Samsung And HTC Comment On Gingerbread Update Plans

Following the announcement of Android OS 2.3 (aka Gingerbread) and the Google Nexus S, many T-Mobile subscribers have been wondering when or if they will receive Gingerbread 2.3 update on their Android phones.  An HTC spokesperson today announced that HTC will update some of its handsets to the new Android 2.3 OS, although the spokesperson did not specify when or which handsets would get the update.

Samsung, on the other hand, didn’t seem so assuring.  Here’s Samsung’s official statement on a future Android OS 2.3 update for the Galaxy S line:

“In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system (“Update”). Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors. If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development.”

Basically, Samsung is still deciding whether or not the Galaxy S handsets will receive an update to “Gingerbread”.  The Samsung Vibrant definitely seems capable of running Android 2.3 as the Nexus S (which ships with OS 2.3 pre-installed), basically has the same exact specs (screen, processor, etc.).  As a Vibrant owner myself, this doesn’t make me happy at all.  We’ve still yet to receive our promised Android 2.2 (Froyo) update and the future isn’t looking too bright for a Gingerbread update.

What say you?

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  • You bought a Samsung Android device and thought you were gonna get updates….Hahahahaha

    • Deb

      I will just refer you to the Moto Cliq update forum… lol

    • Deb

      I will just refer you to the Moto Cliq update forum… lol

    • Deb

      I will just refer you to the Moto Cliq update forum… lol

    • ihatefanboys

      yes laugh at them, they deserve it, lol

  • You bought a Samsung Android device and thought you were gonna get updates….Hahahahaha

  • JustMike

    Is Samsung’s statement specifically talking about Galaxy S or all their Android handsets in general? The statement seems really generic to me – there are plenty of older Samsung android phones that are not capable of running Gingerbread, but they’d be shooting themselves in the foot if they don’t update the popularGalaxy S line to 2.3

    I guess it doesn’t matter a whole lot though, I’m sure XDA will have 2.3 running on the Vibrant pretty soon after the Nexus S is released anyway.

  • mike

    Who cares? Cyanogenmod pwns stock Android. Rocking it on the G2.

  • MW

    Android is a new operating system that is growing by leaps and bounds every couple of months adding new capabilities for the user experience and enjoyment. There would be nothing worse then having a phone and the vendor (Samsung) deciding they are not going put the same level of effort into the phone and the user experience. My next phone will be a dual core phone; FFC; 4 or 4.3 inch screen, 4G (or something like it); GingerBread. Was strongly considering the Galaxy S2, but if Samsung is not going to support their products, guess I will have to stick with somebody who will.

  • Macbfac

    This is BOGUS!! I read the comments concerning Samsung and their lack of updates before, but I thought I’d give them a chance since there was sooo much hype about the Galaxy S series. I know rooting is an option, but I shouldn’t have to root my phone for an update that I should have had access to already and for an update that should have been in the near future(concerning Android 2.3). I have nothing positive to say about Samsung to anyone at the moment.

  • Kickstar I’m with you. I’ve got the MTS 3G and I’m still waiting for the damn 2.2 update.

    • you still dont have it even my sister has 2.2.1 and she has the first mytouch

  • winmoalso

    What about the Tab? Anyone think the Galaxy Tab will get an update to Gingerbread?

    • Anonymous

      No…..more like honeycomb!

  • All we can do is hope we get it. Complaining is not going to do anything…be patient. It will pay off…

  • guest

    Never buying samsung again

    • Petey

      I was going to post the same exact words… Vibrant is probably going to be my last samsung phone. :/

    • Petey

      I was going to post the same exact words… Vibrant is probably going to be my last samsung phone. :/

    • Petey

      I was going to post the same exact words… Vibrant is probably going to be my last samsung phone. :/

    • Dbaby

      If you’re not content with the way the phone operates with the stock os version, why buy it in the first place? So sick of users thinking they’re entitled to the latest release of Android. Rather than never buying samsung again, how about you save us the whining and just don’t buy another cell phone again?

    • Dbaby

      If you’re not content with the way the phone operates with the stock os version, why buy it in the first place? So sick of users thinking they’re entitled to the latest release of Android. Rather than never buying samsung again, how about you save us the whining and just don’t buy another cell phone again?

  • Rob

    This is why I’m getting the Nexus S, no need to worry about this bullshit. One would think HTC would talk about the G2 here. Doesnt seem to be as vanilla as I thought.

  • Htyoung

    I’ve been told to just leave instead of complaining. I’m thinking wait until the spring and grab whatever the most advanced new phone is, as long as it’s on T-mo or Sprint. Ah, the benefits of staying off contract. Leave when you want, no penalty.

  • Htyoung

    I’ve been told to just leave instead of complaining. I’m thinking wait until the spring and grab whatever the most advanced new phone is, as long as it’s on T-mo or Sprint. Ah, the benefits of staying off contract. Leave when you want, no penalty.

  • The Observer

    i dont even know why yall still went with samsung after the behold 2 thing

    • omg i hated the behold 2 so badly lol and i didn’t pick that phone my behold one broke and that was what they sent me i ended up rooting it to 2.1 and used panda home to get rid of touchwiz UI and it was still a bad phone

    • omg i hated the behold 2 so badly lol and i didn’t pick that phone my behold one broke and that was what they sent me i ended up rooting it to 2.1 and used panda home to get rid of touchwiz UI and it was still a bad phone

      • Nobody ever released 2.1 android for the behold 2. I don’t think you have ever owned the device based on that fact.

        • actually i did i had both the behold 1 and 2 because when my behold 1 charger port broke they sent me a refurbished behold 2 with 1.5 and it sucked so i had my friend put 2.1 at least when i went into settings it said 2.1 and it had the 2.1 market but it made it over heat

        • Well your friend lied to you because the only update the behold 2 got working was 1.6 android because there were NO correct drivers for the Android 2.1 port. If you did own the Behold 2 and rooted the most you got was 1.6 Android. I know this because the only developer known to put in work on the behold 2 was Eugene_373 aka BH_Man and he NEVER was able to get a Android 2.1 port working on the Behold 2 because of the lack of correct drivers to make it work.

        • Landrickrs

          it’s called rooting buddy.

        • Hey buddy I actually owned the device and the only dev to work on the Behold 2 aka BH_Man aka Eugene

          NEVER released a working port of Android 2.1 due to missing drivers.

        • I second that there’s no 2.1 for the Behold II. The customs ROMs use Advanced Launcher, so it looks like 2.1, but it’s 1.6. Samsung has the damn drivers so interviewed with TouchWiz that the person that got plain 1.6 working off a regular Galaxy ROM got everything working but the vibrate function.

          If there was androidforums would be all over it…

        • I second that there’s no 2.1 for the Behold II. The customs ROMs use Advanced Launcher, so it looks like 2.1, but it’s 1.6. Samsung has the damn drivers so interviewed with TouchWiz that the person that got plain 1.6 working off a regular Galaxy ROM got everything working but the vibrate function.

          If there was androidforums would be all over it…

        • I second that there’s no 2.1 for the Behold II. The customs ROMs use Advanced Launcher, so it looks like 2.1, but it’s 1.6. Samsung has the damn drivers so interviewed with TouchWiz that the person that got plain 1.6 working off a regular Galaxy ROM got everything working but the vibrate function.

          If there was androidforums would be all over it…

    • omg i hated the behold 2 so badly lol and i didn’t pick that phone my behold one broke and that was what they sent me i ended up rooting it to 2.1 and used panda home to get rid of touchwiz UI and it was still a bad phone

    • Derrickps3

      i actually won the behold 2 in that samsung giveaway back in 2009, and i will never own another samsung phone again after the betrayal of all the BH2 owners

      • The Observer

        yea i won the behold 2 also, and i also ended up winnin the ledtv in that contest also which kept me happy lol. but yea, after that behold 2 thing, i swore off samsung phones

        • Lucky, I wish I had won that TV but all I got was the phone but with android 1.6 on it I must say it wasn’t as bad as you guys are making it out to be yes ah damn they didn’t update it but still it was a fun device.

    • Exactly! After getting the G1, I sat back and heard all the problems with the Samsung phone and updates. I did get the Vibrant. After a few hours I came to my senses and returned it the very next day…and have never looked back!
      Thankfully T-Mobile released the HTC G2!

  • The Observer

    i dont even know why yall still went with samsung after the behold 2 thing

  • hey, David if the MT4G gets the 2.3 update Will i loss “my Sense UI”?

  • hey, David if the MT4G gets the 2.3 update Will i loss “my Sense UI”?

    • The Observer

      you wouldnt lose it if you get the 2.3 official update. but it will take longer for mt4g users to get the 2.3 others because of development with 2.3 and sense

  • hey, David if the MT4G gets the 2.3 update Will i loss “my Sense UI”?

  • Chris

    If the Vibrant is indeed very close to the Nexus S in hardware spec, I’d be upset if there was no Gingerbread for Vibrant. Hopefully the ROM builders out there will keep us up to date. It would be a shame to let a nice hardware platform fade into obsolescence less than a year after introduction with another year remaining on contract.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think it’s an issue of hardware, but more compatibility of the TouchWiz UI with the updated OS.

      • Being a Linux kernel, Android operates on the EXT file system. I have a sneaking suspicion that Samsung decided to use EXT2 instead of 3 or even 4.

        • Anonymous

          That would be nice, since all the lag fixes make that change to EXT2. Maybe they’re learning a thing or two from the XDA developers!

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think it’s an issue of hardware, but more compatibility of the TouchWiz UI with the updated OS.

  • Aaron Von Gauss

    What say I? I say, David, you were right. There, I said, Samsung post-sale support is dismal at best.

    • Anonymous

      David isn’t the author of this article, Kickstar is.

  • Zach

    I say custom roms ftw.

  • GT

    Let’s hope Samsung doesn’t do what Moto has done to us, give us a phone that won’t be upgraded properly.

  • I’m a Vibrant user and I’m pretty frustrated with this phone. Its very annoying that there is such an amazing piece of hardware but its got serious software problems with gps and general lag. I don’t understand why, as the article states, Samsung can’t release Gingerbread on the Vibrant if its the same thing as the Nexus S.

    • Petey

      I agree, my vibrant lags badly as well… :/

    • If you want you can install froyo on it but you will have to root to do so.

    • Anonymous

      I’m running the most recent froyo leak and it’s very smooth. There are no custom mods on this release so if this is any indication, froyo will help the laggyness out quite a bit.

  • I’m a Vibrant user and I’m pretty frustrated with this phone. Its very annoying that there is such an amazing piece of hardware but its got serious software problems with gps and general lag. I don’t understand why, as the article states, Samsung can’t release Gingerbread on the Vibrant if its the same thing as the Nexus S.

  • Derrickps3

    lol samsung…………..after owning the behold 2, i am not suprised of their statement, they treat their devices like a step child when it comes to OS updates. i will never forget when they screwed all the bh2 owners out of getting 2.x update. screw samsung

  • Anonymous

    Samsung is known for their rather unfavorable track record when it comes to updating their devices. Why I got the Vibrant when I did, I have no idea because I knew this is what it will come down to. My next device will be a NexusOne-like phone that will feature a pure, un-tampered Android operating system– instead of an Android phone that features manufacturer in-house UI crap over the o/s.

    • ihatefanboys

      G2 G2 G2, lol

  • Michaelk706

    So it sounds as though I am done with Motorola products because of the Cliq fiasco, and now Samsung, next Tmobile..cause I’ve been calling tech support and they haven’t been able to answer my question, or fix my wife’s vibrant that came out the box from retail messed up..

    • Warranty exchange.

    • Warranty exchange.

    • ihatefanboys

      one day one of u whiners will explain to me why u dont take a defective phone back and get a new one, but keep it then whine about how they wont fix it. my first G2 was defective, i brought it back the same day, got a new one and its been fine since. dont cry to the world because both u and your wife are stupid. “”””waaaa my phone keeps freezing and rebooting and cursing at me, never worked from day one and tmobile wont help me” im sick of comments like these, if u got a bad phone, kept it, then u dont have the right to complain.

      • Anthony

        That makes sense.

        Now way could anyone be having problems after the return policy. That would be just crazy. I’m still a BB Curve 8900 user since I have until March for an upgrade, but I did get my fiance the Vibrant. We obviously had an issue with the GPS at the beginning, but held out because of the promise of a fix. That’s actually working great now. However, the phone freezes constantly on her when making a call the past few weeks. I chalked it up to her being a moron with technology, but the same thing happened to me last night.

        I’m going to have to call TMobile, but I can’t expect them to do anything about it. And I certainly don’t expect to pay a deductible for a 3 month old phone where multiple people are having the same issue.

        Finally, don’t be afraid to use your shift key. It really doesn’t add any additional time to your post and the lack of using it just makes you come off like a high-school dropout who works for TMobile.

        • Your sarcastic comment was a fail its not using the return policy you can either call up t-mobile or samsung and get it replaced with a functioning one. You don’t only have the return policy to do it, you have athing called a 1 year warranty from the manufacturer and you have support of t-mobile as long as you are payingyour bill. If you have a defective device go to t-mobile or call up samsungand ask for a replacement, they will give it to you, they have to. Well Samsung has to anyways, t-mobile is just the carrier.

      • EXACTLY! its like peple don’t know how to use a warranty nowadays. I mean every device comes standard with 1 year warranty from the manufacturers if you ever get a defective device. Why the hell don’t people use it?

      • Michaelk706

        shutup seriously..That’s the issue I am having is trying to return my phone. I do have a warranty, it people like you who whine about what people say, that I can’t stand. I’ve already been sent a new phone from tmobile twice and they still do not want to give me a different phone, so make sure you ask a question before assuming…SO don’t go around thinking you are better than everyone cause you don’t follow the pack, and you want to whine about what people say. I hate people like you. Grow up seriously. Sorry there fan boy, tmobile doesn’t want to give me a different phone or send me a vibrant that doesn’t want to brick itself…gee that must be my fault.

  • Wouldntyouliketoknow

    All I can say is Samsung Galaxy Vibrant 4G coming real soon, like cupid day soon. Don’t expect 2.3 on your vibrant in this decade..

    • smh… source or it didn’t happen.

    • smh… source or it didn’t happen.

      • Manusferrera

        :) xda logcat or it didn’t happen.

    • Anonymous

      WOW so we wont see 2.3 on the Vibrant anywhere between January 1st 2010 and December 31st 2019??

  • Interesting that HTC is keeping their comment, how should I say this, T-Mobile suits safe. Time to visit official T-mob forum.

  • somebody

    thank god nexus s wont be having these issues

    • Yep that is by far the best thing about the Nexus S, it won’t be dependent on the whims of the manufacturer (which has a vested interest in people buying new phones to get new OS features)

      • Dbaby

        I think the best thing about the Nexus S is that it WON’T have a dual-core chip OR hspa+…. I didn’t want those features to begin with, so I breathed a HUGE sigh of relief when they announced, it’s just the old Hummingbird and 3G, baby. Stickin with what works, like a trusty revolver, rather than those new-fangled rail guns… cool.

        • What? Why would you not want HSPA+ or dual-core? Dual-core is more efficient battery-wise than a single core and HSPA+ would allow you to take advantage of T-Mobile’s network upgrades why wouldn’t you want those two things?

    • Yep that is by far the best thing about the Nexus S, it won’t be dependent on the whims of the manufacturer (which has a vested interest in people buying new phones to get new OS features)

  • Ldominguez1986

    And this is the reason I am getting tired of owning an android phone. I am not a big fan of the iPhone but would definitely buy if it came to t-mobile because of all this bullshit. They sell you a phone with a contract that lasts two years and then the phone doesn’t last 1 month before it’s being discarded. At least with apple when there is an update every phone gets it. I have a slide and I am pretty sure I will never see 2.3 on my device ever. I should have bought a nexus one that was I know I would be getting the updates. If people think that there is no android fragmentation then I want some of what they are smoking.

    • ihatefanboys

      G1 got every update it was physically possible of getting, but it was the first android phone and had limited memory, and they had no clue android would take off the way that it has. im confident my G2 will get every update across my whole new 2yr contract….the phone was built for it, and its HTC so im doubly confident….samsung and motorolla just blow…..i coulda got the vibrant but i know of samsungs suckage when it comes to updates…..dont blame t-mo, especially to hype the iphone, obviously its not AT&T getting the iphone updates to users quickly, its apple……same with tmobile, its not them gettin the updates out, its HTC, samsung,, motorollla, etc……HTC phones typically get updates first, they have the least complications from UI skins

      • Ldominguez1986

        I know it’s apple getting the updates out to the iPhone but tmobile has a lot to o when it comes to the delivery of updates to there phones. There is so much stuf tmoible want’s to put on the rom that it’s up to them ultimately when we get the update. I love tmobile because there cc is awesome and the prices are perfect. I would never leave tmobile but I am saying that I would def consider the iPhone if it ever came to tmobile

  • yomama

    I wasn’t going to bother with the vibrant anyway due to the fact I am not a fan of the all touch screen phones. I have the 3G slide, but like everyone anxiously waiting for the 2.2 froyo update. Knowing my luck I won’t receive it until it’s time for 2.3.

    • Anonymous

      It IS time for 2.3 But don’t feel bad cuz God knows when the Vibrant will get 2.2 either. Hey $20 to whoever gets it first!

      • Wasn’t the official 2.2 rom leaked for the vibrant? I believe it was but in any case it wasn’t OTA. Well anywho Bell’s vibrant was updated to 2.2 today I assume our vibrant is but a moment away.

        • Anonymous

          It was leaked on 12/1, I’m currently running it. It’s completely stock (including the bloatware) and it is untouched by the developers (not modded). Quite smooth and functional. Battery lasts WAY longer. Knowing what I know now, it’s really a shame that any manufacturer allows their 2.2 capable phones to run with anything less. My apps that used to force close, run quite smooth now.

  • I don’t like the vague statement by HTC. However, if anything, they’ll more than likely get the 2.3 before any other manufacture

  • Soobiesnacks

    Samsung can suck it.

    • Dbaby

      They won’t suck it… I tried already.

  • Ldominguez1986

    And this is the reason I am getting tired of owning an android phone. I am not a big fan of the iPhone but would definitely buy if it came to t-mobile because of all this bullshit. They sell you a phone with a contract that lasts two years and then the phone doesn’t last 1 month before it’s being discarded. At least with apple when there is an update every phone gets it. I have a slide and I am pretty sure I will never see 2.3 on my device ever. I should have bought a nexus one that was I know I would be getting the updates. If people think that there is no android fragmentation then I want some of what they are smoking.

    • Anonymous

      “At least with apple when there is an update every phone gets it.” Yeah all two of them. The first iPhones are the same phone with a couple different perks. The iPhone 4 is a truely different phone. There are dozens of different shaped and spec’d Android phones out to choose from. As of right now there are TWO different iPhones to choose from right now and all the iOS Fans have ZERO other choice when it comes to shapes and sizes of a phone. I aint mad at you about iPhone having a much better update process but thats like saying I made EVERY SINGLE one of my shots during my basketball game when I only shot twice and they were both free throws.

      • Ldominguez1986

        That makes no sense. What I am saying is that I don’t want to have to buy a new phone every three months because there is no chance for updates. I don’t have 500-600 dollars to be spending on phones 2-3 times a year. Maybe you do but I don’t. I am just stating that at least with the choice of an iPhone that I am pretty sure I would receive an update and not have to worry which one of the hundred different versions are or are not going to get updated.

        • Anonymous

          You don’t need to buy a new phone. Does your phone do everything that it did when you bought it? If yes then I would say that there is no need for an update. Why does everyone have to be on the newest version? What will 2.2 add to your current phone? I have tried the Slide and the MyTouch 4G and I see almost no difference in the interface (other than CPU speed increase), and I do know that apps2sd would be great for the Slide due to the limited ROM space. With 2.3 being an even smaller change, what do you seek to gain with a 2.3 update? I am truly curious not trying to start a fight.

        • Ldominguez1986

          I see what your saying. But you purchase a phone and when they tell you that it will def see future updates it kinda helps you decide on that phone. I am not saying that updates are the number one thing that sway me to one phone but it’s nice to know that your phone is capable of more than what it was when you purchased it. I get pissed because you are promised something and then it never happens or it’s usually too little too late.

        • k-mack

          I hear you. bottom line, expect the updates to come less frequently when it’s non Tmobile branded and when it’s not stock/vanilla android. that’s it. the updates for the G2, Nexus One come as fast as they are available. I’m sure it will be the same for the Nexus S.

        • Anonymous

          Dude, CPU speed increase is NOTHING to balk at! Your phone will run more smooth, less laggy, and apps wont force close as much.

  • Vibrant Addict

    Wow that will be the nail in the coffin for my Samsung, Google, and I love triangle. I’m going to have to go for a Nexus device then and let Google take care of updates for me. These manufacturers SUCK.

  • TreeFrogs

    I wish that Samsung would realize what a mess they’ve made of a great product. You would think that they had learned their lesson after the whole Behold 2 debacle. There is not a single part of touchwiz that appeals to me. The Vibrant with pure android would be a perfect device. Thanks Samsung for screwing the pooch, again.

  • Dbaby

    Um, do you guys ever wonder if this Android stuff is all one big government conspiracy?? Cuz like, hear me out: I’ve been triangulating every release on my trusty 2010 Hello Kitty Calendar since Donut came out and mysteriously this “Gingerbread” is coming out just in time for the holidays… DON’T YOU SEE IT?!! Coincidence? I say nay. Obama must be behind this – every Android release is one of his favorite desserts. My sources tell me he LOVES gingerbread… and black gingers, like Blake Griffin.

    • jcj

      sorry but Obama isn’t smart enough to fight out of a paper bag, let alone schedule android updates.

      • Obama is definitely smarter than you and bush thats for sure. Now lets not get all political on a f**king device.

    • LOL what? thats absurd.

    • LOL what? thats absurd.

  • SeaTown

    I will never buy a Samsung phone…Ever…Period. I used to have a Vibrant, but decided to switch to a MT4G. I saw the writing on the wall then, and haven’t looked back. They have a track record of not supporting their products out of the box.

  • TomThumb

    Was a Samsung Vibrant advocate! Great phone, but Samsung’s willful decision to NOT support it as described. HTC MYTOUCH 4G is the way to go!!! HTC supports their devices and Keeps them up to date. Samsung Missed their chance

    • Ldominguez1986

      Yeah, I hear ya. But wait till you have to wait a year for the update to come out for your phone and then honeycomb comes out and the mt4g will never see it. Just look at the track record for any android tmobile has. I love tmobile but they suck at updating there phones. Verizon phones get the updates why cant we

    • Ldominguez1986

      Yeah, I hear ya. But wait till you have to wait a year for the update to come out for your phone and then honeycomb comes out and the mt4g will never see it. Just look at the track record for any android tmobile has. I love tmobile but they suck at updating there phones. Verizon phones get the updates why cant we

    • Ldominguez1986

      Yeah, I hear ya. But wait till you have to wait a year for the update to come out for your phone and then honeycomb comes out and the mt4g will never see it. Just look at the track record for any android tmobile has. I love tmobile but they suck at updating there phones. Verizon phones get the updates why cant we

    • wait, you’re surprised by that?
      this is the third phone in a row they’ve done that with.
      that’s why I went with the mytouch 4g.
      and why I don’t regret going with that over the nexus s

    • Getboxman

      Lets not forget how HTC left the G1 folks hanging with the lack of space for 2.0. It doesn’t touch Samsung screw ups, but that really sucked for people that were supporting Android from the get go!

      • greg

        htc has no way of knowing what specs would be necessary to run eclair, which was released over a year after the g1. the g1 was quick to update to cupcake and donut, give credit where credit is due. and @jcj, t-mobile isn’t completely to blame but it is partly up to the carrier to assist with updates. i love t-mobile but isn’t it strange that sprint and verizon gets updates on their phones much faster and more frequent than t-mobile? (see motorola cliq-released 3Q 2009, promised 2.1 1Q 2010, received 2.1 3Q 2010)

  • Shaithis01

    …and we all know T-Mobile has been so forthcoming with Android updates for T-Mobile branded handsets right? Right?

    • jcj

      why would a carrier update a phone software? they just sell the phones, manufacturers update software. does your car mechanic upgrade your PC, I hope not. I love how people expect everything to be given to them just cause they want it, maybe things are being tested and they found problems and are working to fix them. PATIENCE people

      • Avanderbilt25

        The carriers are responsible because they put their programs and features in updates as well. This is how the process works. Android releases update to the public then manufacturer programs update to work with its specialized user interface and any programs it wants to push then the carrier gets its hands on it to add programs and features it wants to push and make sure it is working properly on the network. When it comes to updates for any phone on any carrier except a nexus device the last hurdle is always the carrier.

      • I don’t buy my PC with a two year fixed contract with termination fees. Dell also doesn’t put a bunch blocks in the way preventing me from installing Linux on my PC either. If the vendors took a different attitude about the phones and made them more accessible then it wouldn’t be a problem.

      • Manufacturers update the device but its the carriers job to send that update OTA because people are to lazy to update manually and/or too scared to.

    • k-mack

      ah, yes. i had my G2 about 2 weeks and already received an update. it’s safe to say that the branded phones will get more support when T-Mobile has a say in it.

  • TmoJody

    I’ve had 2.2 on my vibrant (unofficially) for about 2 months now. It runs flawlessly! and very zippy. Screw waiting around for updates.

    • Joepenora

      is there an easy way to put 2.2 on my vibrant? i’be been googling how to do it, and I’m getting this rom or that rom, I just want to have what google would release. thanks

    • Anonymous

      I hear ya. I tried real hard to wait for the official 2.2 but the end of Nov was my cut off. My vibrant is now free from the shackles of Tmobile and chillin with the likes of XDA and Team Whiskey. Vibrant still FTW!!

  • Sadsamsung

    it’s hard being a Vibrant owner… :-( such a good phone, but barely any support. And if they do help us it’s late or with a botched update.

  • Blk_mile

    Is the screen the same as the Vibrant as in Super AMOLED? Also does anyone know if it has a dedicated camera button

  • Blk_mile

    NM, it says Super AMOLED … to bad it’s not “4G” compatible

  • The Trendaholic

    Even though I’ve rooted my Vibrant and have been running Froyo, I must say that because of this blatant care free attitude Samsung has shown to it’s customers in regards to upgrading their flagship phone makes me no longer trust Sumsung and my next device will most likely not be a Samsung handset.

    • Getboxman

      Same here. This is rather annoying. I had to root my phone just to get Froyo. I think it sucks more, because I really like my phone. I think they did a great job with it. But doesn’t give me much hope for the future handsets when they shipped this phone out with know GPS issues. It took months for them to fix it. And still no official Froyo!

  • Wilma Flintstone

    I say you should’nt have bought the Vibrant expecting lots of updates.

  • mr.atx512

    very disappointed in the supposedly “laser focused” new UI, changes are very minimal and Android still looks like it was created in the show Monster Garage. when you go to the Gallery app it looks like you’re visiting a different OS, and the story repeats again with every other native application. it’s like the people at Google started taking parts or ideas and half assed them together and never even bothered to really integrate them and make the whole thing look like the same OS throughout. and please Google, start putting some damn colors in there and give us good looking icons damn it, I hate all those orange outlines and yellow bars, they look crappier than crap itself. oh well, let’s hope ‘honeycomb’ really brings a new UI that actually looks good.

  • Swoosh
  • Anonymous

    There is an article on another site saying Samsung will update the galaxy s and tab. Can’t remember what site, but I think the statement was from their Indian division.

  • Anonymous

    Fragmentation alive and well….

    Stay thirsty my friends!

  • TMoFan

    Now that I’m shopping around for a smartphone I’ve been looking at the Vibrant but the one thing that’s holding me back in the lack of any future update(s). Samsung needs to step up support their hardware if they want their hardware to be taken seriously.

  • I’ve been very disappointed in Samsung for not updating my GalaxyS to Froyo. Now that Froyo is late enough to warrant being skipped for Gingerbread – and *that* is still only a consideration? My next Android phone is going to be made by a manufacturer that can keep me up to date.

    Samsung is at the bottom of the pile unless I am proven otherwise.

    • Joepenora

      Stay away from Moto also. I’m ditched my Moto Cliq for not getting updates to being a first adopter of the Vibrant. Although I love my phone, its probably my most favorite phone I’ve ever had. But the TouchWiz and the lack of updates is driving me nuts.

      my next phone in a year or so will probably be one that google puts out themselves. (no point of getting a Nexus S for me right now since its a modified Vibrant.

    • Tcontento

      root the phone, it is very very easy and it will get you froyo…. I did and love it, im sure someone will do the same for getting us 2.3////

      • meanmcclena

        As the Nexus S and Vibrant/(other Galaxy variants are identical), I am sure a true port of 2.3 will hit the streets shortly after the official launch of the S. This is beneficial as we should be privy to updates from Google from this point forward Axing T-Mobile and their slow updating A$$es out of the picture. Honestly Samsung has been decent with getting 2.2 out in the wild, I’ve been on a variation of the UK rom for some time now and as of Nov 30 an official build was released. It’s out there, we are waiting for T-Mobile to remove functionality and add their Bloatware back to the package. I would love to buy a Nexus S but since my Vibrant is the same phone I can live with XDA mods till a dual core update is avail.

    • CactusCat

      Bill, its not Sammy holding back the updates. Its Tmobile… they have to release the update after they’ve tested it. Tmobile is what is holding up the update. Samsung released the 2.2 update to the carriers quite a while back. 2.2 is being used to update phones in several places around the world, but the USA is not one of them. So, don’t blame Samsung for this dilemma. It’s not their fault.

  • Jdoza87

    NEED YOUR HELP TMONEWS!! Should I get the mytouch 4g or the nexus S?

    • I’m trying to deide that too

      • there both really good phone just i got the MT4G at that bogo sale thing and its a really good phone its fast but the nexus S is googles baby so it will be the first to get all the updates. the one big draw is it doesn’t has hspa+ but if that doesn’t matter to you then i would go with the Nexus S so you get the updates on time and don’t worry about the lack of SD thing because unless you use your phone for music it has all the memory you need

  • Jdoza87

    NEED YOUR HELP TMONEWS!! Should I get the mytouch 4g or the nexus S?

  • Ant

    Looks like Sammy should stick to manufacturing parts, screens, processors, etc, to sell to other companies that know what they are doing.

  • Dk17

    what is the main difference between 2.2 and android 2.3??

  • NokiaN900User

    This is the only reason I am getting the Nexus S over mytouch 4G or vibrant. Updates are pushed out by google to the nexus phones. I think this is one problem android has; fragmentation caused by different manufacturers. If rumors are true, expect only froyo update for galaxy phones. Rumors have Samsung working on the dual core galaxy 2 which has dual core and non vanilla android. Phone looks a lot like iphone 4 BTW.
    I am definitely getting the Nexus S now.

    • I know what you are talking about and btw that was a mockup. it wasn’t an actual picture of the device itself.

    • Tcontento

      depends on your end needs and what service area you can get….. if you want the hspa+ or not, wifi calling…. both have video calling, and if you are anal about updates…… Im sure the Nexus will be getting honeycomb to….

      • Anonymous

        honey comb is for tablets only but we will see if I’m wrong

        • JaeChng

          Honey comb is not tablet-only. It will be the next android release with tablet/handset scalability. This will allow users to have a more tablet oriented UI whilst using a large display device. Honeycomb will retain its phone oriented ui on smaller devices 4.3 in and below.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    What’s with posting eBay prices as if that accurately reflects the value of handsets? You say “prices” so that’s TMoNews saying $325 is the average price of the Vibrant. What a bunch of misleading BS.

    The Vibrant sells for more than what you have listed, from about $380 to $470.

    That person you are endorsing, selling it for $325, has horrible feedback and looking at it reveals that many, many people have left negative feedbacks because the phones he is selling were in horrible condition. For example:

    “Phone was abused bad”

    “This phone barely works. It turns itself off literally every 5 minutes.”

    “Phone was not usable. I had to pay return shipping.”

    “Phone stopped working after 2 weeks. Tried to fix it but unable.”

    “Flawed phone. Ear piece and ring randomly stop working.”

    “The phone wouldn’t even work. Any return? You aren’t replying to e-mails.”

    “I have had the phone in my possession for 48 hours, it’s broken already.”

    “Never responds to e-mails for returns; $15 restocking fee on $25 item.”

    This kind of feedback is why his phone won’t sell, except to some sucker who thinks “this time will be different.”

    You really shouldn’t be posting this stuff. It has the appearance that you are recommending the seller. Maybe you know the seller and that’s why you are linking to his sale.

    If you want to post a barometer of how the much the Vibrant sells for, do a search of completed eBay auctions and say to sort by highest price first. The auctions with green numbers indicates that is what the phone sold for. In red means it did not sell.

    A search using that method indicated the Vibrant selling for on average about $425, used. While numbers can be debated, this proves that “prices” for the Vibrant, as reported on TMoNews are not $325.

    • It’s a partnership program with eBay, which is being used by countless websites across the web. These things pay the bills around here, I don’t pick and choose which phones are placed on there, I only select which model is chosen which is typically the subject of the post. I can’t be responsible for which phones eBay is putting front and center though I assume its a random generator that’s responsible for it. I am in no way shape or form endorsing any phone or device on there. Hopefully most of the eBay listings which come up will be responsible people selling a perfectly reliable product, bad seeds exist. It’s simply a plugin that’s generating it.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    Well here the Samsung Galaxy S is being officially updated. Not sure why the T-Mobile Vibrant is different. Also, aren’t other U.S. versions of the Samsung Galaxy S officially getting 2.2? I thought I read that somewhere.

    So it seems like this is not a technology thing, since the Samsung Galaxy S Europe is much the same as the U. S. version.

    This tells me it’s a carrier issue and not anything to do with Samsung, unless everyone, Samsung and U.S. carriers, are conspiring to assure sales of holiday handsets and the Nexus S will be robust.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/official-samsung-galaxy-s-froyo-rollout-starting-europe

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    I can see this taking some time because T-Mobile US is known for dragging its feet with updates.

    First T-Mobile has to work with Samsung to make the software work to T-Mobile’s specifications, meaning no front facing camera feature like the i9000 has in Europe. There’s also the bloatware that T-Mobile wants included, I am sure.

    Second, T-Mobile then has to test the software to make sure it works. While you can validly say that should not be an issue because Europeans are getting FroYo on their i9000, Samsung Galaxy S, the U.S. versions don’t have the same features, so the software has to address this, no FFC, no FM radio, etc.

    So my opinion is that T-Mobile is causing delay, not Samsung. If you look at things, Samsung has been rolling out 2.2 to the i9000, so why wouldn’t it do so for the U.S.? It has to be a carrier issue.

    Feel free to differ. I really don’t know about any of this, I’m just guessing out loud.

    • Vaughanjunk3

      Really the only people that care about new os’s are power users.. most powerusers I know already have galaxyS 2.2 via xda-developers. If samsung was smart they’d harness all that free labor.. just build a functional kernel and give to xda.. and let them run with it.. whammo .. 2.3 for the community.

      Most of the people I know bought the galaxy s becuase of how root-able / mod-able it is… if samsung nutures that they can really build the brand!…

      • Samwoo2go

        ya ok and risk releasing an offical samsung/tmobile os update with a backdoor? great plan there.

        I am fucking pissed for the following reasons.
        I get shitty reception at my house, so I want wi-fi calling. That makes me want to switch to the G2 from Vibrant. Also G2 is a bit faster that also makes me want to switch to G2. Also I want native flash support, that again makes me want to go with G2. However I do like the Vibrant as a whole more if it had those things but Im not sure that its slower and no wi-fi calling because it runs on 2.1 and not 2.2 or it’s actually a phone issue. And I nor anyone else will know until official 2.2 update don’t come out. Because I dun want to make the switch now and a week later, the update comes out and boom vibrant is faster than G2 on 2.2 because processor is faster. That would be ghey

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    I can see this taking some time because T-Mobile US is known for dragging its feet with updates.

    First T-Mobile has to work with Samsung to make the software work to T-Mobile’s specifications, meaning no front facing camera feature like the i9000 has in Europe. There’s also the bloatware that T-Mobile wants included, I am sure.

    Second, T-Mobile then has to test the software to make sure it works. While you can validly say that should not be an issue because Europeans are getting FroYo on their i9000, Samsung Galaxy S, the U.S. versions don’t have the same features, so the software has to address this, no FFC, no FM radio, etc.

    So my opinion is that T-Mobile is causing delay, not Samsung. If you look at things, Samsung has been rolling out 2.2 to the i9000, so why wouldn’t it do so for the U.S.? It has to be a carrier issue.

    Feel free to differ. I really don’t know about any of this, I’m just guessing out loud.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    I can see this taking some time because T-Mobile US is known for dragging its feet with updates.

    First T-Mobile has to work with Samsung to make the software work to T-Mobile’s specifications, meaning no front facing camera feature like the i9000 has in Europe. There’s also the bloatware that T-Mobile wants included, I am sure.

    Second, T-Mobile then has to test the software to make sure it works. While you can validly say that should not be an issue because Europeans are getting FroYo on their i9000, Samsung Galaxy S, the U.S. versions don’t have the same features, so the software has to address this, no FFC, no FM radio, etc.

    So my opinion is that T-Mobile is causing delay, not Samsung. If you look at things, Samsung has been rolling out 2.2 to the i9000, so why wouldn’t it do so for the U.S.? It has to be a carrier issue.

    Feel free to differ. I really don’t know about any of this, I’m just guessing out loud.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    I can see this taking some time because T-Mobile US is known for dragging its feet with updates.

    First T-Mobile has to work with Samsung to make the software work to T-Mobile’s specifications, meaning no front facing camera feature like the i9000 has in Europe. There’s also the bloatware that T-Mobile wants included, I am sure.

    Second, T-Mobile then has to test the software to make sure it works. While you can validly say that should not be an issue because Europeans are getting FroYo on their i9000, Samsung Galaxy S, the U.S. versions don’t have the same features, so the software has to address this, no FFC, no FM radio, etc.

    So my opinion is that T-Mobile is causing delay, not Samsung. If you look at things, Samsung has been rolling out 2.2 to the i9000, so why wouldn’t it do so for the U.S.? It has to be a carrier issue.

    Feel free to differ. I really don’t know about any of this, I’m just guessing out loud.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    I can see this taking some time because T-Mobile US is known for dragging its feet with updates.

    First T-Mobile has to work with Samsung to make the software work to T-Mobile’s specifications, meaning no front facing camera feature like the i9000 has in Europe. There’s also the bloatware that T-Mobile wants included, I am sure.

    Second, T-Mobile then has to test the software to make sure it works. While you can validly say that should not be an issue because Europeans are getting FroYo on their i9000, Samsung Galaxy S, the U.S. versions don’t have the same features, so the software has to address this, no FFC, no FM radio, etc.

    So my opinion is that T-Mobile is causing delay, not Samsung. If you look at things, Samsung has been rolling out 2.2 to the i9000, so why wouldn’t it do so for the U.S.? It has to be a carrier issue.

    Feel free to differ. I really don’t know about any of this, I’m just guessing out loud.

  • Nick

    I’m just waiting for the word with 2.3 and the G2, If the G2 does not get 2.3 I’ll get the Nexus S

    • Anonymous

      its going to get it starting with froyo android became more modular so that it could be updated faster and easier didn’t they say?

  • DH

    I’m already very, very unhappy w Tmo & Samsung that they STILL haven’t released the Froyo update, but to hear that they won’t commit to eventually updating to Gingerbread (because they’re cheap & very short-sighted) makes me absolutely livid! If they do not continute to update (i.e. spend the necessary $ needed to support their products & maintain customer loyalty) the Android OS on the Vibrant, then I will NEVER buy another Samsung product again. Hope that you’re paying attention to your previously loyal customers, Samsung! I have a feeling my next phone will be an HTC product.

    • Anonymous

      the update is already rolling out its just us carries always test, make changes and want different sh!# added and features removed so it takes alot longer then they test the changes they made again then again then they release it

  • DH

    And this ridiculous situation highlights the horrible Android fragmentation problem. I just bought my Vibrant this past July, but it seems that I really should have waited 5 months to buy the Nexus S, which isn’t hampered or encumbered by Touchwiz, AND it has a front facing camera & LED flash.

  • the G2 is a google experience phone so i cant see why the update shouldnt get pushed out around the same time as the nexus one.

  • Chef_Fan

    If this comes as a shock to anybody, I want you to circumcise me with the sharp end of the Vibrants dull battery. Seriously, I don’t want my kids to grow up in a world with you people. Samsung has never stood behind their products before, why are they going to start now? I mean, Christ, there’s no Froyo yet! Don’t hold your breath for it anytime soon either, and I do mean if, Froyo comes out, it will be so botched and late it won’t even be worth it. I just sealed the deal today to sell my Vibrant and I’m buying a Nexus 1 tomorrow. That’s right, a Nexus 1, it’s been out for almost a year and it will be getting Gingerbread. Probably before Samsung figures out Froyo. To paraphrase Kenny Powers, “Samsung, you’re fucking out!”

  • CactusCat

    I feel the pain brothers. I too have the Vibrant and feel somewhat left out. However, I think we should all understand that Samsung is not the culprit of our 2.2-less Vibrants. Sammy released 2.2 quite a while back and the bad boy in this comedy of errors is our Tmo company. They’re the ones responsible for us getting 2.2, not Sammy. They are definitely dragging their feet, but they have to test and test and verify that all the bloatware is working properly. If we could just convince them to put vanilla android on our Vibrants…oh yah, that’s the Nexus S. And one final comment… even though I don’t have good ol’ 2.2 on my Vibrant yet (I do have it on my Nexus One though!!!) I still think the Vibrant is a heck-of-a-phone. I enjoy using it every day, its still really really fast, the screen lag is there of course but not bad, I’ve figured out the battery issues, GPS is good enough, and its just a joy to use and play with every day. Since I experienced the difference between 2.1 and 2.2 on the Nexus, I know what to expect on the upcoming update. Seeing as 2.2 is hitting UK and Canada, I don’t think we’re too far off now.

  • what do i think? you should check out what i posted on XDA based off of what I heard from Engadget about Samsung thinking 2.2 is a gimick. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845818

  • Nova504

    I too bought a vibrant, and love it, but the super slow gps fix(even after the fix, my gps still does not work properly) has left a sour taste in my mouth. I also was under the impression that Samsung said that this phone would receive froyo. I upgraded to this phone from my G1, and i miss the updates and working gps signal. Also miss certain features of having vanilla android. So this is my last samsung phone,( Makes excellent tvs though!). Its mainly my fault, I heard about the behold 2 issues, and still went with samsung vibrant, thinking they learned their lesson and chalked it up as a fluke. I am getting a nexus S phone, so I can get the look and feel of my vibrant, but have flash, vga camera, vanilla android and have the latest updates before everyone.

  • now_onTMO

    i think ( just speculating) that one of the reasons google chose android OS to be an open source was for it to be patronized by many manufacturers and be in the market in a large- scale, hence it’s current popularity and success.. it was the path that google took to break into the limelight of smartphone/iphone fame.. but now , it’s paying the price with this so-called fragmentation, a flawed perception imo that i have not grasp until now.. coz we can just buy a new phone right? and choice is good… but of course, the drawback.. is the lack of great apps maybe? open source = business?

    just my 2 cents..

  • now_onTMO

    i think ( just speculating) that one of the reasons google chose android OS to be an open source was for it to be patronized by many manufacturers and be in the market in a large- scale, hence it’s current popularity and success.. it was the path that google took to break into the limelight of smartphone/iphone fame.. but now , it’s paying the price with this so-called fragmentation, a flawed perception imo that i have not grasp until now.. coz we can just buy a new phone right? and choice is good… but of course, the drawback.. is the lack of great apps maybe? open source = business?

    just my 2 cents..

  • Taaars

    The FROYO fiasco is definitely TMO issue, Bell Mobility is now releasing 2.2 for their Vibrants…so it shows thats its out, TMOBILE is just dragging their fat butts along in the process.

    http://androidspin.com/2010/12/09/bell-releasing-2-2-froyo-for-galaxy-s-devices/

  • UnHappyVibrantCustomer

    Heres the deal samsung….

    “You blasted your way to the top as the north american top seller of android phones”

    Prepare for the 3million plus Samsung users to flush your sorry butt’s down the crapper for “screwing the people that pay your bills”

    And as collateral damage any carrier that does not stand up for it’s customers will also feel this pain of loss.

    It is time for a Class Action Lawsuit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There has to be enough pissed off Samsung owners to stand up to this total lack of support on a device that cant even find it self let alone any address on a map with bad gps! Forget antenna gate, WE have Gps gate!.

  • i’m glad i returned my vibrant when it first came out. i’ve learned to just wait instead of jumping the gun on new phones. other toys, we’ll that can be different.

    i hope you guys get all your problems solved soon. i’m feeling you’re going to have to root your phones with ROMs to get em working right.

    • Grammatica di Polizia

      You learned well.

      That’s one of the warnings about being a “first adopter,” that you will be used by a company to test its products under thousands of different user experiences. Companies will wait and see how products hold up to the abuse by users.

      I remember when the iPaq PDA came out in year 2000 or so. Once used by thousands, Compaq found out that some users were getting dust under the screen. Turns out the dust was entering through the audio and other ports. So Compaq had to fix the problem with warranty returns from first adopters and fix the new ones rolling out. They sealed the ports and made the rubber gaskets fit properly.

      So every handset has first adopter issues. It’s not unique to Samsung or the Vibrant. You do recall the issues with the iPad, iPhone, and other Apple products that most Apple supporters say the company can do no wrong.

      The classic response to being a “first adopter” is don’t be one if you are timid, afraid or don’t want to risk and experience the issues first adopters suffer. Wait four to six months after a phone has come out before buying a phone.

      First adopter is not unique to cell phones. Every product is like that. See many consumer magazines that advise the cautious and timid to never buy a car the first year a model comes out. This is because it takes two to three years for manufacturers to work all the bugs out.

      Same warning goes for used cars, it people want the comfort of a warranty, they should never buy used, always buy new. I know I appreciate those people who buy new cars because otherwise I would never be able to buy a used car, something I always do because I don’t pay new car prices.

  • Polaris1

    That’s why I stay away from Samsung phones, especially phones that need updating, i.e. a smartphone. Don’t we have enough history of Samsung sucking with updates? Behold 2 anyone? For me its HTC all the way. If you want a good TV get a Samsung. If you want a great phone go for HTC.

  • TangoPapa

    Also very glad I returned my Vibrant. There was nothing superb on that phone that I had to keep it and this software issue was enough for me to look another direction, the timing of the MT4G was perfect as when I returned the Vibrant I only had to wait 1 more month. =) been happy ever since.

  • TangoPapa

    Also very glad I returned my Vibrant. There was nothing superb on that phone that I had to keep it and this software issue was enough for me to look another direction, the timing of the MT4G was perfect as when I returned the Vibrant I only had to wait 1 more month. =) been happy ever since.

  • This may be the last time I buy a Samsung phone. It sounds like they are not committed bringing the latest and greatest to their customers. I hope they do not think that just because they don’t send an updated OS out that we will run out and buy new hardware before our contracts are up. If would be foolish to think that.

  • Grammatica di Polizia

    Just curious, does anyone in here who is criticizing Samsung for the 2.2 release, do you have any proof that it’s Samsung who is at fault?

    In contrary, there’s all kinds of proof that Samsung has released over the past few months FroYo for the Samsung Galaxy S to Canada Bell, and in Europe.

    Have you got any proof to show that it is Samsung to blame for the Vibrant not having 2.2?

    Also in contrary, there’s all kinds of proof that T-Mobile in the U.S. has always been slow to release OS upgrades.

    Does anyone on here have any proof that this time T-Mobile wants to give you the FroYo update but it’s Samsung who is causing the delay?

    If anyone has motive to delay an upgrade for the Vibrant it is T-Mobile, who sells handsets, remember.

    While I don’t know anything about how T-Mobile conducts business, it makes common business sense that T-Mobile would do things to increase and assure sales for the U.S. holiday season. One way to do that is to not provide an OS upgrade to phones that sold five months ago.

    Also, perhaps T-Mobile’s tech department people are busy with other things to where they can’t get to the Vibrant yet.

    Unless you have proof that Samsung is at fault here and proof justifying your hatred of Samsung, my guess is as good as anyone’s that Samsung is not at fault.

    Perhaps the most significant proof in Samsung’s favor is its rollout of 2.2 on the Samsung Galaxy S in Canada and Europe. Obviously the phone and company are 2.2 capable.

    Please explain and provide proof that Samsung in the U.S. is guilty here. Until you provide it, please post your Samsung hate on some other blog because it makes no sense here.

    It would be appreciated to have an intelligent discussion here instead of seeing rude hate messages with swear words directed at the Samsung Galaxy S or Samsung. Really, using swear words in here to discuss a phone.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think people realize what samsung is doing here. They are making it seem as if the galaxy s is hardly capable of 2.3, and when they release it, everyone will be thankful that they got the update. This means that by the time honeycomb(3.0) comes out, Samsung has a better chance of shaking it off with users just happy they got 2.3. BUT no, I’m sure as hell not taking that. Surprisingly, I was one of the people who doubted the behold 2 users warning all of us, yet since it wason a massive scale, I figured samsung wouldn’t dare take that chance. I for one, gave up on their support months ago and flashed have flashed a stock 2.2 rom with good stability and speed and can’t wait till the similar software for the nexus s gets fixed for the vibrant on xda. However, I hope samsung does not just assume everyone else can flash on their phone risking breaking it(not really… this phones pretty stable, but still…) and that they don’t need to provide support. Don’t fall for their tricks easily:D

    • Taaars

      I think its tmo usa, now more vibrants are getting froyo: froyo-now-available-for-vibrant-on-bell-virgin-mobile-and-sasktel-20101210.

      this is retarded, they were the first to get it, yet the last to update

    • Booyah

      Samsung fanboy ^

  • Racerxz51

    AT this point I will not buy another Samsung product of any kind based on their piss poor customer service. At the Galaxy S roll out they promised they would support this product like they havn’t done before. i cant even get a straight answer form them about 2.2 I paid good money-i expect good customer service. The phone rocks ,but if they wont take care of their customers-why buy their products ?

  • TangoPapa

    Regardless if it’s Samsung, Tmobile, or an FTC related issue…. the fact is Samsung phones and their customers unfortunately get left behind while other manufacturers are updated soon and often. I dont know whose fault it is but I’d have to imagine the Samsung UI overlay may have something to do with it. Or maybe its just a failure of Tmo and Samsung to communicate the urgency to update even though they…. either way, thats strike 2 and thats 1 too many for me! They’ll have to prove they are loyal to their customers with a few other projects before I buy another Samsung product.

  • TangoPapa

    Regardless if it’s Samsung, Tmobile, or an FTC related issue…. the fact is Samsung phones and their customers unfortunately get left behind while other manufacturers are updated soon and often. I dont know whose fault it is but I’d have to imagine the Samsung UI overlay may have something to do with it. Or maybe its just a failure of Tmo and Samsung to communicate the urgency to update even though they…. either way, thats strike 2 and thats 1 too many for me! They’ll have to prove they are loyal to their customers with a few other projects before I buy another Samsung product.

  • vejar

    I have a Vibrant, and all I want for Christmas is a Android 2.2 update!
    Besides Android 2.3 is just some little tweaks to the Stock Android Interface!

  • vejar

    I have a Vibrant, and all I want for Christmas is a Android 2.2 update!
    Besides Android 2.3 is just some little tweaks to the Stock Android Interface!

  • Rayjaybig

    We have all seen this before with Samsung. Though they never promised 2.3, they lack the dedication to keep their buyers up to par. Must I recall the behold2. SMH……

  • Hoe

    Screw Samsung and Tmobile!! My friend got a Droid X today, right from the box 2.2. Half hour later, he received 3 updates for the phone, one was 2.3. Verizon, you made Android what it is today. I’m officially switching. Goodbye!!

    • Jayherrera08

      keep in mind the motorola cliq and cliq xt NEVER recieved an OTA update past 1.6… food for thought

      • David

        Although not OTA, Motorola did provide an official update to 2.1 by connecting to your computer. There is no sense in being misleading.

    • The Observer

      your name describes you well.

      if tmobile never stuck its neck out for android in the first place, verizon would of never supported android with the other carriers at the time.

    • Anonymous

      I find that funny that he supposedly got 2.3 seeing as thats Gingerbread and only the Nexus S has it right now, just saying!

  • Mario figueroa

    I really dont understand how can samsung talk about new upgrade when we still waithing for the 2.2 upgrade this is the last samsung phone i’m buying.

  • fucking samsung ii m waiting the updates for months

  • Mikejones1876

    Well I had the vibrant for 3 weeks once I found out the honeycomb would be out about the time we would get froyo. I cop’d a mytouch 4G. On top of that all these new phones wit tegra 2 in them what would be the point in focusing on these phones when people change phones like shoes. When the g2 came out people were selling there vibrant crazy shout out to Craigslist. Lol. But the point is that you losers complained knowing all yall had the behold 2 like me. Do somethin about it like I did. I mean you get what you want there has to be cons and pros. Best screen and battery and avatar equals no update in a timely fashion don’t be fooled cuz the nexus s got gingerbread that the galaxy s will. The tab got froyo ain’t that a big galaxy s lol anyways imma let Sammy focus on bada like they are doin

    • Anonymous

      A Mytouch 4G?? That was dumb. You would have been better off returning your phone for the Nexus S. Is this english?

      Anyhow- I held off on the Vibrant, and am SO glad I did. I am holding off on the Nexus S, for the Flagship Device(S2) coming in February! 4.3-4.5 inch beauty, Dual Core, full HD Resolution 1080p resolution, 4G Capabilities….The best damn phone!

      • Guest

        Nexus S is NOT 4g for the record

        • Strayerdouglas

          None of these phones are 4g the standard committee has not ratified any of these devices to be true 4g. what these companies are offering and calling 4g they call it 4g because if they advertised it for what it really is, 3.5g or 3g+ then people would be more likely to skip this upgrade cycle and wait for the true 4g which will probably be called 5g when it finally gets here. After all we are more likely to upgrade for $500 if we think it is the next best thing, not an enhancement to the last new best thing.

  • Canesha

    What is wrong with Samsung and their lack of supporting updates for the Vibrant? I’ve had the phone for a couple of months now and like it for the most part, but it’s annoying to see others get Android updates – even in the UK – while we keep getting blown off. Do updates cause them that much money? I had that god-awful MyTouch 3g (original) for an entire year, and suddenly it was getting an upgrade from 1.6. I seem to have this knack for picking phones that manufacturer’s try to distance themselves from once they spew it out to the masses, lock themselves up in the backroom and count their cash.

  • Larissa_zwanenburg

    I don’t even think they should partially promise gingerbread for samsung vibrant first in for most in has yet to see froyo, they suck keep lien been waiting for the update for the longest.

  • lstdrgn31

    you all have to understand, the update for vibrant to gingerbread, will not happen . You might get 2.2.Froyo but since the release of the nexus s, it would not make business sense for them to release the.gingerbread when their premier phone,just game out with it already on it.. there would be no reason for aanyone to purchase the nexus s . So to keep there sales going, no gingerbread on the vibrant. Blame google also since they didn’t make the nexus s an independent phone , instead of an extension of an existing lineup and no real differences from the vibrant. you guys might as well jump ship to htc.

  • angel915

    well im lucky to have my mytouch 4g which came with 2.2 right out of the box. im just hoping that they can come out with the 2.3 update for my phone so i dont have to be another unsatisfied customer like alomost everyone is with their samsungs…good luck samsung owners……

  • Pjmperez

    Well…ill just for this update. Got my 2.2 update thru Mini Kies of Samsung. So far so good. :)

  • Ajsuri

    well the 2.2 update was OTA update it was optional for users and T-mobile has the instructions to put in on your galaxy S phones. Now i am too waiting for 2.3 Update and the reason for 2.2 not to be replaced OTA was because they didnt want the Galaxy S 2 to suffer in the market because it has 2.3 pre installed. So lets hope we all get the 2.3 update because i would love too.

  • Ajsuri

    sorry corrections*****

    well the 2.2 update was not a OTA update it was optional for users and T-mobile has the instructions to put in on your galaxy S phones. Now i am too waiting for 2.3 Update and the reason for 2.2 not to be sent OTA was because they didnt want the Galaxy S 2 to suffer in the market because it has 2.2 pre installed. So lets hope we all get the 2.3 update because i would love too.