Verizon, The iPhone And You – An Editorial

If you have been on the Internet at all over the past four days you probably know about the latest announcement.   Verizon held a rather exclusive press conference today to announce their partnership with Apple, allowing them to carry a CDMA version of the iPhone.   Guess what?  The sky hasn’t turned red, the earth hasn’t opened up, pigs aren’t flying and, most of all, twitter didn’t collapse, so this clearly wasn’t a sign of the apocalypse. While this wasn’t an Earth-ending event, this announcement will have a profound affect on the United States mobile phone business for the near future.

Verizon + iPhone = Love

The press has been asking for this partnership for some time, and it finally happened. Lowell McAdam, President and COO of Verizon, even said “if the press write something long enough, eventually it comes true.”   Some other circles may say that anything can happen if you throw enough money at it, but we won’t go there.  Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have the best lineup of upcoming phones.   The iPhone is just icing on the cake for their rollout of dual core and LTE Android phones.   Now people joining their network can choose which operating system they want to buy, and it will probably be the iPhone.   They will have countless numbers of people in line, upgrading, switching service providers and all around championing the Verizon iPhone.   Someone will be making money off this deal, that’s for sure.   Let’s not forget, though, that this iPhone isn’t special, save for the fact that it works on Verizon’s network.   I’m sure some people are just happy that they won’t have to deal with AT&T anymore, and I get that.  I really do.   It all comes down to one thing here.  If you have been yearning for an iPhone that isn’t bogged down by AT&T, then this is your chance.

Verizon + iPhone + Everyone Else = Bad

Verizon getting an iPhone certainly can’t be a good thing for everyone.   How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone?  I don’t even want to think about that. Android and Blackberry diehards will stay strong, supporting their operating system of choice.  Feature phone users, though, will gladly pay extra for this iPhone thing.   Let’s not even talk about the lack of success that Windows Phone 7 will encounter when it comes to Verizon.  I’m positive that iOS usage will become predominant once again after February 10th.

What about the carriers though?  Certainly AT&T will take a hit.   Users have been complaining about their network for years.   Those same people are looking to switch and will gladly pony up the cash for the early termination fee.   Sprint and T-Mobile will lose some people too.  The difference, though, is that Sprint and T-Mobile customers are looking to save money with their plans on their respective service providers.   Sure, some will leave, but their loss won’t be nearly as noticeable as the one AT&T will experience and that’s a good thing for us.

Verizon + iPhone + You (as a T-Mobile customer) = A Good Thing

I don’t know about you, but I see this move as a positive step for Apple and the mobile industry.   Clearly, the world of exclusive phones is ending and we will begin to see all carriers receive similar devices.   With Samsung’s lineup of Galaxy S phones breaking the exclusivity cycle, we will begin to see more phone manufacturers follow.   Exclusive deals only hurt the consumer, and any good businessman would know that you don’t want to make anything difficult for the consumer.   You may be different, but I’m not the kind of guy who will jump carriers just for the latest gadget (I’m looking at you, people who bought the Evo 4G just because it was a couple of months ahead of the competition).   It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.   If manufacturers would end this exclusivity process and make all of their cutting edge phones available on all carriers, then I would gladly spend some extra money on an early upgrade or buy the phone unsubsidized.   See, everyone wins if that were to happen.

Back to the iPhone though.   We now have an iPhone on a second carrier in the United States, and this is a good thing (if you like the iPhone that is).   Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries so far with great success, so why not ours (*cough* money *cough*)?  Maybe this second carrier is just the start.   Maybe some day we will see an iPhone on T-Mobile.  There certainly have been numerous reports saying that it will happen and “if the press write something long enough, eventually it comes true”.   So, like I said, this is a step in the right direction if we are ever going to see a truly unlocked iPhone sold in the United States. (Let’s just forget the whole incompatible networks right now because that can be solved in time).

Oh, and one more thing (I had to…).   With the iPhone going to Verizon we will finally be able to see what effect iPhone users have on a network.   I’m excited to see if any network, even if it is Verizon, can introduce the iPhone to its users and not suffer from dropped calls and slow network performance.  If “the nation’s most reliable network,” or so they say, can’t even support millions of iPhone users, then what hope does any other network have. Sure, Android users use a lot of data, WP7 users too, but we are talking about millions of people using an exorbitant amount of data at the same time.   That kind of usage hinders the network unless they are adequately prepared, and we will get to see if they are.

Verizon + iPhone, a Summary

Yes, Verizon has an iPhone, and we are following along and writing our opinion of it, just like every other tech site.  Some people are beyond happy to see this happen.   Other people, like AT&T execs, probably not so much.  There is a bright side though.   We could begin to see a lot more phones landing on all carriers at the same time, including the iPhone.   Not only that, but we will get to see if another network can handle the iPhone without seeing its results on our network.   All things considered, competition is a good thing.  This iPhone thing doesn’t impress or worry me, but I’ll continue to have my fingers crossed for a (logical) iPhone on T-Mobile.

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  • Tu-Sean

    We still all hate verizon, just saying. Hurts me as an unlocker and a former manager for T-Mobile in which I am still very loyal to. Just waiting on you T-Mobile to go beyond all this 4G talk and deliver a line up of devices that can actually use it.

    • Anonymous

      What’s wrong with the MyTouch 4g?

      • Anonymous

        Having a MyTouch 4g since Thanksgiving, I’ll tell you the three major things wrong with it.

        1) Battery life is not that great. That has more to do with the Android OS from what I’ve read.

        2) There is no place to enter a proxy url, assigned to a particular SSID so it can hook up with wifi networks.

        That second item is driving me nuts. My phone essentially doesn’t work at work where the wifi is behind a proxy.

        Beyond that, the MT4g is a great phone. When it gets a good HSPA+ signal, its fast as can be; the apps works wonderfully, and so on.

        If T-Mobile had the iPhone would I jump to it? Only for the ability I mentioned in item 2 above I might. Otherwise, no.

        It’s the iPad- or at least the iPad2 due out in a couple months- that’s the product from Apple I’m really itching to get.

        • Chatter

          Agree with the MT4G comments and hope this tip helps you – I had similar battery issues until I read online that my GTalk automatically signs me in everytime the phone is on. I never use GTalk so I didn’t realize it. Disabling the automatic sign in improved my battery life tremendously. I also don’t enable background data but that is a personal choice. I hope it helps.

        • Mgoggles

          What happened to the third reason? There are only two.

        • Mgoggles

          What happened to the third reason? There are only two.

      • Anonymous

        Having a MyTouch 4g since Thanksgiving, I’ll tell you the three major things wrong with it.

        1) Battery life is not that great. That has more to do with the Android OS from what I’ve read.

        2) There is no place to enter a proxy url, assigned to a particular SSID so it can hook up with wifi networks.

        That second item is driving me nuts. My phone essentially doesn’t work at work where the wifi is behind a proxy.

        Beyond that, the MT4g is a great phone. When it gets a good HSPA+ signal, its fast as can be; the apps works wonderfully, and so on.

        If T-Mobile had the iPhone would I jump to it? Only for the ability I mentioned in item 2 above I might. Otherwise, no.

        It’s the iPad- or at least the iPad2 due out in a couple months- that’s the product from Apple I’m really itching to get.

    • TRUSTED SOURCE

      Thus the reason why you’re an EX manager

  • Idc what this does. Don’t care about the iPhone, don’t care about Apple, nor do I Verzion. As long as I can stay with T-Mobile I’m all smiles. There is nothing a iPhone can do that my Android can’t do better or the same. & on top of that I get to explore the many different options of Android through various manufacturers, rather than just having to deal w/ 1 manufacture: iPhone & their average OS.

  • Storm180

    A CDMA Iphone 4? What a waste. Can’t take a phone call and use data at the same time. It even cuts off your wifi connection if you get a call. Stupid Stupid Stupid.

  • Anonymous

    I just feel sorry for AT&T, that’s all. They already suck…now they are going to suck even more! And I really don’t care for VZ anyway. Good to be T-Mobile…bigger and better things to come while we march our way to the top, WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE IPHONE!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Btw. what makes att > t-mobile

  • timmyjoe42

    The iPhone coming to Verizon will hurt AT+T the most, but it will also hurt T-Mobile.

    • Anonymous

      Nah this will not affect Magenta in any way. People join Magenta for the lower prices and if they wanted an iPhone that bad they would have left for AT&T long ago and if they wanted to pay more they would have left for Verizon long ago as well.

    • Petey

      Agree, for sure it will hurt both AT&T & T-Mobile. Some people don’t want to go to AT&T because of their services or whatever reason they have, and yet T-mobile will have some subscribers leaving for verizon because of the iphone and “reliable network/reputation” they have.

  • barcafan0000

    haters. LOL

  • yyevo

    Excellent writing Andrew.

  • yyevo

    Excellent writing Andrew.

  • andy14

    its ashame that apple wont come to t-mobile, instead they go to verizon first. people will continue to jailbreak and unlock their devices (which apple doesnt like) until that iphone comes to their carrier. i upgrade this summer and hopefully steve jobs will announce the iphone 5 for tmobile also. it is truly ashame to see that the iphone ended up on verizon first other than t-mobile =(

    • honestly , i think it is a good thing it didnt come to tmobile first, seeing how much leverage att gives apple and how much a control freak steve jobs is, t-mobile would turn like att when they basically were gimping their android phone so it doesn’t compete with the iphone

      The Atrix 4g is really the best non iphone phone att has in god knows how long,

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with getting the iPhone on t-mobile. For one, Apple, would never think about it. The network is not strong enough. If t-mobile got the iPhone, much fewer people would want it, because, generally t-mobile’s network is lacking.

    • TRUSTED SOURCE

      FOR THE RECORD: T-MOBILE is a WORLDWIDE company and has iPhone in Europe since day 1 it came out. T-Mobile USA didn’t get the iPhone bc AT&T won the exclusivity bid. However, now that the iPhone is out of the exclusivity mafia…. and Phillip Humme is CEO of T-Mobile…. I wouldn’t be surprised if later in the year TMo got iPhone 4G w/Tmo.. however, my panties are not twisted over bc as pretty as it is… the iPhone doesn’t wash my clothes doesn’t do my laundry and certainly doesn’t make me orgasmic… SO….. whatever iPhone yeah mouthwash… no big freaking deal.

  • Mckees2006

    I am just not sold on this idea….I am sure the fanboys will jump fast, but come on most will have to pay out early termination penalties to get a “old” iphone not even 4g/lte don’t get it!

    • Anonymous

      It’s the iPhone. That’s all that matters to many people. Remember, most people don’t know or care about 4G, LTE, or advanced specs. The name (iPhone) means too much to too many people.

      • Guymandude

        thats for sure. its called ignorance. and more specifically, Glamorous Ignorance. Meaning, i will be ignorant and choose the name over something because it is Glamorous. You know how many people ask me if we carry the iPhone??? Then I introduce Android and to their shock and awe love it? cmon guys, you know that is true.

  • cirrob

    What the hell us an iPhone? Is it Like an android phone?

    • Anonymous

      Feigning ignorace, niiiice…

  • oh and who ever buys this iphone is complete idiot, everyone in the world knows there will be a new one in june/july so what upgrade or leave your carier for a cdma version

    im pretty sure the next one will be 4g

    • yyevo

      That brings up an interesting question. Will they release the next gen of iPhones on AT&T and Verizon at the same time, or wait 6 – 9 months between releases?

      Do you want the iPhone 5 in July on ATT or next Feb on Verizon? Hmmm…

    • Ali

      Especially with how slow Verizon’s 3g network is. They’re asking you to drop 200 or 300 dollars on a fairly old device that is maybe the 5th best phone in their lineup, lol.

  • Chatter

    I actually think that TMo Android lovers will benefit from this move of the iPhone to Verizon. For example last year, 44% of Motorola sales in the U.S. came from VZ – no wonder they have supported the VZ phones the best. This Apple-VZ partnership will make VZ focus more on Apple and should allow TMo to enter into better relationships with manufacturers and hopefully bring even better Android offerings.

    I agree with Andrew that this move will allow us to see how the VZ network performs and how VZ handles its diversified offerings. AT&T essentially ignored Android for a long time. Personally, I hope the iPhone comes to TMo but if that happens, Android lovers should benefit as well.

  • Ervthompson

    I personally see this as another example of how T Mobile is still behind in their phone selection. The really sad part is that don’t appear to be concerned about giving its customers a bette selection of phones or superior phone service.

    How can a company that championed a new trend such as Android later fall behind in their selection of Android phones to fall behind Verizon. Does not make sense to me. What good phones does TMobile have outside of……. all their new offerings look new versions of old phones,

    They should be trying to get the Iphone or add something to their asortment to really complete because the customer service is beginning to suck and thats not a good selling point because we all expect good customer service.

    • Anonymous

      Well, if you expect the number 4 carrier to be as good as the number 1 carrier, then wow. What’s the point of the carrier rankings. Btw, t-mobile has been stepping up their game but since they are #4, it’s not as attractive as #’s 1,2, and 3. Obviously…

  • Mr Tibbs

    first to get android last to get the iphone if we ever get it an last to get a decent android phone t-mobile whats up

  • Bruce

    “How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone? I don’t even want to think about that.”

    You don’t have to think about it. You can watch it happen in front of your eyes over the next few months.

    “Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have…”

    may undoubtably? Is that like sort of pregnant?

    “It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.”

    Let’s hope so. My T-Mo contract is up in August. I think we will know in June, with the new model rollout from Apple.

    “Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries”

    You can buy an unlocked iPhone now. It will not work with 3G or 4G on T-Mobile USA. Apple must build a new radio into the iPhone for this to happen. That is a bigger job than what has been done “in a number of other countries.”

  • Bruce

    “How many people will leave their current OS for a shiny new iPhone? I don’t even want to think about that.”

    You don’t have to think about it. You can watch it happen in front of your eyes over the next few months.

    “Verizon now has an iPhone and may undoubtedly have…”

    may undoubtably? Is that like sort of pregnant?

    “It’s simply not worth it to switch carriers mid contract for a device that will make its way to your carrier, probably sooner rather than later.”

    Let’s hope so. My T-Mo contract is up in August. I think we will know in June, with the new model rollout from Apple.

    “Ending the exclusive contract with AT&T is the first step to an unlocked iPhone being sold in the United States. It has been done in a number of other countries”

    You can buy an unlocked iPhone now. It will not work with 3G or 4G on T-Mobile USA. Apple must build a new radio into the iPhone for this to happen. That is a bigger job than what has been done “in a number of other countries.”

  • Claude474

    The Verizon iPhone is 3G which may hurt their sales.

    • Anonymous

      Nope. Besides the fact that many people call it the iPhone 4G, most people don’t care. The iPhone is very over-hyped and as usual, many people will be buying it because of its name.

  • Claude474

    The Verizon iPhone is 3G which may hurt their sales.

  • jones

    What’s going on with T-Mobile? First they keep increasing data addon fees. It used to $5, $10, $15, $20 and now $30. The newest increase came when they started advertising 4G so they ARE charging a premium for 4G. Next, their once great customer support has now changed into a sales department trying to get you to pay for more stuff. Now, Verizon gets the iPhone before them. With so many people using the iPhone on T-Mobile and putting up wih edge speeds, I’m sure even more would want one with full HSPA speeds.

    • Goukisan

      Um first of all data addon fees went up with every carrier as we changed what kind of data we were using…duh. Second, it was 30 dollars LONG before there was a 4g network. Where have you been?

    • Snorefest

      whats sad is even when they increase prices, they are still cheaper than anyone else…..

    • Snorefest

      whats sad is even when they increase prices, they are still cheaper than anyone else…..

  • jones

    What’s going on with T-Mobile? First they keep increasing data addon fees. It used to $5, $10, $15, $20 and now $30. The newest increase came when they started advertising 4G so they ARE charging a premium for 4G. Next, their once great customer support has now changed into a sales department trying to get you to pay for more stuff. Now, Verizon gets the iPhone before them. With so many people using the iPhone on T-Mobile and putting up wih edge speeds, I’m sure even more would want one with full HSPA speeds.

  • El Chiztro

    sorry tmo, knowing that verizon was getting the iphone made me realize that only 2 carriers in the us will support this handset for at least the next 3-5 years. as of this past sunday, i left you and got with at&t and her iphone, just saying, you guys dropped the ball, oh and you want to focus on sub $100 handsets? good luck with that and I’ll just leave you with a “i told you so”

    • Anonymous

      And they will smile and wave.

      • El Chiztro

        they already did lol :D

      • El Chiztro

        they already did lol :D

    • Snorefest

      trust me, no one cares. have fun with that…. hahahah. tard

    • Snorefest

      trust me, no one cares. have fun with that…. hahahah. tard

  • Mark

    The other entity that this is a blow to is Android/Google, at least from a marketing perspective. VZW made some serious hay with “What iCan’t… Droid Does;” those ads will presumably be going away, and with them a good chunk of Android’s marketing presence and subsequent mindshare.

    For everyone who complains about T-Mobile’s phone selection, my personal hunch is this: Magenta sees their prime customer as a family with 1 or 2 teenagers. In their view, the teenagers pester their parents for smartphones (hence the emphasis on custom cases for the Mytouch line, and the social networking integration in the Blur), while the parents probably just want to make calls. It would be interesting to know how many smartphones in the T-Mobile customer base are on second or third lines on a family plan where the primary is a feature phone.

  • CallawayBomber

    “Oh, and one more thing (I had to…). With the iPhone going to Verizon we will finally be able to see what effect iPhone users have on a network. I’m excited to see if any network, even if it is Verizon, can introduce the iPhone to its users and not suffer from dropped calls and slow network performance.”

    We know the answer on two levels already be it that VZW is introducing a 3G iPhone.

    1. Limited bandwidth speed available based on current EVDO revisions within VZW networks, no matter where you are. Data speed fluctuations do not vary as violently as they do on a GSM networks. I’ve seen this 1st hand with Sprint and VZW air cards as well as Sprint, TMobile, and VZW 3G phones. (Carrying two of the three phones at all times in the field with me.)

    2. Android users are pulling 15% or more data than iPhone users based on market numbers. Who’s going to notice network degradation or improvement right away? No one. Wall Streets number 8 Millions new customers based on having the iPhone is a well inflated number. I can see 3 Million 4Th Gen iPhones being sold. Having said that, with LTE/Dual Core Android phones knocking on the door, the 5Th Gen iPhone better be LTE compliant to hit those predicted numbers for VZW switchers.

    Until LTE networks on both VZW and At&t are lit up with LTE iPhones, will one be able to compare “Apples to Apples”.

  • CallawayBomber

    And if I recall correctly, 25 million iPhones were manufactured for this past year, I’m sure there will be enough to go around to all providers.

    Everyone (customers and companies) will benefit having the iPhone in their stable. It shouldn’t make a company’s persona like At&t has allowed. They depended on that too much for too long. People will think twice about “playing cards with them” since they held that ace up their sleeve.

    If this device would be offered amongst all carriers, I don’t see many people abandoning their carriers for devices anymore. It would be simply the questions
    1. “do I get the signal and speed I want for my device?”
    2. “Am I getting the best dollar value for my minutes and data usage?”

  • Mark

    Verizon here I come….This Edge service sucks time for some 3G everywhere i travel to

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

    • Petey

      That’s pretty much what I’m experience in the bay area, I commute to work, and half of the time I’m on edge, the other on 3g. Shouldn’t 3g deploy in all parts of the bay area already? Why am I still experiencing edge!

  • Mark

    Verizon here I come….This Edge service sucks time for some 3G everywhere i travel to

  • Bobblehead48

    what good is a ‘4g’ network when you only have one phone that can take advantage of it?

  • Bobblehead48

    what good is a ‘4g’ network when you only have one phone that can take advantage of it?

  • *YAWN*

  • *YAWN*

  • AndroidBot69

    I don’t understand why Apple wouldn’t just put it on every network, if they want money. Why only put it on 2?

  • AndroidBot69

    I don’t understand why Apple wouldn’t just put it on every network, if they want money. Why only put it on 2?

  • q2mobile

    If I were to quit T-Mobile and switch to Verizon, with the same calling/data plan, I would spend almost $500 extra a year on mobile service. I’ll stay where I am, thank you.

    • Anonymous

      My bill would be $900 more, no thank you.

    • Anonymous

      My bill would be $900 more, no thank you.

    • TMobile Failed Again

      But you pay for what you get. T Mobiles service is crap. Might as well go with Cricket.

  • samlod

    Thats like tmobile getting the evo4g in february. Its a good initial step but certainly not worth a 2 year commitment. This thing is a hair away from being severly outdated the second it gets releasrd. Even if you are a die hard fan, the new iphone is only 3 months away. Fortunately for verzion, the population is made up mostly of clowns, so they will cash in big! If you really think about it (if you’re not too rich and can’t afford not too) this means nothing.

  • xOneSainTx

    I can’t wait until the iPhone comes to T-Mobile and allllll these diehard Android fanboys switch to the iPhone. I had the OG iPhone on ATT, and made the switch to Android when the G1 came out. T-Mobile had cheaper plans, plus 3G in my area and ATT didn’t. I own a Nexus One and next week I plan on buy the Nexus S. However, if the iPhone 4 came to T-Mobile, I’ll probably switch.

    • TMobile Failed Again

      I know a lot of people that have a Android device only cause they don’t want to go with AT&T. If the IPhone came to T-Mobile… they’ve drop the Android for an IPhone with a quickness.
      But now that the iPhone is going to Verizon…. they’ll be leaving TMobile for sure.

      • Petey

        That’s me haha… I have the samsung vibrant just because it’s something similiar to the iphone but running android.

      • Derrickps3

        good, that way we who stay with tmo will not have to worry about the network being clogged lol

    • Snorefest

      nobody with a brain would switch from android to iphone. but according to the new polls, there are now more android users than iphone. for the first time. hence begins, the death of the iphone, plus it sucks. so that’ll help kill it off too

      • Ok, you’re getting moderated because you are acting like a petulant child. So I have an iPhone, guess I don’t have a brain.

      • Ok, you’re getting moderated because you are acting like a petulant child. So I have an iPhone, guess I don’t have a brain.

  • xOneSainTx

    I can’t wait until the iPhone comes to T-Mobile and allllll these diehard Android fanboys switch to the iPhone. I had the OG iPhone on ATT, and made the switch to Android when the G1 came out. T-Mobile had cheaper plans, plus 3G in my area and ATT didn’t. I own a Nexus One and next week I plan on buy the Nexus S. However, if the iPhone 4 came to T-Mobile, I’ll probably switch.

  • Admjson

    WHHAATTT T-MOBILE IS F**KED

    • Snorefest

      and you are STTTTTUUUUUPPPIIIIDDDDD

  • Dwinbush2

    Celebration!!!! I been waiting for this day to happen all my life. The iPhone 4 on Verizon is going to kill competition and AT&T sales are going to drop. They will lose a lot of their customers because of the bad service they have. AT&T new 4G is going to help because it won’t be faster than T-Mobile. I loved T-Mobile but I have had too many damn problems with dropped calls, bad signals where I’m on E and G and barely on 3G. I can deal with a 3G Verizon iPhone because I’m in no hurry to get the iPhone 5 because bout time my contract is up they will be working on the iPhone 6 and I can get that for an upgrade. The iPhone 5 wont be that much different as the iPhone 4 and you will be able to download the same software as the iPhone 5. It’s been real T-Mobile but my contract is up in March and I’m gone!!!

  • TMobile Failed Again

    Thats one sexxxy phone. Dammit…. why can’t we have it. I wonder if AT&T will increase their unlimited data again? They should cause that’ll be the only thing that can save them, now that IPhone is going to Verizon.

    • SEFan

      I think AT&T will have to make some improvements. For Verizon the iPhone is an alternative to a formidable Android arsenal. AT&T was more wedded to the money coming in from iPhone users, many of whom are really pissed at them. To keep a chunk of these folks from skipping to Verizon they’ll have to sweeten the pot. ‘Course at least some of these Verizon iPhone users will be people who wouldn’t have considered at AT&T iPhone ’cause they knew the service was crap where they live. My cousin in the East Bay area wouldn’t consider at AT&T iPhone, but on Verizon???

      How well Verizon’s network can support the kind of intense data use that came to AT&T with the iPhone is another interesting question. They have had a heads-up with all the Droid traffic, so maybe they’re better prepared than AT& T was. If they DO get a horde of new iPHone users I predict they’ll have network issues as well.

      Finally, no need to panic here. Steve Jobs dislikes monopoly arrangements (other than his own), and I think Apple is headed toward a “networkless” iPhone universe, where there’s a phone version that can work on any network. T-Mo iPhone 5 anyone? I’d bite. Maybe. My only Android experience (Vibrant) did not impress, but that new LG dual-core phone looks quite impressive…

    • Ash

      Whatever.

    • Ash

      Whatever.

    • Ash

      Whatever.

    • Ash

      Whatever.

  • chris

    TMobiile – (minus) iPhone = Still the fastest 4G network

  • 13chris13

    @Andrew

    Just because you are fascinated with the iphone, doesn’t mean the whole country is. What makes you think this will slow Android?

    • Andrew

      You must be mistaken. I am anything but fascinated with the iPhone. I do realize, though, that the iPhone is the most prominent phone in our industry and it has had, and will continue to have, a profound effect on the mobile industry. I use, and love, Android on a daily basis and I will continue to support Google. Android’s success is due, in some part, to the lack of availability of the iPhone. Consumers aren’t looking for dual core phones, with 1 GB of RAM and a fully customizable experience though. The majority of users want ease of use, and that’s what the iPhone has embodied. Let’s not forget that the iPhone is a status symbol in our world as well, and if consumers have the choice between an iPhone and (insert flagship Android phone here) that are the same price, then I’m pretty sure consumers will pick the iPhone. Even hinting that I’m a fanboy shows your blinded view of the mobile industry. I’ll continue to use my Android phone, but I won’t be surprised to learn that iOS usage will be greater than Android usage in February.

  • Ldominguez1986

    Who doesn’t agree how many people would co e to tmobile if we got the iPhone? I don’t care about a couple of dropped calls a month or so, the price matters to me. I would think with how cheap tmobile is and with the iPhone I would think that lots and lots of people would come the magenta way.

  • Getting Angry at TMO

    Tmo’s service department is awful. Used to be able to get a live voice. Now, you call in and get a message saying “longer than normal wait times.” And the My Touch 4g is horrible. I love tmo, and don’t want to pay 40-50 more per month, but all Tmo customers are not poor idiots. Give us a top of the line phone already!

  • Swehes

    I like competition but hate Apple’s big brother attitude+the “We make great devices and you take it as we make it” attitude. People who have switched from Iphone to Android doesn’t want to go back. I have both phones. Iphone given to me by work so that I can support it in pilot programs, but even my company is looking toward Android as it is becoming more mature. The freedoms a company has with Android is much better as they are in more control than what is provided by Apple and their Iphones.

    If T-mobile can provide a phone that they keep up to date within a month of release of the new OS, then they would probably keep more of their customers. People buy phones on two year contracts and expect to be able to use their phones for that amount of time. That is T-mobiles big failure. Bringing in the Iphone will help people who travel worldwide as the phone could be used all over the world. Which is an up on Verizon in my mind. And yes. I travel and will therefor not go to Sprint or Verizon, no matter how good their phones are.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • hi!

      Agree. I travel a lot as well. Spent time in 10 countries last year and that alone is why I’m on TMobile.

    • Pffft!

      Wrong. I have left the iPhone 3 times to go to Android, and come back all three times. And that included coming to a jailbroken iPhone that’s still running on TMO’s 3G network. Fact is, Android, has gone from a hobby OS that’s not fully cooked to a fragmented POS that the hardware manufacturers and carriers (including TMO) are conspiring to bastardize into THEIR idea of what they want YOUR phone to be. Like it or not, the iPhone has been about the user experience from day one. Say what you will about Apple’s “Big Brother attitude” but they design their phone to provide a stable, reliable and uniform experience for the user. Not always cutting edge by the Android “geek” standard, but 99% of the users who buy phones don’t want to tinker. They just want their phone to work.

      • Anonymous

        Apple designs the iPhone for the casuals, who don’t know any better. Everything needs to be approved by Apple they force you to use what they want.
        99% of iPhone users don’t want to break warranty and jailbreak.
        I prefer freedom to use my phone how I want. I like options, customization and selections of different phones with better hardware. Ill go with my Android

      • Snorefest

        hahahaha. u also win moron of the year. get a clue, fanboy. apple sucks

        • Guess I’m a fanboy too, insult me, please!

  • Manusferrera

    If im not mistaken US cellular the fifth largest mobile phone provider is cdma and they will probably pass up tmobile.

    • Guymandude

      Shut up. thats crap and you know it. Deutsch Telekom owns T-Mobile and has 250k employees worldwide. The only reason it takes so long for Tmo to do anything is because they have to request funds from its German mother. And that, takes time. So quit your trolling and babbling about nonsense, this is a tmobile blog and you obviously have no respect for it at all.

      • Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

      • Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

        • Guymandude

          yeah i know…im sorry bout that. I just get mass defensive when people dis on TMO. Sometimes people say things without doing some research, heck, i myself included. I just wanted to make sure the facts were told. I got my information from an employee of T-Mobile in the Fincanial dept. Specifically as it relates to buildout. annnnd im not going to lie, this Verizon iPhone stuff has me in a mood. haha so im sorry for dissin people on your site.

        • BigMixxx

          It’s not that bad. iPhone has developed a big audience, Steve is flat out the best marketer in the world (remember he made hype over a mouse) The thing here is, you won’t see a lot of defectors, you will see a lot of migration. 2 years ago, remember 2 years ago, the Motorola Droid launched and those contracts are sure to die off. Again, most likely to happen, 2 year contracts done, so they will sell a lot of these to their existing customers. It’s tough for a customer to want to leave a carrier right now for a phone (This atrix is a monster not for just the phone, but the single accessory of using it as a tablet and would REALLY make one consider, only if it were not manufactured by Motorola).

          There will definitely be an impact, but not as big as one would think. Migrations will be up but defections would more than likely run the same. It’s nothing to get really rallyed up on…hell steve was not even there…

      • Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

      • Easy there tiger, your comment was a much harsher response than required. He wasn’t ripping, T-Mobile.

    • Snorefest

      lol. no you are mistaken. u.s. cellular is a joke. what do they have, 6 towers in the world? hahahaha. i wouldnt take a dump on u.s. cellular…. my sh*t is too good for them!

  • 360dj

    If i remember correctly at&t is paying apple a percentage of their data charges from their iphone data plans, and i’m pretty sure verizon is doing the same thing. I know t-mobile is not willing to pay “royalties”.

  • AT&T will take heavy hit for sure because:
    1. VZW will offer “unlimited” (don’t know it’s whether fully unlimited or semi-unlimited) while AT&T doesn’t (except those grandfathered in).
    2. VZW has way more 3G coverage than AT&T. We all remember “there’s a map for that” and AT&T took a major hit upon its major weakness.
    3. VZW has much better network than AT&T. Notwithstanding Rev.A is much slower than AT&T, VZW network is much optimized thanks to Vodafone (the situation is much like T-Mobile in states).

    T-Mobile won’t take much hit as expected because:
    1. reliable network: I hardly remember when I got dropped call or lost internet connection, but T-Mobile must be much more aggressive when deploying 3G/4G network. This is the best way to gain customers.
    2. decent plan price: T-Mobile has unique “unlocked phone plan” (EM+) which has good potential. If Apple offers iphone with AWS support, T-Mobile will offer the benefit to these customers through these plans.

    • Anonymous

      Except that EM+ is now gone.

  • TMo is Losing

    T-Mobile is only cheap for existing customers on grandfathered plans. Otherwise, new customers will pay the same as on Verizon.

    • Anonymous

      Verizon is $30 more expensive for new customers on a two line family plan. As much as people complain about outrageous data plans, you don’t hear much about Verizon charging $20 PER LINE for unlimited text messaging.

      • Tmorizon

        Not sure what you’re talking about. I ported my service to Verizon last month and I pay $20 total for unlimited text on 4 lines.

        I still use T-Mobile for mobile broadband though. The Rocket 2.0 modem is fast.

      • Tmorizon

        Not sure what you’re talking about. I ported my service to Verizon last month and I pay $20 total for unlimited text on 4 lines.

        I still use T-Mobile for mobile broadband though. The Rocket 2.0 modem is fast.

    • Snorefest

      dunno what world you live in, but here on earth, verizon costs 4x as tmobile. im assuming you are either in grade school or special ed… either way, (pats on head) good job.

  • TMo is Losing

    T-Mobile is only cheap for existing customers on grandfathered plans. Otherwise, new customers will pay the same as on Verizon.

  • Derrickps3

    you mean to tell me verizon’s high charging for plans ass gets this phone before tmobile??????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!11111 :( this phone would be epic on the tmobile network, and ould gain alot of costumers

  • Jarroddoty

    Personally they re going to have to invest more money into its network to support this type of network change in my area after the droid phones on verizon became popular the network took a major hit and now the data network gets congested really bad in the day and calls wont go through sometimes, so if i had a att iphone i would just stay with them so i would get a better over all experience in my area. Thats just me though, i think the iphone should goto tmobile even though they dont have that big of a 3g/4g network you never know they could make a drastic change in their mobile broadband coverage

    • Anonymous

      Actually Verizon has been beefing up their network in anticipation of getting the Iphone. They have known for a while they were getting it as soon as the exclusivity contract ended with AT&T… To me it is funny as hell. Verizon just kicked Motorola out of the bed for a bite of the apple…

      • Snorefest

        well i cant blame verizon though. I would rather have an iphone than use a piece of junk motorola with crappy moto blur.

      • Snorefest

        well i cant blame verizon though. I would rather have an iphone than use a piece of junk motorola with crappy moto blur.

      • Snorefest

        well i cant blame verizon though. I would rather have an iphone than use a piece of junk motorola with crappy moto blur.

  • Anonymous

    You keep your iPhone! Just give t mobile some more high end android phones! Go android! LOL

  • Nocks

    Check their websites for yourself.

  • Reveillazn

    I believe that the Iphone will be on T-mobile soon. There were rumors not too long ago about Apple developing an AWS version for a Canadian Telecom. It will happen for those that want one, just gotta be patient. Apple obviously wants their phone available to the entire wireless market in the US. Since T-mobile is #4 its just not as big a priority for them.
    I would be happy if T-Mobile just upgraded their 3g/4g coverage for my area. Getting the high end phones is great but, somethings not right when I am using my G1, and now my G2 on EDGE still. The only way T-Mobile can stay competitive is if they expand coverage and upgrade existing coverage.

    • ruufus

      I completely agree that T Mobile needs to upgrade their coverage area to solid 3G. I too still switch between 3G and EDGE on my HD2 in the middle of Fort Lauderdale.

      • Snorefest

        i think we all can agree with you on that one.

  • ruufus

    iPhone = yawn. Next…

  • Anonymous

    Time will tell how much Verizon and iPhone mean to Android. To ATT it will mean a short term loss. But ATT has Atrix Verizon does not. If they can keep Atrix just for them, they will have a six month lead time on any other competitor. If Motorola applied for patents, that will even be a longer time before any other device has this ability. Properly leveraged, this could mean a lot of savings for corporations and a lot of money for ATT.

    Personally I totally dislike ATT and Motorola is not my first choice on smartphones for many personal reasons. But its foolish not to recognize its significance. Would I want a phone and laptop on a single device. Thats a YES.

    If ATT can keep Atrix and similar devices out of Verizon, they will keep on making profits. If Verizon gets these devices, it would only be in detriment of the iPhone. iPhone on Verizon would have little significance for ATT under these circumstances. But these are just what ifs.

    The iPhone on Verizon’s network was not significant faster than that on ATT. The difference to an Android device is clear, Androids just mop the floor with the iPhone 4G in terms of speed and functionality. Most high end Androids load pages two to five times faster than any iPhone.

    If iPhone fails to captivate and gain market share using ATT and Verizon against Android. Its fate will be that of past Apple products a lot sooner than anyone would have expected. If they do gain market share, it will probably benefit T Mobile and Sprint in terms of Android adoption. Because T Mobile and Sprint will get the best phones if Verizon does not push the Android line as much as the iPhone.

    We shall see this in the adoption rate. Currently, Verizon has around 7.5 million Android users, T Mobile and Sprint have around 4 million each, T Mobile does have more than Sprint and ATT has 1 million. Those trends kept on increasing through Nov of 2010. Dec 2010 this probably has increased by twice as much. I wonder how many of those millions of new Android users will change.. Not much.

    LTE is currently only Android, but that will probably change with the advent of iPhone 5 later on this year.

    Motorola is the one that will probably lose the most. As they partnered with Verizon and Verizon is their main source of income. No wonder they offered the Atrix to ATT, would have been smarter to share it with T Mobile or Sprint.

    Apple did one thing right, they have provided hotspot functionality with the iPhone, again following Androids lead after a year. No matter how you see the iPhone, its over one year late in technological advancements. Once users recognize this, its going to be hard for Apple to keep its customer base.

    • Snorefest

      you actually have a clue what you are talking about. thanks!

  • ruufus

    Android is fragmenting too quickly, agreed. Samsung, I believe, makes the Nexus S. HTC made the Nexus 1. Samsung is slow or non-existent on updates. Friends with Galaxy S Samsung phone still waiting on their Android update.

    Another friend, a non-techie completely, got a HD7 two weeks ago. It was his first smart phone. He has already making calendar appointments, using Zune playlists, Binging, etc. He is impressed with the ease of learning WP7 OS.

  • Woimsta2

    To all of you who say the iPhone really doesn’t matter should stop bulls…..tn. if the iPhone was on tmo almost everyone on this site would buy one. I’m a former tmo customer (I still love tmo bye the way). And Even though I have an evo I would still buy an iPhone if it were on tmo. Android fanboys including me have to acknowledge the effect the iPhone has on an company. We can pretend all day long that T-Mobile doesn’t need the iPhone but, when the managing editor. Of this very site owns and uses an iPhone(unlocked of course. David.) It shows the true effect an iphone could have for tmo subscribers. I believe this Verizon deal seals the way for a tmo version in the near future. This iPhone deal is not exclusive to just Verizon and at&t( the c.e.o of Verizon said it himself). Be patient.

    • EnviroG

      I agreed and hope to have the option to buy several iphone 5’s with T-Mo service come this June/July.

      Cheers,

      EnviroG

      • Anonymous

        No not all of us would! been there, done that, moved on…

    • Anonymous

      no sorry I want a phone, i will go with android
      not a toy for hipsters, iphone.

    • Snorefest

      if u would trade an evo for an iphone, u are a moron who should commit suicide and give me your evo before you pull the trigger. man, what a moron.

    • Snorefest

      if this were 2007, and the iphone were still cool to people who actually work in the field of software engineering, then yeah I would prob get an iphone. unfortunately, apple is still stuck in 2007 while the rest of the world is moving on to bigger and better things. within the next 2 years, we will witness the death of the iphone, it has had a good run. no denying that, but in the world of technology, you either keep up or you get left behind, apple is doing nothing to change the game. they rely solely on a piece of 4 year old technology to keep them in the mobile game. they need a new mobile device. mark my words, the death of the iphone is near if they dont do something to make it relevant to current technology.

    • Snorefest

      if this were 2007, and the iphone were still cool to people who actually work in the field of software engineering, then yeah I would prob get an iphone. unfortunately, apple is still stuck in 2007 while the rest of the world is moving on to bigger and better things. within the next 2 years, we will witness the death of the iphone, it has had a good run. no denying that, but in the world of technology, you either keep up or you get left behind, apple is doing nothing to change the game. they rely solely on a piece of 4 year old technology to keep them in the mobile game. they need a new mobile device. mark my words, the death of the iphone is near if they dont do something to make it relevant to current technology.

    • Snorefest

      if this were 2007, and the iphone were still cool to people who actually work in the field of software engineering, then yeah I would prob get an iphone. unfortunately, apple is still stuck in 2007 while the rest of the world is moving on to bigger and better things. within the next 2 years, we will witness the death of the iphone, it has had a good run. no denying that, but in the world of technology, you either keep up or you get left behind, apple is doing nothing to change the game. they rely solely on a piece of 4 year old technology to keep them in the mobile game. they need a new mobile device. mark my words, the death of the iphone is near if they dont do something to make it relevant to current technology.

    • Snorefest

      if this were 2007, and the iphone were still cool to people who actually work in the field of software engineering, then yeah I would prob get an iphone. unfortunately, apple is still stuck in 2007 while the rest of the world is moving on to bigger and better things. within the next 2 years, we will witness the death of the iphone, it has had a good run. no denying that, but in the world of technology, you either keep up or you get left behind, apple is doing nothing to change the game. they rely solely on a piece of 4 year old technology to keep them in the mobile game. they need a new mobile device. mark my words, the death of the iphone is near if they dont do something to make it relevant to current technology.

  • rubi76

    For all of us who have an Android, we know that Iphones are made for the mass but limit the user in many ways.
    Iphone on Verizon will steal customers from AT&T but it won’t effect TMO that much.

  • rubi76

    For all of us who have an Android, we know that Iphones are made for the mass but limit the user in many ways.
    Iphone on Verizon will steal customers from AT&T but it won’t effect TMO that much.

  • rubi76

    For all of us who have an Android, we know that Iphones are made for the mass but limit the user in many ways.
    Iphone on Verizon will steal customers from AT&T but it won’t effect TMO that much.

  • rubi76

    For all of us who have an Android, we know that Iphones are made for the mass but limit the user in many ways.
    Iphone on Verizon will steal customers from AT&T but it won’t effect TMO that much.

  • Nerdlust

    What is this 2008 ? Iphone4 is nice but these androids are on another level. If I ever break My crackberry addiction bb8900 I would be all over android. But options are good for business so I guess iPhone is a nice phone for new smartphone users.

    • H8stylist

      iphone isn’t special to anyone that knows anything about phones or electronic devices in general. however, when you are a conformist sheep and can’t leave the flock out of worry that you won’t be cool, you think the iphone is THE phone to have. imo anyone that buys an ipod / iphone / ipad (even mac cpu’s if you aren’t a designer of some sort) are consumers that had a labotomy given to them by marketing and does no actual research of their own.

      • Oogieboogie1

        iPhone was the first in it’s class… You never saw a smart phone with a touch screen before the iPhone and the iPhone set standards that all these companies have been trying to match since… Some phones have their own little bells and whistles but when you boil it down, nothing beats the iPhone… Of course, you will have your die hard enthusiast that will try to find reasons why their device is better than the iPhone but nothing tops it…

        I own a 1st Gen iPhone that I use as an iPod and a MyTouch for my phone with T-Mobile… I can tell you that I hate my phone… The iPhone does everything better than the MyTouch… I like the fact that I can buy Apps thru iTunes with my iPhone and it’s not part of the bill… I like the fact that if there’s an update available for the iPhone, you connect to iTunes…. You don’t have to wait for someone to decide that you deserve it now… My BF and I both have MyTouch phones and he did updates to his phone months ago which makes his phone run smoother… Meanwhile, I’m still sitting here waiting for my phone to update and having issues left and right… The only reason I haven’t had T-Mobile unlock my iPhone is that I paid a lot of money for the MyTouch and I would like to get some use out it… As the days go by though, it’s almost not worth the hassle of the MyTouch…

        IMO anyone that doesn’t look at Apple when looking for a computer/phone/iPod/iPad has had a lobotomy and they can stay with PC… Apple doesn’t need your kind at their stores anyway…

        Apple is innovative and user-friendly… But you can just wait for the Windows or Android versions of Apple products… I’m sure they will be pretty good imitations and of course, have more steps… Apple gets copied in every product they have…

        • Snorefest

          actually, my T-mobile MDA in 2005 was a touchscreen smartphone. and there were thousands others. the iphone is actually not orignal at all. nothing about it was a game changer. touch screen? seen it before. internet browsing? seen it before. video calls? seen it before. MMS? seen it before. even the operating system is the exact same thing as the ipod. wow, thats originality, allright. take the same software from one of your old devices, add calling capablities and rebrand it as revolutonary and awesome. You my friend, are an idiot. it would be wise if you never spoke publicly again.

        • Snorefest

          if steve jobs took a dump in a box and called it the ishit, it would sell 2 million units overnight. thats just how loyal their simpleminded fans are. doesnt mean they have the best software. get a clue

        • Xtreamski

          you win” biggest idiot of the year” award.

        • Oogieboogie1

          Thanks, but I think it’s your award…

        • Snorefest

          and you do realize apple pc’s are made for people who arent smart enough to efficiently operate a pc, right? the macs are made for morons who cant go a day without getting a virus on their PC. here’s a challenge for ya: try writing an app on a MAC. go ahead. try. try doing ANYTHING out of the norm on a MAC. not possible. slow processors, crappy graphics cards, cheap hardware,….. yup! Macs are awesome, alright. thats why the elementary schools around here give them away free to 5th graders- they are that amazing. worth absolutely nothing to everyone except 5th graders. LOL. i have yet to stumble across a bigger moron on the internet. you also take fanboy of the year award. take your lips off steve jobs’ nuts. man u r an idiot.

        • Oogieboogie1

          Actually I have written apps on a Mac and it’s super easy… My Mac is better than any PC out on the market and my Mac is already a year old… And I remember an article that said the best computer to run Windows was what? Oh yeah, a MAC?!?!? So you can keep your head in your a$$ and stay with PC… People that do nothing but bash Apple and their products have probably not even tried the products they are bashing… Ignorance is bliss sometimes, but you need to wake up… If you don’t know, then it’s best to keep your mouth shut…

          http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344661,00.asp

          This article is almost 2 years old and MACs have only improved since then….

        • Oogieboogie1

          Actually I have written apps on a Mac and it’s super easy… My Mac is better than any PC out on the market and my Mac is already a year old… And I remember an article that said the best computer to run Windows was what? Oh yeah, a MAC?!?!? So you can keep your head in your a$$ and stay with PC… People that do nothing but bash Apple and their products have probably not even tried the products they are bashing… Ignorance is bliss sometimes, but you need to wake up… If you don’t know, then it’s best to keep your mouth shut…

          http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344661,00.asp

          This article is almost 2 years old and MACs have only improved since then….

        • Snorefest

          and you do realize apple pc’s are made for people who arent smart enough to efficiently operate a pc, right? the macs are made for morons who cant go a day without getting a virus on their PC. here’s a challenge for ya: try writing an app on a MAC. go ahead. try. try doing ANYTHING out of the norm on a MAC. not possible. slow processors, crappy graphics cards, cheap hardware,….. yup! Macs are awesome, alright. thats why the elementary schools around here give them away free to 5th graders- they are that amazing. worth absolutely nothing to everyone except 5th graders. LOL. i have yet to stumble across a bigger moron on the internet. you also take fanboy of the year award. take your lips off steve jobs’ nuts. man u r an idiot.

      • Snorefest

        NICE! couldnt have said it better. what is the deal with Apple Zombies? I have never owned or used an Apple product, never will. they lack originality. everyone has one. and they flat out suck half the time. its great that in his own mind, steve jobs is a revolutionary genius of technology but in the real world, hes way behind even new players to the game like google. apple = snorefest.

    • Snorefest

      yes but iphone is the LAST phone I would use to help run my business. For business,. its BlackBerry. For fun, Android :)

  • Nerdlust

    What is this 2008 ? Iphone4 is nice but these androids are on another level. If I ever break My crackberry addiction bb8900 I would be all over android. But options are good for business so I guess iPhone is a nice phone for new smartphone users.

  • Petey

    I think tmobike going to get the iPhone soon but probably during the summer when they launch they next version. Still remember the microsim and iPhone data cable received tmobile received?

    • Petey

      Sorry about the typo lol I was typing from my android. What I meant to say was “I think T-Mobile is going to get the iPhone soon but probably during the summer when apple releases the next version (maybe this it be iPhone 4G with 4g). You guys still remember the leaks of the microsim & iphone cable with t-mobile labeling? I don’t think apple would appreciate T-mobile selling their products for those “international” customers unless there’s something up t-mobile sleeves that we hopefully will find out soon? hopefully.

      • TMOTECH

        Sorry to burst your bubble brother but I work for T-Mobile and I can tell you that we have no plans to pursue Apple for the I-Phone any time soon. That is not to say that Apple will not come to us but I don’t think it is happening anytime soon.

        • Petey

          Just cus u work for tmobile doesnt mean u know what tmobile plans on doing with their company. So we wait and see.

        • Snorefest

          dude, you are a customer service rep. correction, a tech rep. you have no inside knowledge on anything. you are a peon at the company. easily replaceable. dont act like you golf with phillip humm on the weekends. that sh*ts annoying. even if u really do work for tmobile(which i doubt) , i know for a fact our tech department has NO knowledge on what devices are being pursued. nice try though. and in actuality, tmobile is in fact attempting to cut a deal with Apple. So, next time you feel like acting more important than you are, do it somewhere where you cant be pwned for being a d-bag.

      • Oogieboogie1

        It’s iPhone 4 as in 4th generation… There’s no G in the equation… the iPhone never claimed to be an 4G… It’s people assuming it’s a 4G because of the number 4 in the title… Don’t blame Apple for idiots that talk out their a$$…

        I had a conversation with an AT&T rep that kept calling the 1st Gen iPhone, the iPhone 2G even after I corrected him… There was the iPhone, then iPhone 3G, then iPhone 3GS and now the iPhone 4…. AT&T has extremely bad customer service and I would never give them my money… I’ll stick with T-Mobile and wait patiently for the iPhone….

        T-Mobile is the carrier for the iPhone in other countries so I’m hoping that it will be available in the US soon…

    • Petey

      Sorry about the typo lol I was typing from my android. What I meant to say was “I think T-Mobile is going to get the iPhone soon but probably during the summer when apple releases the next version (maybe this it be iPhone 4G with 4g). You guys still remember the leaks of the microsim & iphone cable with t-mobile labeling? I don’t think apple would appreciate T-mobile selling their products for those “international” customers unless there’s something up t-mobile sleeves that we hopefully will find out soon? hopefully.

  • Petey

    I think tmobike going to get the iPhone soon but probably during the summer when they launch they next version. Still remember the microsim and iPhone data cable received tmobile received?

  • Petey

    I think tmobike going to get the iPhone soon but probably during the summer when they launch they next version. Still remember the microsim and iPhone data cable received tmobile received?

  • Cubs120

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/05/next-generation-iphone-casing-innards-revealed-on-video/

    well that certainly was not the verizon iphone. the verizon iphone looks like that case but no sim slot. maybe there will be an iphone 4 re-do soon. it would behoove t-mobile to get in on that with Verizon’s COO saying their new baby is not an exclusive deal.

    • Petey

      True that maybe that’s the aws version or maybe the next iPhone?

      Good that jobs didn’t have an exclusivity deal with Verizon. I think he learned What happen with att. When its available on all carrier more money and popularity.

    • Petey

      True that maybe that’s the aws version or maybe the next iPhone?

      Good that jobs didn’t have an exclusivity deal with Verizon. I think he learned What happen with att. When its available on all carrier more money and popularity.

    • Petey

      True that maybe that’s the aws version or maybe the next iPhone?

      Good that jobs didn’t have an exclusivity deal with Verizon. I think he learned What happen with att. When its available on all carrier more money and popularity.

    • Petey

      True that maybe that’s the aws version or maybe the next iPhone?

      Good that jobs didn’t have an exclusivity deal with Verizon. I think he learned What happen with att. When its available on all carrier more money and popularity.

  • Cubs120

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/05/next-generation-iphone-casing-innards-revealed-on-video/

    well that certainly was not the verizon iphone. the verizon iphone looks like that case but no sim slot. maybe there will be an iphone 4 re-do soon. it would behoove t-mobile to get in on that with Verizon’s COO saying their new baby is not an exclusive deal.

  • Cubs120

    http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/05/next-generation-iphone-casing-innards-revealed-on-video/

    well that certainly was not the verizon iphone. the verizon iphone looks like that case but no sim slot. maybe there will be an iphone 4 re-do soon. it would behoove t-mobile to get in on that with Verizon’s COO saying their new baby is not an exclusive deal.

  • ElectroManiac

    I don’t understand why people love the iphone so much. It is totally overrated. There is absolutely nothing an iphone can do, that an android can’t. Iphone OS has to many damn restrictions. I’ve been a loyal Tmo customer for a long time now, and when your loyal to Tmo, they treat you like gold, so I don’t think i’ll be switching anytime soon. I just got the new nexus s and it is absolutely amazing. It is by far the fastest, and best phone I have ever had, and trust me I have had a lottt of phones. I’ve had the G1, mytouch 3g, blackberry bold, htc hd2, samsung vibrant, and mytouch 4g. The nexus s definitely blows them all out of the water!!!!

  • ElectroManiac

    I don’t understand why people love the iphone so much. It is totally overrated. There is absolutely nothing an iphone can do, that an android can’t. Iphone OS has to many damn restrictions. I’ve been a loyal Tmo customer for a long time now, and when your loyal to Tmo, they treat you like gold, so I don’t think i’ll be switching anytime soon. I just got the new nexus s and it is absolutely amazing. It is by far the fastest, and best phone I have ever had, and trust me I have had a lottt of phones. I’ve had the G1, mytouch 3g, blackberry bold, htc hd2, samsung vibrant, and mytouch 4g. The nexus s definitely blows them all out of the water!!!!

  • Re2leons

    I’m leaving tmobile.

    No androids can beat apples smoothness in browsing, transitions, etc.
    Everything feel so polished with apple + an amazing app store

    • Anonymous

      typical apple customer ” it looks shinny ooooooooo”
      rather than go with a android that kills spec wise.
      androids browser is actually faster than iphones. u fail

      • Shawn

        Everyone has their own opinions. I personally like Android over Apple, but I can definitely say that I like using the screen on the iPhone 4 better; so crisp and VERY smooth.

        • Petey

          I like both phones, but I just don’t feel it’s right for Apple to be strict with what we do, and I don’t like Android on how when there’s an OS update, some/most of us won’t benefit from it because the manufacture decides to delay it or give us bs like samsung.

      • Shawn

        Everyone has their own opinions. I personally like Android over Apple, but I can definitely say that I like using the screen on the iPhone 4 better; so crisp and VERY smooth.

    • WP7 is just as smooth and makes ios interface look a bit old and stale. Yeah the bugs in the first generation of WP7 needs to be worked out but what it took Apple 2 or 3 generations to fix, WP7 is already catching up within a year and I won’t need to buy a new phone to do it!

    • WP7 is just as smooth and makes ios interface look a bit old and stale. Yeah the bugs in the first generation of WP7 needs to be worked out but what it took Apple 2 or 3 generations to fix, WP7 is already catching up within a year and I won’t need to buy a new phone to do it!

      • Snorefest

        ppppffftttttt. windowsphone is junk. hate to break it to ya. but that crap aint even on the radar. windowsmobile= terrible.

    • WP7 is just as smooth and makes ios interface look a bit old and stale. Yeah the bugs in the first generation of WP7 needs to be worked out but what it took Apple 2 or 3 generations to fix, WP7 is already catching up within a year and I won’t need to buy a new phone to do it!

    • Snorefest

      bye. u will not be missed. and when your iphone starts dropping signal and not doing anything, dont come crawling back here.

  • i’m just hoping it drives the prices in the used market down for a gsm model so i can get it for my wife. she doesn’t use data so she’s fine with just showing off even though iphones aren’t really exclusive in any way.

  • i’m just hoping it drives the prices in the used market down for a gsm model so i can get it for my wife. she doesn’t use data so she’s fine with just showing off even though iphones aren’t really exclusive in any way.

  • Gabrielrios06

    I have an iPhone 4 that’s unlocked for tmobile, it’s actually overrated. With all honesty it’s a cool phone but it’s not better then android.

  • Matt A

    AS SEEN ON: YAHOO & http://www.appolicious.com/finance/articles/4741-is-the-verizon-iphone-worth-buying-right-now

    But wait — there are issues
    While the HotSync feature is cool, there’s a big drawback for would-be Verizon iPhone owners: the CDMA technology inside the phone that makes it compatible with Verizon’s network also means that data and calls can’t happen on the phone simultaneously. You know those Apple commercials where the narrator takes a call, looks up an address and checks an email all while still talking to the other person? That’s not possible with the CDMA chip in the Verizon iPhone, which separates voice from data on the network, and therefore can only run one at a time. That’s kind of a big selling point for the iPhone, and for smartphones in general, and Verizon can’t do it yet.

  • Matt A

    ISN’T THIS WHAT THE 1ST VIBRANT SHOULD HAVE BEEN??!?

    • Matt A

      oops wrong page, i had both open ;-)

    • Matt A

      oops wrong page, i had both open ;-)

  • Matt A

    ISN’T THIS WHAT THE 1ST VIBRANT SHOULD HAVE BEEN??!?

  • alt-mobile

    The fact that exclusivity has ended is a good thing for the mobile industry. However, whether you like the iPhone or don’t, all experts have pointed out that this is going to be a tremendous blow to both T-Mobile as well as Sprint (especially since there are absolutely no plans in the near future of either carriers to receive the iPhone).

    I just hope, for T-Mobile’s sake, that they come out strong this year with a very good line-up to combat Verizon getting the iPhone or it could leave a big dent in the company.

  • alt-mobile

    The fact that exclusivity has ended is a good thing for the mobile industry. However, whether you like the iPhone or don’t, all experts have pointed out that this is going to be a tremendous blow to both T-Mobile as well as Sprint (especially since there are absolutely no plans in the near future of either carriers to receive the iPhone).

    I just hope, for T-Mobile’s sake, that they come out strong this year with a very good line-up to combat Verizon getting the iPhone or it could leave a big dent in the company.

    • knightairman

      Yeah the iphone is cool and all, but do you really want to pay more for the phone, and the service on Verizon. not me. Tmo has treated me great, and I”m stickin around. Android suits me fine.

    • knightairman

      Yeah the iphone is cool and all, but do you really want to pay more for the phone, and the service on Verizon. not me. Tmo has treated me great, and I”m stickin around. Android suits me fine.

    • Frankdaly

      LOL. the iphone isnt the be all end all of smartphones. in fact, its really quite dated. Sure, alot of people want one but alot more people want android. (the smarter people). Apple devices and computers are great for someone who isnt technologiclly savvy…. Apple products keep things simple for the simpleminded people who use them. They dont support open source codes or personalization in any way. so when you think about it, iphone users are all just mindless zombies who cant think for themselves. If you like sppending 3x as much to not have any say over how your device runs then def get an iphone or imac or ipod. if you like variety and controlling your own electronics, look elsewhere/

  • It’s not just a money issue. No two major carriers in the use the same data network so an unlocked iPhone won’t make a huge difference anyway. I could already take the old iPhone to t-mobile, but I couldn’t use the 3G. These phones aren’t great phones; they need the data side of the network more. This is true of smartphones in general. Unless the networks get easier to work with unlocked hardware won’t mean much.

    Aside from that, I’m happy with t-mobile for price, service and support. As long as t-mobile keeps giving me reasonable devices(G2, 4G) and reasonable service at reasonable prices I’ll stick with them. But without some big shakeup in the market I don’t expect much to change.

  • ForgotOldUN

    I suspect someone else has already come up with this conclusion, but here anyway is my speculation:

    OK, so Verizon has their version of the iPhone _4_ six or seven months after it was released.
    I’d be willing to place a (small) wager that come June, when Apple will likely release the iPhone 5, that it will have enough multiple frequencies to choose from such that the AWS frequencies that T-Mobile uses will be supported.

    In other words, while Verizon got the 4 first, T-Mobile, along with AT&T, will get the iPhone 5 first.

    • Snorefest

      ive heard apple is done with AT&T. but then again those are just rumors we hear around the water cooler here at work. would be nice though. AT&T do not play nice. they are not fun to work with. they want it their way or no way at all. what do you expect from one of the only monopoly’s in communications? you dont rule the airwaves by playing nice. AT&T should be broken up and deactivated for good. buncha slimey new jersey goblins.

  • Reylflores

    Can’t wait until Cricket gets the iphone!

  • Can’t wait to see the verizon iphone in action! It will be telling how well this icrap works on another carrier and determine if the problems with the iphone is due to AT&T or if the iphone is a piece of junk! All this AT&T bashing is because of the iphone and I personally haven’t heard any complaints with AT&T users that aren’t using Apple’s ibrick!

    • Snorefest

      im pretty sure the iphone is a piece of junk regardless of what network its on, but we will soon know for sure. plus, cdma? what is this, 1999? all set with verizon.

    • Snorefest

      im pretty sure the iphone is a piece of junk regardless of what network its on, but we will soon know for sure. plus, cdma? what is this, 1999? all set with verizon.

  • Can’t wait to see the verizon iphone in action! It will be telling how well this icrap works on another carrier and determine if the problems with the iphone is due to AT&T or if the iphone is a piece of junk! All this AT&T bashing is because of the iphone and I personally haven’t heard any complaints with AT&T users that aren’t using Apple’s ibrick!

  • You and the people who liked your comment are freaking stupid. The Nexus S is a more higher quality than any other android out. Build quality wise drop a nexus S and an iPhone4 without a case and you will see how great the build quality is of the iPhone4 in comparison. Nexus S doesn’t have that your holding it the wrong way issue either so yeah build qulity is definitely better. To each their own about looks. As for fragmentation and windows making a comeback? haha oh what a laugh.

  • Khulsey

    Personally I will be one of the tmobile customers that will be leaving for a verizon iphone. Android is great but has one big problem that iphone doesn’t, too many versions. Samsung,htc,lg,motorola, and they all have to bloat ware it to death and updates are slow as hell. Google should follow apples lead and make the nexus s the only android phone and not let carriers bloat it out and be in control of updates.

    • Snorefest

      obviously you have no idea how business works. or technology for that matter. have fun using the same phone a billion other simpleminded morons are using. good riddance.

    • Snorefest

      obviously you have no idea how business works. or technology for that matter. have fun using the same phone a billion other simpleminded morons are using. good riddance.

  • Danny

    I Completely agree that AT&T Will be losing so many customers. I use to be a AT&T Customer and an iPhone user and beleive me the phone was cool but android is better in my opinion. Many phones do more than the iPhone does and when apple invented something new for the iPhone usually android already had it. Bottom line its not worth switching to verizon in my opinion their customer service sucks I use to be a salesman for t-mobile and I had so many people switching from verizon to t-mobile. Heck I just got a free Vibrant because my wifes MyTouch3g was acting up. I would always stay with T-Mobile for their excellent customer service. When that changes than i’ll think about switching

  • Danny

    I Completely agree that AT&T Will be losing so many customers. I use to be a AT&T Customer and an iPhone user and beleive me the phone was cool but android is better in my opinion. Many phones do more than the iPhone does and when apple invented something new for the iPhone usually android already had it. Bottom line its not worth switching to verizon in my opinion their customer service sucks I use to be a salesman for t-mobile and I had so many people switching from verizon to t-mobile. Heck I just got a free Vibrant because my wifes MyTouch3g was acting up. I would always stay with T-Mobile for their excellent customer service. When that changes than i’ll think about switching

  • Knightairman

    Verizon Iphone doesn’t impress me. To launch without 4g just doesn’t make sense from the Nations largest network who will be launching 4 new android phones capable of 4G speeds. I’m waiting for all the carriers save sprint to go into LTE, then just need a freq. hopping phone that will work on all the neworks. Drop in a sim and go. Just like Europe. Course Verizon doesn’t want that. Verizon and apple thing along the same lines. I’ll get a mytouch 4g when I get the cash. till then my G1 is running fine.

  • knightairman

    how many different flavors of windows are out there running on PC’s right now. How many Mac’s are out there still running, that can’t upgrade to the latest OSX. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but when phones advance as fast as they have, and you think about how fast android has grown, especially since Verizon took the droid series. It happens, but android gives a lot of choice where apple is take it or leave it.

    • Snorefest

      good point

  • knightairman

    how many different flavors of windows are out there running on PC’s right now. How many Mac’s are out there still running, that can’t upgrade to the latest OSX. Yeah fragmentation sucks, but when phones advance as fast as they have, and you think about how fast android has grown, especially since Verizon took the droid series. It happens, but android gives a lot of choice where apple is take it or leave it.

  • Snorefest

    i hate the iphone. I dont understand how it can even be a competitor to even the most stock android phone (t-mobile comet). There is nothing revolutionary about it. Nothing amazing. Plus, its all boring and locked down by smelly Apple, Inc. But I will say this: I hate AT&T way more than I hate Apple, Inc and I AM GLAD someone else finally has the iphone. Now you will all witness many many many people leaving AT&T. and it will be GRAND. FINALLY! AT&T has nothing.

  • Snorefest

    windows versus android is like gary coleman versus Kobe bryant in a game of one on one basketball. windowsphone is just….. awful. its the Kin 3

    • This is a matter of opinion, in fact all of your comments are matters of opinion so please stop insulting anything and everything!