T-Mobile Picks On AT&T And Verizon

Try as I might, I just can’t come up with something to write about this image without sounding awfully anti-T-Mobile. While I have no problem calling them out, or stating when I believe they are wrong, I’m of such mixed feelings about this image I just want to skip right over my own thoughts and hear that of our readers.

So consider this an open post and sound off below on whether or not you think this comes off as T-Mobile showing desperation about not being an iPhone partner?  Does this give you a compelling reason to tell your friends why T-Mobile is the best carrier around right now? Tell me what you think!

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  • Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with showing potential customers the benefits of your network.

  • Although this does come off as a bit paranoid on T-Mobile’s part, I agree with mostly everything it says.

  • Although this does come off as a bit paranoid on T-Mobile’s part, I agree with mostly everything it says.

  • Although this does come off as a bit paranoid on T-Mobile’s part, I agree with mostly everything it says.

  • Although this does come off as a bit paranoid on T-Mobile’s part, I agree with mostly everything it says.

  • shouti

    Nice !! Laughed at the # of 4G phones pic
    LOL

    • J-Hop2o6

      I laughed at the pic also where the “Winner” was holding up two “4G” phones on the top of the Olympics standings podium.

      But I don’t see nothing really wrong with this David.. Tmo is just trying to offset the potential iPhone buyers, and pull them over towards their HSPA+ network.. but for Tmo’s sake, they better try their HARDEST to land the iPhone 5 this summer.

      • jcj

        iphone is a network lag waiting to happen and unless they put 1700 Mhz in it will be useless

        • J-Hop2o6

          Tmo only has 33M customers.. they’ll be fine with an additional 10M.

        • J-Hop2o6

          Tmo only has 33M customers.. they’ll be fine with an additional 10M.

  • All T-Mobile needs now is a bigger coverage area.

  • All T-Mobile needs now is a bigger coverage area.

  • All T-Mobile needs now is a bigger coverage area.

  • JoshL

    nothing wrong with taking on the iphone. it’s overrated. however, t-mobile needs higher speced android phones if they want to make that claim. here’s to the HTC pyramid!!!

  • TmoMike

    I kinda like it….I LOL’d at the “# of 4G Smartphones” pic as well.

  • BRAVO

    It’s about time that T-Mobile grew a pair and started showing customers that the grass is greener with Android phones. If anything T-Mobile would be better off not offering Iphones, in my opinion, and just focusing on android phones. I love this new found competitive spirit!

    • Anonymous

      I have to agree, BRAVO!

    • Anonymous

      I have to agree, BRAVO!

  • BRAVO

    It’s about time that T-Mobile grew a pair and started showing customers that the grass is greener with Android phones. If anything T-Mobile would be better off not offering Iphones, in my opinion, and just focusing on android phones. I love this new found competitive spirit!

  • Heath

    I’m not sure if you can make the argument that ATT and Verizon have NO 4G phones. Just because it doesn’t run on HSPA+ doesn’t mean it doesn’t reach and surpasss HSPA+ speeds. So yeah, its iffy.

  • Heath

    I’m not sure if you can make the argument that ATT and Verizon have NO 4G phones. Just because it doesn’t run on HSPA+ doesn’t mean it doesn’t reach and surpasss HSPA+ speeds. So yeah, its iffy.

  • Heath

    I’m not sure if you can make the argument that ATT and Verizon have NO 4G phones. Just because it doesn’t run on HSPA+ doesn’t mean it doesn’t reach and surpasss HSPA+ speeds. So yeah, its iffy.

  • Heath

    I’m not sure if you can make the argument that ATT and Verizon have NO 4G phones. Just because it doesn’t run on HSPA+ doesn’t mean it doesn’t reach and surpasss HSPA+ speeds. So yeah, its iffy.

    • Rone469

      what 4G phones do verizon and ATT have?

    • Rone469

      what 4G phones do verizon and ATT have?

  • Heath

    I’m not sure if you can make the argument that ATT and Verizon have NO 4G phones. Just because it doesn’t run on HSPA+ doesn’t mean it doesn’t reach and surpasss HSPA+ speeds. So yeah, its iffy.

  • Don’t we have the Cliq 2, G2, and MyTouch 4G that use HSPA+? :S
    And with the Galaxy S 4G/Vibrant 4G it’ll be 4.

    • Kristin

      Cliq 2 is not 4g

    • J-Hop2o6

      Cliq 2 is only 7.2-10.2 HSPA.. G2, MT4G, & Vibrant 4G are HSPA+

  • Don’t we have the Cliq 2, G2, and MyTouch 4G that use HSPA+? :S
    And with the Galaxy S 4G/Vibrant 4G it’ll be 4.

  • Don’t we have the Cliq 2, G2, and MyTouch 4G that use HSPA+? :S
    And with the Galaxy S 4G/Vibrant 4G it’ll be 4.

  • Mr Tibbs

    that’s because no one wants t-mobile so the few towers they do have are not over crowded lmao t-mobile will never get anywhere picking on these to when the cant even match up to sprint WTH

    • Anonymous

      Towers or cell sites? Not sure you know what you’re talking about.

      Being a PCS/AWS provider T-Mobile probably has more sites per square mile than their competitors.

    • jcj

      yeah that is why they just won JD Power award AGAIN!!

  • Mr Tibbs

    that’s because no one wants t-mobile so the few towers they do have are not over crowded lmao t-mobile will never get anywhere picking on these to when the cant even match up to sprint WTH

  • Mr Tibbs

    that’s because no one wants t-mobile so the few towers they do have are not over crowded lmao t-mobile will never get anywhere picking on these to when the cant even match up to sprint WTH

  • jelliottz

    I don’t see anything wrong with it. If Verizon and AT&T want to tout what they have, let us do the same thing. You know they would do it (and will once their devices go live). We are just beating them to the punch.

  • Anonymous

    A year or so ago I might agree that T-Mo should STFU…

    But today they are growing their network, bringing us the latest in mobile phone technology, have stepped up their advertising game and claiming fame to what is theirs.

    We have to stop apologizing for being a T-Mobile subscriber. Beastly 4G phones, MiFi’s, tablets etc are on their way. Out network size will explode within a couple of years.

  • Crey23

    I like the fact the Magenta finally is making noise, and not a passenger on the bus nowhere. As for the selection, these phone really have few rivals, especially the G2.

    An while I’ll agree that it may be the largest 4G network, it also is the weakest. I have had Tmo for nearly 10 yrs now, and most of the time, signal drops of the a single bar on edge or even gprs. While for the most part this is not an issue, I am groing tired of having a kick a$$ phone is the street, and a dud at the office!

    The G2 made me stay with Tmo….I was really leaning toward anything but Tmo a few months ago!

    • BilliBolas

      I’ve gotta call BS here buddyboy… First off there is no “4G” network weaker than Sprint’s. There are so many things wrong with Sprint calling their network 4G it’s not even funny. The grass always seems greener on the other side, but I cant imagine how angry you guys would be if you guys had EVO’s getting slower data speeds than T-Mobile 3G phones in 4g areas. I routinely rape iphones and EVOs in NYC whenever I run a speedtest against them. Most people havent tried out Verizon’s 4G network. I love how people give them the benefit of the douvbt because its Verizon, but they have the slowest 3G data network along with Sprint and their network is not backwards compatible. Which means nobody gets 4G or benefits from it unless they buy a new phone. How could you guys complain about T-Mobile? They find cost-effective ways to always bring innovative thinking and people still complain.

  • Crey23

    I like the fact the Magenta finally is making noise, and not a passenger on the bus nowhere. As for the selection, these phone really have few rivals, especially the G2.

    An while I’ll agree that it may be the largest 4G network, it also is the weakest. I have had Tmo for nearly 10 yrs now, and most of the time, signal drops of the a single bar on edge or even gprs. While for the most part this is not an issue, I am groing tired of having a kick a$$ phone is the street, and a dud at the office!

    The G2 made me stay with Tmo….I was really leaning toward anything but Tmo a few months ago!

  • Darkraiderfan

    in my opinion tmobile is the best carrier right now when you consider what you get for your money. verizon has the better phones but tmobile has the better speed and pricing. verizon is so overpriced its rediculous. and sprint really only has the evo. and at&t is pretty much bringing up the rear with their capped data plans and watered down android phones. the iphone is outdated people and by the end of this year the iphone 5 will still be behind the game with lg releasing dual core 3d phones.

  • Darkraiderfan

    in my opinion tmobile is the best carrier right now when you consider what you get for your money. verizon has the better phones but tmobile has the better speed and pricing. verizon is so overpriced its rediculous. and sprint really only has the evo. and at&t is pretty much bringing up the rear with their capped data plans and watered down android phones. the iphone is outdated people and by the end of this year the iphone 5 will still be behind the game with lg releasing dual core 3d phones.

  • Erod188

    Desperate for iphone? Doubt it I honestly hope tmo doesn’t jump on the iphone train. Android is doing good for tmo but like some of you said they need to get some super phones out there and better service

  • Erod188

    Desperate for iphone? Doubt it I honestly hope tmo doesn’t jump on the iphone train. Android is doing good for tmo but like some of you said they need to get some super phones out there and better service

    • rmana12

      The reason why it’s TMO’s best interest to have an iPhone on its network is not because Android, BlackBerry or Windows Phones are better than iOS. Yes, Android is doing good for TMO but is that sufficient enough to get out of #4 spot? AT&T moved up the ladder not because they have a better coverage than everyone else, AT&T moved up because of the iPhone and not because they have a better network, pricing scheme or anything else. Do you know the number of people who uses the iPhone 4 right now who’s not satisfied with their call quality experience? But yet, people are willing to deal with that shortcoming because its an iPhone.

  • Darkraiderfan

    tmobile does have a superphone comming. the lg optimus 2x. first dual core phone ever baby

    • Randall

      Hate to break it to you, but the Optimus 2X is going to AT&T. We have to wait on the HTC Pyramid and hope it’s not just a myth.

    • Randall

      Hate to break it to you, but the Optimus 2X is going to AT&T. We have to wait on the HTC Pyramid and hope it’s not just a myth.

      • Justsayin

        Both wrong sorry.

    • Bobblehead

      What makes you think this is coming to TMobile instead of AT&T?

    • Bobblehead

      What makes you think this is coming to TMobile instead of AT&T?

    • Bobblehead

      What makes you think this is coming to TMobile instead of AT&T?

  • BigMixxx

    T mobile got a pair. This is not really an attack, but a call to attention, to me. think of it. Common folk really call the iphone 4 the iphone 4g (I’ve heard this). T mobile has 2 VERY good phones (yes they really are) and they have plans for yet more. I think T mobile is about to get REALLY aggressive on fulfilling the niche market. for this VERY reason…no iphone and t mobile will probably get more per customer vs. those on ATT and Verizon. I spoke to a dude the other day, said he was gonna switch carriers because of the phone lineup, HD2 user. I pointed out to him that moving carriers may cost you more, in the short and long term. Besides, go to xda-developers and get windows mobile off. I get pinged today ‘I love T-mobile, thanks Bigmixxx’…awesome.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny in a way. T-Mobile is doing the same thing Verizon did to AT&T in the Droid Does (Verizon) vs Apple iphone (AT&T).

    They are not attacking the phone, they are attacking their respective networks. But I wonder if Apple would make an HSPA+ (T-Mobile 4G) iphone 5. Since AT&T is touting an HSPA+ (still unclear as to which version), Apple might cater to an HSPA+ 14.4 or 21Mbps iPhone 5.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny in a way. T-Mobile is doing the same thing Verizon did to AT&T in the Droid Does (Verizon) vs Apple iphone (AT&T).

    They are not attacking the phone, they are attacking their respective networks. But I wonder if Apple would make an HSPA+ (T-Mobile 4G) iphone 5. Since AT&T is touting an HSPA+ (still unclear as to which version), Apple might cater to an HSPA+ 14.4 or 21Mbps iPhone 5.

    • Marcel

      Iphone 5 will be HSPA + at least 21 mbps! All important carriers around the globe use HSPA+ !

      • Bimmerz

        This is what I am hoping for them to do with the iPhone 5 (as well as put at least a 4″ screen on the iP5). Which of course would go to AT&T first, but then I don’t see why they couldn’t modify it to T-Mobile’s network, and maybe we get it for Christmas…? Enjoying my Nexus S, and Android – but I wouldn’t mind also having an iPhone – if nothing else, would be kind of fun to compare the 2, and enjoy the best of both.

    • Marcel

      Iphone 5 will be HSPA + at least 21 mbps! All important carriers around the globe use HSPA+ !

    • Marcel

      Iphone 5 will be HSPA + at least 21 mbps! All important carriers around the globe use HSPA+ !

    • Marcel

      Iphone 5 will be HSPA + at least 21 mbps! All important carriers around the globe use HSPA+ !

  • x4L13Nx

    Everytime I show my widgets on my android phone on a iphone user they just go silent…cannot counter attack…they try saying something ill just say “FLASH” end of competition…android FTW! Btw never had problem with signal on my G2!

  • x4L13Nx

    Everytime I show my widgets on my android phone on a iphone user they just go silent…cannot counter attack…they try saying something ill just say “FLASH” end of competition…android FTW! Btw never had problem with signal on my G2!

  • x4L13Nx

    Everytime I show my widgets on my android phone on a iphone user they just go silent…cannot counter attack…they try saying something ill just say “FLASH” end of competition…android FTW! Btw never had problem with signal on my G2!

  • x4L13Nx

    Everytime I show my widgets on my android phone on a iphone user they just go silent…cannot counter attack…they try saying something ill just say “FLASH” end of competition…android FTW! Btw never had problem with signal on my G2!

  • Shame on You, T-Mobile

    T-Mobile’s getting desperate. That’s all I see in these images.

    • dracus

      ya, makes me kinda feel ashamed to be associated with tmo right now.

    • dracus

      ya, makes me kinda feel ashamed to be associated with tmo right now.

    • Anonymous

      It’s difficult to present the facts, which seem to go in your favor, without coming across as snarky.

      I think it’s more of a graphics issue rather than the information they trying to convey. The tortoises, the hare, the big ‘ol dollar signs, the Tmo person’s hands raised. Those parts make it look desperate.

      You could also debate as to whether it is T-Mobile’s job to educate customers on the ability of the iPhone 4 to run on a 4G network.

      Keep in mind that the iPhone is sacred ground in many consumers minds. To belittle Apple is to come across as unfashionable and not techno-savvy. The iPhone is a sacred cow that needs to be slaughtered, but consumers should do that before T-Mobile does.

      Also, the data speed comparisons need some real numbers, or at least links to the raw data, in order to register as realistic. When people see a bar graph showing T-Mobile as faster than Verizon, there is a disconnect in consumers minds, a great deal of that due to some tremendous branding on Verizon’s part. Remember, there was a poll asking consumers who had the fastest 4G network. The results were overwhelmingly in Verizon’s favor. The poll was done when Verizon didn’t have a 4G network. Without the raw data showing T-Mobile is faster than Verizon, it’s not believable.

      I’m sure you could do a poll on cell phones, asking consumers what the fastest 4G phone is, and the result would probably be the iPhone 4 (with the Evo and MyTouch4g as a possible 2nd and 3rd). Again, without the raw data, it’s not very believable.

  • Shame on You, T-Mobile

    T-Mobile’s getting desperate. That’s all I see in these images.

  • Shame on You, T-Mobile

    T-Mobile’s getting desperate. That’s all I see in these images.

  • Shame on You, T-Mobile

    T-Mobile’s getting desperate. That’s all I see in these images.

  • Anonymous

    how is it ok for verizon to tout Droid can do etc and when TMO does something gutsy for once it’s called a desperate move?

    • Erod188

      Omg thank you!!!!

    • Torel

      because it wasn’t ok when verizon did and it’s still not okay when tmo does it. verizon was desperate then and now they have the iphone. now, tmo is getting desperate.

    • Torel

      because it wasn’t ok when verizon did and it’s still not okay when tmo does it. verizon was desperate then and now they have the iphone. now, tmo is getting desperate.

    • Torel

      because it wasn’t ok when verizon did and it’s still not okay when tmo does it. verizon was desperate then and now they have the iphone. now, tmo is getting desperate.

    • Blacksheep427

      Can you say “I stand up for the service provider I have.”? It’s natural, people tend to defend what they use and purchase.

      P.S. it’s a good article, David, don’t worry about it. Keep up the great work, tmonews.

  • Well, there would be no need for this stuff if we offered the iPhone. Did anyone hear that Verizon sold out in like two hours today of preorder??? As much as we talk crap about the phone in reality if we want the slightest chance to get out of fourth place we will need to offer the phone

    • Bimmerz

      Yes, and we need to get it before Sprint does, so that we can at least overtake position #3. And in all honesty, if we could get the iPhone 5 (w/HSPA+), I think we’d have a good chance of bumping up to #2, since our rates are better than AT&T. This is just my thoughts, not a fact – but I’d be willing to see it through! ;o)

  • Bob

    Considering TMo doesn’t have one good 4″+ screen phone, they have no cause to put down other carriers. And a Samsung phone with a creaky plastic case,2.1, and non functioning GPS doesn’t count.

    • Erod188

      Idk what the hello people brag about gps I have never had that problem. I have drooped my vibrant on cement from about 4 feet thanks to people that font take care of their icey sidewalks and guess what my phone has a little scuff mark and there the screen on this giant small htc pyramid is coming 4.3″

    • Erod188

      Idk what the hello people brag about gps I have never had that problem. I have drooped my vibrant on cement from about 4 feet thanks to people that font take care of their icey sidewalks and guess what my phone has a little scuff mark and there the screen on this giant small htc pyramid is coming 4.3″

    • Erod188

      Idk what the hello people brag about gps I have never had that problem. I have drooped my vibrant on cement from about 4 feet thanks to people that font take care of their icey sidewalks and guess what my phone has a little scuff mark and there the screen on this giant small htc pyramid is coming 4.3″

    • Atl1_falcons

      2.2 is out on kies brotha

    • Atl1_falcons

      2.2 is out on kies brotha

    • Atl1_falcons

      2.2 is out on kies brotha

    • Blacksheep427

      again with the forgetting the HD2? mine works great even with WinMo 6.5. If, I repeat, if I wanted to I could make it an Android HD2, but I didn’t feel like it.

    • Blacksheep427

      again with the forgetting the HD2? mine works great even with WinMo 6.5. If, I repeat, if I wanted to I could make it an Android HD2, but I didn’t feel like it.

    • BilliBolas

      Are you serious? The Vibrant has been running 2.2 for weeks now, also worth noting is that T-Mobile was the first carrier to update their Galaxy S phone, of course nobody gives them credit for that. We have the Nexus S, Nexus 1, G2, MT4G… the HD7 is an amazing phone if people would actually give it a chance. (4.3″ screen btw with built in Netflix) What are you even talking about?

      • Tmo FTW

        and in the piture is the Galaxy S 4G coming soon. not the Vibrant that has the GPS problems

    • Nathan

      My Nexus S has a 4″ screen running 2.3 and working GPS…….

  • Bob

    Considering TMo doesn’t have one good 4″+ screen phone, they have no cause to put down other carriers. And a Samsung phone with a creaky plastic case,2.1, and non functioning GPS doesn’t count.

  • sinistersai4d

    What about Clique 2? Aside from ugly keyboard it bests the Droid 2. Don’t see why its considered mid level. Not yet anyway. Plus it uses ‘4G’

  • Anonymous

    David, what are your thoughts? I’m genuinely curious.

    Even though TMO’s “other guys don’t have 4G” angle will be outdated soon enough, I expect they’ll shift to focusing on how other carriers charge extra for their 4G. I think it’s a good strategy — continuing to focus on value, as well as (to a lesser extent) network strength.

  • Anonymous

    David, what are your thoughts? I’m genuinely curious.

    Even though TMO’s “other guys don’t have 4G” angle will be outdated soon enough, I expect they’ll shift to focusing on how other carriers charge extra for their 4G. I think it’s a good strategy — continuing to focus on value, as well as (to a lesser extent) network strength.

  • Anonymous

    David, what are your thoughts? I’m genuinely curious.

    Even though TMO’s “other guys don’t have 4G” angle will be outdated soon enough, I expect they’ll shift to focusing on how other carriers charge extra for their 4G. I think it’s a good strategy — continuing to focus on value, as well as (to a lesser extent) network strength.

  • Anonymous

    All I have to say is, let’s be honest for a moment here: if next Monday morning Tim Cook woke up and called T-Mobile to offer T-Mobile a 2100/1700 iPhone, do you think T-Mobile would turn him down?

  • Anonymous

    All I have to say is, let’s be honest for a moment here: if next Monday morning Tim Cook woke up and called T-Mobile to offer T-Mobile a 2100/1700 iPhone, do you think T-Mobile would turn him down?

  • Anonymous

    All I have to say is, let’s be honest for a moment here: if next Monday morning Tim Cook woke up and called T-Mobile to offer T-Mobile a 2100/1700 iPhone, do you think T-Mobile would turn him down?

    • Anonymous

      Well, natch — but they gotta hype what they got! Nothing wrong with that…

    • Anonymous

      Well, natch — but they gotta hype what they got! Nothing wrong with that…

    • Anonymous

      Well, natch — but they gotta hype what they got! Nothing wrong with that…

    • Anonymous

      Well, natch — but they gotta hype what they got! Nothing wrong with that…

  • Ash

    Over doing a bit, should just take care their own business.

  • 4G

    TMo doesn’t have any 4G phones either. The ITU says HSPA+ is 4G but the two phones TMO has are only HSDPA 14.4 (not 4G).

    • Droid

      The only 4G devices T-Mobile has are their Rocket USB modem and Dell netbook.

    • Droid

      The only 4G devices T-Mobile has are their Rocket USB modem and Dell netbook.

      • Droid

        Oh ya, plus the new Dell Streak 7.

    • tmo, the truth bender

      hahahaha, tmo fail. also $10 on tmo will get you 200 MB of data while $30 on verizon will get you unlimited data. tmo’s “unlimited” data (read as 5 GB) is $30.

      • TMO FTW!!

        yes tmobile does have a 5gb cap but they just slow your connection down they dont charge you over. Verizon and AT&T charge you over 2GB. ha. and I use to pay 145 for ONE line at Verizon and now on Tmo i pay 175 for 3 lines unlimited EVERYTHING so ok the datas not that much cheaper but tmo also cost less on everything else.

        And to the people who say HSPA+ is not 4G.ok ill playy along either way my “3G” mythouch 4g is stil faster than the EVO, Droid 2, and iPhone 4 so dont talk about speed when Verizon and AT&T doesnt even have “Advanced 3G”

        • U OWN!

        • G2 Guy

          Note that tmo slows your speed to an unusable 50 kbps. my friend has has 4 lines on verizon and pays $130. Only one is a smart phone though. He also doesn’t get charged over 2 GB. Its unlimited. Verizon may start throttling a fewa users but ill care when it actually happens to a lot of people. Only reason I stay with tmo is thst I get a corporate discount.

        • Anonymous

          They just issued a new policy on verizon a couple days ago that they will now throttle the heaviest users. When I tethered my phone I pretty quickly got throttled by tmobile … which like some have said, is unusable. Vibrant 4g has 21mbs not 14 like the g2. So sprints the only one left but they just raised the price on ALL data plans $10(recently).

      • Bimmerz
        • BilliBolas

          That is correct, plus they downgrade your resolution for video streaming whether you are over the limit or not “for the better of the network”.

        • wait and see

          Only matters when people are actually being throttled. So far, no reports yet. Plus it’s only at specific areas, times and people.

        • wait and see

          Only matters when people are actually being throttled. So far, no reports yet. Plus it’s only at specific areas, times and people.

      • Bimmerz
    • Cray820

      4G is nothine more than a play on words anyway. there is no real 4G standard. everybody calls their network upgrade 4G

    • BilliBolas

      Genius, please tell me how fast the EVO “4G” is. oh… thats right…

  • 4G

    TMo doesn’t have any 4G phones either. The ITU says HSPA+ is 4G but the two phones TMO has are only HSDPA 14.4 (not 4G).

  • 4G

    TMo doesn’t have any 4G phones either. The ITU says HSPA+ is 4G but the two phones TMO has are only HSDPA 14.4 (not 4G).

  • 4G

    TMo doesn’t have any 4G phones either. The ITU says HSPA+ is 4G but the two phones TMO has are only HSDPA 14.4 (not 4G).

  • Anonymous

    lets be honest here… what do they got to lose honestly. they are 4th overall anyways, so what’s wrong with slinging a little bit of mud in their eyes. as of right now they are right that AT&T & Verizon don’t have 4G phones yet. Big word “YET” so they should milk it for all they got while they can. i don’t think it really has anything to do with the fact that they didn’t get picked for the next carrier. they are just trying to get all the iPhone lovers to understand that even though verizon now has it, it still won’t be a 4G phone.thats what im thinking.

  • Anonymous

    lets be honest here… what do they got to lose honestly. they are 4th overall anyways, so what’s wrong with slinging a little bit of mud in their eyes. as of right now they are right that AT&T & Verizon don’t have 4G phones yet. Big word “YET” so they should milk it for all they got while they can. i don’t think it really has anything to do with the fact that they didn’t get picked for the next carrier. they are just trying to get all the iPhone lovers to understand that even though verizon now has it, it still won’t be a 4G phone.thats what im thinking.

  • Anonymous

    lets be honest here… what do they got to lose honestly. they are 4th overall anyways, so what’s wrong with slinging a little bit of mud in their eyes. as of right now they are right that AT&T & Verizon don’t have 4G phones yet. Big word “YET” so they should milk it for all they got while they can. i don’t think it really has anything to do with the fact that they didn’t get picked for the next carrier. they are just trying to get all the iPhone lovers to understand that even though verizon now has it, it still won’t be a 4G phone.thats what im thinking.

  • Anonymous

    lets be honest here… what do they got to lose honestly. they are 4th overall anyways, so what’s wrong with slinging a little bit of mud in their eyes. as of right now they are right that AT&T & Verizon don’t have 4G phones yet. Big word “YET” so they should milk it for all they got while they can. i don’t think it really has anything to do with the fact that they didn’t get picked for the next carrier. they are just trying to get all the iPhone lovers to understand that even though verizon now has it, it still won’t be a 4G phone.thats what im thinking.

  • Kizo Inc

    As we know, Iphone or not, Tmobile is taking the Challenger Approach, the whole point of Advertising is to attract customers. We have the Network to back that up, the Customer service to back it up, so why not. This approach is Good.

    • Blacksheep427

      Good point. Interesting thought: maybe we do not want all of the AT&T, Sprint and Verizon crybabies on T-Mobile clogging up our network. :P

      Name any attribute on T-Mobile, it’s either already better than the competition or it is about to be better.

      No matter, I choose TMO, and that’s where my monthly bill goes. I will back up whatever service provider is best for me, and that is TMO. “your dollar, your choice:.

  • Andy

    I don’t know about y’all but if T-Mobile offered the iPhone tomorrow I’d buy it

  • tecjunkie

    I am a long time tmo customer. I love my “4G” speeds when I get them. They really need to be more consistent to boast like they do. I like the most 4G phones when only 2 are available. Like others that posted I feel a sense of desperation.

  • Cray820

    I dont see the problem with the add plus they do have somethiing to worry about now that verizon has teh Iphone. I dont blame them for this.

  • Robert

    What’s the point of having 4G in select cities across the country when the bulk of the coverage that you provide your Customer’s encompasses GPRS coverage…

    • Because thats where the most people are? More people = more customers who have “4G”. Some small town with 1000 population vs metropolis with 1 million + people. Who do you think gets priority. I like their plan though, they are gonna improve coverage everywhere eventually so everyone is on a level field, then introduce LTE, which is the way to go, so if you are on HSPA+ it is still fast.

  • Blabla

    Nothing wrong with T-mobile actually attacking the competitors. This is something they NEVER did in the past and it’s about time they started doing it. Attacking the iPhone specifically though is getting a little old. I would think this would ruin their chances of ever getting the iPhone in the future. I could be wrong though. And I don’t know why so many people get confused about why it’s called the iPhone 4. The 4 stands for 4th generation. Not 4g speeds.

    • Tmonerd

      I would like to point everyones attention to the verizon adds as recently as 5 months ago with their droid does campaign now look they have appatently forgot how much money that they put into a losing campaign people will continue to buy the iphone because it is a brand that haas been publicized correctly not because it is a good product its brand loyalty

    • johnnyonthespot

      Actually, if you notice, T-Mobile has never attacked the iPhone and has publicly stated that it’s a great device. They attacked the networks that the iPhones run on, and they’ve been careful to do so.

  • Rage

    david you need to make a thumbs down vote thing. i cant tell you how many times i have wanted it!

  • Rage

    david you need to make a thumbs down vote thing. i cant tell you how many times i have wanted it!

  • Rage

    david you need to make a thumbs down vote thing. i cant tell you how many times i have wanted it!

  • EL

    i agee with blabla…4 just means the 4th generation iCrap…I mean iPhone. And honestly i LOVE how T-Mobile is finally being BOLD enough to enter the big boy arena. i am a 6yr loyal customer to T-Mobile and i cannot complain. and another thing, i hope that T-Mobile NEEEEEEVER gets the iPhone because i love the idea of T-Mobile challenging their Android phones to an iPhone other wise they wouldnt have none of these Ads on TV and touting it all over the internet. so it is what it is. Let the WAR continue!

  • BilliBolas

    I think it’s great, the downside to this though is that T-Mobile doesnt speak loud enough in their advertising to get the message across. There are few people that posted it here already but the iphone is seriously an inferior phone to any of the top Android phones out there for any of the major carriers, the problem is it’s easy to use and so naturally people that are making their first foray into the smartphone world will go with the phone thats most recognizable and easy to use. Still worthwhile nonetheless.

    To the people out there calling this a move of desperation, since when did advertising your competitive advantages become desperate?

    Is Verizon’s 3G network fast? Is the iphone4 a new phone? Does it have new cool specs that we havent seen before? Does it have a 4.3″ screen? Can you tether without paying a 20 charge for it? Does AT&T offer unlimited data? Someone please name a good phone for AT&T other than the iphone? (If anyone says Atrix I might reach through the computer and strangle them, please watch the laptop dock lag all over the place on the engadget review. Oh and also it’s MOTOBLUR people… Have you not learned your lesson yet?)

    T-Mobile is the #4 carrier in the US, the only way you move the needle is by attacking attacking attacking, and making sure to back your talk up. If anyone in this blog has been with T-Mobile for awhile, this may pain you to do it, but think back to the phone selection T-Mobile had before the G1. Now look now… Who has a more reliable phone line-up? First Android phone, First Google Phone, Exclusive Nexus S, G2, MT4G, Galaxy S 4G (btw the Vibrant sold more than any other Galaxy phone from any carrier), Wi-Fi calling in all of the android phones, UMA in blackberries which allow you to use them ANYWHERE in the world as if you were in the states as long as you have a wifi connection.

    Where else do you get these options? T-Mobile isnt getting desperate. Just finally growing a set.

    Excuse my rant… Also it’s funny that you all complained T-Mobile didnt attack enough before now they are desperate. Makes no sense…

    • tecjunkie

      When I said desperation, I feel it’s flaunting something that isn’t there for many of it’s customers. Even myself, the coverage map shows me as “4G” but I don’t always see that. It just depends what part of town I’m in. That’s just inconsistent. Coverage should be a priority. At times I feel slower than that Verizon turtle. I stream pandora on my way to work and there is about a 5 minute stretch where it drops out. Don’t get me wrong I can get ridiculous speeds but not everywhere the map shows I can. I to am glad they are growing a set but they need to come correct.

      • BilliBolas

        I understand this comment, but it goes back to what I was saying earlier about the grass being greener, I use two carriers, I have a work phone and a personal phone, my iphone 4 will drop out while I’m streaming Netflix on my ride in to work. I routinely test both phones side by side anytime I’m in a new area just to feed my curiousity, 9x out of 10 when my tmobile phone is no longer putting out “4G speeds”, the iphone is worse off.

        Trust me, no carrier has Full 4G in any “covered area” it’s almost impossible since it’s tower by tower and some just arent a priority. Until 4G becomes what 3G is today, I think it’ll remain this way. Give it 2 or 3 years and then you’ll see full blanket coverage. NYC is covered pretty well though.

  • BilliBolas

    I think it’s great, the downside to this though is that T-Mobile doesnt speak loud enough in their advertising to get the message across. There are few people that posted it here already but the iphone is seriously an inferior phone to any of the top Android phones out there for any of the major carriers, the problem is it’s easy to use and so naturally people that are making their first foray into the smartphone world will go with the phone thats most recognizable and easy to use. Still worthwhile nonetheless.

    To the people out there calling this a move of desperation, since when did advertising your competitive advantages become desperate?

    Is Verizon’s 3G network fast? Is the iphone4 a new phone? Does it have new cool specs that we havent seen before? Does it have a 4.3″ screen? Can you tether without paying a 20 charge for it? Does AT&T offer unlimited data? Someone please name a good phone for AT&T other than the iphone? (If anyone says Atrix I might reach through the computer and strangle them, please watch the laptop dock lag all over the place on the engadget review. Oh and also it’s MOTOBLUR people… Have you not learned your lesson yet?)

    T-Mobile is the #4 carrier in the US, the only way you move the needle is by attacking attacking attacking, and making sure to back your talk up. If anyone in this blog has been with T-Mobile for awhile, this may pain you to do it, but think back to the phone selection T-Mobile had before the G1. Now look now… Who has a more reliable phone line-up? First Android phone, First Google Phone, Exclusive Nexus S, G2, MT4G, Galaxy S 4G (btw the Vibrant sold more than any other Galaxy phone from any carrier), Wi-Fi calling in all of the android phones, UMA in blackberries which allow you to use them ANYWHERE in the world as if you were in the states as long as you have a wifi connection.

    Where else do you get these options? T-Mobile isnt getting desperate. Just finally growing a set.

    Excuse my rant… Also it’s funny that you all complained T-Mobile didnt attack enough before now they are desperate. Makes no sense…

  • BilliBolas

    I think it’s great, the downside to this though is that T-Mobile doesnt speak loud enough in their advertising to get the message across. There are few people that posted it here already but the iphone is seriously an inferior phone to any of the top Android phones out there for any of the major carriers, the problem is it’s easy to use and so naturally people that are making their first foray into the smartphone world will go with the phone thats most recognizable and easy to use. Still worthwhile nonetheless.

    To the people out there calling this a move of desperation, since when did advertising your competitive advantages become desperate?

    Is Verizon’s 3G network fast? Is the iphone4 a new phone? Does it have new cool specs that we havent seen before? Does it have a 4.3″ screen? Can you tether without paying a 20 charge for it? Does AT&T offer unlimited data? Someone please name a good phone for AT&T other than the iphone? (If anyone says Atrix I might reach through the computer and strangle them, please watch the laptop dock lag all over the place on the engadget review. Oh and also it’s MOTOBLUR people… Have you not learned your lesson yet?)

    T-Mobile is the #4 carrier in the US, the only way you move the needle is by attacking attacking attacking, and making sure to back your talk up. If anyone in this blog has been with T-Mobile for awhile, this may pain you to do it, but think back to the phone selection T-Mobile had before the G1. Now look now… Who has a more reliable phone line-up? First Android phone, First Google Phone, Exclusive Nexus S, G2, MT4G, Galaxy S 4G (btw the Vibrant sold more than any other Galaxy phone from any carrier), Wi-Fi calling in all of the android phones, UMA in blackberries which allow you to use them ANYWHERE in the world as if you were in the states as long as you have a wifi connection.

    Where else do you get these options? T-Mobile isnt getting desperate. Just finally growing a set.

    Excuse my rant… Also it’s funny that you all complained T-Mobile didnt attack enough before now they are desperate. Makes no sense…

  • St

    Really, T-Mobile should get off their asses and just support the iPhone. Yes, at EDGE speeds. They already have the tech to do it, i.e; Deutche Telecom.
    Sure data would be slow as hell, but for a contract-free, supported iPhone with visual voicemail and at least some data, it would be an attractive option for those who don’t need the latest and greatest, and TMo could probably pick up a lot of 2g and 3g iPhone owners, or those just handing off their old devices to friends, relatives, etc.
    Not sure why they wouldn’t. It would get disaffected AT&T users who are off-contract, but don’t want to go Verizon into the TMo tent, and then they could pitch their faster-connecting devices more directly to them.
    What do you think?

  • St

    Really, T-Mobile should get off their asses and just support the iPhone. Yes, at EDGE speeds. They already have the tech to do it, i.e; Deutche Telecom.
    Sure data would be slow as hell, but for a contract-free, supported iPhone with visual voicemail and at least some data, it would be an attractive option for those who don’t need the latest and greatest, and TMo could probably pick up a lot of 2g and 3g iPhone owners, or those just handing off their old devices to friends, relatives, etc.
    Not sure why they wouldn’t. It would get disaffected AT&T users who are off-contract, but don’t want to go Verizon into the TMo tent, and then they could pitch their faster-connecting devices more directly to them.
    What do you think?

  • St

    Really, T-Mobile should get off their asses and just support the iPhone. Yes, at EDGE speeds. They already have the tech to do it, i.e; Deutche Telecom.
    Sure data would be slow as hell, but for a contract-free, supported iPhone with visual voicemail and at least some data, it would be an attractive option for those who don’t need the latest and greatest, and TMo could probably pick up a lot of 2g and 3g iPhone owners, or those just handing off their old devices to friends, relatives, etc.
    Not sure why they wouldn’t. It would get disaffected AT&T users who are off-contract, but don’t want to go Verizon into the TMo tent, and then they could pitch their faster-connecting devices more directly to them.
    What do you think?

    • Ronald

      That is a bad suggestion …. we use jailbroken/unlocked Iphones on t-mobile USA, but we do not get the full iphone experiences, due to t-mobile network not being suitable for the iphone. We are thinking to switch to the mytouch. We are not switching to Att or Verizon, because the costs would double !

      • Kerry

        The only advantage the iPhone has over the Mytouch 4G is being able to play certain media files without having to convert them to MP4 yourself. But the screen is great, the size is perfect, its responsive and its quick. If you are in a 4G area, the web browsing experience is fluid.

        I used to suffer from iPhone envy and used my iPod touch for music… but I downloaded PowerAMP and gave my iPod to my wife, lol

    • As it’s been said, I don’t think it’s a matter of T-Mobile supporting the “iPhone”, they have it overseas. I think it’s a matter of Apple & Steve Jobs officially lending the iPhone over to run successfully on T-Mobile’s network. Clearly T-Mobile supports iPhone enough to let you run it unlocked on their network, has supplies for the iPhone in store’s, & has customer service support for the iPhone. T-Mobile’s ready, Steve Jobs just hasn’t given the ok. It’s not T-Mobile’s problem, take that up with Steve. It should be evident it’s not T-Mobile’s problem anyway if Verzion is just now getting a iPhone, & you still forget that only 2 of the major carriers have the iPhone, & the 2nd just has it. It’s not like all 3 of them had it, & been had it to really blame T-Mobile.

    • As it’s been said, I don’t think it’s a matter of T-Mobile supporting the “iPhone”, they have it overseas. I think it’s a matter of Apple & Steve Jobs officially lending the iPhone over to run successfully on T-Mobile’s network. Clearly T-Mobile supports iPhone enough to let you run it unlocked on their network, has supplies for the iPhone in store’s, & has customer service support for the iPhone. T-Mobile’s ready, Steve Jobs just hasn’t given the ok. It’s not T-Mobile’s problem, take that up with Steve. It should be evident it’s not T-Mobile’s problem anyway if Verzion is just now getting a iPhone, & you still forget that only 2 of the major carriers have the iPhone, & the 2nd just has it. It’s not like all 3 of them had it, & been had it to really blame T-Mobile.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Bring me some Meego devices and Tmo can talk all the junk they want.

  • Carmelbby

    T-mobile will double it’s speed by the end of the year from 21 Mbps to 42 Mbps it will be tested in certain markets and upon successfully getting all the kinks out it will be nationwide…now as far as their advertising methods there finally on point all across the board prices are coming down for plans and phone quality is going up not to mention they actually tell the truth about their speeds so AT&T and Verizon and the rest need to catch up or fallout

  • Carmelbby

    T-mobile will double it’s speed by the end of the year from 21 Mbps to 42 Mbps it will be tested in certain markets and upon successfully getting all the kinks out it will be nationwide…now as far as their advertising methods there finally on point all across the board prices are coming down for plans and phone quality is going up not to mention they actually tell the truth about their speeds so AT&T and Verizon and the rest need to catch up or fallout

  • Clemmie3

    LOL. The most 4G phones…..all TWO of them? Sprint already offers THREE.

    What I want to see, much more than new Phones, is for the actual 4G COVERAGE – from EVERYBODY – to catch up with all the hype being devoted to it. Phones do us no good whatsoever without the Coverage!

  • Phil Y

    They have a narrow window of opportunity to swipe both AT&T and Verizon in the same campaign. Soon enough Verizon will be getting LTE-capable smartphones and that opportunity will be gone. Given their declared strategy, TMo have to go for each and every competitive opportunity as it presents itself. They won’t gain customers by being modest about any advantage they can claim. Go for it, Magenta.

  • I’m OK with it. I understand there reason behind it and it does sound like little brother complaining but they have to do what they can to keep customers from jumping to Verizon this month. Side note: is it me or do they put “carly” on just about everything. Yeah, she’s hot but I’m sort of bored with her already. Also……..GIVE ME THE OPTIMUS 2X!!! It should say T-Mobiles Optimus 2X vs. AT&T and Verizons outdated iPhone4.

    • DavidOhio

      I am with you! Give me th LG Optimus 2X soon! I saw it on youtube and it blows the iphone out of the water. It is super fast and the screen is brilliant!

    • DavidOhio

      I am with you! Give me th LG Optimus 2X soon! I saw it on youtube and it blows the iphone out of the water. It is super fast and the screen is brilliant!

  • Alex

    Tmobile is doing awesome I don’t live in a 4G area but get 3-5.64 constantly keep up the good work

    • Oce

      3-5.64 sounds like 4g speeds to me. o_0 I wonder how many people still live under gprs coverage like me. :

      • Cubanito151

        I live in an edge area an when I go to my friends house sometimes it switches to gprs. But I use WiFi most of the times since all my friends and family have WiFi don’t use t-mobile network too much.

        • Jake

          stuck on EDGE in rio rico AZ ( just north of Nogales) but nogales has been getting 3G and now they get 4G and nogales is only 10 minutes south of me.

  • karlc

    right-on!!! as a long time TMO customer who is used to having others snub thier noses up at me when mentioning who my carrier is; im liking this. talk some sh!t, and stir it up, cause im tired of hearing how AT&T “covers 97% of Americans” a very misleading ad; no carrier has a 97% market share!
    i got my boots on, so let the sh!t fly!!!
    BTW, we all know that no one really has a 4G network, so this is all tit-for-tat, who can out BS the other. i think its totally cool that TMO is finally playing in a varisty game !!!!

  • T-mobile should be expanding it’s 3g coverage area first. 21 mbps is nice, but 4g coverage area (while the “largest” isn’t really that large) and the 3g coverage area sucks outside of metro areas. I should be able to drive from Boston, MA to Miami, FL and never lose a 3g signal. Much of the time on that drive I can’t get Edge. This is true also for parts of Boston, Dallas, Manchester, NH, Columbia, SC, Charleston, SC, Atlanta, GA.

    • BilliBolas

      Resource Allocation, why would you improve networks where the population drawfs that of major city? Go take a business course.

      • BilliBolas, we all use “MOBILE” phones these days. Thus, many of us travel or are “mobile” via car and airplane. We don’t all stay in a major metro areas. And as I mentioned, T-Mobile coverage in Dallas (a “major” city) has crappy 3G coverage. No business coursed needed for that wise-as$. Facts are facts. T-mo’s coverage in small and major markets is just not that good for 3G. Now they claim to have the biggest 4G network. How about having a better 3G network that is expanded more and more reliable from being dropped to Edge so often. How many “rural” customers have left T-mo in the last 2 years since Verizon bought Alltel. Add to that the number of customers that have left T-mo for AT&T and Verizon and not just for the iPhone. It wasn’t due to them wanting to pay more for service as T-mo is priced very well. It’s because T-mo’s coverage sucks.

      • BilliBolas, we all use “MOBILE” phones these days. Thus, many of us travel or are “mobile” via car and airplane. We don’t all stay in a major metro areas. And as I mentioned, T-Mobile coverage in Dallas (a “major” city) has crappy 3G coverage. No business coursed needed for that wise-as$. Facts are facts. T-mo’s coverage in small and major markets is just not that good for 3G. Now they claim to have the biggest 4G network. How about having a better 3G network that is expanded more and more reliable from being dropped to Edge so often. How many “rural” customers have left T-mo in the last 2 years since Verizon bought Alltel. Add to that the number of customers that have left T-mo for AT&T and Verizon and not just for the iPhone. It wasn’t due to them wanting to pay more for service as T-mo is priced very well. It’s because T-mo’s coverage sucks.

    • BilliBolas

      Resource Allocation, why would you improve networks where the population drawfs that of major city? Go take a business course.

    • BilliBolas

      Resource Allocation, why would you improve networks where the population drawfs that of major city? Go take a business course.

    • BilliBolas

      Resource Allocation, why would you improve networks where the population drawfs that of major city? Go take a business course.

    • Bobert

      Really?
      You expect to drive 1500 miles and always remain on 3g?
      REALLY?

  • OfficialG2Customer

    They said they have 2 4g smartphones phones…then proceed to show a option of 3…? hahaha fail by TMO but TMO 4 life!!!!

    • sidekick

      FINE PRINT: as of 2/3/2011

  • Ok, can people please cut it with T-Mobile doesn’t have real “4G”, or “4G” phones. It’s already been clarified under many reliable sources that T-Mobile can claim their “4G” network as 4G, & what exactly the real life definition of it is. Please stop with the tired comments, or let T-Mobile resort to what you all are calling “3G” & give you regular “3G” speeds, charge you the same amount for the data you currently are getting, & not improve upon their data coverage & speed.

    • DavidOhio

      I agree with you. I also think it is funny how at&t bashed t-mobile for calling hspa+ 4g and now they are doing the SAME thing!! At&t is calling their new hspa+ network 4g! haha!

      • Exactly. If it isn’t the pot (AT&T) calling the kettle (T-Mobile) black.

    • rmana12

      And your point is? WIMAX, LTE is not real “4G” either so why Sprint and Verizon calling thiers as “4G”? the current WIMAX and LTE doesn’t meet the tru specs of a real “4G”.

    • rmana12

      And your point is? WIMAX, LTE is not real “4G” either so why Sprint and Verizon calling thiers as “4G”? the current WIMAX and LTE doesn’t meet the tru specs of a real “4G”.

      • Please fallback. If you could read you’d see what my point clearly was.

  • DavidOhio

    They show a 3rd because in a couple weeks the Galaxy S 4G is launching and it is a 4G phone. TMO 4 life…I agree!!!

  • DavidOhio

    They show a 3rd because in a couple weeks the Galaxy S 4G is launching and it is a 4G phone. TMO 4 life…I agree!!!

  • Eleni

    It reminds me of when a kid wants the same expensive item as their friends but their parents won’t buy it for them, so they turn around and start bashing it and pointing out its flaws instead. To be honest, to me it’s just really sad and immature.

    I was on T-Mobile from 2007 to 2010. In that time I only used one of their subsidized/specific phones, and that was the one I got when I signed up. For the rest of the time I used unlocked European phones and then for the last year I used an iPhone. T-Mo’s phones just didn’t do it for me. I switched to AT&T for the iPhone 4 in June because I joined a family plan and paid half of what I paid at T-Mo, and T-Mo still had no good phones (in my opinion) besides the HD2 (and I hated Windows Mobile). My iPhone broke twice so I eventually switched to Android with an AT&T Nexus One.

    I ended up switching back to T-Mo in December because they actually picked up a vanilla Android phone (G2) and AT&T dropped 99 calls out of 100. T-Mobile, to this day, does not have any iPhone competition phones. As much as I dislike iPhones now that I’ve seen the great Android phones out there, I honestly don’t think that T-Mo has a single phone that appeals to every demographic like the iPhone does. Business users, kids, media fanatics, people who aren’t tech savvy… they all like the thing.

    I think that Sprint kind of broke into that mold with the Evo, so maybe if the HTC Pyramid rumors are true, T-Mo could start to break into that as well. If they don’t, well, we’re going to continue to see thousands of users use unlocked iPhones on their servers. If you doubt how many people do, I’d recommend taking a look at modmyi.com. The T-Mobile forum always has people looking at it.

    • frigadroid

      All over the news this morning about verizon selling out of the iphone. Most people want it like a drug. Be it a status symbol, fad or what the thing is not going away anytime soon.

      • Eleni

        Exactly… so why would T-Mobile insult and isolate their customers who DO want the phone (and there are plenty? Their Twitter posts since yesterday have been constant bashing of the iPhone, and it really makes them look like complete idiots. I almost feel ashamed that I’m paying such a petty company who would alienate their customers over a stupid phone.

        • BilliBolas

          Wow, you keep on posting ignorant comments, these are not insults, read it through again? Even the Droid Does campaigns that Verizon ran werent insults. They are stating factual differences between the phones. In this case T-Mobile is attacking the network. Every commercial run against the iphone attacked the serrvice provider. You need to either read or pay attention. Where do you get alienation, or insulting over our network is better than yours? Verizon says rule the air? Why is it wrong for T-Mobile to tout the improvement and the over 12 billion dollars invested into their network in the past 2 years?

        • Eleni

          Do you have T-Mobile on Twitter? All they were tweeting launch day was anti-iPhone and anti-Verizon crap. If I gave a rat’s ass about the iPhone or Verizon I wouldn’t be on T-Mobile, nor would I follow them on Twitter. I expect their Twitter to post tweets regarding their service and news, not why the Verizon iPhone will flop.

          By the way, calling people ignorant when you know nothing about them is kind of an ignorant thing to do in and of itself. Just saying.

    • rmana12

      If TMO can’t bring the iPhone on its network, the only thing that comes up in my mind that can copete with iPhone is webOS. I know a lot of people will say that webOS is not even close from being an iPhone copetitor but with the new phones being annouce next week, HP could bring us a much better webOS experience.

      • Eleni

        To be honest I don’t know much about WebOS, but I agree with you. T-Mobile should make it a point to offer ALL the different operating systems, so that way if someone doesn’t like one, they have others to choose from and find what’s right for him/herself. That’s what will make them stand out as a carrier, not trashing this carrier and that phone.

      • Eleni

        To be honest I don’t know much about WebOS, but I agree with you. T-Mobile should make it a point to offer ALL the different operating systems, so that way if someone doesn’t like one, they have others to choose from and find what’s right for him/herself. That’s what will make them stand out as a carrier, not trashing this carrier and that phone.

      • Eleni

        To be honest I don’t know much about WebOS, but I agree with you. T-Mobile should make it a point to offer ALL the different operating systems, so that way if someone doesn’t like one, they have others to choose from and find what’s right for him/herself. That’s what will make them stand out as a carrier, not trashing this carrier and that phone.

    • rmana12

      If TMO can’t bring the iPhone on its network, the only thing that comes up in my mind that can copete with iPhone is webOS. I know a lot of people will say that webOS is not even close from being an iPhone copetitor but with the new phones being annouce next week, HP could bring us a much better webOS experience.

  • Donny93

    Verizon sold out on iphone pre orders within 2 hours!!! That’s a huge lost to T-mobile. The new CEO made a bad move, even though who new the power of the iphone…

    • Animate

      Possibly but a good number of those left Sprint and AT&T to switch to Verizon as well.

      • Donny93

        True, but it is time to gain customers and take that number 3 position!

    • Animate

      Possibly but a good number of those left Sprint and AT&T to switch to Verizon as well.

  • Aerofanbig

    I think if Steve Jobs wasn’t such a giant d-bag and actually had some REAL insight into what consumers want, he could have seriously dominated the mobile world, not just say/assume like he does now. There are multiple reports all over the net showing world wide how fast android is catching on, meeting, and now beating both RIM and iOS, and its only going to become a bigger gap. Android is the new “PC” of the mobile world, while iOS is still…well, lol, mac. 90% of the world uses a PC for real business, pretty soon the market will show that the world will choose Android. Now, how could Jobs have made a better choice? Like it or not, T-mobile has ALWAYS had a strong appeal and attraction to the younger crowd. The Sidekick series was HUGE. Kids see what celebrities and athletes have, and want it. What did they see 3-6 years ago? Everyone had Sidekicks. Jobs should have seen the possible appeal, and given Tmo exclusive rights to the iPhail instead of AT&T. Had he done that, it would have been leaps and bounds ahead of its current position in the market share. We may not all agree about the iPhone, but hey, money talks and a lot of people put up with crappy AT&T to have it. At cheaper rates and better service, Tmo/Jobs could have smashed the competition. As it is, we got Android first, and started the revolution, I for one agree with some posters, don’t bring the iPhone in now, keep pushing and revolutionizing android!

    • Anonymous

      What I find interesting, is in Europe, T-Mobile WAS (Still is?) the exclusive carrier – wouldn’t it have made sense to also use T-Mobile USA? Dumb.

      • Eleni

        That’s what I don’t understand myself, but in Canada the carriers who have the iPhone use the same 3g bands as AT&T, so maybe they wanted to kill 2 birds with one stone (US & Canada)?

    • Anonymous

      What I find interesting, is in Europe, T-Mobile WAS (Still is?) the exclusive carrier – wouldn’t it have made sense to also use T-Mobile USA? Dumb.

  • jay_max

    I have no problem with this. TMO isn’t going to get out of 4th place without being really aggressive with marketing.

    • Eleni

      Is it marketing, or is it adolescent girl-like bashing?

      • BilliBolas

        its marketing, Verizon did the same thing, since when is stating a competitive advantage adolescent?

  • Ryan

    Here’s the problem with this. TMobile has always been shoddy at best in terms of marketing, and while the iPhone is a lame duck stuck on 3G, it’s still a popular phone. The average consumer who knows little to nothing about phone technology (the vast majority of consumers) think the iPhone is the greatest thing in the world. Ask around, it’s obvious. AT&T is ahead of TMobile for one reason: the iPhone. Verizon is now adding that… another genius marketing scheme by Verizon.

    We may hate the iPhone around these blogs, but TMobile would be better served from a business standpoint to add the iPhone to it’s lineup. Then they could advertise having an iPhone on a much faster 3G network than Verizon and AT&T. It seems so simple, yet the TMobile team misses the obvious yet again.

    • Eleni

      I completely agree with you. By bashing the iPhone, T-Mobile is going to push people away from them, not bring them closer.

    • Fantasticarlos Cs

      from what i read in the past, apple is the hold up not T-Mobile

    • Gfddae2

      I agree with some of this but it nice to see T-mobile marketing well finally marketing. WE haven’t seen that in 2 years, I only remember myfaves and a few mytouch commercials. Yes there are tons of people that love the flashy iphone but I know just as many people that like actually being able to hold their phone and talk and that love the freedom of android. You can do so much more with apps, movies, music on android then you can with the fort Knox iphone.

      Honestly I’m just waiting for AT&T to have large amount of subs run to Verizon. Yes T-mobile would gain more subs with the iphone but does it out weigh the large amount of money we have to pay Apple for that? T-mobile has what 20-30 phones now that are faster then the iphone, not just cell network speed just raw power they just have to market them. Hell look at Verizon adds on “Droid” and how many fans that got over the iphone. Andriod may not be as slick as iphone OS, but its almost there, I think with the next android OS and the market changes they are making we will see a huge shift to droid.

    • Gfddae2

      I agree with some of this but it nice to see T-mobile marketing well finally marketing. WE haven’t seen that in 2 years, I only remember myfaves and a few mytouch commercials. Yes there are tons of people that love the flashy iphone but I know just as many people that like actually being able to hold their phone and talk and that love the freedom of android. You can do so much more with apps, movies, music on android then you can with the fort Knox iphone.

      Honestly I’m just waiting for AT&T to have large amount of subs run to Verizon. Yes T-mobile would gain more subs with the iphone but does it out weigh the large amount of money we have to pay Apple for that? T-mobile has what 20-30 phones now that are faster then the iphone, not just cell network speed just raw power they just have to market them. Hell look at Verizon adds on “Droid” and how many fans that got over the iphone. Andriod may not be as slick as iphone OS, but its almost there, I think with the next android OS and the market changes they are making we will see a huge shift to droid.

  • Muxmarine

    T-Mobile will get the next iPhone 5/4g…. Ill bet my check on it…

  • Muxmarine

    T-Mobile will get the next iPhone 5/4g…. Ill bet my check on it…

    • Fred Flintstone

      “Ill bet my check on it..” You must not get paid alot. T-Mobile wont be getting the IPhone

  • Nardva

    T Mobile is trying to educate the customer through marketing why T Mobile is better, but after it’s all sad and done T Mobile still doesn’t have that it phone that everybody in the USA wants. Perception is the Iphone is the cool phone to have. Not the My Touch 4g, G2 or the Samsung Galaxy S 4g. T Mobile does a poor job with phone selection. I’m a T Mobile customer and I’m drooling over the Atrix and Bionic. T Mobile doesn’t have any phone to drool over.

    • Eleni

      Hopefully they will soon, if those HTC Pyramid rumors are true.

    • Anonymous

      “T Mobile doesn’t have any phone to drool over..”

      I beg to differ. Although it isn’t quite confirmed yet, T-mo supposedly has the LG Optimus 2X coming, the HTC Pyramid and the Galaxy S2.

      All of these phones have the 4.3″ screens that ppl have been begging for since the EVO 4g came out. I’ve already seen a bit of a preview of the LG Optimus 2X and the screen looks dazzling (retina+ i believe it was). I’m pretty sure the HTC is gonna rock with the qHD screen it’s coming out with & 1080p recording with HDMI out. As for the Galaxy S2, according to the rumored specs, they finally got the phone right this time around with a FFC and LED flash on it. Personally, I’m waiting to see how the Orion processors do versus the Tegra 2s in the Optimus 2X.

  • Roxva

    don’t like the ad… TMO should pursue getting the iPhone on their line up (even though I don’t like the iPhone).. business-wise, T-Mobile will get themselves out of the hole if they get the iPhone. They got it in Europe, guess they can do it in the US..

  • Roxva

    don’t like the ad… TMO should pursue getting the iPhone on their line up (even though I don’t like the iPhone).. business-wise, T-Mobile will get themselves out of the hole if they get the iPhone. They got it in Europe, guess they can do it in the US..

  • Roxva

    don’t like the ad… TMO should pursue getting the iPhone on their line up (even though I don’t like the iPhone).. business-wise, T-Mobile will get themselves out of the hole if they get the iPhone. They got it in Europe, guess they can do it in the US..

  • Roxva

    don’t like the ad… TMO should pursue getting the iPhone on their line up (even though I don’t like the iPhone).. business-wise, T-Mobile will get themselves out of the hole if they get the iPhone. They got it in Europe, guess they can do it in the US..

  • 72anthony

    I like our new leadership under Mr. Humm… He’s not afraid to deliver a few punches :P

    • Johndoejr

      I second and third that

  • 72anthony

    I like our new leadership under Mr. Humm… He’s not afraid to deliver a few punches :P

  • 72anthony

    I like our new leadership under Mr. Humm… He’s not afraid to deliver a few punches :P

  • Boxhead223

    they are just educating the customer on what they have, basically saying “We dont have the Iphone, but these 4G phones kill the iPhone. And you can have them with a cheap data package” so this may be appealing to some one that wants an iPhone like device but doesnt want to worry about data and poor service.

    and as far as T-Mobile getting the iPhone, I think they shouldn’t its past its time. Tmo should get a device that gets the same attention as the iPhone. Not sure what thatll be but if they make some better choices of phones T-Mobile will do just fine with out the iPhone

    • 72anthony

      “and as far as T-Mobile getting the iPhone, I think they shouldn’t its past its time. Tmo should get a device that gets the same attention as the iPhone. Not sure what thatll be but if they make some better choices of phones T-Mobile will do just fine with out the iPhone”.

      First off, check the news. IPhone pre-orders on Verizon are sold out.

      Second, no device will draw the same attention as the IPhone on T-Mobile. Tech people (aka tmonews.com readers) will know that there are phones that can do alot more but the average person wont care about that.

  • rmana12

    In my opinion, this marketing strategy of all 4 big carriers in the US is all waste of everything. I understand that these marketing strategies are working for the carriers but for us consumers, we will never see see the value or true competition between these carriers.

    The reason why I said that is because, how can anybody say that Grapes is better than Orage, Pear, Mango or Jackfruit if you put our Grapes in our basket? Yes, they all have similar capabilities but at the end, they’re still not the same.

    The only way we can see TRUE competition is if all carries are using a single standard radio frequency and offering an identical unlocked phone to everyone. I don’t get why any of the carriers can’t subsidize an unlocked phone is there’s early termination fees? If your service, price and customer service is truly better than anyone else then consumers like us can tell which carrier is truly better.

  • rmana12

    In my opinion, this marketing strategy of all 4 big carriers in the US is all waste of everything. I understand that these marketing strategies are working for the carriers but for us consumers, we will never see see the value or true competition between these carriers.

    The reason why I said that is because, how can anybody say that Grapes is better than Orage, Pear, Mango or Jackfruit if you put our Grapes in our basket? Yes, they all have similar capabilities but at the end, they’re still not the same.

    The only way we can see TRUE competition is if all carries are using a single standard radio frequency and offering an identical unlocked phone to everyone. I don’t get why any of the carriers can’t subsidize an unlocked phone is there’s early termination fees? If your service, price and customer service is truly better than anyone else then consumers like us can tell which carrier is truly better.

  • ME

    I’m sick of T-mobile and this “no one has 4G” crap. AT&T’s iPhone 4 is HSPA — the same as T-mobile’s network (albeit perhaps not the same speed everywhere, but they are here where I am). I’m not a fan of any carrier, but really it’s sickening.

  • ME

    I’m sick of T-mobile and this “no one has 4G” crap. AT&T’s iPhone 4 is HSPA — the same as T-mobile’s network (albeit perhaps not the same speed everywhere, but they are here where I am). I’m not a fan of any carrier, but really it’s sickening.

  • ME

    I’m sick of T-mobile and this “no one has 4G” crap. AT&T’s iPhone 4 is HSPA — the same as T-mobile’s network (albeit perhaps not the same speed everywhere, but they are here where I am). I’m not a fan of any carrier, but really it’s sickening.

    • freakonaleash

      umm no they aren’t? Where do you get that their HSPA?

    • Grafjordan

      it may be hspa but it’s not hspa+ so it’s not as fast and hspa isn’t 4g hspa+ is. Plus at&t’s hspa+ is slower than t-mobiles.

  • ME

    I’m sick of T-mobile and this “no one has 4G” crap. AT&T’s iPhone 4 is HSPA — the same as T-mobile’s network (albeit perhaps not the same speed everywhere, but they are here where I am). I’m not a fan of any carrier, but really it’s sickening.

  • Shoboy954

    I love it! This is what we need so ppl clearly see why T-Mobile is better right now

  • Kerry

    This is all great – that T-Mobile is being aggressive in their marketing. But what I want to see is an improved coverage experience nationwide. I’m tired of when I leave my home area I’m reduced to EDGE, and can’t always get a data connection. Fortunately I don’t travel a lot, but when I do I’d like the same wireless experience I have at home.

    I know T-Mobile has a plan to increase towers over the next several years (per the investors meeting TMO News posted about already)… I just hope they make that happen because once they do I think customers on the other carriers will switch.. lower price, fast speeds, and on par coverage… why not?

    • Mobile, Al Man

      Hell, everywhere on the gulf coast is on EDGE! I would take Verizon 3G over this.

      • Same here man! i live here too and the coverage here downright sucks

        • Mobile, Al Man

          This is why i am ridding out my contract with the G1 (4 more months). I refuse to buy a new phone and have EDGE service on it.

        • If T-Mobile gets its way and 3G data roaming becomes available to T-Mobile customers, those that have a Motorola DEFY, Motorola CLIQ 2, Samsung Vibrant, and maybe the Dell Streak 7 will be able to use AT&T’s 3G network through data roaming when you can’t connect to the T-Mobile tower, or through forced roaming.

      • Same here man! i live here too and the coverage here downright sucks

    • Mobile, Al Man

      Hell, everywhere on the gulf coast is on EDGE! I would take Verizon 3G over this.

  • I just want to know when they’re gonna stop playing get back on top with the RIM phones and Playbook. Between get the updated/nextgen RIM phones and Playbook, and the Droids…T-MO can easily make up lots of ground on the iphone and its carriers.

  • Civicintegra

    T-Mobile needs to give up there service and data coverage is terrible compared to AT&T and verizon. So t-mobile needs to come up with something

  • Face of Reason

    Look….nothing but the truth laid out above….and truth hurts sometimes. Perception is reality and if Joe Consumer thinks the iPhone is all that, the only way that is going to change is with aggressive marketing practices. By the way……the iPhone isnt even the highest selling phone at AT&T, a known industry fact. Another known fact is that carriers purposefully under forecast to the media for events like the launch at Verizon so that they have “newsworthy” attention

  • Joe V

    some people may hate tmobile but i’ve used my phone in over 13 metro areas in the U.S. and I also roamed in Montreal and Toronto. Tmobile service has never let me down. Once i was walking on the beach in Destin, Florida and i had 4 bars. In Dallas, I get 4 to 6mbit down and 1mbit up on my Vibrant. Verizon 3g sucks ass. Att 3g is decent because it actually hits 2mb and 3mb down. and at the end of the day i pay 120 for 3 phones with data and text. that would be a $200 bill with verizon.

    • Joe V

      by the way, tmobiles marketing sucks. instead of bashing the iphone (best phone in the world), why don’t you try to get the iphone on tmobile’s lineup. the iphone 4 is my main phone on tmobiles network. and the vibrant is my backup phone.

      • Eleni

        The iPhone is really not the best phone in the world, and yes, I’ve owned 3.

      • kosekid

        I dont think you guys are getting the point of the commercials. The iPhone 4 is tethered to crappy networks. They have never made one bad statement about the phone, in fact I think apple should want to put the iPhone on TMO after seeing the commercials…

    • Joe V

      by the way, tmobiles marketing sucks. instead of bashing the iphone (best phone in the world), why don’t you try to get the iphone on tmobile’s lineup. the iphone 4 is my main phone on tmobiles network. and the vibrant is my backup phone.

    • Hmmm, I go to Dallas every year. Downtown Dallas I get the 3G signal. Out in the ‘burbs from DFW airport to Plano, TX I barely get 2 bars and can only get 3G sporadically.

  • Havoktek

    I like it, time to take the Gloves off, Rock on TMO, Rock on!!

    • Bimmerz

      Yep, I agree!

  • Joe anthony

    well i know some of u might get mad at me for saying this but i have t-mobile and at&t . yes t-mobile network is much faster than at&t . but its worthless when you are a truck driver like me. if u travel to a lot of different states like i do . u will see a huge difference between at&t and t-mobile and i mean a huge difference t-mobile doesnt have service half of the time while at&t does. i have a mytouch 4G on t-mobile and htc surround on at&t. and the thing that pisses me off is that when u are in the middle of nowhere and t-mobile has no service and u go to network settings and it only finds at&t network it wont let u roam on it , it says it cant connect to it. so it was pointless i would just turn off my mytouch 4G and turn on my at&t htc surround i would not get at&t 3G in the middle of nowere but atleast i had at&t edge or gsm which worked fine to make calls and send texts. so yea im going to be cancelling t-mobile. whats the point of having a fast network if there coverage is horrible when compared to other companies ? i dont have verizon but one of my friends do and he also has service in all the places at&t has service in the middle of nowere were t-mobile has no service.

  • Joe anthony

    well i know some of u might get mad at me for saying this but i have t-mobile and at&t . yes t-mobile network is much faster than at&t . but its worthless when you are a truck driver like me. if u travel to a lot of different states like i do . u will see a huge difference between at&t and t-mobile and i mean a huge difference t-mobile doesnt have service half of the time while at&t does. i have a mytouch 4G on t-mobile and htc surround on at&t. and the thing that pisses me off is that when u are in the middle of nowhere and t-mobile has no service and u go to network settings and it only finds at&t network it wont let u roam on it , it says it cant connect to it. so it was pointless i would just turn off my mytouch 4G and turn on my at&t htc surround i would not get at&t 3G in the middle of nowere but atleast i had at&t edge or gsm which worked fine to make calls and send texts. so yea im going to be cancelling t-mobile. whats the point of having a fast network if there coverage is horrible when compared to other companies ? i dont have verizon but one of my friends do and he also has service in all the places at&t has service in the middle of nowere were t-mobile has no service.

    • Joe V

      yea its true that tmobile is not that great in smaller towns and rural areas but that’s because they only focus on upgrading towers in metro area to support the millions of people there. its understandable that in the boonies you will have little or no service at all. i know this from driving thru parts of texas, arkansas, louisiana, ms, alabama and fla. att and verizon have been around much longer and are hug companies compared to tmobile.

      • maryshay

        not just the boonies, I have had no signal in some very respectably sized cities. On the expressway between Chicago and Milwaukee, there really are no boonies, yet we lose calls on a regular basis. Just waiting for our contract to expire.

    • Joe V

      yea its true that tmobile is not that great in smaller towns and rural areas but that’s because they only focus on upgrading towers in metro area to support the millions of people there. its understandable that in the boonies you will have little or no service at all. i know this from driving thru parts of texas, arkansas, louisiana, ms, alabama and fla. att and verizon have been around much longer and are hug companies compared to tmobile.

    • H.F.

      sad but true…I like t-mobile for being cheaper and allegedly friendlier, but the other carriers do have much farther reaching service. One time I was even on top of South Mountain in Phoenix and couldn’t get a signal but my friend with an at&t phone could. This is on top of a mountain covered in cell towers in the 5th biggest city in the country. And my grandmother lives out in the middle of nowhere, and I get no service for MILES from her house, but my family with verizon get service AT her house.

    • Noncom3

      Actually, we are more bothered by the slaughter of the English language due to your misspelling and lack of grammar in the above post.

      • H.F.

        “we” who?

      • H.F.

        “we” who?

    • Noncom3

      Actually, we are more bothered by the slaughter of the English language due to your misspelling and lack of grammar in the above post.

  • 123

    T-Mobile advertises its service as 4G but in reality it is not. HSPA+ is 3G technology (although at the faster end), not 4G.

    • Grafjordan

      you’re wrong.

    • Maybe you dont read as many articles as I do on T-Mo news, but here are some words of advice search the site for articles regarding T-mobile as being the only carrier that fits the 4G specifications.You must be with AT-T or Verizon with a comment like that

    • bmg314

      I posted this on another site, forgive me for pasting it here, but it applies.

      Ok, once again, for those needing a quick education: The ITU, back in December, stated, “…that this term (4G), while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.”
      So, in other words, HSPA+ is 4G. HSPA+, just like WiMax and LTE, is a substantial improvement over 3G. The ITU could have easilly said, “…HSPA+ and LTE, and to other evolved 3G technologies…”
      Now, one could say that the ITU, by saying that they are “forerunners” of true 4G, is saying what we all know: that all of the carriers basically strongarmed the ITU into making this statement; that in fact true 4G is not yet available. But since the carriers, starting with Sprint in 2008, decided to call their networks 4G and advertise them as such, the ITU basically caved in and allowed everyone to say they have real 4G.
      So, to sum up: HSPA+, by today’s definition set forth by the ITU, is in fact 4G. Any argument saying otherwise, no matter what it may be, is invalid.

      • 123

        Interesting – I guess the definition of 4G has changed. Sounds like they’re 4G.

  • habas

    4G, when it comes down to it, is a marketing term. Nothing that carriers in the US are calling “4G” is actually 4G by ITU standards, not WiMax, not LTE and not HSPA+. But do consumers generally care? No. “4G” just means faster than “3G.” It is absolutely ok for T-Mobile and all other carriers to brand these not-3G-not-4G network technologies as 4G, because it’s all marketing.

    In reference to T-Mobile having this page on their website, I have to admit at first a did a major facepalm. But really, and again, this is all about marketing. They may be sore about not having the iPhone, but they have a right to be. They’re last out of the big four, and the biggest two have the hottest selling single smartphone ever. T-Mobile, now more than ever, has to get all those numb-minded consumers that would just default to the iPhone to see that they can get a comparrable experience with Android, on a “4G” network.

    Since they’re going full force with this, I’ve kinda given up hope that Tmo will ever have the iPhone, or more importantly, WebOS devices :C

    • Joeyc14

      Its now official lte wimaz hspa… are all considered 4g

      • TedC

        Actually that’s not technically true. All now have evolutionary paths to versions that are 4G (HSPA+ having just received it in a questionable technology submission pushed by TMobile). Each of these is really a family of standards and none of the versions deployed by any of the carriers is what ITU has certified as 4G.

      • Noncom3

        4G…….. it’s one better than 3G.

        LOL! Fail.

  • Spoonman

    One thing I know is if the iPhone was a really big draw, I wouldn’t be with T-Mobile. For me, I’m not interested in iPhone, iTunes and getting stuck back in that ecosystem. I’m happy with good Android and Windows Phone 7 choices….

    As for the ad, I like it.

  • Joe V

    i dont care about the 4g labeling. but i have not seen att surpass 3 or 4mb and tmobile is doing 6-9mb right now depending on what city you’re in. so verizon cant say shit with their speeds of 1mb.

  • Bobert

    WOW where does one begin with just how awful and desperate TMO has become?
    They are like the short guy who has to pick fights with everyone he meets.
    Its sad to because look at tall the great products tmobile is rolling out!
    I love the MT4G! BETTER PHONE than the Nexus 1 IMHO. Although sheesh that N1 has a friggin gorgeous screen!
    So TMO touts their $10 plan yet in the same box claims you can, “watch tv”?!?!?! RIIIIIIIGHT and in a VERY SHORT TIME blow past your alloted MB’s. LOL!!!!
    TMO loves deception.
    Anyway their green with envy about the Iphone is rather sad. Verizon had their biggest sale day today in the history of the company so I can see why TMO is jealous.
    Everyone loves to take shots at the big guy.

  • T-Mobile please sit this one out. If you had the iPhone that would be a whole different story. Honestly I would rather have a better phone on a slower network than a crappy phone on a fast network. T-Mobile is doing a better job at getting good phones but it seems they miss the mark each time on snagging a stellar phone. The HTC Pyramid sounds promising

  • Mahogany1

    As i say all the time Tmobile picks the worse phones and products. All the new products that are making our mouths water are all on other networks. No xoom , no iphone and no update for cliq xt. hmmm

    • Bobert

      I feel your pain on the XT. The original Cliq was updated to 2.1 but when using Navi (at least on my wife’s) if the screen timesout the navi is disconnected. WTF?
      They do have the G-Slate coming soon and the Pyramid so their offerings are improving.
      I am personally waiting on the Toshiba tablet and hoping it has a lower price point than the G-slate.
      Maybe it will given no 3-D although I personally dont need 3-D.

  • Mahogany1

    As i say all the time Tmobile picks the worse phones and products. All the new products that are making our mouths water are all on other networks. No xoom , no iphone and no update for cliq xt. hmmm

  • Anonymous

    ENOUGH!!!!! Seriously, when is TMo going to get a ‘GREAT” phone? All these phones that they have are crap….even the G2. Seriously, who cares! And BTW… TMo should fix their 3G coverage before talking about 4G. Verizon is laughing all the way to the bank with the Iphone 4 while we’re here waiting for the Samsung Vibrant 4g? LOL. 10 DAYS til’ we’ll see if TMo steps up to the plate!

    • why is the g2 crap? Its seriously one of the fastest phones out there. I mean I dont know what to say without sounding like a tmo fanboy but damn playa…. are you living under a rock.. or do you come from the future where phones are just a part of your brain? What phone are you thinking about that can process better graphics or run at a greater speed than the top phones on tmobile?

      • AdrianG2

        Thank you Noel. The G2 is the fastest phone out right now between all carriers. The iPhone cant compare nor can any phone on verizon or the lame EVO.

        • The 800 MHz Scorpion processor in the G2 is NOT the fastest between all carriers. 1Ghz is in many phones now and is faster.

        • ihatefanboys

          wow, u are retarded. someone should link u the multiple articles on the net describing the difference btween the processor in the G2 and those in the 1Ghz phones u mention. the processor in the G2 is as fast if not faster than competing 1Ghz processors. its been well documented. you are a shining turd example of people that only know numbers but have no clue what they mean. unfortunately turds like u represent a huge portion of people that buy phones based on hearsay and friends suggestions, then u read something in school and u actually learn that a Gig is bigger than a Hz and you feel smarter, but u dont understand that there are different generations of processors and even if theyre running at slower speeds they actually are faster…its confusing , i know, maybe u should just go back to watching jersey shore, or glee.

    • Ender

      My Glacier is one great phone, sure it doesn’t have a 4.3 inch screen but thats it. Root it and got CM7 running on it, i can overclock faster than any device other than the G2 (which is also a great phone) Sure it doesn’t compare to the Atrix, but its not even out yet and when it does drop no other phone out will. Too bad its stuck on its crappy provider. Lets wait and see what happens at MWC

    • Noncom3

      Totally true. The gayest of the gayest as far as phone selection.

      • rubi76

        Please name me other phones on other networks that you would like TMO to have, besides the iphone.
        Tmo selection of phones with the g2, mytouch 4g, and the new ones coming is as good as it gets…

        • ihatefanboys

          i agree, me and my wife have the G2 and the MyTouch4G respectively. they are the best. ive played with my bosses iphone4 , what a mess, u cant customize the homescreen, in fact u have only one homescreen…and all the button does is open up a screen with all your apps, cant hide em, move em around, nothing….its crap…..plus theres that antennae problem. tmobile dont need the iphone…..cant wait till next year round october when the G3 premiers.

    • Noncom3

      Totally true. The gayest of the gayest as far as phone selection.

    • Noncom3

      Totally true. The gayest of the gayest as far as phone selection.

    • Noncom3

      Totally true. The gayest of the gayest as far as phone selection.

    • rubi76

      Please name me other phones on other networks that you would like TMO to have, besides the iphone.
      Tmo selection of phones with the g2, mytouch 4g, and the new ones coming is as good as it gets…

    • Jamespwolpert

      I can lay your worries to rest in these few, modest words:
      Htc pyramid.
      Galaxy s2.
      Check the specs. Turns out tmo has stepped up to the plate. What we didn’t know is that, this year, tmo is barry bonds :-)

  • exactly

  • Robsjeffries

    look… I think Apple is a smart company and they’re probably thinking this: “we’re already getting money from Tmobile customers… they’re paying ridiculous amounts of money to go to the Apple store, buy one for full price and unlocking it to work with Tmobile.” – What Apple couldn’t do was sell a phone compatible with Verizon and Sprint, so they changed the insides around and signed a contract with Verizon.

    I’m a tmobile customer and will probably always be a tmobile customer. They have the best prices and best customer service. And Good phones, not the best, but good.

    • Josue2282

      what is the difference between iphone and mytouch 4g?

    • Josue2282

      what is the difference between iphone and mytouch 4g?

      • c130

        Operating Systems….. Huge Difference!!!!

        • ihatefanboys

          yup, and the mytouch wins big time !!!

      • ihatefanboys

        the MyTouch 4G or the HTC G2 are the best phones to buy. whats the difference btween an iphone ? the iphone is an outdated piece of crap.

      • Amyferrell00

        Speed, 4g capabilities, full web browsing experience (flash 10.1), streaming without buffering, camera with flash and then the ability to text those pictures, multitasking, unlimited data plans. Just a few things.

  • KimKimono

    Bottom line, T-mobile needs to find its niche. Customer service is slipping and has been for the past few years, the prices on rate plans are ok-but they aren’t the lowest, the coverage is fine as long as you live in a city, and now every company has line up of Android phones.

    They do not stand out with customer service, coverage, prices (companies like Metro PCS are expanding rapidly in large cities and offer better rates), and since the demise of the Sidekick haS no signature handset. Still the launch of HSPDA will be the first true 4g network in the US-but again-the launch and roll out with be at a snail pace and based in large cities.

    This is a desperate attempt to stay viable in a competitive market. Nearly 70% of all jail break iphones are used on the T-Mobile network, and many over seas handsets are used on T-Mobile network thanks to decent no contract pricing. This does not change the sudden realization that contracts pull in more money than non contracts and the sudden push to get customers into contracts may be counter productive. I could keep ranting but I’ve got to transfer an itunes library to my new iPhone.

    • Amwilliams923

      Bottom line, T-mobile needs to find its niche. Customer service is slipping and has been for the past few years, the prices on rate plans are ok-but they aren’t the lowest, the coverage is fine as long as you live in a city, and now every company has line up of Android phones.

      1. JD Powers Awards T-Mobile For Best Customer Service: Second Year in a row.
      They do not stand out with customer service, coverage, prices (companies like Metro PCS are expanding rapidly in large cities and offer better rates), and since the demise of the Sidekick haS no signature handset:
      2. You are right they have Signature handset(s) Samsung Vibrant™, myTouch 4G, Motorola DEFY, Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy S 4G.
      Nearly 70% of all jail break iphones are used on the T-Mobile network, and many over seas handsets are used on T-Mobile network:
      3. Re-read what you typed, Seems that everyone wants in on the Tmobile network. Even Iphone users.
      Your post makes no sense and has no merit. Tmobile is the number 4 mobile company in the United States and is the youngest of all of the big ones.

    • Noncom3

      ‘Customer service is slipping and has been for the past few years’

      More true words have never been spoken. I agree completely. (T-Mobe 10 years, but not any more)

  • DWC

    It’s like an ant claiming it can whip an elephants butt. All you can do is laugh

  • Party Cloudy

    Lets face it, until TMO gets the iPhone (officially here in the states), they will always be irrelevant. Whether the iPhone is a good phone or not, people are still jumping on the bandwagon. With TMOs cheaper data plans, better customer service and worldwide presence, they would clean up if they got the iPhone.

    • 123 4me

      Dude… what is all this lust over the iPhone about??? The first one was great because it was first, but since then… it has so much competition. I don’t want the thing because of screen size and that it’s not with my favorite carrier.
      Choose the carrier you prefer… at least that’s what I do & I save $40-$60/month with Tmo vs the other 3.

      • Jimmy

        From your perspective yea, I agree with you. But you know what, T-mobile is here to make money, their soul mission is not here to save you money, sure maybe they use that as one of their selling point but they are not there to save you money. The fact is people love the iPhone, they want it and they are willing to suffer ATT’s crappy network for it. So figure out a way to get it, so you can join the big boy.

        • 123 4me

          Right… every biz needs to make money. Compare any T-Mobile plan with the other 3 big dogs and Tmo wins. So if you’re in an area, like mine, that has great coverage for all 4 carriers, then Tmo wins hands down. The ONLY reason that Tmo, hasn’t exploded in areas like this, is because their lack of awesome phones. However I believe that’s changing soon with the HTC Pyramid (still a rumor) and expected 2011 releases. I keep forgetting the iPhone exists til someone mentions it. Seriously.

        • 123 4me

          Right… every biz needs to make money. Compare any T-Mobile plan with the other 3 big dogs and Tmo wins. So if you’re in an area, like mine, that has great coverage for all 4 carriers, then Tmo wins hands down. The ONLY reason that Tmo, hasn’t exploded in areas like this, is because their lack of awesome phones. However I believe that’s changing soon with the HTC Pyramid (still a rumor) and expected 2011 releases. I keep forgetting the iPhone exists til someone mentions it. Seriously.

        • ihatefanboys

          tmo dont want crap, thats why they will never get the crap iphone. android is the future of mobile, and tmobile knows that. the iphone will lose the war, the same way PC beat MACS. how many wars does apple have to lose before its dead. i cant wait for the day when google buys apple and dismantles it in spite.

        • Bratty

          You are dumber than your mama made ya. Look at something called “market cap” for both companies and then go slap yourself

        • Bratty

          You are dumber than your mama made ya. Look at something called “market cap” for both companies and then go slap yourself

  • awol

    yup, desparate.

  • maryshay

    Largest 4G network?? We have been with T-Mobile for 1-2 years now, after 10 years with AT&T. We were told at the time we signed up, that T-Mobile shares towers with AT&T when necessary, so we were assured that my husbands 50 mile commute to work would be trouble free, till recently, when suddenly, one conversation gets dropped 3 times. This is becoming the norm with T-Mobile. When I called them, I was told they DID have an arrangement to share towers with AT&T (focus on past tense “DID”) I still have a year to go on my contract, and they absolutely refuse to waive the $200 cancellation fee, even though the service they are provided has diminished substantially. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH T-MOBILE AND WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE RESIGNING WITH THEM WHEN MY CONTRACT IS UP! I have less dropped calls with AT&T over a 10 year span (including driving from Wisconsin to Florida) than I have had over the last 6 months with T-Mobile. BEWARE OF PROMISES MADE BY SMOOTH TALKING SALESMEN!!! THEY WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING YOU WISH TO HEAR TO GET YOU TO SIGN WITH THEM.

    • Noncom3

      I was (key word ‘was’) with T-Mobile for 10 years and stopped service with them for this very reason. I actually remember an incident 8 years ago where I incurred strange roaming charges to my monthly bill. It raised an alarm because I had not gone out of my city that month. After calling them the sales associate said it was “borrowed cell carrier tower minutes”. WTF?!!?!? I had these sneaky charges taken off because, just like you, was promised at the time of purchase that AT&T towers were ‘shared’.

      • Patricjames

        You wanna know something funny, I was with AT&T for 3 years and had this same incedent well over 10 times and fought countless hours on the phone with them trying to get them removed on top of that getting dropped while on the phone with customer service several times only to have only two of these charges removed, one that I had to pay was over 160 dollars, So I dropped them and went with verizon and wouldn’t you know it, three months into service and I got those same strange roaming charges when I was on a nationwide plan, 9 months into the contract was the big kicker, I got a 1000 dollar phone bill. partial roaming and extended network something, they fought me on this and actually tried to send me to collections over this while I still had service with them, so I broke my contract and signed up with tmobile, everything was awesome for the first five months and then I had some data charges when I didn’t have a data plan or smart phone, I though man I am going to have to fight them to, so I called them and was shocked, the first words out of their mouth was oh we are sorry for the trouble and they reversed them, and since then if I ever have a problem I call and it gets fix the first time. No carrier is perfect but tmobile has the best customer service hands down

  • maryshay

    Largest 4G network?? We have been with T-Mobile for 1-2 years now, after 10 years with AT&T. We were told at the time we signed up, that T-Mobile shares towers with AT&T when necessary, so we were assured that my husbands 50 mile commute to work would be trouble free, till recently, when suddenly, one conversation gets dropped 3 times. This is becoming the norm with T-Mobile. When I called them, I was told they DID have an arrangement to share towers with AT&T (focus on past tense “DID”) I still have a year to go on my contract, and they absolutely refuse to waive the $200 cancellation fee, even though the service they are provided has diminished substantially. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH T-MOBILE AND WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE RESIGNING WITH THEM WHEN MY CONTRACT IS UP! I have less dropped calls with AT&T over a 10 year span (including driving from Wisconsin to Florida) than I have had over the last 6 months with T-Mobile. BEWARE OF PROMISES MADE BY SMOOTH TALKING SALESMEN!!! THEY WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING YOU WISH TO HEAR TO GET YOU TO SIGN WITH THEM.

  • Markmyword

    As an ad, it hits spot on. Visually showing the real differences between carriers in an easy to understand format visually and textually. And really, they’re after the masses…not us tech geeks with this ad. Having been in the technology field for 20+ years I’m impressed with Apple but prefer a more open system and android is that environment. You can also count on harsh competition among the android manufacturers which will push the technology ahead quickly. Apple got out quickly but Android phones have caught up and in my opinion, surpassed them.

    Tmobile in my opinion has the best customer service of any company, inside or out of the cell business, that I have contacted and their pricing is fair. Coverage and speed are dependent of city. I live near Baltimore so I’m lucky in always getting the newest upgrades in service first. I have a mytouch 3g and consistently get 4.5mgs/sec downloads. I’m happy with that. I’ve got my phone rooted and tethered and use it all day long. With 5gigs of data download I have to be careful but they only throttle you back when you go over the 5gigs…and it’s definitely usable for everything but streaming video. Whatever city I’ve traveled to, I get good service. I’ve driven from Maine to the florida keys and never had a problem. Out west, I can’t comment on.

    4g? Listen, the only thing that counts is throughput. Tmobile provides great throughput in my area and I’ll be interested to see the bump in speed when I upgrade to a 4g phone. Once this occurs, it would be nice for them to offer a truly unlimited plan. I’d pay for it.

  • Athblogger

    I do not think anything above is inaccurate. So what is the problem?

  • these are the facts……….. T-mobile knows how to fight………..bring it on

  • jumptheshark

    Once a hare was roaming near a lake in a forest. Suddenly he saw a tortoise and mocked at him saying – “Hurry up, you slow coach! Don’t you find life very dull taking so long to cover a few yards? I could have run to the other side of the lake by now.”

    The tortoise felt teased and dared the hare to a race. The race was to be through the wood to a fixed goal.

    The hare agreed laughingly. In a few minutes he was away and out of sight.

    “What a funny race it is!” he said to himself , “I am already half -way through. But it is too-too cold; why not have a nap in the warm sunshine?”

    The tortoise walked steadily on and on. In a short time, he passed by the sleeping hare.

    The hare slept far longer then he had intended. When he woke up at last, he looked around in surprise and said to himself,” Not even a sigh of the poor tortoise anywhere so far; I had better trot along and finish the race.”

    The hare ran to the goal. He was amazed to see all the animals cheering the tortoise who had arrived just a minute earlier. how ashamed he felt indeed!

  • Noncom3

    LMAO!!!!

  • Noncom3

    LMAO!!!!

  • Noncom3

    LMAO!!!!

  • Noncom3

    LMAO!!!!

  • Noncom3

    LMAO!!!!

  • C130

    I don’t really think speed is that much of an issue (since most speeds are fairly close). The real issue is the reliability of the phone. I carry my iPod 4G more than I carry my phone, because my phone is that awful (Samsung Behold 2). As a programmer, a PC is my world, but at home I have 3 Macs. Apple really is that much better. I will take an awesome phone on a slower network over a crappy phone on the fastest network….ANY DAY!!! Bring on the IPhone… and if T-Mobile doesn’t have it by November, I will be going to another carrier.

    • Or you could just buy an Android phone that’s, you know, good?

      What you’re doing is like paying for a Kia and complaining that it’s not a Bentley.

    • Or you could just buy an Android phone that’s, you know, good?

      What you’re doing is like paying for a Kia and complaining that it’s not a Bentley.

    • Waterstander

      As a programmer how could you not use a linux?
      I agree the behold 2 was a bad build however, it improved once rooted.

    • Ummmm excuse me..There is no such thing as a IPod 4G..The hell planet do you live on?? lmmfao. You also actualy bought a Behold 2?? and you call yourself a programmer?? #TRIPLEFAIL

      • sumo

        ur an idiot, he was referring to his 4th generation ipod, meaning the 4th ipod made available to consumers.

        • c130

          Exactly, Sumo. I would rather carry an Ipod 4G (yes MP3 not a phone) than carry my actual phone. When I purchased it, I had to chose between the Mytouch, G1 or the behold2. So I made the wrong choice, I give you that. Guess what, once you buy, you are stuck. Imagine that. As for the dropped calls comment, I would not stand for dropped calls, but I would chose an Iphone on a 3G network over my android experience on a 4G network. The programming point, I don’t want to have to program my phone, because I am not the only one that uses it. When I go to Afghanistan, the last thing that I want to do is try to figure out how to get the phone that my family is using, operational again.

      • You Fail

        fail.

      • 123 4me

        You said exactly what every person who read C130’s post was thinking.

        Like people are supposed to assume what he really meant, as said below.. That sounds like my ex-girlfriend always screaming “you know what I mean!!!”. Ha! “Nope” sorry woman… I don’t.

    • Ummmm excuse me..There is no such thing as a IPod 4G..The hell planet do you live on?? lmmfao. You also actualy bought a Behold 2?? and you call yourself a programmer?? #TRIPLEFAIL

    • ihatefanboys

      your post reminds me of the mytouch 4g commercial with the iphone standing there shirtless because he had to give At&T his shirt for his data plan, and AT&T says “sometimes u gotta pay more to be slower” and then “it makes more sense if you dont think about it” …..which sounds exactly like you. you would rather have dropped calls, and slow internet because apple is great. your an ass. tmobile dont care if u leave, its simple, so go. theyre not getting the iphone. before u give up on tmo, get a G2, it puts the iphone to shame, makes it look like a 1995 nextel.

      • iPhonecator

        You’re clueless if you think Tmo doesn’t care. Companies have to care to survive even if they don’t show it. You honestly believe that Tmo hasn’t approached APPLE about carrying the iPhone? Look @ Verizon. They publicly ridiculed the iPhone and AT&T for years, yet, there were backdoor negotiations going on between Verizon and iPhone. iPhone in Germany was exclusive to Tmo Germany.

        Just like C130, I use PC @ work, but use MAC @ home. It’s night and day. Apple technologies are seamless.

        I have an officially unlocked iPhone 3GS which I bought from the APPLE store in Sydney. I was hoping that Tmo would eventually get the iPhone, but July would be cut-off date for me. I’ve tried the G1, Nexus One, Samsung Behold as well as Blackberry Storm. Nothing comes close to my iPhone 3GS when it comes to it’s seamless operation. I’ve been a very loyal Tmo customers for years, but I’ll be moving to a different carrier if Tmo doesn’t end up carrying iPhones by summer 2011.

        • amy

          i hear ya. I have tmobile and JB / unlocked to work with tmo but issues with pic n video message.Iotherwise I swear by this…as a mac user wont use windows, I will keep my iphone 3gs till newer iphone available at tmo, but I wait impatiently!!! and well…..I want full iphone experience

      • iPhonecator

        You’re clueless if you think Tmo doesn’t care. Companies have to care to survive even if they don’t show it. You honestly believe that Tmo hasn’t approached APPLE about carrying the iPhone? Look @ Verizon. They publicly ridiculed the iPhone and AT&T for years, yet, there were backdoor negotiations going on between Verizon and iPhone. iPhone in Germany was exclusive to Tmo Germany.

        Just like C130, I use PC @ work, but use MAC @ home. It’s night and day. Apple technologies are seamless.

        I have an officially unlocked iPhone 3GS which I bought from the APPLE store in Sydney. I was hoping that Tmo would eventually get the iPhone, but July would be cut-off date for me. I’ve tried the G1, Nexus One, Samsung Behold as well as Blackberry Storm. Nothing comes close to my iPhone 3GS when it comes to it’s seamless operation. I’ve been a very loyal Tmo customers for years, but I’ll be moving to a different carrier if Tmo doesn’t end up carrying iPhones by summer 2011.

  • C130

    I don’t really think speed is that much of an issue (since most speeds are fairly close). The real issue is the reliability of the phone. I carry my iPod 4G more than I carry my phone, because my phone is that awful (Samsung Behold 2). As a programmer, a PC is my world, but at home I have 3 Macs. Apple really is that much better. I will take an awesome phone on a slower network over a crappy phone on the fastest network….ANY DAY!!! Bring on the IPhone… and if T-Mobile doesn’t have it by November, I will be going to another carrier.

  • Slufnevets

    All this complaining about which carrier is better, all this talk about the greatness of the iPhone! Get a life! This is why we live in America. Each carrier has issues. So pick the one that works best for you. Depends on where you live, depends on how you use your phone, depends on if you travel. As for phones, all the carriers have some duds. All have some great phones. It is true, I agree, sometimes a person wonders, why can’t they just add a couple more features to the the latest release of a new phone? This would make them perfect for the individual that buys the phone. Android vs. iPhone? Each has it’s high and low points. Myself, I prefer Android, but I certainly respect iPhone. I agree, hands down, iPhone is best in quality. iPhone is just cool! Apple knows how to make things cool! Retina screen! Wow! Pinch to zoom! Wow! Smoothness! Wow! App Store! Wow! I still go for Android. Why? Customization. Multi-tasking. Micro SD cards. Removable batteries. Flash. No matter the quality build, no matter how cool and smooth, I like these features. Most importantly, I refuse to accept Mr. Jobs deciding for me what I need, or what is moral, or where I must make my purchases. He has no right to decide for me which carrier I need to use. I have the utmost of respect, and marvel at his genius, but I will always side with free choice. Android has a ways to go, but don”t tell me iPhone is the best. They have much work to do also.

    • C130

      Longest post so far, and you’re telling us to get a life……. ring, ring…….. It’s the pot calling!

    • iDroid

      Wow, what a hypocritical comment. You talk about how it’s pointless to say what’s better and then you go on telling everyone what’s better.

      Get a life!

    • ihatefanboys

      almost thought u were an iclown and almost flamed u, lol. well u say u like android but u mention the WOW factors of the iphone. well android has all the same WOW factors. Android has pinch to zoom, smoothness, market, superLCD (rated better than retina). so add that to all the reasons u love android and u got not a single reason to waste all that money on an iphone.

  • Slufnevets

    All this complaining about which carrier is better, all this talk about the greatness of the iPhone! Get a life! This is why we live in America. Each carrier has issues. So pick the one that works best for you. Depends on where you live, depends on how you use your phone, depends on if you travel. As for phones, all the carriers have some duds. All have some great phones. It is true, I agree, sometimes a person wonders, why can’t they just add a couple more features to the the latest release of a new phone? This would make them perfect for the individual that buys the phone. Android vs. iPhone? Each has it’s high and low points. Myself, I prefer Android, but I certainly respect iPhone. I agree, hands down, iPhone is best in quality. iPhone is just cool! Apple knows how to make things cool! Retina screen! Wow! Pinch to zoom! Wow! Smoothness! Wow! App Store! Wow! I still go for Android. Why? Customization. Multi-tasking. Micro SD cards. Removable batteries. Flash. No matter the quality build, no matter how cool and smooth, I like these features. Most importantly, I refuse to accept Mr. Jobs deciding for me what I need, or what is moral, or where I must make my purchases. He has no right to decide for me which carrier I need to use. I have the utmost of respect, and marvel at his genius, but I will always side with free choice. Android has a ways to go, but don”t tell me iPhone is the best. They have much work to do also.

  • Waterstander

    I think everyone should head over to the FCC and check what real 4g should be.

    • Moosiclovr801

      agreed. America has no TRUE 4G network yet. just a lot of different kinds of networks. 4G is based on speed, not type of network and we haven’t broken that speed barrier yet into 4G. that being said, it is nice to have a fast network like the HSPA+ I have on my MT4G… but i wish people would realize commercials don’t teach you anything, they persuade.

    • Windroidz

      No carrier has “real 4G” and wont for quite some time…to be considered true 4G it has be a minimum of 10,000kbps at all times…tmob is like 3.7G sprint is 3.7G and vzw is 3.8G. 4G is a scam its faster then 3G for sure but not even close to what it should be my G2 has an avg of 4000kbps to 6000kpbs and highest ive seen is 7550kbps… still far superior to the 3Gs maxing out in the 2500kbps range

    • Windroidz

      No carrier has “real 4G” and wont for quite some time…to be considered true 4G it has be a minimum of 10,000kbps at all times…tmob is like 3.7G sprint is 3.7G and vzw is 3.8G. 4G is a scam its faster then 3G for sure but not even close to what it should be my G2 has an avg of 4000kbps to 6000kpbs and highest ive seen is 7550kbps… still far superior to the 3Gs maxing out in the 2500kbps range

    • Windroidz

      No carrier has “real 4G” and wont for quite some time…to be considered true 4G it has be a minimum of 10,000kbps at all times…tmob is like 3.7G sprint is 3.7G and vzw is 3.8G. 4G is a scam its faster then 3G for sure but not even close to what it should be my G2 has an avg of 4000kbps to 6000kpbs and highest ive seen is 7550kbps… still far superior to the 3Gs maxing out in the 2500kbps range

  • Waterstander

    I think everyone should head over to the FCC and check what real 4g should be.

  • Jimmy

    Just figure out a way to get the iPhone T-mobile. Stop these useless struggle, how long can you keep this up? Stop playing the 4G game and trying to trick the general public. I have your G2 in a what you so called “4G” area and it constantly locks up and it really isn’t that much faster…

    • ihatefanboys

      the G2 is amazingly fast. what kind of loser are u to keep a phone that keeps “locking up” and not return it ???

      • Halbert

        That’s why I want the iPhone on T-Mobile. Tired of these apps force closing.

      • Halbert

        That’s why I want the iPhone on T-Mobile. Tired of these apps force closing.

      • Jimmy

        The phone doesn’t lock up, merely the signal, sometimes the phone would keep on trying to access the network (with the little up arrow blinking) but will receive no response from the network. Also, unless you are 12 there is no point for personal attack, that just make you look more like a G2/T-mobile fan boy.

  • I dont see the problem. They stated factual information in this ad. It would be different if it were just low blows. I dont see it a desperation at all. I actually see it as explaining in layman’s temrs to the end-user that may not be tech savvy or those who thing the Iphone 4 is a 4G device when its basically an Edge/UMTS primarily run device.

    • PattyO

      That’s the deal though, none of what they are saying is factual. Read anywhere about T-Mobile’s “4G” network and you will learn that HSPA+ is not a 4G band. There is only 1 company right now that has truly 4G capable phones and that is Sprint. T-Mobile is just using faster 3G and calling it 4G because it is a buzzword to get people to buy phones, the very definition of desperation.

      • ihatefanboys

        actually “Patty” the “faster 3G” as you put it has officially been categorized as 4G. check your facts before u open your mouth. and Btw how do u know sprints 4g is real and not a “buzzword to get people to buy phones” are u an engineer ? or maybe u work for sprint ? which would hardly put u in a position to make an unbiased opinion about anything. shut up and quit while ur ahead. right now you are the “very definition of desperation”

      • Anonymous

        LMAO

  • Matlock

    Ok, you know what all this bickering is just getting out of hand! The iPhone is honestly the best marketed phone in the world, so of course everyone and their mother wants to have one. It definitely is not the best phone on the market, but it is very good! Do I personally like the iPhone? Nope, I could care less about it. If the marketing wasnt there for the iPhone would everyone be all gung hoe, bout it? no they wouldnt! For all those that complain, about force closing on Android, well guess what? The Iphone has issues too! I know plenty of iPhone users that have their phones freeze on them, and crash on them also! So all is not, perfect with the iPhone. I admit it, I wanted an iPhone when it originally launched, but got a G1 when it first came and havent looked back since, nor cared about the iPhone. If T-Mobile gets the iPhone, great all that will mean is more customers for them. Until then, they will continue to compare their offerings to the iPhone that is offered by the competition.

  • Matlock

    Ok, you know what all this bickering is just getting out of hand! The iPhone is honestly the best marketed phone in the world, so of course everyone and their mother wants to have one. It definitely is not the best phone on the market, but it is very good! Do I personally like the iPhone? Nope, I could care less about it. If the marketing wasnt there for the iPhone would everyone be all gung hoe, bout it? no they wouldnt! For all those that complain, about force closing on Android, well guess what? The Iphone has issues too! I know plenty of iPhone users that have their phones freeze on them, and crash on them also! So all is not, perfect with the iPhone. I admit it, I wanted an iPhone when it originally launched, but got a G1 when it first came and havent looked back since, nor cared about the iPhone. If T-Mobile gets the iPhone, great all that will mean is more customers for them. Until then, they will continue to compare their offerings to the iPhone that is offered by the competition.

  • Tnaseeder77

    Nothing wrong here, if you do speed tests the truth is there, im sure there are areas in which one carrier will dominate the other which allows them to claim what they want. Only a few months ago Verizon had commercials making fun of the iphone and att. Truth is they are here to make money and they are huge corporations, people commenting that one service sucks just had a bad experience but their one opinion really doesnt matter. T-mobile is young in terms of age compared to the other companies but can still hang with the big boys in the short of time theyve had so thats something to give props for. For the other people out there who think they know everything..you don’t. You don’t own a cell phone company that is nation wide so shut up, t-mobile or any other carrier dont give a rats ass what you think, youre going to have a cell phone with one company regardless and youll complain with them too. As far as “4g” if you think it’s pathetic that T-mobile is claiming it as “4g” look at the other carriers you love so much they are doing the same thing with similar speeds so stfu and deal with the world around you…you are not the center of a cell companies interest, you can complain all you want and post comments but one way or another youre giving them money.

  • A_g_ness

    T-Mobile is basically telling us all that they will be getting the iPhone 5 this summer and that they want us all to wait for the i5 until they get it.

  • A_g_ness

    Have you guys seen the tmobile ad when they say that the iPhone 4 will be short lived because the iPhone 5 will most likely be released this summer. Basically by doing this they are saying to wait for the iPhone 5. Why would they want us all to wait for the i5? Maybe because they will be carrying the iPhone 5 this summer!!!

  • XXINMATEXX

    TMOBILE STATEMENTS ARE FALSE I TESTED A IPHONE 4 VS A G2 AT SPEEDTEST.NET AND IPHONE BLEW IT AWAY.CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW..

    • Learntoread

      You do realize you tested a 3G vs 3G the statements are 3G vs 4G. Yes we can hear you now, it sounded like I am illiterate.

      • Learntoread

        Oohhh and I do know the g2 is a 4g phone but is your city covered and maybe you should take a networking class no matter how good of a connection on 3G it won’t be faster than a decent connection on 4g

    • Learntoread

      You do realize you tested a 3G vs 3G the statements are 3G vs 4G. Yes we can hear you now, it sounded like I am illiterate.

    • Charlie

      Haha that’s FUNNY!….too bad my mytouch 4G blows all my friends iPhone 4’s out of the water when it comes to speed. I’ve clocked my phone at 26mbps a whole hell of a lot faster than the iPhone 4 (3G).

    • Kirbi182

      provide more details as in location where these tests have been done. Don’t slam your fists on your chest and point useless information on the internet for ex. my s2000 burned this gt mustang the other night…. oh failed to mention theres a high end turbo with cold air intake and a complete exhaust installation where the gt was stock.

      I know no one will care but i just wanna state my point.

  • XXINMATEXX

    TMOBILE STATEMENTS ARE FALSE I TESTED A IPHONE 4 VS A G2 AT SPEEDTEST.NET AND IPHONE BLEW IT AWAY.CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW..

  • Bklynite78

    People are going to buy the Iphone no matter what….its like trying to stop someone from buying a Sony tv…they are not going to listen..its all about the brand to some people…

    • more like exclusivity, its like the story of how facebook became so popular. the apple MBP’s and iphone’s make people feel like they’re together you know? so they get it and that whole ios environment is taken cared of by the best dev’s out there. they wouldnt dare make a low budget app (let me correct myself, wouldnt dare make an app with a “cheap” user interface) because then they just wouldnt make it to threw the approval for the market. so when you get the ios, its really not about the network as you can tell because people still sighned 2 year contracts (even a 4 year contract if they had to) its about the phone & the exclusive games,apps.partner’s. they always get the big hit game’s before android like if we get sloppy seconds..then when we do its a dumbed down looking app, example..the trillian instant messenger on the iphone vs, the trillian on the android. cmon we have the power to make & use that interface and we just got some new tool’s to make better games & better apps from google for android at last! from froyo & up itll get better. one thing they need to get threw there thick head is that android needs that silky smooth 60htz/60fps u.i. with the dual cores it should be possible to be that smooth and be multitasking, one reason ios/iphone is not true & wasnt Multitasking uptill now is because they needed to use half or more than half of the cpu along with the gpu to keep the U.I. so smooth but with the A4 processor theyre able to run small apps in multitask mode but still limited untill they come out with the next gen dual core iphone with enough power to keep there interface smooth and …. you know what im getting at. the only phone that i see is making a stand was samsung with there galaxy s & galaxy tab. they set the standard so that even google took it as the second nexus, the nexus s. but now dual cores came up and samsung should be unleashing the orion chipset with the sgx 540 gpu because that cpu still gives tegra 2’s gpu a run for there $ and when they unleash the sgx 543 itll be over and hopefully they make it with some metal exterior to add some this aint a plastic toy attitude to it. anyway those are just my thoughts,

  • Tasha

    Interesting choice using a hare considering what happened at the end of the race.

    I think this ad makes T-Mo look like they are trying too hard. The part that really gets me is “and their iPhones”. Really? T-MoUSA wishes they had a Magenta-branded iPhone so that they could increase their customer base. This ad is so long and so poorly executed that it doesn’t make me thing T-Mo is a better choice. Rather, it reeks of “haterade”.

    Oh, and this is from someone a proud T-Mo/MyTouch 3G Slide user. I don’t give a rats derriere about the iPhone. However, unlike T-Mo I can recognize its dominance in the mobile industry without waving a corny ad in people’s faces.

    Major lame.

    • Lars

      It’s no different than a politician pointing out every flaw of the opposition. I admit I think it is annoying. But this kind of advertising works so they will do it.

      Also, they are not exactly wrong. For all the technology touted by the other companies TMO has shown they have the ability to roll out faster speeds than the competition whenever they want. They spent the money upgrading their system, they know they are going to be able to just let out more rope as the other carriers try to keep up with the download speed race.

      Also a slide holder.

  • syk0matik420

    I like this ad. T-mobile makes several good points. And the ONLY reason the crappy iphone a.k.a gayguyphone sells so well is for this reason:
    Simple minds need simple phones. And there are A LOT of simpletons out there. Hence the reason the icantphone sells so well: only morons buy it. No smart person would choose apple over android. Unless they happen to b homosexual as well. Iphone sucks. Verizon sucks. Att sucks. Awesome ad tmobile.

    • hatchet wound

      It’s always the loudest homophobes that have something to hide.

      • That is a completely unnecessary comment. Kiss it goodbye!

    • scijunkie

      I happen to “b” a homosexual and I purchased the G1 on its release day and currently am using a G2. I have been following the development of the android operating platform since it was in its infancy, before Verizon’s Droid line of phones, which have only helped expand Android’s recognizability to the simpletons. I owned a jailbroken iphone, which ran on T-mobile’s network, and attempted to see what all the hype was about, but I found that iOS isn’t for me. I have been with T-mobile since 2004 and could not be happier with my carrier.
      Maybe you should be more discreet with the whole 420 ending. People might get the impression that you could be a loser stoner who has nothing better to do with his life than to post hate filled comments on an amazing blog.

    • scijunkie

      I happen to “b” a homosexual and I purchased the G1 on its release day and currently am using a G2. I have been following the development of the android operating platform since it was in its infancy, before Verizon’s Droid line of phones, which have only helped expand Android’s recognizability to the simpletons. I owned a jailbroken iphone, which ran on T-mobile’s network, and attempted to see what all the hype was about, but I found that iOS isn’t for me. I have been with T-mobile since 2004 and could not be happier with my carrier.
      Maybe you should be more discreet with the whole 420 ending. People might get the impression that you could be a loser stoner who has nothing better to do with his life than to post hate filled comments on an amazing blog.

  • craig

    How many times can you print “4G” in one ad? That’s the real question.

    • Jsbenavidez00

      alot for stupid consumers.. all people see is 4g and want more its called marketing….good i idea tmo keep it going

  • Sndengmike

    One of the most important fact i see that has failed to be mentioned is that AT&T wouldn’t be around today if it wasn’t for the iphone they were just about bankrupt till iphone came out and part of the reason iphone was exclusive to AT&T (well untill people jailborke them :) )…

  • Sndengmike

    One of the most important fact i see that has failed to be mentioned is that AT&T wouldn’t be around today if it wasn’t for the iphone they were just about bankrupt till iphone came out and part of the reason iphone was exclusive to AT&T (well untill people jailborke them :) )…

  • Sndengmike

    One of the most important fact i see that has failed to be mentioned is that AT&T wouldn’t be around today if it wasn’t for the iphone they were just about bankrupt till iphone came out and part of the reason iphone was exclusive to AT&T (well untill people jailborke them :) )…

  • Frankduran

    I think is a BIG SHAME!!! that the Goliath iPhone!! is good only for two companies in the USA in Europe, South America and other places the iphone can be use with any communications carrier all you need is an unlocked iphone so i wander do the who is …..Boss here………. iphone or Verizon or maybe AT&T???

    • Kirbi182

      Apple controls on what carrier its iPhone shall be on, the same way in europe they have it in selected carriers but in honesty in europe alot of the carriers have the band frequency that requeres the full features of the iphone to be unlockedmeaning it can recieve 3g data thats why there is point in unlocking the giant apple and running whatever sim chip you want… you can get an Iphone4 unlocked here in the U.S. and use it on the tmo network but from what i read you wont get tmo 3g network you’ll be stuck on edge which in my mind is pointless but hey if your all about “hey I got an iPhone, loot at me” than by all means do it, I’ll stick to my vibrant that I can enjoy all my features of the carriers network.

  • Sh

    T-Mobile lacks the Premium Phones and always 2years late to get great phones such as the Upcoming Atrix.

  • Mid

    Yeah I have to say the ad comes off sounding like an ex trying to bad talk their ex significant other for dumping them because they werent “good enough for them anyway”. Its factual and yet skewed in tmo’s favor.
    I personally hate when companies tout one side of an argument rather then actually show a fair comparison and let the consumer decide. I understand it helps business to “bend” the truth, but I still never like it. Same way Comcrap tries to say they’re better then Verizon Fios, they’re not, but they sure make it SOUND like they are.

    Overall, Tmobile is a company that does have a lot to offer, but instead of pushing something like this, trying to make them look better then AT&T or Verizon, they should just concentrate on their lineup and push consumer awareness of the new products available or coming soon, WITHOUT the mud slinging. It does make them kinda look desperate.

  • Mid

    Yeah I have to say the ad comes off sounding like an ex trying to bad talk their ex significant other for dumping them because they werent “good enough for them anyway”. Its factual and yet skewed in tmo’s favor.
    I personally hate when companies tout one side of an argument rather then actually show a fair comparison and let the consumer decide. I understand it helps business to “bend” the truth, but I still never like it. Same way Comcrap tries to say they’re better then Verizon Fios, they’re not, but they sure make it SOUND like they are.

    Overall, Tmobile is a company that does have a lot to offer, but instead of pushing something like this, trying to make them look better then AT&T or Verizon, they should just concentrate on their lineup and push consumer awareness of the new products available or coming soon, WITHOUT the mud slinging. It does make them kinda look desperate.