Motorola Cliq XT To Remain On Android 1.5, Cue Angry Mobs

Wow, is this going to upset so many people and apparently this bit of news has been shuffling around for a few days, it’s the first I’m hearing of it. I suggest you just read the statement below, especially the last part about being frustrated and keeping the comments clean!

I hope Cliq XT fans are done right by Motorola or T-Mobile for this one, it’s a total disappointment that right after the Samsung Vibrant debacle comes word of the Cliq XT not being supported. I’m going to assign blame here to Motorola and say that T-Mobile should consider taking steps to allow those customers on the Cliq XT to upgrade early and purchase a phone that’s actually current with devices currently coming down the pipeline.

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  • Scooby214

    I figure the Vibrant I got during the online upgrade glitch helps to offset the frustration over the Cliq XT not getting an official upgrade.

  • http://twitter.com/iGNetworks iGNetworks

    That is an outright lie. There are other devices that have less specs that have 2.1 today. Give them 2.2 its supposed to outperform 2.1 anyways.

    • Anonymous

      No, its not a lie. I know someone doing testing and there have been lots of problems.

      • Jonstonson

        I stand corrected.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          I will concur that there are devices in testing with 2.1 now, I don’t know why the update is being held up, but they absolutely are testing it.

      • geo

        yeah i’ve also heard that there were many bugs that could never get fixed on the testings… which sucks, but hopefully t-mo will allow cliq-xt users to upgrade to a new phone. truth is that most cliq xt users aren’t even aware there was an update in the making…

      • http://twitter.com/iGNetworks iGNetworks

        Then they have poor programmers.

        • Anonymous

          I just think they pay their programmers poorly.

    • Jonstonson

      You’re probably right that they’re lying.. However, just because “other devices have less specs and have 2.1″ other devices are not all Motorola phones, or have Moto-Blur. Different ball park if I’m not mistaken.

      • Anonymous

        And remember, they released the 2.1 upgrade for the original Cliq and took tons of flak because a percentage of users had serious trouble with it. They said in their statement that they weren’t going to release it unless it was perfect, and it’s not perfect.

      • Anonymous

        And remember, they released the 2.1 upgrade for the original Cliq and took tons of flak because a percentage of users had serious trouble with it. They said in their statement that they weren’t going to release it unless it was perfect, and it’s not perfect.

  • swehes

    Motorola should release their full source code for Cliq XT to the development community and that will appease a small group of people. But this will really hit the fan I think though. Hasn’t Motorola had issues upgrading some other of their hardware as well? And not to mentioned their whole boot loader issue as well.

  • http://twitter.com/iGNetworks iGNetworks

    That is an outright lie. There are some devices on 2.1 already. 2.2 has optimization that makes it better performing than 2.1. So just give them 2.2.

  • http://twitter.com/LTEstyles LTEstyles

    wow, i’m really sorry for you cliq xt owners. It really sucks, it’s things like this that hurt big companies like motorola. good luck to you guys on choosing a new phone to keep up with the rest of us.

  • http://www.dastardlyreport.com ryaninc

    So this marks the second device (the first being the Devour on Verizon) that Motorola has decided to abandon on 1.5. That’s really low and nasty of them. I think everyone realizes that legacy hardware can’t be supported for ever, but the Devour and XT were both released just last March, making them less than a year old. That’s completely unacceptable and I feel truly sorry for the Devour and XT owners out there.

    • ivan

      Released less than a year . That just shows how fast technology advances

    • J-Hop2o6

      Those phones sucked anyway.. all Moto had to do was quit adding Blur on those slow phones, then they would of ran Vanilla 2.2 just fine.

  • SaggyBalls

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Problems like this will continue to happen when you have the Android ecosystem. I’m not knocking it, I love Android, but with so many companies using this OS, this was bound to happen. Fragmentation sucks.

    • BigMixxx

      so, what exactly are you saying? This is not a fragmentation issue. T mobile got the shitty end of the motorola stick. if the XT is not getting updated, but products that Verizon is currently carrying is, someone made a bad decision as it relates to phone technology, not fragmentation. Windows suffers the same woes, yet it is largest install base of any open os. Linux, again, suffers the same.

      Motorola, Samsung are just producing devices to get their namesakes out. Carrier signup ‘carry these shitty phones and we will give you one good one’…I won’t buy one of their brands ever again as it relates to smartphones and tablet devices.

    • BigMixxx

      so, what exactly are you saying? This is not a fragmentation issue. T mobile got the shitty end of the motorola stick. if the XT is not getting updated, but products that Verizon is currently carrying is, someone made a bad decision as it relates to phone technology, not fragmentation. Windows suffers the same woes, yet it is largest install base of any open os. Linux, again, suffers the same.

      Motorola, Samsung are just producing devices to get their namesakes out. Carrier signup ‘carry these shitty phones and we will give you one good one’…I won’t buy one of their brands ever again as it relates to smartphones and tablet devices.

      • Anonymous

        I see where you’re coming from, but also remember that these Verizon phones that get timely updates outsold the CliqXT exponentially.

      • Anonymous

        I see where you’re coming from, but also remember that these Verizon phones that get timely updates outsold the CliqXT exponentially.

      • Anonymous

        I see where you’re coming from, but also remember that these Verizon phones that get timely updates outsold the CliqXT exponentially.

    • BigMixxx

      so, what exactly are you saying? This is not a fragmentation issue. T mobile got the shitty end of the motorola stick. if the XT is not getting updated, but products that Verizon is currently carrying is, someone made a bad decision as it relates to phone technology, not fragmentation. Windows suffers the same woes, yet it is largest install base of any open os. Linux, again, suffers the same.

      Motorola, Samsung are just producing devices to get their namesakes out. Carrier signup ‘carry these shitty phones and we will give you one good one’…I won’t buy one of their brands ever again as it relates to smartphones and tablet devices.

    • BigMixxx

      so, what exactly are you saying? This is not a fragmentation issue. T mobile got the shitty end of the motorola stick. if the XT is not getting updated, but products that Verizon is currently carrying is, someone made a bad decision as it relates to phone technology, not fragmentation. Windows suffers the same woes, yet it is largest install base of any open os. Linux, again, suffers the same.

      Motorola, Samsung are just producing devices to get their namesakes out. Carrier signup ‘carry these shitty phones and we will give you one good one’…I won’t buy one of their brands ever again as it relates to smartphones and tablet devices.

  • http://pharaohtechblog.blogspot.com/ Conan Kudo (???????)

    The CLIQ XT is a variant of the CLIQ. It doesn’t make sense that they couldn’t get Android 2.1 to work on the CLIQ XT… The specifications are nearly identical….

    • jh

      I had the Cliq with 2.1. Believe me, it ran terribly on that update. It was slow and would freeze and reboot constantly and would make random calls. The Cliq XT is being saved from that BS.

    • jh

      I had the Cliq with 2.1. Believe me, it ran terribly on that update. It was slow and would freeze and reboot constantly and would make random calls. The Cliq XT is being saved from that BS.

    • jh

      I had the Cliq with 2.1. Believe me, it ran terribly on that update. It was slow and would freeze and reboot constantly and would make random calls. The Cliq XT is being saved from that BS.

  • http://twitter.com/josemedina1983 Jose Medina

    LOL and I got my mom the cliq xt for 50 bucks the phone really sucks only if it was rooted and running stock would of been helpful but the damn thing dies in 12hrs with minimum use thats just insane!. Motorola needs to give people the motorola cliq xt a refund or trade it for a original cliq. My mom doesn’t know about updates but shes aware of the horrible bugs and battery power atleast fix those to make the phone alittle better. If they cant figure this simple thing out how are they going to release the atrix and have full support?

    • AdrianG2

      There is a rom on m3 called BBM2. Its the smoothest nicest 2.1 rom out for it. I rooted my old XT and gave it to my mother to use. It also has good battery life.

      • http://twitter.com/mikedfunk Mike Funk

        I did the same… I really don’t understand Motorola’s problem because this ROM is even faster than 1.5 was. I complained for a long time and only did this recently when I got tired of waiting. I wish I would have done it earlier. Now I have Kindle, Goggles, voice navigation in maps, skype, launcher pro, wireless tether, cestos 2, doubletwist and a bunch of other stuff.

        • SARS

          Can someone please tell me how to do this? My husband and I both got XTs with a family plan deal thing and they are junk. We don’t have the money to pay early term fees so we can go back to Verizon or buy new phones from Tmo at the outrageous retail prices. I’d love to just have a phone that freaking works and if getting ROMs on them will help then I would love to know how to do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jewishdave David Rosen

    i’m still waiting for them to announce that us T-Mobile G2 users are never going to get gingerbread. i hate to be negative but i really really doubt we’ll ever get it without rooting.

  • Jack

    Well, for Motorola to take this step is a big blow to the Cliq XT owners. And just as RYANINC said, legacy devices being upgraded is somewhat a hard ball game to figure out.
    Now, it seems that the only technology a person asks..”is this upgradeable?” is the cell phone. (of course the pc, but that is more directed at your own knowledge and capabilities), but the cell phone completely relies on the manufacturer and the carrier. Now, I do love Android, since Oct 23rd, 2008, thats all I have ever used, but when purchasing a device, I logically think about the decision. I investigate myself. 1. I always go with stock android, Vanilla if I can. 2. who is manufacturing this? I knew the Vibrant would look awesome, but I knew Samsung would fail on the time factor on that one. and 3. Do I plan on upgrading my device before the two years upgrade we are so use too.
    A new model will always come out, whether it be phone, car, pc, tv, or hell, even microwave. The question is, how motivated are you to wait for that new model, or purchase now, and upgrade later.
    The main thing is, yes, look and investigate and try to “guess” as to whether something will be updated, but to be on the safe side, purchase with the knowledge or feeling that whatever device you are getting, will not be updated, and there will be something new and better on the horizon.

    Example: There will be the G-Slate, and that looks amazing, and three months down the line, there will be something newer and better, if only in one way, it still will be better.
    Plus, trust me, some cool things are coming to Tmo. ;)

    Note: Vibrant update..its out there now, we all know it, or us on here do, customers are still oblivious at times. But Samsung brought the update to Tmobile 3 times before it was approved on Tmos part. The reasoning why Tmo has a say in part, because who do you think takes those calls for the issues? Not Samsung. Not even if it has nothing to do with the network, Tmo takes it. So when a update is released, it is desired to have the least amount of issues.
    and…plus…it had to be done before the release of the Vibrant 4G.

    • Anonymous

      I am starting to lose faith in TMo. Being a customer for 8 years, living walking distance to their corporate offices and having friends who work for them, I have kept the faith that TMo would come around with great devices and a stronger network. However, it seems TMo’s focus is narrowing to “value” smartphones and they are getting away from legacy devices. TMo has the worst track record of updating devices and seems hell bent on pushing thier MyTouch line, which is perceived as just neutered Android for kids.
      As for the G Slate tablet. 3D? Are you kidding? Talk about missing the mark. People don’t want to wear glasses with their TVS, let alone on a tablet and they especially aren’t going to shoot 3D video with it.

    • Anonymous

      I am starting to lose faith in TMo. Being a customer for 8 years, living walking distance to their corporate offices and having friends who work for them, I have kept the faith that TMo would come around with great devices and a stronger network. However, it seems TMo’s focus is narrowing to “value” smartphones and they are getting away from legacy devices. TMo has the worst track record of updating devices and seems hell bent on pushing thier MyTouch line, which is perceived as just neutered Android for kids.
      As for the G Slate tablet. 3D? Are you kidding? Talk about missing the mark. People don’t want to wear glasses with their TVS, let alone on a tablet and they especially aren’t going to shoot 3D video with it.

    • Anonymous

      I am starting to lose faith in TMo. Being a customer for 8 years, living walking distance to their corporate offices and having friends who work for them, I have kept the faith that TMo would come around with great devices and a stronger network. However, it seems TMo’s focus is narrowing to “value” smartphones and they are getting away from legacy devices. TMo has the worst track record of updating devices and seems hell bent on pushing thier MyTouch line, which is perceived as just neutered Android for kids.
      As for the G Slate tablet. 3D? Are you kidding? Talk about missing the mark. People don’t want to wear glasses with their TVS, let alone on a tablet and they especially aren’t going to shoot 3D video with it.

  • Hi

    People still use this phone? haha jk I’m sorry to all you Clix XT users, you should have never went with that stupid Blur thing.

  • jake

    eh my XT is my back up phone now, got the charm off ebay for christmas and its awesome for my emulators, but yes disappointing still.

  • jake

    eh my XT is my back up phone now, got the charm off ebay for christmas and its awesome for my emulators, but yes disappointing still.

  • Anonymous

    Motorola is well-known notorious for system update except Droid family. However, xda may give a beam of hope even moto has locked bootloader.

  • Anonymous

    Motorola is well-known notorious for system update except Droid family. However, xda may give a beam of hope even moto has locked bootloader.

  • http://twitter.com/ben_tolmachoff Ben Tolmachoff

    Things like this is why I’m leaving Android (and T-Mobile) for the iPhone 5 on Verizon this summer. At least I’ll get iOS6, just not new hardware. Oh, and I’ll service.

    • Spand

      I would put money on it that there will not be an iphone 5, and if, I say if, it may just be a refresh of the 4.

      • M.

        iPhone 5 will go to AT&T, then come out on Verizon around Christmas. Verizon would not put out the iPhone 4 in February to sell iPhone 5 in June. AT&T gets exclusive rights, then Verizon will receive 6 months later.

    • Spand

      I would put money on it that there will not be an iphone 5, and if, I say if, it may just be a refresh of the 4.

    • DavidOhio

      you do realize that the Verizon iphone will only be 3g, and a slow 3g at that. Yeah, good times! No speed, no flash 10, oh and yeah, you can’t get a call while you are on the internet.

      • Randyr

        Thats why he said Iphone 5. not Iphone 4. please read the comments davidOhio…. Cavs suck! LBJ4Life!!

    • Hi

      There won’t be an iPhone 5 it will be iPhone 4GS

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Now people, take heed to this warning. You see that they didn’t support the cliq or the cliq xt. If you’re planning on buying the Cliq 2, make sure you want to buy the phone AS IS.

    • Khughes

      The Cliq upgrade for 2.1 was released about 2 months ago…

  • Anonymous

    Case & point why I choose the G2 and not any Motorola smart phones. I was seriously looking at the Cliq2, but I realized that it probably won’t get updated until next year, if it ever gets an update.

  • Anonymous

    Case & point why I choose the G2 and not any Motorola smart phones. I was seriously looking at the Cliq2, but I realized that it probably won’t get updated until next year, if it ever gets an update.

  • yyevo

    You all need to understand that it’s in every handset maker’s best interest for you to NOT upgrade. That way you buy more phones, more often. Moto never intended to upgrade the CLIQ or CLIQ XT.

    They just want you to buy another phone. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about Motorola, HTC or Apple, they just want you to buy more.

  • yyevo

    You all need to understand that it’s in every handset maker’s best interest for you to NOT upgrade. That way you buy more phones, more often. Moto never intended to upgrade the CLIQ or CLIQ XT.

    They just want you to buy another phone. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about Motorola, HTC or Apple, they just want you to buy more.

  • yyevo

    You all need to understand that it’s in every handset maker’s best interest for you to NOT upgrade. That way you buy more phones, more often. Moto never intended to upgrade the CLIQ or CLIQ XT.

    They just want you to buy another phone. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about Motorola, HTC or Apple, they just want you to buy more.

    • frigadroid

      You forgot our Korean friends over at Scamscum and LG. Same goes for Google they want you to buy the nexus.

  • yyevo

    You all need to understand that it’s in every handset maker’s best interest for you to NOT upgrade. That way you buy more phones, more often. Moto never intended to upgrade the CLIQ or CLIQ XT.

    They just want you to buy another phone. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about Motorola, HTC or Apple, they just want you to buy more.

  • peter fitzenwell

    I just bought two moto cliq and a blackberry for 100 and just updated the two cliqs to 2.1 …..manual update ….. :) …not too shabby

  • http://twitter.com/7Android7 CHILD OF MY KING

    LAWSUIT! They lied man.

  • http://twitter.com/7Android7 CHILD OF MY KING

    LAWSUIT! They lied man.

  • Kent108

    Oh for god’s sake, people. Quit whining, this is an easy fix.

    Download the one-click-root app, root your Cliq XT, and install a Cyanogen mod (up to FroYo for half a year, now.) It’s a 20-minute affair and it’s embarrassingly easy.

    • SaggyBalls

      Quit acting like an ignorant douchebag. The majority of people have no concept of doing this type of stuff. More importantly, why should they have to?

      • Turdnugget0420

        Go on xda and research man…there are countless threads on how to do in 20 minutes what you will spend your entire time with the phone bitching that you don’t have.

    • Ssarthur

      There isn’t a Cyanogen mod for this phone. Motorola has effectively scared away anyone willing to create one by saying they were working on it. Hopefully there will be an independent developer mod forthcoming now that Motorola has stopped acting like they’re going to provide one.

      My next phone is going to be one with a stock Android build. Motoblur is a joke.

  • Bob

    That rules out a Samsung or Motorola phone then. People shouldn’t have to jump through hoops like rooting, most wouldn’t have a clue what to do.

    • ivan

      But don’t you Think that the only ones that even know aBout updates or Android software are the ones that know about rooting? And the ones who do not know about Android probably don’t even care about this news?

      • frigadroid

        Not at all. Most people hear positive things first about android so they want to experience it. After they buy in to android and start to learn more about fragmentation and other problems they feel like its not yet all that.

      • frigadroid

        Not at all. Most people hear positive things first about android so they want to experience it. After they buy in to android and start to learn more about fragmentation and other problems they feel like its not yet all that.

  • karlc

    its like i always say; when you buy for phone, buy it because you like it for what it is at the time you bought it! period! i didnt buy a Vibrant because Froyo was coming (or a promise), thats dumb. i bought it because i like the SAMOLED, its ease of use, size and weight of it in my hand.
    expectations are a bitch people…in life and the mobile world! enjoy what you’ve got! you all wanted a moto cliq xt, i assume you all picked it up and played with it etc…….and made your choice. besides once you get used to your phone. it makes things easier and faster to navigate it.
    after all, if you still have a cliq….your not in the “game” anyways!!!! HA!

    • http://www.facebook.com/briandouglashayes Brian Douglas Hayes

      Outside of the Nexus S, we’re pretty much stuck with a two-year contract to obtain almost any smartphone out there. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for consumers to expect updates during those two years.

    • http://www.facebook.com/briandouglashayes Brian Douglas Hayes

      Outside of the Nexus S, we’re pretty much stuck with a two-year contract to obtain almost any smartphone out there. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for consumers to expect updates during those two years.

      • Anonymous

        it’s unreasonable to expect something for free, and get mad when you don’t get it. You do always have the option of selling your current phone to get an updated one.

      • karlc

        ahhh… but what you are calling free updates, is in fact a new OS that the manufacture use as selling points. that is why people should be happy with the merchandise they purchase, at the moment they buy it. with phones coming out as fast as they are nowadays…. the manger is probably telling you truth; the jump from 1.5 to…..2.1 or 2.2 probably was too difficult and not worth it, both to you and them! too many variations to re-configure and probably not all features ran as smooth as they would with todays current processors and such.

      • karlc

        ahhh… but what you are calling free updates, is in fact a new OS that the manufacture use as selling points. that is why people should be happy with the merchandise they purchase, at the moment they buy it. with phones coming out as fast as they are nowadays…. the manger is probably telling you truth; the jump from 1.5 to…..2.1 or 2.2 probably was too difficult and not worth it, both to you and them! too many variations to re-configure and probably not all features ran as smooth as they would with todays current processors and such.

  • ivan

    I am actually glad the cliq xt was not updated. I have seen many mytouch first generation after receiving update and the update is too much for the phone to handle. If the phone does not have hardware don’t do it. It’s like throwing a hemi RT on a Toyota yari. It’s too much of a beast..

    • Anonymous

      but…Vtech…it just kicked in yo

  • Carter Helm

    In real life, people don’t actually notice the differences between different versions of Android.

    • Anonymous

      I am driving down the street. I am lost, I have no navigation in my car so I use my phone. AHH SNAP, only directions no navigation. So I constantly look down at my phone for the next turn in small font instead of the nice big words, arrows and voice of the Nav. I crash head on with another driver because I couldn’t use text-to-speech for inputting a new address. The other driver gets ejected and stops breathing. I MUST PERFORM CPR. but I dun remember how, let me google it. A website pulls up with an embedded flash CPR tutorial, AHH SNAP, no embedded flash support, I can’t see it. The other driver dies from lack of CPR before paramedics get there, I get locked up for involuntary vehicular manslaughter.
      My name is Sam and I am currently serving 10 years in Chino Correctional Facility, the above is my story. Thanks Moto, I think of you every time I am forced to play “games” with my cellmate Tyrone.
      Good time!

      • Magenta Magic

        Well there IS that disclaimer about not using the navigation software while driving. Had this been a true story, I would have felt no sympathy because YOU MADE A CHOICE to 1) purchase the device, and 2) use the device in a hazardous fashion.

        However, I do give you props for a creative tale!

      • Magenta Magic

        Well there IS that disclaimer about not using the navigation software while driving. Had this been a true story, I would have felt no sympathy because YOU MADE A CHOICE to 1) purchase the device, and 2) use the device in a hazardous fashion.

        However, I do give you props for a creative tale!

    • Taharial

      They do notice when they see their friends playing with an app or game and think, “wow, I want that” and then realize that their phone is not running a version that will support it. They notice then.

  • MIKEEEEE

    i have a defy. i love it with 2.1. i don’t expect anything more.

    my next toy is going to be a tablet.

    then my smartphone days will be over and i’ll ba happy as a clam with a DEFY for pocket work and a tablet for heavy lifting.

    why would anyone want a phone to do a laptop’s work?

    just someone come out with a ruggedized tablet.

    BTW; when all you kids get driver’s licenses and cars you’ll understand.

  • MIKEEEEE

    i have a defy. i love it with 2.1. i don’t expect anything more.

    my next toy is going to be a tablet.

    then my smartphone days will be over and i’ll ba happy as a clam with a DEFY for pocket work and a tablet for heavy lifting.

    why would anyone want a phone to do a laptop’s work?

    just someone come out with a ruggedized tablet.

    BTW; when all you kids get driver’s licenses and cars you’ll understand.

  • Nexus Eddie

    Tmo tried to make me upgrade to the Cliq 2 and I’m like hell no and went to Best Buy and got me my Nexus S contract free. I sold my Nexus One for $350 on eBay and paid the difference. I plan to do the same when the next Nexus phone comes out. Having a Nexus phone is like having the G1 all over again (but better).

  • Nexus Eddie

    Tmo tried to make me upgrade to the Cliq 2 and I’m like hell no and went to Best Buy and got me my Nexus S contract free. I sold my Nexus One for $350 on eBay and paid the difference. I plan to do the same when the next Nexus phone comes out. Having a Nexus phone is like having the G1 all over again (but better).

  • Nexus Eddie

    Tmo tried to make me upgrade to the Cliq 2 and I’m like hell no and went to Best Buy and got me my Nexus S contract free. I sold my Nexus One for $350 on eBay and paid the difference. I plan to do the same when the next Nexus phone comes out. Having a Nexus phone is like having the G1 all over again (but better).

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree with Ivan. I too have seen several original Mytouch’s with the update, and it just doesn’t work well. It’s kind of a double-edged sword for Moto…if they release the update and makes it worse, people get angry. If they decide to not release it for that same reason, to prevent irate customers…they still get irate customers.

    I was an owner of the Cliq XT, and am glad I got rid of it. I did my own research before buying the phone, and did not buy it on promises of software updates. I bought it for what it came with NOW (which is something more people should do). I sold it when the Mytouch Slide came out, because that phone fitted my needs, and I’ve been using it ever since it came out. I bought the slide with 2.1, and while I’m not happy that the 2.2 update hasn’t come, I’m not too upset, because I bought the phone AS-IS. It’s a shame Motorola is destroying their own name. The last few releases have been dissapointing. The cliq, the Cliq XT, the Cliq 2, the charm…the only phone they’ve released recently for T-Mobile that was worth spending some money on was the Defy…and that’s saying something.

    BTW, No company is great with updates…including HTC. Some praise HTC for “quick” updates, while companies like Motorola and Samsung are scrutinized for taking too long. While Motorola has failed on all ends for T-Mobile, Samsung didn’t take very long either. Vibrant came out on July 15th, and official updates started January 20th. HTC has failed too on the T-mobile side…the Mytouch slide still hasn’t gotten an update nor even a release date…and it came out a month before the Vibrant. The original Mytouch came out in July of 09, and didn’t start getting updated until october of 2010…Just saying. No company is perfect, these updates are FREE, and they don’t HAVE to push them out…

  • Turdnugget0420

    I hope all manufacturers will just disclaimer that they in no way will promise updates on any Android device so that all you will stop bitching about updates.

  • M.

    so does that mean the Moto XOOM will have a bootloader?

  • Pb35

    The thing that upsets me the most about this is that it is getting harder and harder to find any apps that will run on 1.5 so we are basically left with an expensive paper weight. I know i am not the only XT user that has had problems trying to install apps on their phone…just look at the comments on tmobiles XT forum about installation errors popping up recently. Its not because of TMobiles network being out, it’s because nobody supports 1.5 anymore. I even contacted MOG the other day about problems i was having with their app on the XT and even though i am a paid subscriber to MOG they said they no longer support the 1.5 OS. I wish TMobile would at least give us XT users under contract a break on a phone that uses an android operating system that is still supported.

  • Pb35

    The thing that upsets me the most about this is that it is getting harder and harder to find any apps that will run on 1.5 so we are basically left with an expensive paper weight. I know i am not the only XT user that has had problems trying to install apps on their phone…just look at the comments on tmobiles XT forum about installation errors popping up recently. Its not because of TMobiles network being out, it’s because nobody supports 1.5 anymore. I even contacted MOG the other day about problems i was having with their app on the XT and even though i am a paid subscriber to MOG they said they no longer support the 1.5 OS. I wish TMobile would at least give us XT users under contract a break on a phone that uses an android operating system that is still supported.

  • oldblue

    I moved from a CLIQ XT to a G2 back in September. Quite honestly, this is just proof that you get what you pay for. The CLIQ XT is a bargain basement phone running bargain basement hardware, even for March 2010 when it came out. If having a phone that can be upgraded to future Android versions is important to you, then obviously a) you’re a “power user” (I hate that term but it applies here) and b) you probably shouldn’t be buying phones whose hardware is already behind the curve at launch. Just sayin’. The G2 will end up getting Gingerbread eventually. The G1 had what? 3 upgrades (1.1, 1.5 and 1.6)? That’s because at the time, the hardware was smokin’ and it had some staying power. Not the case with the CLIQ XT. I feel bad for all the people who still have the CLIQ XT, but I have to agree with everyone else here. If you’re going to buy a budget phone like that, you need to be happy with what it does out of the box, and not love it for future potential.

  • oldblue

    I moved from a CLIQ XT to a G2 back in September. Quite honestly, this is just proof that you get what you pay for. The CLIQ XT is a bargain basement phone running bargain basement hardware, even for March 2010 when it came out. If having a phone that can be upgraded to future Android versions is important to you, then obviously a) you’re a “power user” (I hate that term but it applies here) and b) you probably shouldn’t be buying phones whose hardware is already behind the curve at launch. Just sayin’. The G2 will end up getting Gingerbread eventually. The G1 had what? 3 upgrades (1.1, 1.5 and 1.6)? That’s because at the time, the hardware was smokin’ and it had some staying power. Not the case with the CLIQ XT. I feel bad for all the people who still have the CLIQ XT, but I have to agree with everyone else here. If you’re going to buy a budget phone like that, you need to be happy with what it does out of the box, and not love it for future potential.

  • oldblue

    I moved from a CLIQ XT to a G2 back in September. Quite honestly, this is just proof that you get what you pay for. The CLIQ XT is a bargain basement phone running bargain basement hardware, even for March 2010 when it came out. If having a phone that can be upgraded to future Android versions is important to you, then obviously a) you’re a “power user” (I hate that term but it applies here) and b) you probably shouldn’t be buying phones whose hardware is already behind the curve at launch. Just sayin’. The G2 will end up getting Gingerbread eventually. The G1 had what? 3 upgrades (1.1, 1.5 and 1.6)? That’s because at the time, the hardware was smokin’ and it had some staying power. Not the case with the CLIQ XT. I feel bad for all the people who still have the CLIQ XT, but I have to agree with everyone else here. If you’re going to buy a budget phone like that, you need to be happy with what it does out of the box, and not love it for future potential.

  • Jawash22

    I don’t think most cliq owners care. If you wanted a high end phone you wouldn’t have bought the fugly cliq….Also,IMHO, it’s like buying a Ford Mustang V6 and getting mad it doesn’t have the same power or features of a GT. If you want a great smartphone..buy one and don’t cheap out

    • craig

      Ah, i see. So upgrading to a new OS is a feature that only high-end phones employ? Could you back this up with some statistics showing me?

      • timmyjoe42

        Well the high end phones have better hardware to run the newer software.

      • timmyjoe42

        Well the high end phones have better hardware to run the newer software.

  • Anonymous

    They could have at least shoehorned Android 1.6 on it or at LEAST offered stock 2.1.. no doubt it could run on the CLIQ XT without all of the bloat

    • Rockbox1590

      We know this to be true thanks to the developer community.

    • Rockbox1590

      We know this to be true thanks to the developer community.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IWKYZE22LHQPCHPZTJIV4VLKM4 Frank

    Ok, 1) maybe if they would drop that ridiculous motoblur crap then 2.1 might function decently and 2) if you and your developers are incapable of delivering this release, then when not let the open source community have a stab at it by providing them with the work completed thus far (in addition to removing any roadblocks that might exist to completing the entire task).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZ32VTTM27DZ536QVW54DYFABY Timothy B

      Blur runs just fine on the Cliq 2, but that phone has twice the RAM and twice the processor speed.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZ32VTTM27DZ536QVW54DYFABY Timothy B

      Blur runs just fine on the Cliq 2, but that phone has twice the RAM and twice the processor speed.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZ32VTTM27DZ536QVW54DYFABY Timothy B

      Blur runs just fine on the Cliq 2, but that phone has twice the RAM and twice the processor speed.

  • Cmh0223

    I work for T-Mobile and saw this update being tested. Be glad that 2.1 wasn’t released. It was so slow it was almost unusable. I would say that with it being that unstable, 1.5 is the best it’s going to get for the CLIQ XT.

    • http://twitter.com/mastermind278 Michael

      I happen to disagree that the builds that the community developers released ran pretty well on the CliqXT.

    • http://twitter.com/mastermind278 Michael

      I happen to disagree that the builds that the community developers released ran pretty well on the CliqXT.

    • http://twitter.com/mastermind278 Michael

      I happen to disagree that the builds that the community developers released ran pretty well on the CliqXT.

    • http://twitter.com/mastermind278 Michael

      I happen to disagree that the builds that the community developers released ran pretty well on the CliqXT.

      • Jaythe01

        I would say thats entirely true. If Moto released the 1.6 update for the phone it would be helpful but most of the ROM you find are just modded versions of 1.5 and 1.6 that are made to run smoother and better *sans bloatware* to give your phone a more newer feel. 2.0+ just is crap on the XT… Moto will not give or scrap away BLUR to appease a few

        • Shink

          What I don’t get is why the dev community is able to get Eclair running well on this device but the company that MADE the phone and has all the updated drivers has such an issue. This whole “we spent months trying to get it running well and just couldn’t” smells pretty fishy in that light.

  • http://twitter.com/mrjlwilliams J. Williams

    This is in no way to target anyone, now let me say it.

    I don’t feel that anyone is due anything. There is nothing in your contract that says you will be given updates by the carrier, or are owed an update. So take what you have, and go with it. Want something better, buy it. The Cliq XT is not the fastest phone on the market, and was a choice made when it was purchased. I think consumers should just get over it, and move on. Motorola is not going to do anything about it, nor is T-Mobile. So let it go…OR spend a little bit more, to get something a TON better. The cheap way, is not always the way. Quality first…price last.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4KRCOQPRS3FNRWHRCHSI5G4EME Vinny Amador

      The other side of this argument though, is that Motorola had on their website for a considerable length of time a chart with projected update releases. Their forums people related progress on those updates and that set up the expectation of an actual working update. People’s expectations regarding updates and these devices have changed radically in this android age. People expect their devices to be able to run apps available and those updates provide that. Manufacturers that are able to adapt to that and meet customer expectations with flourish. One’s that are unable to deliver on that will fail. That is how the market works. I agree with It’sNotMichael above, that manufacturers should never make promises of any kind regarding updates and releases because they set themselves up for this recrimination. In Moto’s case here, it is well earned and well deserved, they continually set projected release dates that they were unable to meet, continued a dialogue that they were going to provide them, and then in the most stupendously stupid PR move ever, sent emails to XT owners a week ago with UPDATE in the title and it was not an OS update it was an offer to buy another moto phone. Some of us have also noticed that if there is a red V on the moto phone, it tends to get quick reliable updates.