Nokia Nuron 2 Canceled, Nobody Noticed

I remember a time when Nokia sat on top of the world, when the Matrix phone was the hottest technology and I thought the 1.3 Megapixel camera on my Nokia 6682 was the greatest thing ever. Well, times have changed and Nokia has found itself in a position where they just can’t catch a break in the US market.

The cancellation of the Nuron 2 happened almost a month ago and I promised myself when I found out I would write about it the next day which became the day after that and then it got lost at the very bottom of my to do list. Sadly, nobody really cared either. The Nokia Nuron 2, also known as the “Kodiak” was set for a January 19th launch and that day has come and gone. From what hear, the phone was canceled well over a month ago and I honestly can’t say I blame anyone, at least not at T-Mobile.

Nokia, the onus is on you to produce quality handsets that can compete with the iPhone’s and Android’s of the world right now. The N8 is a great handset with perhaps the best cellphone camera on the market, but being great simply isn’t good enough these days. You have to do better than quality hardware and that’s where Nokia needs to improve. Meego might be good, Meego might be really good but I have almost no hope for it taking off in the US. Windows Phone 7 has a better chance at taking on Android and iOS than Meego could hope for. Perhaps I’m wrong, in fact I hope I’m wrong because I’d love to see Nokia come back in a ferocious way but I think I see a Cubs World Series win in my future before I see myself purchasing another Nokia handset.

Sad, I really loved that 6682.

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  • Petey

    Nokia?… no thank you. Had bad experience with The Last few handset with Nokia… :/

  • Jhawlz

    it’s too sad, I really hope to see them soon in the future again…. good luck Nokia

  • Spidey_geek

    And no one comments either–except me to notice it.

  • Junkmail

    they should just start running android and worry about hardware, not software

  • DavidOhio

    David, I feel your pain. I have had several Nokia handsets over the years with T-mobile and have always admired the quality of the handsets. Solid build, great battery life, best signal of any device…the list goes on. Times have changed and Nokia needs to change as well. I hope they turn things around and release some great new high powered, feature packed touch screen devices that can compete in the US market!

  • DavidOhio

    David, I feel your pain. I have had several Nokia handsets over the years with T-mobile and have always admired the quality of the handsets. Solid build, great battery life, best signal of any device…the list goes on. Times have changed and Nokia needs to change as well. I hope they turn things around and release some great new high powered, feature packed touch screen devices that can compete in the US market!

  • Anonymous

    I had a Nokia 3595 with a color screen and Polyphonic ringtones baby! I still remember the music from that bowling game.

    • Anonymous

      Oh yeah! That was my first “Color” screen phone. My mind was blown!

  • If nokia & t-mobile are gonna be partners they need to bring some real game to the market everyone bought a nuron as a back up nobody who wants a smartphone bought it for daily phone especially when you got phones like the optimus t and hd2 selling for less than 230 with no contracts. I they wanted to have a good jab at the market they would of brought the n900 and n8 when they were barely out maybe it wouldnt sold as much I bet it would created serious buzz and thats what nokia needs right now in the US.

  • If nokia & t-mobile are gonna be partners they need to bring some real game to the market everyone bought a nuron as a back up nobody who wants a smartphone bought it for daily phone especially when you got phones like the optimus t and hd2 selling for less than 230 with no contracts. I they wanted to have a good jab at the market they would of brought the n900 and n8 when they were barely out maybe it wouldnt sold as much I bet it would created serious buzz and thats what nokia needs right now in the US.

  • JasonJayJay

    I LOVED my Nokia 3250. had the rotating bottom. It was great.I used it until it fell apart 2 years later.

  • Wouldn’t be surprised if this phone shows up on one of the AWS carriers in Canada. They seem to get all the T-Mobile rejects like the XT720.

  • Wouldn’t be surprised if this phone shows up on one of the AWS carriers in Canada. They seem to get all the T-Mobile rejects like the XT720.

  • MattC

    The crazy thing is the neuron was not intended to compete against the iphone or high end android, rather it was a low end smartphone. Nokia has done a poor job in the US over the last 8-10 years but it has continued to do well most other places in the world.

    As for switching to android or WP7. It is a death sentence for them.. the end game for all these manufactures is the associated services market. This is app sales, music sales, ad impressions etc.. Hardware will be a low margin item for all manufactures.

    I would love to see nokia with a great, competitive handset in the US. I am looking forward to the next generation of Meego phones and will likely purchase one when they are available.

  • Stoneyjonez

    The fact is, Nokia has their head so far up their asses that they don’t realize their own software is garbage. When was the last time anyone got excited about the latest version of Symbian? Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

    • Fifakicker2215

      Ummm, me? I wish theyd update my N97 to symbian^3, but they def wont…Nokia is byfar still the best handset maker in the world and will continue to be…their only disadvantage is their software, so they need to redo symbian like microsoft did windows mobile or go with meego/android/maemo as everyone else has been suggesting…only reason why they havent yet is because symbian is their “open” system they believe in….sad choice :/

      • Fifakicker2215

        Not to mention with the Ovi store, it would be hard for them to really implement another OS, but it can be done…their management needs to stop sucking and let some of these projects thrive

  • Anonymous

    Poor Nokia. Their Android phone better compete! Those Android devices they showed off at the CES looked competitive. I personally am looking forward to them to see how they stack up. Under the hood alone looked like they are now trying to do something right. So we’ll see…

    • What Android device did Nokia show off at CES? I don’t recall Nokia showing off much of anything at CES? They aren’t contemplating Android as far as they are publicly admitting, I think you are thinking of someone else!

      • Anonymous

        Oooo…I GOT IT ALL WRONG! I apologize to you, David, and to the TmoNews readers. I was thinking LG….Nokia and LG are so not even close lol. Sorry man.

      • Anonymous

        Oooo…I GOT IT ALL WRONG! I apologize to you, David, and to the TmoNews readers. I was thinking LG….Nokia and LG are so not even close lol. Sorry man.

    • What Android device did Nokia show off at CES? I don’t recall Nokia showing off much of anything at CES? They aren’t contemplating Android as far as they are publicly admitting, I think you are thinking of someone else!

  • Anonymous

    Poor Nokia. Their Android phone better compete! Those Android devices they showed off at the CES looked competitive. I personally am looking forward to them to see how they stack up. Under the hood alone looked like they are now trying to do something right. So we’ll see…

  • Hamster

    The N900 is a great handset and I’m anticipating the N9 (or whatever Nokia’s going to call their Meego flagship) is going to make me drool and probably pay full price for it even though I’ve got a MT4G.

    Hopefully T-Mobile will carry it and get Kineto to grant it Wifi Calling. Then the awesomeness would likely be complete.

    • One of the first UMA phones was a Nokia (6136). Pretty sure they don’t have to beg Kineto to let them have Wi-Fi calling, unlike HTC and Motorola seemed like they had to do for their Androids.

    • One of the first UMA phones was a Nokia (6136). Pretty sure they don’t have to beg Kineto to let them have Wi-Fi calling, unlike HTC and Motorola seemed like they had to do for their Androids.

    • One of the first UMA phones was a Nokia (6136). Pretty sure they don’t have to beg Kineto to let them have Wi-Fi calling, unlike HTC and Motorola seemed like they had to do for their Androids.

  • Hamster

    The N900 is a great handset and I’m anticipating the N9 (or whatever Nokia’s going to call their Meego flagship) is going to make me drool and probably pay full price for it even though I’ve got a MT4G.

    Hopefully T-Mobile will carry it and get Kineto to grant it Wifi Calling. Then the awesomeness would likely be complete.

  • Temmy28

    @Junkmail: Nokia with Android, sounds like a great idea to me. I will buy that in a heart beat.

  • Temmy28

    @Junkmail: Nokia with Android, sounds like a great idea to me. I will buy that in a heart beat.

  • Anonymous

    I remember I used to think Nokia was the best phone maker followed by Motorola. Its sad to see Nokia being the phone for the ultra-cheap-no-frills group.

    What I don’t understand is why doesn’t Nokia just suck it up and try to push their flagship phones on T-mobile as a subsidized phone. For the past few years, I’ve heard that their flagship phones are awesome by a lot of tech people, but it’s only available non-subsidized for several hundred dollars. While there are a few that buy that way, I think most people will get the best without paying too much. I bet if the Nokia flagship phones were offered on T-mobile for a decent price ($100-$200 range) with an optional data plan (IE like the other feature phones), they would get a lot of sales.

    But it is true that Nokia’s latest offerings are going to have a hard time going toe-to-toe with iOS/Android/WP7.

  • Anonymous

    I remember I used to think Nokia was the best phone maker followed by Motorola. Its sad to see Nokia being the phone for the ultra-cheap-no-frills group.

    What I don’t understand is why doesn’t Nokia just suck it up and try to push their flagship phones on T-mobile as a subsidized phone. For the past few years, I’ve heard that their flagship phones are awesome by a lot of tech people, but it’s only available non-subsidized for several hundred dollars. While there are a few that buy that way, I think most people will get the best without paying too much. I bet if the Nokia flagship phones were offered on T-mobile for a decent price ($100-$200 range) with an optional data plan (IE like the other feature phones), they would get a lot of sales.

    But it is true that Nokia’s latest offerings are going to have a hard time going toe-to-toe with iOS/Android/WP7.

  • Anonymous

    I remember I used to think Nokia was the best phone maker followed by Motorola. Its sad to see Nokia being the phone for the ultra-cheap-no-frills group.

    What I don’t understand is why doesn’t Nokia just suck it up and try to push their flagship phones on T-mobile as a subsidized phone. For the past few years, I’ve heard that their flagship phones are awesome by a lot of tech people, but it’s only available non-subsidized for several hundred dollars. While there are a few that buy that way, I think most people will get the best without paying too much. I bet if the Nokia flagship phones were offered on T-mobile for a decent price ($100-$200 range) with an optional data plan (IE like the other feature phones), they would get a lot of sales.

    But it is true that Nokia’s latest offerings are going to have a hard time going toe-to-toe with iOS/Android/WP7.

  • Ever since their retreat from the japanese market i have felt bad for nokia, now the same might just happen in the US market.I have a feeling i’ll be saying “Goodnight sweet prince” to Nokia soon…

  • Anonymous

    I loved my 5530 and my first smart phone was the N95 8gb. Their problem is that they only seem to care about hardware and forget the all important software with an appealing UI. I hope they make a comeback one day. Android software+Nokia hardware= my dream phone!!!

  • Anonymous

    I loved my 5530 and my first smart phone was the N95 8gb. Their problem is that they only seem to care about hardware and forget the all important software with an appealing UI. I hope they make a comeback one day. Android software+Nokia hardware= my dream phone!!!

  • scottyb

    That suks. Thats a good lookin’ phone. Better than some of the other junk thats being thrown at us.

  • scottyb

    That suks. Thats a good lookin’ phone. Better than some of the other junk thats being thrown at us.

  • scottyb

    That suks. Thats a good lookin’ phone. Better than some of the other junk thats being thrown at us.

  • Anonymous

    Nokia has the best calling quality and reception. I am puzzled why Nokia hates Android so much.

  • Anonymous

    Nokia has the best calling quality and reception. I am puzzled why Nokia hates Android so much.

    • Riopato

      Thats because they spent so much money for Symbian before Android started it’s release. Sometimes business decisons can really hurt a company. Kin anyone?

    • they DID have best call quality and reception. then BlackBerry stepped their game up and actually have become the all around, most reliable device. battery life, call quality, reception, wifi, 3g, internet, blackberry is the real deal. I ALMOST went back to them but just bought a G2 finally. But you are right, Nokia is right up there

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Love the design. Shame it never came out. Oh well, got a possible Nokia N9 Meego device to look forward to:

    gsmarena.com/nokia_meego_tablet_image_and_specs_surface_we_hold_our_breath-news-2248.php

    Can’t wait for MWC 2011!!! Meego’s gonna be great Woohoo!!!

    • I hope its as great as you hype it up to be

      • Wilma Flintstone

        From what I’ve seen, it’s looking great. It can run Android Apps as well:

        droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/wetab-with-meego-will-run-android-apps/

        That alone gives it the support and development base needed but on top of that, it can run Symbian apps, Java Apps, Adobe Air Apps along with its own Meego Apps. It’s definitely got the necessities needed for a great OS. The question that I’m moreso interested in is, how hard is Nokia, Intel and Linux going to push Meego? It’d be pointless to have all that potential and not Market it. You should check out some of the videos on Meego on youtube if you haven’t already. It’s a really nice looking OS, especially the Tablet OS. Also, here’s a video showing some of the many devices that they are planning to put Meego on:

        youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_cwsJnQps

        Here’s the Tablet UI that I was mentioning:

        youtube.com/watch?v=QqeeQd-YNL0

        Also, the N9 is rumored to be redesigned to have a 4.5 inch screen, 1.2Ghz Processor (Not sure if Dual Core but most likely Single) etc. Meego already has playback of 1080p video and much more. Meego also has 5 point Multitouch instead of just the usual 2 point multitouch. It’s looking great.

        Here’s the New rumored info on the N9 courtesy of GSMArena.com:

        gsmarena.com/nokia_meego_tablet_image_and_specs_surface_we_hold_our_breath-news-2248.php

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Love the design. Shame it never came out. Oh well, got a possible Nokia N9 Meego device to look forward to:

    gsmarena.com/nokia_meego_tablet_image_and_specs_surface_we_hold_our_breath-news-2248.php

    Can’t wait for MWC 2011!!! Meego’s gonna be great Woohoo!!!

  • Meagan

    I owned Nokia mobiles before and loved them. I had to get a Nokia from AT&T to use on Tmobile, since at the time Tmobile had a lack of great mobiles. Nokia also had 2 huge stores in 2 big malls in Los Angeles. Both Nokia stores did not sell the products, only displayed working mobiles. You had to order off their website. Anyway long story short. Nokia needs to understand that if people are wanting to buy it, make sure it is available right there to purchase. Wonder if their Nokia store in Chicago is still opened. I believe I read that they sold Nokia mobiles there. Nokia is suppose to be big in Europe. Wonder if it still the case.
    Nokia is going down like IBM. They were on top, but didn’t keep up with the times for marketing.

    • I actually don’t even recall seeing a Nokia commercial last year or the one before

    • Crimeanarchy

      store closed!!!!!

    • Crimeanarchy

      store closed!!!!!

    • Crimeanarchy

      store closed!!!!!

    • Crimeanarchy

      store closed!!!!!

  • Its really too bad that Nokia is slowly slipping away from the US. They are still big in Europe but come on now. I would love to get another Nokia phone, but if they keep on slacking, it’ll be like Nokia never existed in the US. Sad…really. I really wanted that phone too. C5-03~

    • Anonymous

      I just graduated from Nokia to Android. I’ve had so many Nokia’s with t-mobile and loved them all. It’s too bad Nokia couldn’t get any high end smart phones for t-mobile USA. I do like the C6-01 though.

    • Anonymous

      I just graduated from Nokia to Android. I’ve had so many Nokia’s with t-mobile and loved them all. It’s too bad Nokia couldn’t get any high end smart phones for t-mobile USA. I do like the C6-01 though.

  • My first phone was a nokia tracfone oh how bad a decision having a tracfone was thank god im with t-mobile and rocking a sexy nexii 2(Samsung Nexus S)

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  • TimmyT

    This phone wasn’t canceled because it couldn’t compete with Android or iOS. It was canceled because it didn’t pass the 911 requirements (although I’m not sure which phase it didn’t pass).

    • that may be true, Timmy but lets be honest : Symbian cannot compete with android or ios or even windowsphone7 for that matter.

  • TimmyT

    This phone wasn’t canceled because it couldn’t compete with Android or iOS. It was canceled because it didn’t pass the 911 requirements (although I’m not sure which phase it didn’t pass).

  • TimmyT

    This phone wasn’t canceled because it couldn’t compete with Android or iOS. It was canceled because it didn’t pass the 911 requirements (although I’m not sure which phase it didn’t pass).

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

    • Anonymous

      I had that big gold bad boy. I loved that phone. I think it had AOL chat or something like that on it. That was my first phone that had the “vibrate” option lol. Oh, the good ‘ol days of Nokia…

    • doxiechic1

      OMG! i had that phone and i loved it. nokia then came out with a color version a few years later and i got that when i was 13 (contracts were up). i was the coolest kid with the “newest nokia”. im a teacher now and all of these kids are running around with smartphones as their first phones. im very sad to see how nokia has devolved over the years, and i hope the nuron 2 comes out

  • TMoFan

    I’ll always have a soft spot for Nokia. It was my first phone when I signed up with Voicestream. Anyone else remember that gold Nokia? I dropped that thing so many times and it never stopped working. Sad to see Nokia in its current state, but they’re going to have to change if they want to be in the game.

  • Windsofchange49

    The problem with Nokia (as usual) is their commitment to Symbian which is a dying platform. Why won’t they just realize this fact and switch their mobile efforts to Android? I think the main problem lies in Nokia being a behemoth of a company that is slow to adapt to change, and at the same time exhibits too much pride; the desire to change, produce, market, and sell products that are enticing to the customer. Whenever I see a Nokia smartphone such as the N900 or the N8 I see nothing more than a fancy Cadillac. The hardware is great just like a luxury car, but the driving dynamics and minor aesthetics that define its experience just aren’t there.

    T-Mobile was smart to not release this phone as I saw the 1st Nuron and honestly thought the user experience was underwhelming at best: from a combined hardware and software perspective. If Nokia were to release a multitude of phones based on a broad platform (similar to Samsung’s Galaxy S line), use a powerful operating system such as Android 2.3, improve their marketing efforts, and find an aggressive distributor than Nokia might just have a chance in Europe. They may also penetrate the US market and succeed becoming another HTC. At this point I think this is the only solution for Nokia to survive.

    • PD

      Do you have a N8 ? I don’t think so…First go and get one…explore it..and then comment…then you will understand the full story and also you will understand why Nokia is playing around with Symbian.

      • I had an n8. same story here. great hardware, it looks fancy, but absolutely boring under the hood. Still not impressed even by the “awesome” N8. if the N8 is the best thing Nokia has, I am worried for their future.

      • Windsofchange49

        I don’t want to neither do I have the desire to purchase an N8. I only see the 12 MP camera as advantageous in the interim. However, I own a MyTouch 4G and I consider it to be superior to the N8 in nearly every department: hardware and software. However, if Nokia were to release a dual-core ARM-based handset running Android 2.3, then I might consider selling my MyTouch and purchasing the Nokia handset instead.

  • Windsofchange49

    By the way! A thought came to mind. Wouldn’t it be easier for Nokia to purchase another mobile phone manufacturer? Maybe HTC? Even if Nokia lacks the capital maybe they could approach Intel as both corporations have an ongoing partnership to release and popularize Meego. A combined Nokia/HTC corporation would be a powerhouse combining Intel hardware, Nokia’s experience in the mobile market, along with HTCs design and marketing expertise.

    • it would be easier, if they actually had the capital, and if they were actually doing BETTER than HTC, then I could see it happening. Lets be real: Nokia has really solid, impressive HARDWARE. but their Software i.e. Operating systems and apps put everyone to sleep. Perhaps they could COLLABORATE with HTC or ANdroid on a new product. One with the awesome hardware of Nokia but running software that is actually pertinent to today’s mobile consumers. Sorry Nokia, but you are just awful in the U.S. Maybe you are king in your part of the world but its time to do something BIG to keep your american fans.

  • Windsofchange49

    By the way! A thought came to mind. Wouldn’t it be easier for Nokia to purchase another mobile phone manufacturer? Maybe HTC? Even if Nokia lacks the capital maybe they could approach Intel as both corporations have an ongoing partnership to release and popularize Meego. A combined Nokia/HTC corporation would be a powerhouse combining Intel hardware, Nokia’s experience in the mobile market, along with HTCs design and marketing expertise.

  • Windsofchange49

    By the way! A thought came to mind. Wouldn’t it be easier for Nokia to purchase another mobile phone manufacturer? Maybe HTC? Even if Nokia lacks the capital maybe they could approach Intel as both corporations have an ongoing partnership to release and popularize Meego. A combined Nokia/HTC corporation would be a powerhouse combining Intel hardware, Nokia’s experience in the mobile market, along with HTCs design and marketing expertise.

  • Anonymous

    I have the Nuron, and it’s an ok phone for what it is. I would have liked to have seen Nokia follow it up with something a bit better, so this news is somewhat of a disappointment to me.

  • dstewstar

    The Nokia Nuron is not that bad of a device. I bought one for my thirteen year old daughter and she loves it. I set it up and it was a learning curve for me because I have an android device, but for her it is a touchscreen device…a step up from the Gravity 3. I know on sites like this it is all about the latest 27 megapixel, 6″ touchscreen, 2.4 ghz dual processor, with the super optical FFC and the fantastical super-duper Amoled display. But, the majority of T-Mobile customers do not care about those type of specs nor will they pay $500 plus for a phone.

  • Demonchylde

    The problem with continuing the Nuron line, in my opinion, is T-mobile got rid of what made the Nuron such a value in the first place… It was an inexpensive phone with many smart-phone features (gps, app store, 3G data, etc) but what made it a good value was it used the cheap 10 dollar unlimited web… which sadly has now gone the way of the dinosaur.. What’s the point in buying a nuron now? If you’re going to have to pay for top-end data, you might as well buy a top-end phone…

    • dstewstar

      You are right ….they basically killed the overall good value of the phone by doing that.

    • doxiechic1

      completely agree….i still have my web2go and its all i need for a phone…they tried to sell me all these diff “200mb only” data plans and i dont want that. im fine with my unlimited/$10 a month web2go…..tmobile really needs to bring it back because they are losing customers who do not want/ need a smartphone

    • doxiechic1

      completely agree….i still have my web2go and its all i need for a phone…they tried to sell me all these diff “200mb only” data plans and i dont want that. im fine with my unlimited/$10 a month web2go…..tmobile really needs to bring it back because they are losing customers who do not want/ need a smartphone

    • Windsofchange49

      I would say the G1 was a much better phone on my opinion, and at the time when the Nuron was released it was inexpensive.

  • the original nuron is a great device for someone who doesnt necessarily need all the features of a smartphone. But I am not surprised they cancelled the nuron 2. Theres probably not a whole lot they could improve on without making it an actual smartphone the second time around. I actually feel pretty bad for Nokia. I remember when cell phones started going mainstream, Nokia was king. It was basically 60% of the entire market. How times have changed. You couldnt PAY me to use a nokia device. Not in the age of Android and iOS. Even though I am bored and unimpressed by iOS, I would still use it over Nokia’s operating system. Meego or Symbian, whatever. Both boring. so who cares

  • the original nuron is a great device for someone who doesnt necessarily need all the features of a smartphone. But I am not surprised they cancelled the nuron 2. Theres probably not a whole lot they could improve on without making it an actual smartphone the second time around. I actually feel pretty bad for Nokia. I remember when cell phones started going mainstream, Nokia was king. It was basically 60% of the entire market. How times have changed. You couldnt PAY me to use a nokia device. Not in the age of Android and iOS. Even though I am bored and unimpressed by iOS, I would still use it over Nokia’s operating system. Meego or Symbian, whatever. Both boring. so who cares

    • Windsofchange49

      My 2nd smartphone after my Blackberry Curve 8320 was the HTC G1. That handset is over three years old and even with the release of the Nuron was a million times superior. As to users not necessarily needing the types of features offered by a smartphone, well what are they? 1) the ability to tether with other mobile devices; 2) creating a wifi hotspot; 3) application download capability; 4) smart mobile operating system? Nowadays these features are offered on a limited basis in various messaging phones offered by all the carriers.

      If I were someone who wanted a phone more advanced than an introductory handset, I would opt for a messaging device offered by companies such as Pantech and Samsung. I’ve tried out the Nuron and it is dreadfully slow when it comes to loading webpages, and in general the speed of its UI is underwhelming at best. I have even found the UI experience on the N97 to be of similar concern. Furthermore, let me ask you guys something. You claim that Nokia phones (while offering shoddy software) are great in the hardware department. Why doesn’t the latest N8 offer a CPU spec’d to be the equivalent (minimal requirements) of a 1st generation Snapdragon found in the Nexus One? If I am going to have to pay $400+ for a Nokia smartphone I’m going to want decent hardware. And with the lack of a CPU that can keep pace with those found in today’s smartphones I just don’t find the whole “unbelievable hardware” story to work.

      Nokia needs to reconsider the combined hardware and software experience it offers, and honestly I don’t see their internal R&D teams delivering on those promises. It would just be easier for them to buy another manufacturer of phones that is a little more creative; this act would save Nokia a lot more time and money in the future; and honestly time isn’t a luxury that Nokia has right now.

  • GregP

    The N900 was excellent – kinda

    • My N900’s running Android right now…

  • Anonymous

    so in a nutshell create an android phone??

  • Anonymous

    so in a nutshell create an android phone??

  • Lee72artis

    T-mobileUSA, Google, HTC, Samsung, Motorola, LG, Sony, and Nokia should get together and build a Google phone called the Borg. It could have dual layer screen (to use ambient sunlight as a power source and display), dedicated sound card, upgradable components, and all the best each company coyld offer.