Will The Sidekick 4G Disappoint?

Let me preface this by saying I don’t want this to be about whether or not Android is good or bad, old or new or anything in between.  The question I wish to pose (among others) is whether or not Android is the right fit for the upcoming Sidekick 4G.  Along with that, will customers come back to the Sidekick brand when the last thing they remember about Sidekick is an overwhelming story regarding data loss?

The “Sidekick” line is, dare I say, an iconic brand in the wireless world.  It broke ground on any number of factors, most notably form factor.  While the Sidekick line didn’t start the spring loaded slide up screen, it certainly did its part to popularize it.  The Sidekick line was one of the only cellphone models to have personalized sponsors with the likes of Tony Hawk and Dwayne Wade.  This is a name that conjures up images of Paris Hilton walking down the red carpet and athletes pounding away on the Sidekick keyboard in anything from commercials to People magazine images.  There is a lot for T-Mobile to live up to with the release of the Sidekick 4G and I hope it doesn’t disappoint.

So let’s come right to the meat of this.  Why would it disappoint?  Well, I believe that Android, however you slice it, is a step in the opposite direction of its predecessor Sidekicks.  Part of the allure was the specialized OS that was unique to the Sidekick brand and made for a unique user experience.  This was part of the reason Sidekicks were so popular, because using them was a unique experience in almost every way.  While I will be the first to admit I don’t know anything about the form factor or the possible variations of Android we could see running on this device, it’s still Android and Android is everywhere. There is nothing really unique about Android at this point.  You can skin it, hack it and personalize it, but at the end of the day it’s still Android.  That’s not a bad thing; it’s just not a unique thing.  The same could be said if the Sidekick ran iOS, webOS or Windows Phone 7.  It still wouldn’t be unique.

The Sidekick will likely sell because it’s a name people remember and some will purchase simply because they have fond memories of the previous models.  On the flipside, the Sidekick brand took what some might have considered to be a death blow during the October 2009 data loss.  This led to T-Mobile halting sales and the eventual class action lawsuit which was only recently settled.  The Sidekick line took a serious hit in the public realm and even some of the most stringent Sidekick supporters moved on to other platforms.

As I look at the above image of the Sidekick 4G (which could EASILY be a placeholder and not at all what the actual device looks like) I see a typical looking slider.  A gain, I wonder and I  write this without all the facts given that almost no information on the phone is known.  However, I wonder how T-Mobile will differentiate this device?  Relying on the Sidekick name alone would have been great and almost marketed itself, but the last memory of many Sidekick users or  possible future users was a data loss that made national headlines.

So while any conclusion about the possibility of Sidekick 4G sales is premature, I still have reservations and tempered hopes about how successful it will truly be.  I hope, no, I wish for a revival in the Sidekick line because it was just so iconic for what it is, even if the form factor wasn’t your cup of tea.  A successful launch could be a huge win for T-Mobile and the Sidekick line overall, but anything else could lead to the final resting place for the Sidekick brand.  I hope I can speak for many Magenta faithful when I say we just don’t want it coming to that.

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  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I mean… I love Android, but did anybody not know that you can put your own overlay OS/UI overlay Android? Motorola & MotoBlur, Samsung & TouchWiz, HTC & HTC Sense. I think they will just mesh the 2 OS’s. I’m pretty sure they’re gonna do something Unique. Because we have Slider Android (Motorola Cliq 2, whether you like it or not). Don’t count them out too soon. I don’t think it could be anything, but good. I mean Sidekick had the design, the swivel, the limited editions, keyboard, but Android has the apps & versatility right now.

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      *over. Typo. I saw it the 1st time, I forgot I already had overlay in the sentence, lol

    • Mark

      The issue there is that you have to hire a programming team to build your custom UI. Who is going to do that? TMo doesn’t have the staff or expertise, and I doubt they’re willing to pay whoever the phone manufacturer is for a custom UI. If the mfgr. does it on their own, then it’s theirs and not exclusive to Tmo.

      • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

        How do you know? Just wait & see….

  • Jonathan

    If that IS indeed the new Sidekick 4G in that image and not a place holder image, I can already tell it’s going to be a bomb. :-(

  • Fudgey F.

    Sadly the age of the sidekick is dead. The OS was so epic because there was nothing like it, but with Android (among others) you have a new level of OS sophistication that was not available at the time. Will it translate to a new Sidekick device, I dont think so. It would be like carrying a brick phone running Android or a RAZR, it would just be out of style. I loved the Sidekick, and it is because of those phones that I still like to have a keyboard on my phone (got the G1 then G2). Its because of that phone I had web when others didnt. Sadly times have changed, the time of the sidekick is over.

  • Fudgey F.

    Sadly the age of the sidekick is dead. The OS was so epic because there was nothing like it, but with Android (among others) you have a new level of OS sophistication that was not available at the time. Will it translate to a new Sidekick device, I dont think so. It would be like carrying a brick phone running Android or a RAZR, it would just be out of style. I loved the Sidekick, and it is because of those phones that I still like to have a keyboard on my phone (got the G1 then G2). Its because of that phone I had web when others didnt. Sadly times have changed, the time of the sidekick is over.

  • Derail Doax

    I think it would be awesome if they pulled it off. I agree with previous posts that what they would need to do is contract the hardware out to HTC(high quality manufacturer). Keep the exact same design as the previous Sidekicks(but HTC quality build) but skin Android to look like the Sidekick. The beauty of Android is the ability to skin without horrible slow down, IF DONE CORRECTLY. The Garminfone is skinned and isn’t as horribly slow as Motoblur, and that’s on a MSM6227 600 mhz proc. Throw a good skin on a dual core, out 1ghz Snapdragon and it will work fine.

    I don’t know why but I’m very nostalgic. I’ve had a G1, Cliq XT, Mytouch 3G, Vibrant and now a Mytouch 4G. Now I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion I’m going to stick with Tmos Mytouch line. I love their phones. I think one of the keys to true Android success is brand names. Droid is popular and very recognisable, also the Mytouch line has been thoroughly advertised. Name recognition is the key to marketing success. Re use that Sidekick name till no one buys them anymore. Tmo did it with the G1/G2, and Mytouch. Moto is doing it with the Cliq. Verizon is doing it with the Droid series. Sprints doing it with the Evo series. Another brand name blunder was the stopping of the Instinct line. After the Instinct HD(M850) came the Moment(M900) which was going to be called the Instinct Q, the Intercept(M910) and the Transform(M920). The Instinct name was so HEAVILY advertised that they should have stuck with it. But stupidly they didn’t, now they have a full line of forgetable handsets that no one will remember the names of two years from now. Brand recognition is so key to success.

  • Derail Doax

    I think it would be awesome if they pulled it off. I agree with previous posts that what they would need to do is contract the hardware out to HTC(high quality manufacturer). Keep the exact same design as the previous Sidekicks(but HTC quality build) but skin Android to look like the Sidekick. The beauty of Android is the ability to skin without horrible slow down, IF DONE CORRECTLY. The Garminfone is skinned and isn’t as horribly slow as Motoblur, and that’s on a MSM6227 600 mhz proc. Throw a good skin on a dual core, out 1ghz Snapdragon and it will work fine.

    I don’t know why but I’m very nostalgic. I’ve had a G1, Cliq XT, Mytouch 3G, Vibrant and now a Mytouch 4G. Now I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion I’m going to stick with Tmos Mytouch line. I love their phones. I think one of the keys to true Android success is brand names. Droid is popular and very recognisable, also the Mytouch line has been thoroughly advertised. Name recognition is the key to marketing success. Re use that Sidekick name till no one buys them anymore. Tmo did it with the G1/G2, and Mytouch. Moto is doing it with the Cliq. Verizon is doing it with the Droid series. Sprints doing it with the Evo series. Another brand name blunder was the stopping of the Instinct line. After the Instinct HD(M850) came the Moment(M900) which was going to be called the Instinct Q, the Intercept(M910) and the Transform(M920). The Instinct name was so HEAVILY advertised that they should have stuck with it. But stupidly they didn’t, now they have a full line of forgetable handsets that no one will remember the names of two years from now. Brand recognition is so key to success.

  • Derail Doax

    I think it would be awesome if they pulled it off. I agree with previous posts that what they would need to do is contract the hardware out to HTC(high quality manufacturer). Keep the exact same design as the previous Sidekicks(but HTC quality build) but skin Android to look like the Sidekick. The beauty of Android is the ability to skin without horrible slow down, IF DONE CORRECTLY. The Garminfone is skinned and isn’t as horribly slow as Motoblur, and that’s on a MSM6227 600 mhz proc. Throw a good skin on a dual core, out 1ghz Snapdragon and it will work fine.

    I don’t know why but I’m very nostalgic. I’ve had a G1, Cliq XT, Mytouch 3G, Vibrant and now a Mytouch 4G. Now I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion I’m going to stick with Tmos Mytouch line. I love their phones. I think one of the keys to true Android success is brand names. Droid is popular and very recognisable, also the Mytouch line has been thoroughly advertised. Name recognition is the key to marketing success. Re use that Sidekick name till no one buys them anymore. Tmo did it with the G1/G2, and Mytouch. Moto is doing it with the Cliq. Verizon is doing it with the Droid series. Sprints doing it with the Evo series. Another brand name blunder was the stopping of the Instinct line. After the Instinct HD(M850) came the Moment(M900) which was going to be called the Instinct Q, the Intercept(M910) and the Transform(M920). The Instinct name was so HEAVILY advertised that they should have stuck with it. But stupidly they didn’t, now they have a full line of forgetable handsets that no one will remember the names of two years from now. Brand recognition is so key to success.

  • Anonymous

    I think T-Mobile can make the SideKick stand out again by having a social media-oriented skin, a la MotoBlur, but they would have to really go “all in” and make it have really remarkable social networking features. I’m thinking of something like the Kin Studio’s cloud backup services, but much better-executed and better marketed.

    But even then, is that really the best idea? Is T-Mo willing to support TWO different carrier-customized skins with the Sidekick AND the MyTouch line? They already have a handful trying to keep the MyTouch line updated with Android (*cough* Mytouch 3G Slide *cough*), I don’t know if they’re going to want to invest more resources to properly support a second skinned line.

  • Anonymous

    I think T-Mobile can make the SideKick stand out again by having a social media-oriented skin, a la MotoBlur, but they would have to really go “all in” and make it have really remarkable social networking features. I’m thinking of something like the Kin Studio’s cloud backup services, but much better-executed and better marketed.

    But even then, is that really the best idea? Is T-Mo willing to support TWO different carrier-customized skins with the Sidekick AND the MyTouch line? They already have a handful trying to keep the MyTouch line updated with Android (*cough* Mytouch 3G Slide *cough*), I don’t know if they’re going to want to invest more resources to properly support a second skinned line.

  • TyRetr0

    I lOve the sidekick line I had a 2008 it was great I don’t think android is a great fit for the sidekick but I’ll deffinately try it out. I wanted to gett an LX 2009 just to have but can’t find one

  • TimHitchings

    The age of Sidekick is over. It’s unfortunate that TMO has rights to the name because anything they release will NOT be a sidekick. It may be hardware that may be close the the sharp sidekicks produced in the past but a sidekick was more than just a flipout screen and a keyboard. It was the combination of hardware that included a trackball and software that included early inoviations like multi tasking and an app store.
    The Sidekicks time has come and gone.
    The form factor can’t compete with the newer lighter android models.
    Let it rest in peace and don’t embariss the brand name.

    Speaking as someone who owned most of the Sidekicks including the orginal black and white model up to the LX.
    Now very happy with a TMO MyTouch 4G

  • TimHitchings

    The age of Sidekick is over. It’s unfortunate that TMO has rights to the name because anything they release will NOT be a sidekick. It may be hardware that may be close the the sharp sidekicks produced in the past but a sidekick was more than just a flipout screen and a keyboard. It was the combination of hardware that included a trackball and software that included early inoviations like multi tasking and an app store.
    The Sidekicks time has come and gone.
    The form factor can’t compete with the newer lighter android models.
    Let it rest in peace and don’t embariss the brand name.

    Speaking as someone who owned most of the Sidekicks including the orginal black and white model up to the LX.
    Now very happy with a TMO MyTouch 4G

  • Omeer

    David if you’re proposing that the sidekick line should retain its former OS, any variation of it or a whole different OS of its own then my answer is a big fat NO! Android IMO is the most feature packed mobile OS out there right now. Android is growing by leaps and bounds for a reason because people love it. I agree that having an Android OS wouldn’t set it apart from the pact much since almost every other phone seems to be Android based these days. However, Android is only adding to and is a big plus for the sidekick. It’s not taking anything away from it. Every carrier has flagship Android devices with high end hardware specs and that’s what T-Mobile needs to do with the sidekick. The sidekick name is big but it’s not big enough to overshadow the Android OS. A unique OS could spell disaster for the sidekick a la Kin one and two. In people’s perspective the sidekick=Good and Android=Good so two goods can only make the final product even better. Furthermore after experiencing everything that Android has to offer I’d consider the sidekick crippled if it has any other OS. Bring the sidekick with the latest and greatest in hardware/software, android based, kick ass aesthetics and support and it’ll surpass expectations.

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      !!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      !!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      !!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

    • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

      !!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

    • Skull with Cigarette

      Once again, I have to point: With your argument, Sidekick is a fail either way.
      If it attempts to use it’s own OS and unique UI, then its a fail cause it can’t compete w/ Android cause is the best (not a fanboy statement about Android, just trying to ‘sum it up’).
      However, if they do use Android, then there’s nothing to distinguish it and one might as well purchase any of the already existing Android handsets that litter the playground as it is and sales will be mediocre.

  • Omeer

    David if you’re proposing that the sidekick line should retain its former OS, any variation of it or a whole different OS of its own then my answer is a big fat NO! Android IMO is the most feature packed mobile OS out there right now. Android is growing by leaps and bounds for a reason because people love it. I agree that having an Android OS wouldn’t set it apart from the pact much since almost every other phone seems to be Android based these days. However, Android is only adding to and is a big plus for the sidekick. It’s not taking anything away from it. Every carrier has flagship Android devices with high end hardware specs and that’s what T-Mobile needs to do with the sidekick. The sidekick name is big but it’s not big enough to overshadow the Android OS. A unique OS could spell disaster for the sidekick a la Kin one and two. In people’s perspective the sidekick=Good and Android=Good so two goods can only make the final product even better. Furthermore after experiencing everything that Android has to offer I’d consider the sidekick crippled if it has any other OS. Bring the sidekick with the latest and greatest in hardware/software, android based, kick ass aesthetics and support and it’ll surpass expectations.

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I want a FFC (I know it’s over-rated), but at least it’ll make it a bit unique in the Smartphone 4G phone’s w/ a QWERTY keyboard because none of them (G2, Motorola Cliq 2 ,HSPA 7.2 MyTouch Slide) has one. Sure there’s Tango, but still. I just wanna have the feature :D. Off subject, but I hope they make a MyTouch Slide 4G. I mean I love the feature set of the MyTouch 4G, but the Slide is more so my speed, hence: Keyboard. So, now if the Sidekick 4G can give me all that, happy customer :D. I hope they also have it where you can customize it somehow (externally). I would say shells, but that makes it cheap-ish quailty right. Give me something though, kinda like how the Sidekick 08 was, & how the MyTouch Line is today. Customization & personalization is key! Especially in the Sidekick line

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I want a FFC (I know it’s over-rated), but at least it’ll make it a bit unique in the Smartphone 4G phone’s w/ a QWERTY keyboard because none of them (G2, Motorola Cliq 2 ,HSPA 7.2 MyTouch Slide) has one. Sure there’s Tango, but still. I just wanna have the feature :D. Off subject, but I hope they make a MyTouch Slide 4G. I mean I love the feature set of the MyTouch 4G, but the Slide is more so my speed, hence: Keyboard. So, now if the Sidekick 4G can give me all that, happy customer :D. I hope they also have it where you can customize it somehow (externally). I would say shells, but that makes it cheap-ish quailty right. Give me something though, kinda like how the Sidekick 08 was, & how the MyTouch Line is today. Customization & personalization is key! Especially in the Sidekick line

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I want a FFC (I know it’s over-rated), but at least it’ll make it a bit unique in the Smartphone 4G phone’s w/ a QWERTY keyboard because none of them (G2, Motorola Cliq 2 ,HSPA 7.2 MyTouch Slide) has one. Sure there’s Tango, but still. I just wanna have the feature :D. Off subject, but I hope they make a MyTouch Slide 4G. I mean I love the feature set of the MyTouch 4G, but the Slide is more so my speed, hence: Keyboard. So, now if the Sidekick 4G can give me all that, happy customer :D. I hope they also have it where you can customize it somehow (externally). I would say shells, but that makes it cheap-ish quailty right. Give me something though, kinda like how the Sidekick 08 was, & how the MyTouch Line is today. Customization & personalization is key! Especially in the Sidekick line

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    I want a FFC (I know it’s over-rated), but at least it’ll make it a bit unique in the Smartphone 4G phone’s w/ a QWERTY keyboard because none of them (G2, Motorola Cliq 2 ,HSPA 7.2 MyTouch Slide) has one. Sure there’s Tango, but still. I just wanna have the feature :D. Off subject, but I hope they make a MyTouch Slide 4G. I mean I love the feature set of the MyTouch 4G, but the Slide is more so my speed, hence: Keyboard. So, now if the Sidekick 4G can give me all that, happy customer :D. I hope they also have it where you can customize it somehow (externally). I would say shells, but that makes it cheap-ish quailty right. Give me something though, kinda like how the Sidekick 08 was, & how the MyTouch Line is today. Customization & personalization is key! Especially in the Sidekick line

  • Petey

    I believe back in the days when the sidekick was very popular, it was mainly focus to teenage/young adults who uses alot of the messengers program such as AIM, Yahoo, etc. It was more of a social network phone. I don’t think they will sell good because of Teenager/Young adults are more expose to smart phones &/or popular phones such as the iPhone.

    But again, that was back then, I can’t really say if the will sell good since I don’t know how the hardware would be, but if it’s similar to what they had release in the past, then I don’t think it would sell well. Just like that one moto phone that was on Verizon… the kin or something like that.

  • http://twitter.com/charlieboy808 CharlieBoy808

    I would want nothing more than to see the SideKick be alive and well again, but the fact that I and many other users got screwed by Microsoft doesn’t help me want to buy a new one. You are right in saying that the device will not be unique if it has Android. However at the same time, it still technically has a Danger technology feel to it. Lets not forgot where Andy Rubin came from, “Andrew Rubin is a technology pioneer, co-founder and former CEO of both Danger Inc. and Android.” -WikiPedia.org

    What I would want to see is Rubin take the SideKick under his wing and make us a special Android SideKick OS, but that is just wishful thinking. That’s not all the wishes I hope the Genie can grant me either. A better processor, bigger screen, more internal memory, a much better camera, external microSD functionality, etc. The list could go on and on about how the SideKick did lack in a few areas. It’s the way it worked for me is why I stuck with the SideKick from the first Color to the final 2009 LX model.

  • http://twitter.com/charlieboy808 CharlieBoy808

    I would want nothing more than to see the SideKick be alive and well again, but the fact that I and many other users got screwed by Microsoft doesn’t help me want to buy a new one. You are right in saying that the device will not be unique if it has Android. However at the same time, it still technically has a Danger technology feel to it. Lets not forgot where Andy Rubin came from, “Andrew Rubin is a technology pioneer, co-founder and former CEO of both Danger Inc. and Android.” -WikiPedia.org

    What I would want to see is Rubin take the SideKick under his wing and make us a special Android SideKick OS, but that is just wishful thinking. That’s not all the wishes I hope the Genie can grant me either. A better processor, bigger screen, more internal memory, a much better camera, external microSD functionality, etc. The list could go on and on about how the SideKick did lack in a few areas. It’s the way it worked for me is why I stuck with the SideKick from the first Color to the final 2009 LX model.

  • http://twitter.com/charlieboy808 CharlieBoy808

    I would want nothing more than to see the SideKick be alive and well again, but the fact that I and many other users got screwed by Microsoft doesn’t help me want to buy a new one. You are right in saying that the device will not be unique if it has Android. However at the same time, it still technically has a Danger technology feel to it. Lets not forgot where Andy Rubin came from, “Andrew Rubin is a technology pioneer, co-founder and former CEO of both Danger Inc. and Android.” -WikiPedia.org

    What I would want to see is Rubin take the SideKick under his wing and make us a special Android SideKick OS, but that is just wishful thinking. That’s not all the wishes I hope the Genie can grant me either. A better processor, bigger screen, more internal memory, a much better camera, external microSD functionality, etc. The list could go on and on about how the SideKick did lack in a few areas. It’s the way it worked for me is why I stuck with the SideKick from the first Color to the final 2009 LX model.

  • Derrickps3

    i’m gonna have to wait and play with demo version 1st before judging ;)

  • Derrickps3

    i’m gonna have to wait and play with demo version 1st before judging ;)

  • imasellout

    Sidekick 3 was my all time favorite phone… if they made a android powered sidekick 3.. i would buy it at launch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=684265587 Invadr Phlegm

    Wow. Lots of takes on this one. And with good reason, the Sidekick was unique and I have a lot of fond memories associated with the first three devices in the line.

    The way I see it, there are three ways that Tmo could go:

    1 – Android. It’s an ugly fit for Sidekick, but this could simply be a case of Tmo cashing in on their last, reputable product branding. I could see where they could skin Android to look and perform more like the traditional Sidekick desktop, but even so, at it’s heart it is still Android, and there is nothing special about that.

    2 – They could go Symbian 3. Inside the US, it is a unique enough OS that the Sidekick brand will seem unique, even though those of us in the know, will know exactly what it is. But who knows, the device may surprise us, and surpass most of our (not mine) low expectations of Symbian.

    3 – They could continue to work with Microsoft (who owns Danger, designers/makers of the hiptop format, and all their IP). This gives the Sidekick 4G the rotating flip top back, and the entire hiptop formfactor back – all pluses if you ask me. But then it would also means that Sidekick 4G would be the benefactor of some form of Microsoft mobile OS – not Windows Phone 7, not Windows Mobile 6.5, and not even WinCE. Most likely whatever XNA/Silverlight mobile OS that powered the defunct Kin.

    Now I know some of you are reading that and probably preparing your first born for sacrifice to the phone gods to prevent that from happening. But before you play Abraham with your kids, consider this – the Kin was actually good. It was not a bad product. It ran on Nvidia’s Tegra chipset, could perform a lot of functions most people have come to expect from more expensive smartphones, was pretty spunky in performance, had a great UI . . . my point is, there were a lot of things to like about Kin. The format only died off, because of internal politics behind the scenes, not because it was a bad product. And so here is what I am saying. Take the OS that powered the Kin, shove it into a revamped version of classic Sidekick formfactor complete with swivel screen, add a relatively powerful 1GHz ARM SoC, add in your WiFi and 4G, add a capacitive touch screen, add in HTML5 support, add in some local storage expandable by SD, re-skin the OS to act and perform much like classic Sidekick desktop, and I honestly think that most people would be super happy with the outcome. It still is very unique – just as unique as the original Sidekick line, and has the advantage of being able to run apps and games programmed in XNA (think Xbox Indie Games) and Silverlight. So you get a balanced trade off. It is unique enough to be different, but not so different enough that you can’t get any content for it. And honestly, if Tmo goes with Android, then Sidekick is not unique at all – period. If they go with Symbian 3, it’s too unique and has access to a very limited eco-system. And because it now has local storage (on top of cloud storage), if Microsoft screws up again with the servers (which I highly doubt), it won’t negatively impact the user base like in 2009.

    This is just one of those situations where no matter which direction you go, someone is going to be unhappy. But at least in this case if you go back with the devil you know, then you wind up with a product that is extremely similar to the one you remember – namely because Microsoft owns the company and all the IP of the company responsible for Sidekick in the first place.

    Anyway, just some thoughts. As far as I know, Tmo may go it alone, create their own Sidekick OS out of a linux distro, and pray like crazy they can get 3rd party software support for it as yet another (albeit niche) competing platform in a long list of competing platforms in the industry.

    • iwantkickflip

      so if it has android it wont have a kick flip screen? :( :( :(

  • Syk0matik4201

    Man I dunno. I would try it with android. Seems to be exactly what a boring is like sidekick needs
    .

  • Syk0matik4201

    oops I meant to say a boring OS like sidekick….. my bad. But yeah android might work out on sidekick hardware

  • beastly

    If it has the ‘kick UI, integrated inbox, Android market, 5-row QWERTY, swivel screen, and decent internal specs, I will pay full retail for it and consider it money well spent.

  • Tazy254

    A sidekick could be whatever t-mobile wants it to be its their name!!!!
    But if they want to please it has to have good specs and 5 row keyboard the g2 keyboard is fukin sexy tho the swivel screen would be a step in the right direction

  • Tazy254

    A sidekick could be whatever t-mobile wants it to be its their name!!!!
    But if they want to please it has to have good specs and 5 row keyboard the g2 keyboard is fukin sexy tho the swivel screen would be a step in the right direction

  • Tazy254

    A sidekick could be whatever t-mobile wants it to be its their name!!!!
    But if they want to please it has to have good specs and 5 row keyboard the g2 keyboard is fukin sexy tho the swivel screen would be a step in the right direction

  • Tazy254

    A sidekick could be whatever t-mobile wants it to be its their name!!!!
    But if they want to please it has to have good specs and 5 row keyboard the g2 keyboard is fukin sexy tho the swivel screen would be a step in the right direction

    • Anonymous

      Actually the name belongs to Microsoft who bought it from Danger.

      • jaZzyjeff

        -___-

      • Gears2011

        Actually the name “Sidekick” belongs to T-Mobile… The operating system that it runs belongs to Danger, who was then bought by Microsoft. T-Mobile has all rights to the name, which is why different variants of the sidekick (like the sidekick slide by motorola) still maintained the sidekick name although it wasn’t made by the normal sidekick producers, “Sharp”… Microsoft has no rights to the Sidekick name, or else it most likely wouldn’t be a T-Mobile exclusive.

        • http://tmonews.com David

          It’s going to be Samsung…

  • http://twitter.com/gatodelrio limonysal

    I’m looking forward to what they will come up for the sidekick!

  • Anonymous

    Yes it will disappoint. And to be honest, I have no issues leaking this because Samsung and TMobile have irritated me to the point where I just don’t care: The Sidekick is being made by Samsung. So if you were like me and hoping for HTC goodness with updates in a timely fashion, look elsewhere.

    I don’t expect anyone to run with this, but you heard it here first. Believe it when it becomes known information.

    • beastly

      Yeah, I don’t really care. I’m not on the I-hate-Samsung-for-not-giving-me-an-update-every-three-months bandwagon. (I bought a little-known Motorola Android phone, fully expecting to not ever see a single official upgrade.) I can foresee a lot of potential disappointments in the SK4G, but being manufactured by Samsung is not one of them.

  • Esetipostid

    Hopefully its the same old sidekick ui with andriod overlay like sense on the my touch4g series and many other andriod devices.

  • Moelester518

    I think a good middle ground would be if they launched a sidekick with both stock and sidekick-esque launcher, sorta like ADW or launcher pro. It should also come with all the messaging services the previous sidekicks had. Never found another mobile AIM client that worked as well as sidekicks.

  • Moelester518

    I think a good middle ground would be if they launched a sidekick with both stock and sidekick-esque launcher, sorta like ADW or launcher pro. It should also come with all the messaging services the previous sidekicks had. Never found another mobile AIM client that worked as well as sidekicks.

  • http://graflex.org/klotz/ klotz

    I bought the 2nd sidekick sold at the launch in Palo Alto.

    I want a keyboard with 5 rows, not like the G2 with missing keys. And I don’t want Sense or MotoBlur.
    Let’s hope they don’t think up some new layer of gunk to put on top.

  • Anonymous

    If it gets android, it will never be upgraded to future versions period.. we need some custom sidekick ui with an android market thing.. hard to do.. this will be a teenphone thing

    • Dwight1130

      STOCK ANDROID gets UPDATES smarty , If It gets a custom skin of android it would get slow updates . Stock Android would be better .

  • Danny

    Wow you speak, but for only a handful of people.

    They need to put stock android on this phone and hopefully it might even see honeycomb one day. We don’t need an outdated os or anything that remotely resembles it just to be “unique”. Android is customizable enough as it is already.

    Sidekick is dead you need get over it and move on, change is all around you. How can we move forward if you’re still stuck in the past.

    Give this phone (what are already) standard smartphone features, good form factor, great keyboard and stock android and I’ll get it.

    I used to have sidekick 08 and I loved it.
    I’m tired of a soft keyboard on my nexus one. But if they can somehow combine the keyboard sidekick was known for with android and not mess it up with some lame sidekick overlay. It should do great I don’t care about trying to be “unique”. Just because you want to decorate your phone with cute different little parts doesn’t mean the rest if us do.

    • Skull with Cigarette

      The irony is stating ‘Sidekick is dead’ and ‘stuck in the past’ when Tmobile is trying to sell everyone a new iteration of a phone called ‘SIDEKICK’.
      By your argument then… its Tmo who is stuck in the past and needs to leave the Sidekick brand behind.

      But the comparisons are true. A person who buys a Nokia is looking for a wholly different experience than what a Blackberry offers. Why did you use a Sidekick in the past rather than buy a Windows Mobile 6 or Blackberry phone? Its because the Sidekick had an experience that you appreciated over the others. No one’s talking about stupid interchangable colored bumpers here… they’re talking about the UI experience.

      A new Sidekick running Android is just another Android phone. If you need a physical keyboard, might as well just get a G2. Its like the difference between a Mazda Tribute and Ford Escape… its the SAME exact car, just with some cosmetic differences.

      Thats all assumption of course, we’ll see how the new Sidekick turns out. But instead of being an alternative to Android, its just another Android option. To be fair, its the same opinion I hold of the upcoming ‘PSP Phone’: Just another Android handset. Hate to say it, I like android, but its starting to cannibalize itself.

      • Greg

        I looked at the G2, its missing a row of numbers which makes it very difficult to type non-alpha characters, or worse use control/alt key sequences. Otherwise it seems like a decent phone, if it had the separate row of numbers I’d have switched by now. This new SK looks very promising for my needs..

  • Kel

    I think what most people are failing to realize what damn near killed the sidekick, shady protection for peoples information. I worked for the company during that time and the stories I had to deal with were just plain bad! I had people whose businesses took major hits because they couldn’t reach contacts, memories of lost loved ones lost forever and the list goes on. The financial loss Tmobile suffered doesn’t even compare to the hit their reputation took in the social world.

    But I digress, Android in the 2+ years since it’s launched has provided a very stable platform of customization while keeping peoples information safely stored. I’d put my money on Google’s servers before I’d ever trust Microsoft ever again! And if you think about it, an Android device, touchscreen/keyboard with a swivel screen (because that was half the fun of having a ‘Kick) and a 5+ MP camera……that seems very tempting to me!

    But all we can do for now is play the waiting game….

  • beastly

    You know one thing I miss about the old Sidekick OS? It had a built-in memory management system for messages kind of like BlackBerrys do. One of the biggest failures of the Windows and Android phones has been the fact that the messaging memory gets clogged up. I would give up a lot of functionality on a phone just to have it be simple and self-cleaning. I remember on my old ‘Kick I could set messages to delete themselves after a number of days. I liked that feature almost as much as I liked the 5-row QWERTY.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Rioface John Ong

    I don’t get it. how will the sidekick be different from all the other Android phones out there? What exactly made the sidekick so special anyway except for the now defunct Danger os. Could this be a Kin version of Android? Who’s making the new sidekick?

  • Jay Rello

    Who knows? maybe they’ll make some kind of sidekick UI and throw it on top of android. It may work out!

  • http://twitter.com/james_bkelly James Kelly

    If the Sidekick has stock Android how will it be different from any of the current slider phones? The best thing is to trim down the design of the phone while maintaining the core aesthetic of the original phone. They could maintain the trackball and function buttons, find a way for the screen to slide both directions (might be hard to maintain the mechanics over time) and place a Danger UI over Android. If they make something Paris Hilton will carry because of sparkles and customization then it should do well. If it looks like other sliders then it’ll bomb.

  • Anonymous

    The G2 rocks for form factor – great QWERTY keyboard, speed and superior build quality. It is vanilla Android and is also 4G. It is also for adults/business quality… which I didn’t feel that the sidekick was. The G2 has all bases covered. For those who want less speed in a more colorful package, there is the 3G Slide. Where is the need for the SideKick?

    • jaZzyjeff

      “Where is the need for the SideKick?”

      Right here ;)

    • jaZzyjeff

      “Where is the need for the SideKick?”

      Right here ;)

    • jaZzyjeff

      “Where is the need for the SideKick?”

      Right here ;)

    • Greg

      I for one cannot stand these so-called QWERTY keyboards without a separate row of numbers. About 3 months ago I got a Samsung Epic (great phone, really) through work, but I couldn’t tell you where it is at.

      The SK is unique because it has a functional keyboard that is actually decent enough to type on (as in compose emails longer then 100 characters, IM, and in my case ssh to a server and actually operate a function vi session).

  • http://twitter.com/TAYLO355 Taylor Wilkerson

    the keyboard has to be the sk keyboard at least have that tmo -__-

  • Jazzyodle83

    I’m not really sure why the Sidekick line is coming back in the first place. While some of us may have fond memories of the phone and hope for a new iteration it just doesn’t seem logical. It was good for its time but over the years there have been many developments leading to much more advanced operating systems and phones are beginning to evolve into a whole different beast. The sidekick had its own niche at the time, a phone great for texting, emails, and social networking that was relatively affordable for many users. Really I don’t see the use for this phone, just another mid-range Android phone that happens to carry the SideKick name. Having Android on it does take away any feeling of uniqueness, but would you really want to have the original SideKick layout with the options we have today?

    • jaZzyjeff

      “would you really want to have the original SideKick layout with the options we have today?”

      HELL F***KIN YES

    • jaZzyjeff

      “would you really want to have the original SideKick layout with the options we have today?”

      HELL F***KIN YES

  • Arthur

    The original Sidekick was a kickass feature phone, but it wasn’t a conventional smartphone and not a direct competitor to Blackberry, iPhone, etc. Most grown ups I know aren’t going to sacrifice the smartphone functionality. If they get the UI modified right, they’ll be able to preserve the feel old time Sidekick users liked, and still have the ability to access the apps market. If they get it wrong, they’re not going to move many of these things.