T-Mobile Previews Their Upcoming 42Mbps HSPA+ Upgrade, With Video!

Editor’s Note:  I know the camera work is a little shaky, I had to do a balancing act with my laptop and taking notes so I’m sorry it’s not the best!

T-Mobile showed off a little bit of their upcoming 42Mbps HSPA+ network by doing exactly what I would do to test it and that is to download an album and play a video game.  Honestly, if you’re a computer gaming person, the frame rates in the Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit game will most certainly impress you and make you question if that’s really coming out of mobile broadband.  We took not 1, not 2, but 3 videos of T-Mobile testing out the network so watch them, enjoy them and then hope you’re city is at the top of the launch list!

A couple of notes:

  • T-Mobile hopes that 2/3 of their existing network will see 42Mbps HSPA+ speeds in 2011 and work is already in progress.
  • Theoretical speeds of 42Mbps but likely speeds of ~ 25Mbps, which we’ll take.  Yeah, we’ll take 25Mbps very nicely!
  • The demo device was a ZTE webConnect Rocket 3.0 device that will be among the first devices to take advantage of the new speeds.
  • T-Mobile believes that 42Mbps HSPA+ will continue to place it in a “leadership position” among the competition with the fastest network available.
  • HSPA+ growth will grow significantly more than LTE in the next 4 years and will be achieved with less infrastructure costs which in turn leads to the notion that T-Mobile won’t be looking to charge a premium for data.
  • The current 4G network is 160% large than Verizon’s LTE and 40% bigger than Sprint’s Wimax.
  • 900K 4G devices have been sold so far to customers.
  • The average T-Mobile customer uses 1GB of data per month.

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  • ewalk493

    I’d like to see a few high-end stock or close-to-stock Android powered phones take advantage of this speed.

  • MMC

    All of that speed but with no truly good devices to use it

    • Crazythunder

      i pray to God tmo is holding back on a superphone. i keep asking myself why i stay with tmo and their sucky phones. rate plans. that’s the only reason. the evo shift is looking sweet. even att has some beasts announced. tmo? pfff after 6 years of waiting, i’m very,very close to paying more for a rate plan that comes with a respectable phone. i’m sick of reading forumsnews sites and seeing nothing but sprint and verizon news….usually all about the beastly phones they are releasing. what good is 42Mbps with a cilq2?
      give me a break. i’ll wait till end of march, and if nothing amazing pops up, i’ll have to balance my budget and switch. out of tmo’s mouth—”Tmo customers are younger, sensitive to cost and complexity”….. bull. i’m more than willing to save up for a 5-600 dollar phone if it’s worthy. and i’m not young. that is their mindset….”why do we need a shift type of phone? our customers can’t afford it.” pfff

      • factcheckplz

        The evo shift is nearly identical to the g2. Same internal specs and processor, slightly different buttons on front. HTC simply repackaged the design for Sprint and threw in a wimax chip. IF the shift is a super phone, then so is the g2.

      • me

        The Nexus S, MyTouch 4g, Vibrant, HD2, and HD7 are all 1ghz phones that are respectable in my opinion. But hey if paying more makes you feel better go right on ahead.

      • Anonymous

        Lol!!!! “what good is 42Mbps with a cilq2″ Well, here you go buddy!!! What’s good with having an evo shift and higher prices and slower network? You need to get your priorities straight fool!!! You can have the lamborghini but no gasoline, or the hyundai and rocket fuel. Take your pick but you are already a sucker in my eyes!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/SKRILLDILLY Skrill- Dilly

          You are the man for that comment +1

      • PointingOutBs

        crazy thunder is nothing more than some heat lighting. gets your attention and means nothing.

    • J-Hop2o6

      thx David for the vids! and nice job on the next HSPA+ update Tmo.

      @MMC – there will be some 42HSPA+ phones later on in the year. –> http://twitter.com/#/TMobile/status/23103888198467584

    • Anonymous

      No good devices, what are you smoking? I’m using a Nexus One, Not a HSPA+ phone but still getting kick ass dl speeds between 3.7 – 6.2 MB. My upload speeds are a solid 1.4 MB.
      My new MyTouch 4G is even faster, both are great phones, Nexus is still very relevent to what is still out there currently. The MyTouch 4G is a kick ass phone. The Nexus S, not a bad device either. There will be more to come..

  • http://www.facebook.com/harleyhong Harlimus Prime

    okay, so now i can hit the softcap faster

  • Anonymous

    This is promising. T-Mobile is raping everybody out here when it comes to speed.
    Clear and WiMAX is so pathetic.
    I can’t wait for the future cities map to launch, I know it’s coming to Las Vegas in the first phase… moar please

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  • Allwayshappy95123

    T-Mobile needs to get their act together in regards to their poor connections 1st and for most and stop pumping out these Mbps rates that don’t mean crack when you have NO CONNECTIVITY!!!! Long time T-Mobile customer and I am seriously getting sick and tired of no connections and or poor connections when in certain urban places. My connections literally drops at my girl friend’s living room and in other parts of town and I am in the greater bay area!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/harleyhong Harlimus Prime

      three years ago, we were complaining about the lack of 3g, and now we’re complaining about the density, my guess is they’re concerned with making up for the lack of 3g, density will come second.

    • http://www.facebook.com/harleyhong Harlimus Prime

      three years ago, we were complaining about the lack of 3g, and now we’re complaining about the density, my guess is they’re concerned with making up for the lack of 3g, density will come second.

    • Dbone

      Many times I’ve heard (I’ve been a T-mobile Customer for seven years and the service is just terrible). Face it. You’re a cheapskate, you aren’t going anywhere. Think of it like T-Mobile is a wise wizard. When you’re camping and have no signal, its a sign you should enjoy the outdoors. When you’re in YOUR GIRLFRIENDS living room DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND rather than look at your signal bar. LOL! what a goof

      • http://www.facebook.com/SKRILLDILLY Skrill- Dilly

        I havve always said the exact same thing. People act like it’s the end of the world if you lose bars…How about you gain some “life bars” and go live for god sakes! lol

    • Dbone

      Many times I’ve heard (I’ve been a T-mobile Customer for seven years and the service is just terrible). Face it. You’re a cheapskate, you aren’t going anywhere. Think of it like T-Mobile is a wise wizard. When you’re camping and have no signal, its a sign you should enjoy the outdoors. When you’re in YOUR GIRLFRIENDS living room DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND rather than look at your signal bar. LOL! what a goof

  • Ivan

    I’m in las vegas using the n900 and only getting 8 :(

  • Ivan

    I’m in las vegas using the n900 and only getting 8 :(

    • Manusferrera

      only 8 on a cell phone what a loser.

      • God

        hahahaha

        touche

      • God

        hahahaha

        touche

      • God

        hahahaha

        touche

  • Symsoul

    The thing I love about HSPA+ is that current 3G, non-HSPA+ phones, can take advantage of the theoretical 21Mbps speeds (software upgrade only, for that speed, that doesn’t require the hardware). Those that want to take the leap to HSPA+ devices will be rewarded with the 42Mbps and not nearly the as much congestion as say, Big Red’s LTE.
    Magenta might have let us down with a lack of eye candy at CES but at least it appears they know what they’re doing with their 4G (err, 3.5G) implementation.

    • Kevin

      Well, not exactly. Current 3g phones will see higher speeds than what they are currently getting because of the infrastructure supporting more backhaul, but they will never reach higher speeds than what the chipset supports, which some are 3.6 while most are 7.2 HSDPA. Software has NOTHING to do with reaching those speeds. It requires 4g hardware and even the current 4g phones (MT 4g and G2) can still only reach 14.4 max because that is what the chipset supports even though the network may support faster speeds.

  • OldPro

    “The average T-Mobile customer uses 1GB of data per month.”

    So why don’t we have a 1 or 2 Gig plan? Why do the data plans jump from 200 mb to 5 Gig?

  • OldPro

    “The average T-Mobile customer uses 1GB of data per month.”

    So why don’t we have a 1 or 2 Gig plan? Why do the data plans jump from 200 mb to 5 Gig?

    • Jeremy

      Id like to understand who the average customer is and how often they are using the internet and what for. Testing in my household with only mild usage for a month easily surpassed 3gb. If I add gaming, or streaming, or anything most people use the internet for I would easily send that number in the 15-20gb range.

    • God

      Because the average is not the median?

    • God

      Because the average is not the median?

  • OldPro

    “The average T-Mobile customer uses 1GB of data per month.”

    So why don’t we have a 1 or 2 Gig plan? Why do the data plans jump from 200 mb to 5 Gig?

  • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

    wow that is fast its faster then my home internet

  • Anonymous

    All T-Mobile customers with a smart phone can utilize the 4-G network. My Nexus One flies on the HSPA+ network reaching DL speeds over 6.2 MB. My new MyTouch 4G device is on fire it is so fast. Other carriers you will need a 4G phone to be able to utilize their speeds and not to mention a big bump in price for fast data.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE
    PS These speeds are during the day at peek hours.

    • G2

      That just means T-Mobile didn’t have full 3G before when the Nexus One came out. There wasn’t enough back haul to actually support regular 3G. It’s more like now T-Mobile can FINALLY make full use of your Nexus One’s HSDPA 7.2 Mbps hardware. So they never really had full 3G until they started coming out with their 4G.

      Also, T-Mobile’s upload speeds don’t even get close to the 3G HSUPA 5.76 Mbps upload speeds. Based on T-Mobile’s event, I doubt they’re improving it since they didn’t mention anything about uploads (maybe I missed it).

      • God

        So when ATT, VZW, and Sprint’s 3g networks were maxing out at around 800kbps to 1.2mbps, those weren’t 3g?

      • God

        So when ATT, VZW, and Sprint’s 3g networks were maxing out at around 800kbps to 1.2mbps, those weren’t 3g?

  • Anonymous

    All T-Mobile customers with a smart phone can utilize the 4-G network. My Nexus One flies on the HSPA+ network reaching DL speeds over 6.2 MB. My new MyTouch 4G device is on fire it is so fast. Other carriers you will need a 4G phone to be able to utilize their speeds and not to mention a big bump in price for fast data.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE
    PS These speeds are during the day at peek hours.

  • Anonymous

    All T-Mobile customers with a smart phone can utilize the 4-G network. My Nexus One flies on the HSPA+ network reaching DL speeds over 6.2 MB. My new MyTouch 4G device is on fire it is so fast. Other carriers you will need a 4G phone to be able to utilize their speeds and not to mention a big bump in price for fast data.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE
    PS These speeds are during the day at peek hours.

  • Rocket 2.0

    Too bad I have have to get a new modem (I have the Rocket 2.0). If I’m going to buy a new modem then I’ll go with whichever carrier that lets me buy a small MiFi like device first.

    • DZ

      I’m going to get the LTE MiFi from either Samsung or Novatel. My Rocket 2.0 has been a let down. I get the same speeds as other HSPA 7.2 devices (4 to 5 Mbps). Uploads max out at around 1.2 Mbps. So much for 5.7 Mbps.

      I’ve seen Verizon’s LTE get up to 35 Mbps down and 12 Mbps up at some local stores. I’m done with T-Mobile.

      • PointingOutBs

        There is noway you walked into a verizon store and got speeds like that. No big red store is cooking up speeds like that because non of their towers are that fast. they dont even advertise speeds that fast.

        • Jeremy

          In my testing of the LTE mobile broadband in the Dallas market: the speeds, when signal is strong, average 17d and 7u, but the backwards compatibility with 3G is unusable.

        • geode

          Looks like you got schooled. From what I hear Verizon tends to advertise slower than max theoretical speeds. Unlike Sprint and T-Mobile who advertise max theoretical speeds that users hardly get.

        • Anonymous

          The REAL WORLD speed I did at VZW corp store using speedtest.net:
          Incoming: 10-16Mbps
          Outgoing: 4-6Mbps

          But $80 for 10GB…..T-Mobile can easily beat it with $40 with 10GB semi-unlimited.

        • Darkelf

          $80 for 10Gb, they bill you 10 for every 1Gb over that, AND throttle your happy *ss when you try to use it that way. If T-Mobile throttles to something realistic for their “4G” instead of the 56k they would apply when it was just 3G service, the $40 for 5Gb would be compeititve and beat out Verizon’s story. Bring the caps up to 10 again, keep the price and the same story with the throttling, and they’ll give everybody a run for their money- not that they’ll do that. All of the mobile service providers are being stupid because they don’t want to go to the expense of properly supporting all their customers with service that actually is “usable” 24/7 for a full month’s of use.

      • http://twitter.com/hineschr hineschr

        12 up? Please good luck with that. Make sure to turn off wifi next time you do a test.

      • Bills75

        That is crazy talk saying that LTE is up to 35 Mbps. If you go to their own web site it say download is up to 15 Mbps only. Get you facts straight before talking trash

        • Darkelf

          35Mbits is theoretical speed for the LTE 1st gen gear. They’re already capping it downwards to the 15 you’re claiming.

    • Anonymous

      I get up to 12Mbps (average 5-7Mbps) incoming with Clear Spot, but the coverage is hit or miss outside NYC, so I have to keep T-Mobile for rollback.
      The best way to test the network is to play 1080p youtube and look at the cue bar progress, or run speedtest.net on different servers (but some servers can’t handle more than 25Mbps).

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  • Anonymous

    ALL of the current 3G devices will get benefit of this “4G” upgrade.
    Other than speed, latency is also important.
    My NS and MT4 can achieve down to 50ms latency. This looks good if you do time-sensitive internet applications (online games).
    Keep in mind that, this “4G” doesn’t charge you extra like other carriers do, and it’s 100% backward-compatible.

    • Darkelf

      No, it doesn’t…but go over the cap and unless they’ve upped their throttling speeds, it goes from fast to dialup speeds. Before you remark, I do software development and consulting at locations other than home. That means I typically see ~4-5G of “normal” use and if I’m pushing updates to the games I port on the side or to my other business’ software projects, I can see as much as 15 or more Gbytes of usage. I can see some of the value position with them since they just throttle (AT&T will just ream your pocketbook and Verizon will ream it AND throttle you…) but I’ve a problem with the cap level, no ability to get a larger one at more expense, and the throttling level (Virgin claims to cap at about 256kbits when you go over…56k is BS in this day and age, and is more punitive than anything they might claim it to be…). If they throttle to something “painful, but usable” like 512k or 768k or so, then this is a win story with their “4G” service. Otherwise it’s debatable that’s it’s usable for anything other than “in a pinch”.

  • Tome

    Thanks for the comments. I got my Rocket 1.0 w/out a contract last year mainly to upload to Amazon S3 and Google Storage for Developers while I’m out. T-Mobile’s 1.3 Mbps upload speeds are nice but Verizon’s 4-6 Mbps with peaks at 13 Mbps upload speeds people are posting here looks even better. When the LTE MiFis come out I’ll be switching to Verizon. T-Mobile doesn’t seem to be upgrading their upload speeds.

    • Allice

      I spend a lot of time uploading too when I use my Rocket 2.0 while away from a dedicated internet connection. I upload mostly full resolution photos. About half of my bandwidth usage is uploading. I was hoping T-Mobile was going to also improve upload speeds too. I’ll be switching to Verizon’s USB LTE modem at the end of my billing cycle.

    • Zimmerman

      Yes T-Mobile, improve your upload speeds please. You’re getting passed up in that department. The majority of my Rocket usage is for uploading data. I’m seriously considering moving to Verizon’s LTE service since uploading is too important to me.

    • FPGA

      i want better upload speeds too. looks like verizon has a better balance between upload and download. i got the rocket 2.0 at full price and i was disappointed that i get the same speeds as my option icon 452 aws. the icon was better in weak signal areas too. in strong signal areas the icon got 4-5 Mbps down and 1.4 Mbps up while the rocket 2.0 got the same speeds and the connection manager showed H+ for HSPA+ the whole time. i do like the swivel action though.

      anyway, back to uploading. for my specific use for mobile broadband, most of my usage is spent uploading. verizon’s 4-6 Mbps is better than 1 so i’ll be checking out verizon’s modems this weekend. they have lte coverage in the same places i use my rocket. for me, t-mobile is getting left behind. when t-mobile gets better uploads, maybe i’ll come back since i don’t sign 2 year contracts. i go to whichever carrier that provides me the performance i want.

  • Guest

    Why isn’t T-Mobile not upgrading their upload rates?

    • Pham

      That’s too bad. The company I work for currently uses T-Mobile for mobile broadband (it’s a small company). However, upload speeds are more important to us than saving a little bit of money on service. While we’re out in the field, we upload large amounts of data (ie. data sets from experiments, zip files, MATLAB data, etc.). The time it takes to send the data, process/verify/confrim (depends on the data) and send back results are critical. My IT department is testing out Verizon’s LTE upload speeds and are considering switching our modems to Verizon’s.