complained and customer care was great for me. I love FP. I’m a be 3 years and its been great. Sad to see FP go.

        • Tmoguy

          lol. I have unlimited web on a mytouch 3g and i have easy pay set up. I prefer no contract, no overage charges, no hassle.

      • Mbregar13

        Unlimited web on what type of device? Def not an andoid/bb/winphone. That $60/month was the exact same price that all customers had available to them… not just fpm2m. Notice I said ‘had’ available to them. Since the new $10(15)/200MB plan rolled out, non-smartphone customers can no longer get unlimited for $10, and the same goes for fpm2m customers. Nothing special has ever been granted to flexpay customers, outside of maybe a lower cost of entry compared to previous deposit amounts. With the new ‘rumored’ deposit amounts, this is no longer an issue.

      • Mbregar13

        Unlimited web on what type of device? Def not an andoid/bb/winphone. That $60/month was the exact same price that all customers had available to them… not just fpm2m. Notice I said ‘had’ available to them. Since the new $10(15)/200MB plan rolled out, non-smartphone customers can no longer get unlimited for $10, and the same goes for fpm2m customers. Nothing special has ever been granted to flexpay customers, outside of maybe a lower cost of entry compared to previous deposit amounts. With the new ‘rumored’ deposit amounts, this is no longer an issue.

      • Nic

        That same plan is offered to postpaid customers. Its an Even More Plus plan so yes postpaid customers can get it too. You’re probably still not winning because unless you’re signed up for easy pay, you’re paying an extra $5 for the control charge.

    • raduque

      I am on Flexpay and I purchased a Vibrant the day it came out. $250, OTD, got my $50 MIR, too.

  • Nic

    I love the people saying Flexpay is cheaper. The same plans are offered on flexplay and postpaid. If you don’t have easy pay set up, you actually pay $5 more for flexpay.

  • Nic

    I love the people saying Flexpay is cheaper. The same plans are offered on flexplay and postpaid. If you don’t have easy pay set up, you actually pay $5 more for flexpay.

  • Nic

    I love the people saying Flexpay is cheaper. The same plans are offered on flexplay and postpaid. If you don’t have easy pay set up, you actually pay $5 more for flexpay.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Rodriguez/100000867104995 Jeffrey Rodriguez

      he’s right the only thing that is cheaper is even more plus instead of even more the flexpay is the same actually you even pay more if you dont have automatic payment

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Rodriguez/100000867104995 Jeffrey Rodriguez

      he’s right the only thing that is cheaper is even more plus instead of even more the flexpay is the same actually you even pay more if you dont have automatic payment

  • JoeJohn

    I am a white male, in my late 20s. I have a good credit score and I am currently using a (rooted) HTC Mytouch Slide. I chose to be in Flex Pay because it stops you from overage charges. That is about the only benefit to having FlexPay. I have been asked to convert by CSR’s plenty of times. I just dont see a reason too. I still get a phone discount every two years. I just dont call into customer service. LOL

    • Anonymous

      That and no activation fee
      Why’d you repeat the good credit score part twice though?

  • some_dude

    quick question how do you get to that “pre qualified” list? if on a flexpay they DO NOT ask for a social security number?

    • Nic

      If you’re on a contact with flexpay then we do ask for the social.

      • some_dude

        well yeah i know that part….but for example me i DID NOT give them my SSN because i just didnt want to have any kind of contracts….so the question is
        can i be qualified to get converted to postpaid?
        ps. i have the easy pay thing so they charge me straight from my credit card like 5 days before my cycle ends ever since i have T-Mobile (a little over a year)

        • Wzehnder

          Youd almost certainly be on the list…..its mostly based on payment history….though if you are on the list you’ll have to provide a social to move to post paid

        • Kenchin_1310

          oh ok good to hear then! i guess i’ll call customer care!

        • Anonymous

          You don’t need your social… if you’re on the prequalified list you can still refuse to give a social… they’ll just want to speak to you and maybe ask you for a utility.

        • remixfa.

          yea, still not true. but keep trying bill. no credit check.. no postpay. no contract flexpay/prepay only. I’ve tried it before and been told they have to run credit, then the 6 month window starts from that point.

        • Anonymous

          read my reply to that vote4fairtax guy… You are wrong, as I told him, I’m sure you’re a rep, who thinks they know what theyre talking about. However I know this to be true, you assume you know. Please do your homework before you come into forums spreading false information.

          foreign visa applications / social refusal… look it up…

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NI4YLXAO43ZREYQHO5KKWJJZKQ Haney

          Billli, fighting for the rest of the customer care reps at tmo!

        • Anonymous

          read my reply to that vote4fairtax guy… You are wrong, as I told him, I’m sure you’re a rep, who thinks they know what theyre talking about. However I know this to be true, you assume you know. Please do your homework before you come into forums spreading false information.

          foreign visa applications / social refusal… look it up…

        • systemsfailhereandthere

          Two days ago I signed up for a T-Mobile POST PAID contract, without a visa, without a credit check and without anything but my European Driver’s Licence and a $500 Deposit. I didn’t even need a mailing address as it is all handled electronically (paperless bill).

      • some_dude

        well yeah i know that part….but for example me i DID NOT give them my SSN because i just didnt want to have any kind of contracts….so the question is
        can i be qualified to get converted to postpaid?
        ps. i have the easy pay thing so they charge me straight from my credit card like 5 days before my cycle ends ever since i have T-Mobile (a little over a year)

    • Nic

      If you’re on a contact with flexpay then we do ask for the social.

  • Vote4fairtax

    This preqalified list has been around for a while. So, its not any”new proof”. Basically if your on flex pay and you pay you bil on time for 6+months in a row, you can call or go in a store and they can check to see if your on the list. No if you haven’t had your credit run, you don’t qualify, but customer service can re run it over the phone.

    • Anonymous

      You were correct except for that last part… you can be eligible without a social attached. Its behavior score. A lot of people don’t realize that.

      • remixfa.

        sorry bill, but your misinformed. You can go from a flexpay plan to a postpaid, as long as you had your credit run.
        you can not qualify for postpaid/contract ANYTHING without a credit check. because u cant qualify for postpaid without it being attached to your social. You really think they would allow a contract to be put on a person without tying it to the social? What if they default on the account? how would they track you down and get you to pay it? You would have no reason to because there would be no penalty to your credit.

        behavior score is for internal use and doesnt nesisarily mean anything about credit.

        • Anonymous

          lol… I could go back and forth with you here, but I can tell you’re a sales rep, so i will assign you a homework assignment. You’re making your statement based upon assumptions you claim to know about t-mobile and their credit policy. I ACTUALLY know what I am talking about. So next time you’re at work. Type social refusal into streamline, then please be sure to reply to my comment about how you were wrong. There isnt just 1 way, but two ways to get an account without a social. The first is by using a Foreign Visa Application. The other is social refusal. Both of these programs have just been repolished so theyll be easy to find. Social Refusal doesnt guarantee a post. However if they are pre-qualified and that is used in conjunction with social refusal, than voila, you have a post. So run along little boy, and complete your homework assignment.

          and the name is BILLI… billi bolas kiddo

        • Anonymous

          DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN
          lmao, GET EEEMMM

        • Anonymous

          DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMNNNN
          lmao, GET EEEMMM

        • Vote4fairtax

          ill check it when i get to work. if your right, then good for you. yes, im familiar with an FVA and social refusal. Unless your area has some neat program that mine doesnt have, the best you can get with social refusal is flex no contract, and flex contract on FVA. Ive never seen it drop a post.

          Even if you are right, i think you suffer from small penis syndrome. Overly snyde for a “tmo rep”, arent ya? Maybe mommy should hug you a little more, Billi. I think u could use it.

        • systemsfailhereandthere

          I’m Austrian, from Austria, not Australia; there are no Kangaroos. There was Mozart and there’s skiing now. Austria is a small country next to Germany. So I’m European.
          Now that that’s clarified here we go.
          Two days ago I signed up for a T-Mobile POST PAID contract, without a visa, without a credit check and without anything but my European Driver’s Licence and a $500 Deposit. I didn’t even need a mailing address as it is all handled electronically (paperless bill).

        • systemsfailhereandthere

          I’m Austrian, from Austria, not Australia; there are no Kangaroos. There was Mozart and there’s skiing now. Austria is a small country next to Germany. So I’m European.
          Now that that’s clarified here we go.
          Two days ago I signed up for a T-Mobile POST PAID contract, without a visa, without a credit check and without anything but my European Driver’s Licence and a $500 Deposit. I didn’t even need a mailing address as it is all handled electronically (paperless bill).

      • remixfa.

        sorry bill, but your misinformed. You can go from a flexpay plan to a postpaid, as long as you had your credit run.
        you can not qualify for postpaid/contract ANYTHING without a credit check. because u cant qualify for postpaid without it being attached to your social. You really think they would allow a contract to be put on a person without tying it to the social? What if they default on the account? how would they track you down and get you to pay it? You would have no reason to because there would be no penalty to your credit.

        behavior score is for internal use and doesnt nesisarily mean anything about credit.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NI4YLXAO43ZREYQHO5KKWJJZKQ Haney

        And the fact that customer service can run credit. Credit is run from and entirely different department.

  • Germanbeefcake

    I can guarantee you that flex post is going away! We are going back too deposits!

  • really?!

    this entire thread is way flex pay need to go away, customer dont understand it when you say EM vs EM+ mixed with Flexpay and Flexpay annual vs monthly vs prepaid it all just get jumble till you have a customer say i dont have a conntract im on flexpay……and we as reps shake our head

  • Anonymous

    lol… I could go back and forth with you here, but I can tell you’re a sales rep, so i will assign you a homework assignment. You’re making your statement based upon assumptions you claim to know about t-mobile and their credit policy. I ACTUALLY know what I am talking about. So next time you’re at work. Type social refusal into streamline, then please be sure to reply to my comment about how you were wrong. There isnt just 1 way, but two ways to get an account without a social. The first is by using a Foreign Visa Application. The other is social refusal. Both of these programs have just been repolished so theyll be easy to find. Social Refusal doesnt guarantee a post. However if they are pre-qualified and that is used in conjunction with social refusal, than voila, you have a post. So run along little boy, and complete your homework assignment.

    and the name is BILLI… billi bolas kiddo…

  • Anonymous

    lol… I could go back and forth with you here, but I can tell you’re a sales rep, so i will assign you a homework assignment. You’re making your statement based upon assumptions you claim to know about t-mobile and their credit policy. I ACTUALLY know what I am talking about. So next time you’re at work. Type social refusal into streamline, then please be sure to reply to my comment about how you were wrong. There isnt just 1 way, but two ways to get an account without a social. The first is by using a Foreign Visa Application. The other is social refusal. Both of these programs have just been repolished so theyll be easy to find. Social Refusal doesnt guarantee a post. However if they are pre-qualified and that is used in conjunction with social refusal, than voila, you have a post. So run along little boy, and complete your homework assignment.

    and the name is BILLI… billi bolas se☺

  • Anonymous

    lol, while you do that, Shrilaka in Mumbai is pulling up the pre-qualified list and searching for their BAN. Something you yourself can do

    Good job dude, see you mofo’s in Miami baby yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NI4YLXAO43ZREYQHO5KKWJJZKQ Haney

    Not to mention angry customers calling in care to get the accounts fixed and ALL the information about the changes made to the account.