Verizon, The iPhone And You – An Editorial

If you have been on the Internet at all over the past four days you probably know about the latest announcement.   Verizon held a rather exclusive press conference today to announce their partnership with Apple, allowing them to carry a CDMA version of the iPhone.   Guess what?  The sky hasn’t turned red, the earth hasn’t opened up, pigs aren’t flying and, most of all, twitter didn’t collapse, so this clearly wasn’t a sign of the apocalypse. While this wasn’t an Earth-ending event, this announcement will have a profound affect on the United States mobile phone business for the near future.

Verizon + iPhone = Love

The press has been asking for this partnership for some time, and it finally happened. Lowell McAdam, President and COO of Verizon, even said “if the press write something long enough, eventually it comes true.”   Some other circles may say that anything can happen if you throw enough money at it, but we won’t go there.  Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have the best lineup of upcoming phones.   The iPhone is just icing on the cake for their rollout of dual core and LTE Android phones.   Now people joining their network can choose which operating system they want to buy, and it will probably be the iPhone.   They will have countless numbers of people in line, upgrading, switching service providers and all around championing the Verizon iPhone.   Someone will be making money off this deal, that’s for sure.   Let’s not forget, though, that this iPhone isn’t special, save for the fact that it works on Verizon’s network.   I’m sure some people are just happy that they won’t have to deal with AT&T anymore, and I get that.  I really do.   It all comes down to one thing here.  If you have been yearning for an iPhone that isn’t bogged down by AT&T, then this is your chance.

Verizon + iPhone + Everyone Else = Bad

Verizon getting an iPhone certainly can’t be a good thing for everyone.   How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone?  I don’t even want to think about that. Android and Blackberry diehards will stay strong, supporting their operating system of choice.  Feature phone users, though, will gladly pay extra for this iPhone thing.   Let’s not even talk about the lack of success that Windows Phone 7 will encounter when it comes to Verizon.  I’m positive that iOS usage will become predominant once again after February 10th.

What about the carriers though?  Certainly AT&T will take a hit.   Users have been complaining about their network for years.   Those same people are looking to switch and will gladly pony up the cash for the early termination fee.   Sprint and T-Mobile will lose some people too.  The difference, though, is that Sprint and T-Mobile customers are looking to save money with their plans on their respective service providers.   Sure, some will leave, but their loss won’t be nearly as noticeable as the one AT&T will experience and that’s a good thing for us.

Verizon + iPhone + You (as a T-Mobile customer) = A Good Thing

I don’t know about you, but I see this move as a positive step for Apple and the mobile industry.   Clearly, the world of exclusive phones is ending and we will begin to see all carriers receive similar devices.   With Samsung’s lineup of Galaxy S phones breaking the exclusivity cycle, we will begin to see more phone manufacturers follow.   Exclusive deals only hurt the consumer, and any good businessman would know that you don’t want to make anything difficult for the consumer.   You may be different, but I’m not the kind of guy who will jump carriers just for the latest gadget (I’m looking at you, people who bought the Evo 4G just because it was a couple of months ahead of the competition).   It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.   If manufacturers would end this exclusivity process and make all of their cutting edge phones available on all carriers, then I would gladly spend some extra money on an early upgrade or buy the phone unsubsidized.   See, everyone wins if that were to happen.

Back to the iPhone though.   We now have an iPhone on a second carrier in the United States, and this is a good thing (if you like the iPhone that is).   Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries so far with great success, so why not ours (*cough* money *cough*)?  Maybe this second carrier is just the start.   Maybe some day we will see an iPhone on T-Mobile.  There certainly have been numerous reports saying that it will happen and “if the press write something long enough, eventually it comes true”.   So, like I said, this is a step in the right direction if we are ever going to see a truly unlocked iPhone sold in the United States. (Let’s just forget the whole incompatible networks right now because that can be solved in time).

Oh, and one more thing (I had to…).   With the iPhone going to Verizon we will finally be able to see what effect iPhone users have on a network.   I’m excited to see if any network, even if it is Verizon, can introduce the iPhone to its users and not suffer from dropped calls and slow network performance.  If “the nation’s most reliable network,” or so they say, can’t even support millions of iPhone users, then what hope does any other network have. Sure, Android users use a lot of data, WP7 users too, but we are talking about millions of people using an exorbitant amount of data at the same time.   That kind of usage hinders the network unless they are adequately prepared, and we will get to see if they are.

Verizon + iPhone, a Summary

Yes, Verizon has an iPhone, and we are following along and writing our opinion of it, just like every other tech site.  Some people are beyond happy to see this happen.   Other people, like AT&T execs, probably not so much.  There is a bright side though.   We could begin to see a lot more phones landing on all carriers at the same time, including the iPhone.   Not only that, but we will get to see if another network can handle the iPhone without seeing its results on our network.   All things considered, competition is a good thing.  This iPhone thing doesn’t impress or worry me, but I’ll continue to have my fingers crossed for a (logical) iPhone on T-Mobile.

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  • Tu-Sean

    We still all hate verizon, just saying. Hurts me as an unlocker and a former manager for T-Mobile in which I am still very loyal to. Just waiting on you T-Mobile to go beyond all this 4G talk and deliver a line up of devices that can actually use it.

    • Anonymous

      What’s wrong with the MyTouch 4g?

      • Anonymous

        Having a MyTouch 4g since Thanksgiving, I’ll tell you the three major things wrong with it.

        1) Battery life is not that great. That has more to do with the Android OS from what I’ve read.

        2) There is no place to enter a proxy url, assigned to a particular SSID so it can hook up with wifi networks.

        That second item is driving me nuts. My phone essentially doesn’t work at work where the wifi is behind a proxy.

        Beyond that, the MT4g is a great phone. When it gets a good HSPA+ signal, its fast as can be; the apps works wonderfully, and so on.

        If T-Mobile had the iPhone would I jump to it? Only for the ability I mentioned in item 2 above I might. Otherwise, no.

        It’s the iPad- or at least the iPad2 due out in a couple months- that’s the product from Apple I’m really itching to get.

        • Chatter

          Agree with the MT4G comments and hope this tip helps you – I had similar battery issues until I read online that my GTalk automatically signs me in everytime the phone is on. I never use GTalk so I didn’t realize it. Disabling the automatic sign in improved my battery life tremendously. I also don’t enable background data but that is a personal choice. I hope it helps.

        • Mgoggles

          What happened to the third reason? There are only two.

        • Mgoggles

          What happened to the third reason? There are only two.

      • Anonymous

        Having a MyTouch 4g since Thanksgiving, I’ll tell you the three major things wrong with it.

        1) Battery life is not that great. That has more to do with the Android OS from what I’ve read.

        2) There is no place to enter a proxy url, assigned to a particular SSID so it can hook up with wifi networks.

        That second item is driving me nuts. My phone essentially doesn’t work at work where the wifi is behind a proxy.

        Beyond that, the MT4g is a great phone. When it gets a good HSPA+ signal, its fast as can be; the apps works wonderfully, and so on.

        If T-Mobile had the iPhone would I jump to it? Only for the ability I mentioned in item 2 above I might. Otherwise, no.

        It’s the iPad- or at least the iPad2 due out in a couple months- that’s the product from Apple I’m really itching to get.

    • TRUSTED SOURCE

      Thus the reason why you’re an EX manager

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    Idc what this does. Don’t care about the iPhone, don’t care about Apple, nor do I Verzion. As long as I can stay with T-Mobile I’m all smiles. There is nothing a iPhone can do that my Android can’t do better or the same. & on top of that I get to explore the many different options of Android through various manufacturers, rather than just having to deal w/ 1 manufacture: iPhone & their average OS.

  • Storm180

    A CDMA Iphone 4? What a waste. Can’t take a phone call and use data at the same time. It even cuts off your wifi connection if you get a call. Stupid Stupid Stupid.

  • Anonymous

    I just feel sorry for AT&T, that’s all. They already suck…now they are going to suck even more! And I really don’t care for VZ anyway. Good to be T-Mobile…bigger and better things to come while we march our way to the top, WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE IPHONE!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Btw. what makes att > t-mobile

  • timmyjoe42

    The iPhone coming to Verizon will hurt AT+T the most, but it will also hurt T-Mobile.

    • Anonymous

      Nah this will not affect Magenta in any way. People join Magenta for the lower prices and if they wanted an iPhone that bad they would have left for AT&T long ago and if they wanted to pay more they would have left for Verizon long ago as well.

    • Petey

      Agree, for sure it will hurt both AT&T & T-Mobile. Some people don’t want to go to AT&T because of their services or whatever reason they have, and yet T-mobile will have some subscribers leaving for verizon because of the iphone and “reliable network/reputation” they have.

  • barcafan0000

    haters. LOL

  • yyevo

    Excellent writing Andrew.

    • http://tmonews.com David

      Amen!

  • yyevo

    Excellent writing Andrew.

  • andy14

    its ashame that apple wont come to t-mobile, instead they go to verizon first. people will continue to jailbreak and unlock their devices (which apple doesnt like) until that iphone comes to their carrier. i upgrade this summer and hopefully steve jobs will announce the iphone 5 for tmobile also. it is truly ashame to see that the iphone ended up on verizon first other than t-mobile =(

    • http://twitter.com/SuperFly_Sams Sammy Cayo

      honestly , i think it is a good thing it didnt come to tmobile first, seeing how much leverage att gives apple and how much a control freak steve jobs is, t-mobile would turn like att when they basically were gimping their android phone so it doesn’t compete with the iphone

      The Atrix 4g is really the best non iphone phone att has in god knows how long,

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with getting the iPhone on t-mobile. For one, Apple, would never think about it. The network is not strong enough. If t-mobile got the iPhone, much fewer people would want it, because, generally t-mobile’s network is lacking.

    • TRUSTED SOURCE

      FOR THE RECORD: T-MOBILE is a WORLDWIDE company and has iPhone in Europe since day 1 it came out. T-Mobile USA didn’t get the iPhone bc AT&T won the exclusivity bid. However, now that the iPhone is out of the exclusivity mafia…. and Phillip Humme is CEO of T-Mobile…. I wouldn’t be surprised if later in the year TMo got iPhone 4G w/Tmo.. however, my panties are not twisted over bc as pretty as it is… the iPhone doesn’t wash my clothes doesn’t do my laundry and certainly doesn’t make me orgasmic… SO….. whatever iPhone yeah mouthwash… no big freaking deal.

  • Mckees2006

    I am just not sold on this idea….I am sure the fanboys will jump fast, but come on most will have to pay out early termination penalties to get a “old” iphone not even 4g/lte don’t get it!

    • Anonymous

      It’s the iPhone. That’s all that matters to many people. Remember, most people don’t know or care about 4G, LTE, or advanced specs. The name (iPhone) means too much to too many people.

      • Guymandude

        thats for sure. its called ignorance. and more specifically, Glamorous Ignorance. Meaning, i will be ignorant and choose the name over something because it is Glamorous. You know how many people ask me if we carry the iPhone??? Then I introduce Android and to their shock and awe love it? cmon guys, you know that is true.

  • cirrob

    What the hell us an iPhone? Is it Like an android phone?

    • Anonymous

      Feigning ignorace, niiiice…

  • http://twitter.com/SuperFly_Sams Sammy Cayo

    oh and who ever buys this iphone is complete idiot, everyone in the world knows there will be a new one in june/july so what upgrade or leave your carier for a cdma version

    im pretty sure the next one will be 4g

    • yyevo

      That brings up an interesting question. Will they release the next gen of iPhones on AT&T and Verizon at the same time, or wait 6 – 9 months between releases?

      Do you want the iPhone 5 in July on ATT or next Feb on Verizon? Hmmm…

    • Ali

      Especially with how slow Verizon’s 3g network is. They’re asking you to drop 200 or 300 dollars on a fairly old device that is maybe the 5th best phone in their lineup, lol.

  • Chatter

    I actually think that TMo Android lovers will benefit from this move of the iPhone to Verizon. For example last year, 44% of Motorola sales in the U.S. came from VZ – no wonder they have supported the VZ phones the best. This Apple-VZ partnership will make VZ focus more on Apple and should allow TMo to enter into better relationships with manufacturers and hopefully bring even better Android offerings.

    I agree with Andrew that this move will allow us to see how the VZ network performs and how VZ handles its diversified offerings. AT&T essentially ignored Android for a long time. Personally, I hope the iPhone comes to TMo but if that happens, Android lovers should benefit as well.

  • Ervthompson

    I personally see this as another example of how T Mobile is still behind in their phone selection. The really sad part is that don’t appear to be concerned about giving its customers a bette selection of phones or superior phone service.

    How can a company that championed a new trend such as Android later fall behind in their selection of Android phones to fall behind Verizon. Does not make sense to me. What good phones does TMobile have outside of……. all their new offerings look new versions of old phones,

    They should be trying to get the Iphone or add something to their asortment to really complete because the customer service is beginning to suck and thats not a good selling point because we all expect good customer service.

    • Anonymous

      Well, if you expect the number 4 carrier to be as good as the number 1 carrier, then wow. What’s the point of the carrier rankings. Btw, t-mobile has been stepping up their game but since they are #4, it’s not as attractive as #’s 1,2, and 3. Obviously…

  • Mr Tibbs

    first to get android last to get the iphone if we ever get it an last to get a decent android phone t-mobile whats up

  • Bruce

    “How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone? I don’t even want to think about that.”

    You don’t have to think about it. You can watch it happen in front of your eyes over the next few months.

    “Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have…”

    may undoubtably? Is that like sort of pregnant?

    “It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.”

    Let’s hope so. My T-Mo contract is up in August. I think we will know in June, with the new model rollout from Apple.

    “Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries”

    You can buy an unlocked iPhone now. It will not work with 3G or 4G on T-Mobile USA. Apple must build a new radio into the iPhone for this to happen. That is a bigger job than what has been done “in a number of other countries.”

  • Bruce

    “How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone? I don’t even want to think about that.”

    You don’t have to think about it. You can watch it happen in front of your eyes over the next few months.

    “Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have…”

    may undoubtably? Is that like sort of pregnant?

    “It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.”

    Let’s hope so. My T-Mo contract is up in August. I think we will know in June, with the new model rollout from Apple.

    “Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries”

    You can buy an unlocked iPhone now. It will not work with 3G or 4G on T-Mobile USA. Apple must build a new radio into the iPhone for this to happen. That is a bigger job than what has been done “in a number of other countries.”

  • Claude474

    The Verizon iPhone is 3G which may hurt their sales.

    • Anonymous

      Nope. Besides the fact that many people call it the iPhone 4G, most people don’t care. The iPhone is very over-hyped and as usual, many people will be buying it because of its name.

  • Claude474

    The Verizon iPhone is 3G which may hurt their sales.

  • jones

    What’s going on with T-Mobile? First they keep increasing data addon fees. It used to $5, $10, $15, $20 and now $30. The newest increase came when they started advertising 4G so they ARE charging a premium for 4G. Next, their once great customer support has now changed into a sales department trying to get you to pay for more stuff. Now, Verizon gets the iPhone before them. With so many people using the iPhone on T-Mobile and putting up wih edge speeds, I’m sure even more would want one with full HSPA speeds.

    • Goukisan

      Um first of all data addon fees went up with every carrier as we changed what kind of data we were using…duh. Second, it was 30 dollars LONG before there was a 4g network. Where have you been?

    • Snorefest

      whats sad is even when they increase prices, they are still cheaper than anyone else…..

    • Snorefest

      whats sad is even when they increase prices, they are still cheaper than anyone else…..

  • jones

    What’s going on with T-Mobile? First they keep increasing data addon fees. It used to $5, $10, $15, $20 and now $30. The newest increase came when they started advertising 4G so they ARE charging a premium for 4G. Next, their once great customer support has now changed into a sales department trying to get you to pay for more stuff. Now, Verizon gets the iPhone before them. With so many people using the iPhone on T-Mobile and putting up wih edge speeds, I’m sure even more would want one with full HSPA speeds.

  • El Chiztro

    sorry tmo, knowing that verizon was getting the iphone made me realize that only 2 carriers in the us will support this handset for at least the next 3-5 years. as of this past sunday, i left you and got with at&t and her iphone, just saying, you guys dropped the ball, oh and you want to focus on sub $100 handsets? good luck with that and I’ll just leave you with a “i told you so”

    • Anonymous

      And they will smile and wave.

      • El Chiztro

        they already did lol :D

      • El Chiztro

        they already did lol :D

    • Snorefest

      trust me, no one cares. have fun with that…. hahahah. tard

    • Snorefest

      trust me, no one cares. have fun with that…. hahahah. tard

  • Mark

    The other entity that this is a blow to is Android/Google, at least from a marketing perspective. VZW made some serious hay with “What iCan’t… Droid Does;” those ads will presumably be going away, and with them a good chunk of Android’s marketing presence and subsequent mindshare.

    For everyone who complains about T-Mobile’s phone selection, my personal hunch is this: Magenta sees their prime customer as a family with 1 or 2 teenagers. In their view, the teenagers pester their parents for smartphones (hence the emphasis on custom cases for the Mytouch line, and the social networking integration in the Blur), while the parents probably just want to make calls. It would be interesting to know how many smartphones in the T-Mobile customer base are on second or third lines on a family plan where the primary is a feature phone.

  • CallawayBomber

    “Oh, and one more thing (I had to…). With the iPhone going to Verizon we will finally be able to see what effect iPhone users have on a network. I’m excited to see if any network, even if it is Verizon, can introduce the iPhone to its users and not suffer from dropped calls and slow network performance.”

    We know the answer on two levels already be it that VZW is introducing a 3G iPhone.

    1. Limited bandwidth speed available based on current EVDO revisions within VZW networks, no matter where you are. Data speed fluctuations do not vary as violently as they do on a GSM networks. I’ve seen this 1st hand with Sprint and VZW air cards as well as Sprint, TMobile, and VZW 3G phones. (Carrying two of the three phones at all times in the field with me.)

    2. Android users are pulling 15% or more data than iPhone users based on market numbers. Who’s going to notice network degradation or improvement right away? No one. Wall Streets number 8 Millions new customers based on having the iPhone is a well inflated number. I can see 3 Million 4Th Gen iPhones being sold. Having said that, with LTE/Dual Core Android phones knocking on the door, the 5Th Gen iPhone better be LTE compliant to hit those predicted numbers for VZW switchers.

    Until LTE networks on both VZW and At&t are lit up with LTE iPhones, will one be able to compare “Apples to Apples”.

  • CallawayBomber

    And if I recall correctly, 25 million iPhones were manufactured for this past year, I’m sure there will be enough to go around to all providers.

    Everyone (customers and companies) will benefit having the iPhone in their stable. It shouldn’t make a company’s persona like At&t has allowed. They depended on that too much for too long. People will think twice about “playing cards with them” since they held that ace up their sleeve.

    If this device would be offered amongst all carriers, I don’t see many people abandoning their carriers for devices anymore. It would be simply the questions
    1. “do I get the signal and speed I want for my device?”
    2. “Am I getting the best dollar value for my minutes and data usage?”

  • Mark

    Verizon here I come….This Edge service sucks time for some 3G everywhere i travel to

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

  • Mark

    Verizon here I come….This Edge service sucks time for some 3G everywhere i travel to

  • Bobblehead48

    what good is a ’4g’ network when you only have one phone that can take advantage of it?

  • Bobblehead48

    what good is a ’4g’ network when you only have one phone that can take advantage of it?

  • http://gamingblather.com/ Drak

    *YAWN*

  • http://gamingblather.com/ Drak

    *YAWN*

  • AndroidBot69

    I don’t understand why Apple wouldn’t just put it on every network, if they want money. Why only put it on 2?

  • AndroidBot69

    I don’t understand why Apple wouldn’t just put it on every network, if they want money. Why only put it on 2?

  • q2mobile

    If I were to quit T-Mobile and switch to Verizon, with the same calling/data plan, I would spend almost $500 extra a year on mobile service. I’ll stay where I am, thank you.

    • Anonymous

      My bill would be $900 more, no thank you.

    • Anonymous

      My bill would be $900 more, no thank you.

    • TMobile Failed Again

      But you pay for what you get. T Mobiles service is crap. Might as well go with Cricket.

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        Haha bull crap. My T-Mobile service isn’t crap.

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        Haha bull crap. My T-Mobile service isn’t crap.

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        Haha bull crap. My T-Mobile service isn’t crap.

  • samlod

    Thats like tmobile getting the evo4g in february. Its a good initial step but certainly not worth a 2 year commitment. This thing is a hair away from being severly outdated the second it gets releasrd. Even if you are a die hard fan, the new iphone is only 3 months away. Fortunately for verzion, the population is made up mostly of clowns, so they will cash in big! If you really think about it (if you’re not too rich and can’t afford not too) this means nothing.

  • xOneSainTx

    I can’t wait until the iPhone comes to T-Mobile and allllll these diehard Android fanboys switch to the iPhone. I had the OG iPhone on ATT, and made the switch to Android when the G1 came out. T-Mobile had cheaper plans, plus 3G in my area and ATT didn’t. I own a Nexus One and next week I plan on buy the Nexus S. However, if the iPhone 4 came to T-Mobile, I’ll probably switch.

    • TMobile Failed Again

      I know a lot of people that have a Android device only cause they don’t want to go with AT&T. If the IPhone came to T-Mobile… they’ve drop the Android for an IPhone with a quickness.
      But now that the iPhone is going to Verizon…. they’ll be leaving TMobile for sure.

      • Petey

        That’s me haha… I have the samsung vibrant just because it’s something similiar to the iphone but running android.

      • Derrickps3

        good, that way we who stay with tmo will not have to worry about the network being clogged lol

    • Snorefest

      nobody with a brain would switch from android to iphone. but according to the new polls, there are now more android users than iphone. for the first time. hence begins, the death of the iphone, plus it sucks. so that’ll help kill it off too

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Ok, you’re getting moderated because you are acting like a petulant child. So I have an iPhone, guess I don’t have a brain.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Ok, you’re getting moderated because you are acting like a petulant child. So I have an iPhone, guess I don’t have a brain.

  • xOneSainTx

    I can’t wait until the iPhone comes to T-Mobile and allllll these diehard Android fanboys switch to the iPhone. I had the OG iPhone on ATT, and made the switch to Android when the G1 came out. T-Mobile had cheaper plans, plus 3G in my area and ATT didn’t. I own a Nexus One and next week I plan on buy the Nexus S. However, if the iPhone 4 came to T-Mobile, I’ll probably switch.

  • Admjson

    WHHAATTT T-MOBILE IS F**KED

    • Snorefest

      and you are STTTTTUUUUUPPPIIIIDDDDD

  • Dwinbush2

    Celebration!!!! I been waiting for this day to happen all my life. The iPhone 4 on Verizon is going to kill competition and AT&T sales are going to drop. They will lose a lot of their customers because of the bad service they have. AT&T new 4G is going to help because it won’t be faster than T-Mobile. I loved T-Mobile but I have had too many damn problems with dropped calls, bad signals where I’m on E and G and barely on 3G. I can deal with a 3G Verizon iPhone because I’m in no hurry to get the iPhone 5 because bout time my contract is up they will be working on the iPhone 6 and I can get that for an upgrade. The iPhone 5 wont be that much different as the iPhone 4 and you will be able to download the same software as the iPhone 5. It’s been real T-Mobile but my contract is up in March and I’m gone!!!

  • TMobile Failed Again

    Thats one sexxxy phone. Dammit…. why can’t we have it. I wonder if AT&T will increase their unlimited data again? They should cause that’ll be the only thing that can save them, now that IPhone is going to Verizon.

    • SEFan

      I think AT&T will have to make some improvements. For Verizon the iPhone is an alternative to a formidable Android arsenal. AT&T was more wedded to the money coming in from iPhone users, many of whom are really pissed at them. To keep a chunk of these folks from skipping to Verizon they’ll have to sweeten the pot. ‘Course at least some of these Verizon iPhone users will be people who wouldn’t have considered at AT&T iPhone ’cause they knew the service was crap where they live. My cousin in the East Bay area wouldn’t consider at AT&T iPhone, but on Verizon???

      How well Verizon’s network can support the kind of intense data use that came to AT&T with the iPhone is another interesting question. They have had a heads-up with all the Droid traffic, so maybe they’re better prepared than AT& T was. If they DO get a horde of new iPHone users I predict they’ll have network issues as well.

      Finally, no need to panic here. Steve Jobs dislikes monopoly arrangements (other than his own), and I think Apple is headed toward a “networkless” iPhone universe, where there’s a phone version that can work on any network. T-Mo iPhone 5 anyone? I’d bite. Maybe. My only Android experience (Vibrant) did not impress, but that new LG dual-core phone looks quite impressive…

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Whatever.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Whatever.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Whatever.

    • http://ashn.myopenid.com/ Ash

      Whatever.

  • chris

    TMobiile – (minus) iPhone = Still the fastest 4G network

  • 13chris13

    @Andrew

    Just because you are fascinated with the iphone, doesn’t mean the whole country is. What makes you think this will slow Android?

    • Andrew

      You must be mistaken. I am anything but fascinated with the iPhone. I do realize, though, that the iPhone is the most prominent phone in our industry and it has had, and will continue to have, a profound effect on the mobile industry. I use, and love, Android on a daily basis and I will continue to support Google. Android’s success is due, in some part, to the lack of availability of the iPhone. Consumers aren’t looking for dual core phones, with 1 GB of RAM and a fully customizable experience though. The majority of users want ease of use, and that’s what the iPhone has embodied. Let’s not forget that the iPhone is a status symbol in our world as well, and if consumers have the choice between an iPhone and (insert flagship Android phone here) that are the same price, then I’m pretty sure consumers will pick the iPhone. Even hinting that I’m a fanboy shows your blinded view of the mobile industry. I’ll continue to use my Android phone, but I won’t be surprised to learn that iOS usage will be greater than Android usage in February.

  • Ldominguez1986

    Who doesn’t agree how many people would co e to tmobile if we got the iPhone? I don’t care about a couple of dropped calls a month or so, the price matters to me. I would think with how cheap tmobile is and with the iPhone I would think that lots and lots of people would come the magenta way.

  • Getting Angry at TMO

    Tmo’s service department is awful. Used to be able to get a live voice. Now, you call in and get a message saying “longer than normal wait times.” And the My Touch 4g is horrible. I love tmo, and don’t want to pay 40-50 more per month, but all Tmo customers are not poor idiots. Give us a top of the line phone already!

  • Swehes

    I like competition but hate Apple’s big brother attitude+the “We make great devices and you take it as we make it” attitude. People who have switched from Iphone to Android doesn’t want to go back. I have both phones. Iphone given to me by work so that I can support it in pilot programs, but even my company is looking toward Android as it is becoming more mature. The freedoms a company has with Android is much better as they are in more control than what is provided by Apple and their Iphones.

    If T-mobile can provide a phone that they keep up to date within a month of release of the new OS, then they would probably keep more of their customers. People buy phones on two year contracts and expect to be able to use their phones for that amount of time. That is T-mobiles big failure. Bringing in the Iphone will help people who travel worldwide as the phone could be used all over the world. Which is an up on Verizon in my mind. And yes. I travel and will therefor not go to Sprint or Verizon, no matter how good their phones are.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • Pffft!

      Wrong. I have left the iPhone 3 times to go to Android, and come back all three times. And that included coming to a jailbroken iPhone that’s still running on TMO’s 3G network. Fact is, Android, has gone from a hobby OS that’s not fully cooked to a fragmented POS that the hardware manufacturers and carriers (including TMO) are conspiring to bastardize into THEIR idea of what they want YOUR phone to be. Like it or not, the iPhone has been about the user experience from day one. Say what you will about Apple’s “Big Brother attitude” but they design their phone to provide a stable, reliable and uniform experience for the user. Not always cutting edge by the Android “geek” standard, but 99% of the users who buy phones don’t want to tinker. They just want their phone to work.

      • Anonymous

        Apple designs the iPhone for the casuals, who don’t know any better. Everything needs to be approved by Apple they force you to use what they want.
        99% of iPhone users don’t want to break warranty and jailbreak.
        I prefer freedom to use my phone how I want. I like options, customization and selections of different phones with better hardware. Ill go with my Android

      • Snorefest

        hahahaha. u also win moron of the year. get a clue, fanboy. apple sucks

        • http://tmonews.com David

          Guess I’m a fanboy too, insult me, please!

  • Manusferrera

    If im not mistaken US cellular the fifth largest mobile phone provider is cdma and they will probably pass up tmobile.

    • Guymandude

      Shut up. thats crap and you know it. Deutsch Telekom owns T-Mobile and has 250k employees worldwide. The only reason it takes so long for Tmo to do anything is because they have to request funds from its German mother. And that, takes time. So quit your trolling and babbling about nonsense, this is a tmobile blog and you obviously have no respect for it at all.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

        • Guymandude

          yeah i know…im sorry bout that. I just get mass defensive when people dis on TMO. Sometimes people say things without doing some research, heck, i myself included. I just wanted to make sure the facts were told. I got my information from an employee of T-Mobile in the Fincanial dept. Specifically as it relates to buildout. annnnd im not going to lie, this Verizon iPhone stuff has me in a mood. haha so im sorry for dissin people on your site.

        • BigMixxx

          It’s not that bad. iPhone has developed a big audience, Steve is flat out the best marketer in the world (remember he made hype over a mouse) The thing here is, you won’t see a lot of defectors, you will see a lot of migration. 2 years ago, remember 2 years ago, the Motorola Droid launched and those contracts are sure to die off. Again, most likely to happen, 2 year contracts done, so they will sell a lot of these to their existing customers. It’s tough for a customer to want to leave a carrier right now for a phone (This atrix is a monster not for just the phone, but the single accessory of using it as a tablet and would REALLY make one consider, only if it were not manufactured by Motorola).

          There will definitely be an impact, but not as big as one would think. Migrations will be up but defections would more than likely run the same. It’s nothing to get really rallyed up on…hell steve was not even there…

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

      • http://tmonews.com David

        Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

    • Snorefest

      lol. no you are mistaken. u.s. cellular is a joke. what do they have, 6 towers in the world? hahahaha. i wouldnt take a dump on u.s. cellular…. my sh*t is too good for them!

  • 360dj

    If i remember correctly at&t is paying apple a percentage of their data charges from their iphone data plans, and i’m pretty sure verizon is doing the same thing. I know t-mobile is not willing to pay “royalties”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matt.mingkee Matt Tsui

    AT&T will take heavy hit for sure because:
    1. VZW will offer “unlimited” (don’t know it’s whether fully unlimited or semi-unlimited) while AT&T doesn’t (except those grandfathered in).
    2. VZW has way more 3G coverage than AT&T. We all remember “there’s a map for that” and AT&T took a major hit upon its major weakness.
    3. VZW has much better network than AT&T. Notwithstanding Rev.A is much slower than AT&T, VZW network is much optimized thanks to Vodafone (the situation is much like T-Mobile in states).

    T-Mobile won’t take much hit as expected because:
    1. reliable network: I hardly remember when I got dropped call or lost internet connection, but T-Mobile must be much more aggressive when deploying 3G/4G network. This is the best way to gain customers.
    2. decent plan price: T-Mobile has unique “unlocked phone plan” (EM+) which has good potential. If Apple offers iphone with AWS support, T-Mobile will offer the benefit to these customers through these plans.

    • Anonymous

      Except that EM+ is now gone.

  • TMo is Losing

    T-Mobile is only cheap for existing customers on grandfathered plans. Otherwise, new customers will pay the same as on Verizon.

    • Anonymous

      Verizon is $30 more expensive for new customers on a two line family plan. As much as people complain about outrageous data plans, you don’t hear much about Verizon charging $20 PER LINE for unlimited text messaging.

      • Tmorizon

        Not sure what you’re talking about. I ported my service to Verizon last month and I pay $20 total for unlimited text on 4 lines.

        I still use T-Mobile for mobile broadband though. The Rocket 2.0 modem is fast.

      • Tmorizon

        Not sure what you’re talking about. I ported my service to Verizon last month and I pay $20 total for unlimited text on 4 lines.

        I still use T-Mobile for mobile broadband though. The Rocket 2.0 modem is fast.

    • Snorefest

      dunno what world you live in, but here on earth, verizon costs 4x as tmobile. im assuming you are either in grade school or special ed… either way, (pats on head) good job.

  • TMo is Losing

    T-Mobile is only cheap for existing customers on grandfathered plans. Otherwise, new customers will pay the same as on Verizon.