Is Verizon Single-handedly Responsible For Androids Success?

In the midst of yesterdays Verizon LTE announcement, a little ego showed on behalf of Verizon as they proclaimed themselves responsible for the success of Android. “Android really took off when Verizon got involved” is the direct quote from Verizon CTO Tony Melone and comes off pretty matter of fact. T-Mobile was the first carrier to launch Android in the US with the G1 but can Verizon really take credit for Androids current success?

T-Mobile has 14 Android handsets to Verizon’s 11 and yet, nobody would dispute that Verizon has put significantly more marketing into the Android platform than the other carriers combined. T-Mobile has run advertising campaigns for the myTouch line but they pale in comparison the Droid campaign Verizon has going on.  All to often the masses, i.e. the public at large will equate Android with “Droid,” and that shows the reach of Verizon’s marketing strategy. People will ask to see your Droid phone, even if it’s an HTC Evo because that’s the name that’s become synonymous with the platform.

To be honest, I think if anything, the iPhone is more responsible for Androids success than Verizon and their marketing. Hear me out before you pounce on the iPhone. Apple raised the stakes of the smartphone game when the first iPhone dropped. Until that point, Palm, Windows Mobile and Blackberry ruled and ruled well. Apple changed the landscape of the smartphone platform when they introduced the iPhone and suddenly Palm and Blackberry looked stale and Windows Phone looked downright slow. Apple made the smartphone desirable to the masses, especially to those who had otherwise shied away from the monthly costs associated with a Blackberry or a Treo. AT&T has enjoyed the fruits of the iPhone success; there is absolutely no argument in that regard but their network and its inconsistencies have plagued it since the very beginning. Verizon customers who longed for an iPhone like device on the Verizon network flocked to Android and for good reason, Android is as good as a platform as iOS. Android shares the same the level of smartphone “smarts” as does the iPhone. Verizon grabbed the Palm Pre and Pixi after Sprints exclusivity expired and yet, sales were slow. Android however offered a much more rounded experience that matched and in some levels exceeded what the iPhone offered.

Case in point would be that sales of Android handsets pale in comparison to the iPhone on AT&T and while its easy to argue AT&T lacks a compelling Android offering, the Captivate comes pretty close. So while Verizon thinks they can take credit for Android, the real responsibility rests with Apple for better or worse as they helped create a whole new level of the smartphone market and Verizon simply rode that wave and continues to do so.

So I pose to you, the T-Mobile customer and the TmoNews reader the question of whether or not you believe Verizon and/or the iPhone is truly responsible for the success of Android as it stands now? I’m not questioning the success of the Droid platform on Verizon, but whether or not Verizon is actually responsible, singlehandedly as they proclaimed to be for Android being the giant it is today. What say you?

I understand the possibility for a comment section that looks like a second grade classroom is likely to result from this question, but it’s an interesting question, at least to me. Please keep it clean!

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  • Anonymous

    I.ve been with TMO for 7 years. I remember the G1 when it came out. I did not see any marketing from magenta. I have my first smart phone with MTHD. This is the first major marketing that I’ve seen for a android device on magenta. When I discuss android with people they all say the same thing. What kind of droid is it? For things to change magenta must do a better marketing job. What they are doing now is a great start. What will they do next?Stay thirsty my friends!

  • whosaidwhat

    Single handed? NO.

    Significant contribution? YES, without a doubt.

    We can’t go by “what if the Iphone was on Verizon?” because no one really knows how that would have shaped things. All I know is that people were talking about the first “DROID” because of that massive advertisement Verizon introduced at the time. 5 people I work with (without knowledge of Android) out of nowhere came in with the original DROID and I had to explain to them that I have the very first Android phone (G1).

    No other Carrier has matched that kind of advertisement for an android device since the original DROID, not even Verizon.

    • Dalek

      Agreed.

      Verizon co-opted the android name and turned it into their own brand, along with officially licensing droid from lucasfilm and then following that up with an r2d2 phone. To most people i know, droid = android now.

      They didnt do anything significantly different than what tmobile tried with the Gx and myTouch brands, they just did it much better. There’s no reason it should have taken 3 years to get a G2 out (even if it was worth the wait) and while the mytouch has decent traction, it’s a chick brand to a lot of people. (That mytouch 4g chick is totally awesome though).

    • whatthe…

      Well said.

      And yet, you have to account for the impact of going from nothing to something (which is what happened when VZ began the ad-blitz for the original DROID) as opposed to going from something to something more (as has been the case ever since). Simply put, T-Mo had a potential first mover advantage with Android and dropped the ball, and VZ capitalized on it, big time.

  • As tough as it is to admit, Verizon is indeed single-handedly responsible for Android’s success. Prior attempts to push Android did have limited success (G1, Nexus 1, etc) but it is clear as a bell that Verizon and its unilateral “‘Droid” campaign pushed it to new levels.

    One notable aspect is that for all the marketing Verizon put into it, that very same marketing is also exactly what helped Sprint launch its Evo/Wimax. Verizon had already paved the way with public enamorment for the Android platform.

    To a certain extent, TMo is also enjoying the fruits of VZ’s marketing with its MyTouch and G2.

    • whosaidwhat

      You are right about Verizon’s campaign helping others like T-mobile. People at my job (grown men and women by the way) walked around saying “DROID!!!”. Very catchy. Others have gone out and bought Android phones from other carriers.

      I’m still not sure if Verizon can be credited for all of it though. The improvements to the OS and the nice and shinny phones introduced this year helped too. The EVO and DROID X are really nice phones even if they are too big for some.

  • Cccheel

    Verizon is definitely the reason for Android’s popularity. It’s all because of the Droid phone and its marketing. I’m on T-Mobile, but let’s face it – T-Mobile does the worst job advertising anything. No one knows anything about T-Mo except that it plays little brother to all the big boys. T-Mo may have been first to the Android table, but it didn’t take off until Verizon put put the Droid.

  • i have to say t-mo get to take the credit ik the droid was the big phone that made everyone go android crazy but t-mo caught Verizon eye with the g1 and mytouch so would there be a droid if there was no g1 that is the question and would would the g2 be the same phone without the iphone if you look at videos of the original android idea it looked more like a black berry.

  • FlyingR

    Good article. I share the same beliefs/thoughts. Apple changed the phone market landscape with the Iphone, but because they limited themselves to a single carrier, they created an unmet demand with other carriers. Thus comes in Android. And yes, Verizon has moved Android from being a second class citizen to being an equal to the Iphone, thanks to their huge marketing dollars. And you are quite right that people think that droid = android. I have even heard it from the COO of my company – (it did make me squirm :) )

    On a personal side.
    I prefer Android to the iphone, but I do need to thank Steve Jobs – he is a genius in my eyes :) – although I do disagree strongly with his “walled garden” strategy – and really not caring about your past customers. He has trained his fan boys well — they will pay 50% more for less every time!

    So let’s thank all the apple fan boys out there that help support R&D with their constant upgrades!!!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe they were single handedly responsible but they did play a MAJOR role. Their Droid ad campaign brought attention from the masses to what had previously been mostly known to tech savvy people that frequented sites like this. I also agree that the iphone played another Major part but not as significant as Verizon. Glad to see t-mobile finally advertising its Android line of phones!

    • DMa

      I agree, Verizon spent millions and millions getting the spotlight on android, and helped all carriers because of that and Android in general. To be honest when the G1 came out I heard about it, but it wasn’t plastered around and was soon somewhat forgotten. Verizon helped, and i also think that even though it didn’t work out as planned, the nexus one got 3 months of great coverage in major news outlets which also helped propel Android into the vernacular.

  • SaggyBalls

    Verizon’s always been smug, Verizon will always be smug. Let them think what they want. We all know, or should know, that Android’s success can’t be pinpointed to one specific moment. It’s bigger than that. Truth be told, the success of the iPhone had just as much influence on catapulting Android as anything else did. It spawned a counter-culture, gave people an opportunity to proclaim greatness on something other than an Apple product. Plus, it’s just a great operating system. Verizon is the bully on the block, it’s not going to change. But history has shown that when a company gets a little too smug, bad things happen, just ask Enron.

  • Anonymous

    Well…look at it this way (and don’t flame me). (symbian and will try to make a comeback, android will kill the market very soon, and RIM will still be big in business/gov’t)
    It really was Verizon. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE T-MOBILE!

    Verizon marketed the android line of phones so well, that everyone was calling them DRIOD’s. I laugh at them because they don’t know, and Verizon preyed on that so well that Droid = Android in the casual user’s eye and they flocked to them…

    MyTouch was a good idea that went sour, and a 8 month exclusive with HTC, Tmobile and Google would have been perfect….Missed that opportunity. The HTC HD2 was a mistake in exclusivity but opened another door for HTC to show off it’s wares.

    iPhone, etc, had nothing to do with it, however. Exclusivities work very well…

  • Bob Roberts

    It has to be Tmobile. Who had the G1? – Tmobile !!

    • Frank Castle

      If Android was truly relying on the popularity of the G1, then it would have been doomed. In hindsights, its STILL an odd choice of hardware to premiere a new mobile OS.

  • Anonymous

    Well the iPhone definitely took the smartphone to a different level. That prompted makers of mobile OSes to adopt an iPhone-like approach in their software. Those who didn’t get the iPhone or weren’t on that network got something similar in Android on even the HTC WinMo touch screens that were available shortly after. People fell in love especially with Android and it grew from there. Geeks like myself had known about Android since before it was first debuted on T-Mobile’s G1. It was great; it was different; we all jumped on it. One thing people should note however, is that T-Mobile really didn’t need to put up all kinds of commercials to create the G1 buzz. It had it’s own momentum that kept growing. I believe without all of those “Droid” commercials, Android would have held it’s own anyway. The buzz was HUGE from the get-go. Granted, Verizon and the “Droid” helped boost sales significantly, but they most definitely didn’t single-handedly make Android what it is today. It comes from the source—T-Mobile and the G1. Without that initial buzz that kept getting bigger and bigger, Verizon wouldn’t have thought about jumping in. Apparently T-Mobile and G1 caught their attention. iPhone is responsible for new smartphone evolution; T-Mobile/G1 are responsible for the overall success of Android.

  • You cant forget about the first people who had the G1 played the biggest part LIke when I had mine everyone I knew loved it (thought it was an ugly phone) but they loved what it could do I had it rooted and it could do more it was a hotspot before anyone knew a phone could do that. now almost everyone I work with that had an iphone,Winmo,Palm,BlackBerry any smartphone now have an ANDROID Evos,Epics,Vibrants,Droids.

  • You cant forget about the first people who had the G1 played the biggest part LIke when I had mine everyone I knew loved it (thought it was an ugly phone) but they loved what it could do I had it rooted and it could do more it was a hotspot before anyone knew a phone could do that. now almost everyone I work with that had an iphone,Winmo,Palm,BlackBerry any smartphone now have an ANDROID Evos,Epics,Vibrants,Droids.

  • Wunako

    Ofcoarse they’re not single handedly the only reason.. at all but they do get the most credit.. like the article says, TMo only promotes the MyTouch Line (which they should since its their brand of Android) instead of all there leading phones with android. Verizon always promo’s its Droid Eris, and other phones but having the Droid as their flagship phone, so when people think android… er droid.. they think verizon.. Tmo just dropped the ball on marketing even tho they were first to have a android phone

  • Wunako

    Ofcoarse they’re not single handedly the only reason.. at all but they do get the most credit.. like the article says, TMo only promotes the MyTouch Line (which they should since its their brand of Android) instead of all there leading phones with android. Verizon always promo’s its Droid Eris, and other phones but having the Droid as their flagship phone, so when people think android… er droid.. they think verizon.. Tmo just dropped the ball on marketing even tho they were first to have a android phone

  • GT

    Verizon’s marketing propelled the android operating system. Without it, I’m not sure it would have grown as fast, both in customer appeal and in apps. TMo does do a terrible job in its advertising. They rely on there NBA marketing as the main one. HTC is marketing the G2 better than TMo. Why is that? Sure TMo probably does pay for some of it, but I see those commercials more than TMo’s own for android, excluding during NBA games.
    TMo took the initiative to back android. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain in that endeavor. Verizon saw the potential and ran with it (considering they didn’t have the iPhone) to compete against AT&T.
    In short, Verizon should be credited for making android what it is now. TMo for having the guts to be the guinea pig. Loyal TMo customer for <5 years.

  • Vic

    Sorry T-Mobile guys we are talking about who made Android. G1 Launched late 2008 but Android remained but a blip on the radar till late 2009 and then it sky rocketed. All of us who wanted an iPhone would not leave Verizon the phone network is the most important suddenly had a phone which worked sort of like an iPhone on Verizon. Dumped the Blackberry got an Android and soon realized it was better than an iPhone. If iPhone was on Verizon would have never used Android so did Verizon contribute to Androids success or Apple by staying exclusive to AT&T take your pick

  • Me

    For me, I think that it’s Verizon. Sure, T-mobile had the FIRST one, but the issue here folks is PERCEPTION and the perception is, Verizon. I heard about android long ago, well before it came out and I was jazzed about it. I didnt go for android because Im with another phone manufacturer I like, plain and simple, but that doesn’t mean Droid isnt good; it is. If you ask people what phone they want, they say DROID…… not android operating system, but droid. I work for a phone company and people are say “I want to leave you because they have droid.” When I tell them that we do to, they’ll say, “yeah, but they have droid by this company or that company” so the PERCEPTION is, (even if it’s a lie) a single PHONE is droid. Thanks to marketing principles, the horse is out of the barn and people just think droid is a LINE OF PHONE – except the die hards who know better.

  • Julia

    When I got the G1 on preorder 2+ years ago, nobody knew anything about Android. I remember being amazed when I guy came up to me at the mall asking me if I was carrying the G1. Verizon definitely made the general public aware of the Android OS and how awesome it is. Now many people I know carry some type of Android device (and none of them even remember anything about my G1 lol)

    • Jack

      I know, its sad. The G1, even if clunky, was awesome. And it did make me mad when the G1 first came out, and other carrier users thought that, plus the OS was stupid and that it was going to fail.

      And I do fault Tmobile for not hitting the marketing like they should have. Fail…no other way to put it.

      • The G1 was a good phone, but as I recall it didn’t offer WiFi which was a non starter for many people. Also, the Android Market of today is much more competetive with Apple’s app store than it was 2+ years ago.

        The myTouch is a good phone (I have one of the originals) but the Verizon offering was more powerful and better marketed. Today’s magenta phones lead the pack but at that time there wasn’t much in the marketplace to make one look at T-Mo offerings if they were looking for an Android phone.

        • what are you talking about it did have wifi?????????????????????
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          (4.60 in x 2.16 in x 0.62 in)
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          (Band frequency, HSUPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
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  • Aaron

    VZW deserves the lion share of the credit.

  • Al Gore

    I invented the android phone.

  • One could rephrase the question another way: Would Android be as successful without the marketing magic of Verizon?

    The answer, of course, is yes – Any time there is a diversity of major manufacturers making a device with a specific operating system, you’re going to have a successful platform. Look at Sony with BetaMax, vs Panasonic with VHS. Microsoft with Windows, vs Apple with Mac OS. Android is a success because HTC, Sony, Motorola, Samsung, and LG make Android phones, and there are Android devices on every carrier, postpaid and prepaid.

    Verizon could argue that the only thing they’re responsible for, in terms of Android and its growth, is putting Motorola back in the game as a handset manufacturer.

    • Anonymous

      This is the most correct statement regarding this issue…. ever. LIKE a thousand times and Phone Nerd… I’ll leave it to you because I couldnt have said at any better myself. The only that Verizon has done alone was bring MOTO back in the game. Yes their sucess with the Droid line is great but that was just good advertising not exactly the same thing as propelling the entire Android OS as a whole to where it is now.

      The Droid line as it stands now…. are all about the same in terms of what the can and cannot do….

    • Frank Castle

      I understand and somewhat agree w/ your statement… Android would inevitably succeed, yes. And it is wrong to think it would not have without VZW. However, look at the first year of Android… T-mo might have taken the chance on Android, but did horribly with marketing and securing ‘must have’, top of the line hardware. VZW gave Android a Nitro boost with heavy ad campaigns and consumer awareness. Android growth would and could have continued without VZW, but not as fast as it did.

    • Would Android ultimately be successful? Yes, and for the reasons you state. Would it have grown as quickly as it did? No. Verizon provided significant marketing muscle and had the most powerful handsets at the time.

  • lrnano

    Agree with Verizion Wireless did caught the attention of the people & well marketing strategies. The company that put Android on the map is T-Mobile with G1 = Generation 1. If T-Mobile wouldn’t have done that know one wouldn’t known about the Android OS. So far as marketing the product I give it to Verizon Wireless cuz at one point people stop talking about Android.

    • Anonymous

      and they still cant even tho palm os and windows mobile(phone) 7 has debuted since android has become “mainstream”

  • BrendanMcCluskey

    Has Verizon been more responsible for Android’s success than T-Mobile has? I think most of us would agree. Is Verizon “Single-handedly” Responsible For Androids Success? Heck no. Its success is attributed to many things, e.g. its being adopted by nearly every carrier around the globe, Apple’s long contractual commitment to AT&T, Verizon’s effective Droid branding, etc.

    • hi!

      and this is why it’s important to remember that Verizon never ever…ever said that. Re-read the article. The EXACT quote is, ““Android really took off when Verizon got involved” which again, is irrefutable fact

  • Keith Randy

    I don’t think that many people hated at&t enough to make Android successful. Yes, iPhone did change the game, but the true reason for the rise in Android is because of Verizon. T-Mobile was somewhat of a ginny pig for Android. A lot of people don’t know this buy T-Mobile was the first US carrier to adopt the Blackberry. That’s what T-Mobile does, they take chances. However, their marketing is absolutely terrible. Until recently, T-Mobile has never really marketed their phones or their network. Just their value and promoting families. T-Mobile had the opportunity to make the most of the time they had android and they didn’t. Verizon can in and offered the best Android phone at the time, the Droid. Not only was the marketing good, but it was a well built phone. I know I had one. While Verizon got the Droid, T-Mobile was adopting the Cliq. And android phone that has been plagued with issues from day one. Under powered, slow, clunky Moto Blur OS.

    Give Verizon credit where credit is due. That are an essential part of Androids success.

  • Wondercoolguy

    Yes I have TMO and I love TMO but they didn’t do anything to push the Android product. It was Verizon that started the Droid push. Most everyone I talk to about getting an Android phone all respond with I don’t have Verizon. Then I have to explain OS and that every carrier has Android. The common person thinks that Android is a phone on verizon and not an Operating System on all carriers

  • No. You guys are trying to start a riot. Sorry to say it but i think tmonews is semi biased.

    • Anonymous

      TMONEWS…… ummm yeah…. its baised…..but not so much in response to this tho…

      • Wait, what is biased?

        • Anonymous

          The site in general being that this is tmonews, but also that person was saying that you aren’t being biased in this article though.

        • I hope I came off as biased in this post, I’m pretty clear when I’m leaning pro-T-Mobile as I’ll say so in no uncertain terms. I also hope its equally clear when I’m being critical of T-Mobile in a specific article but in this case I just trying to point out with was said and see what my readers, knowing fully well they are mostly all T-Mobile biased would think. Suffice to say, plenty think the guy was right even though they are all loving T-Mobile customers.

    • You think? It’s a T-Mobile blog? Why wouldn’t we be biased but the story I wrote has no bias, it’s merely a question I posed but to say we are biased is like saying the sky is blue. Who wouldn’t expect a T-Mobile blog to have pro T-Mobile leanings?

  • Anonymous

    I love TMO but VZW did blow up Android with the Droid and Droid Incredible. If Tmobile had carried the N1 then it would be a completely different story but they didnt. And this doesnt help TMO either:

    1Ghz “superphones”
    Tmobile carried: Vibrant, G2, MT4G
    Verizon carried: Droid Inc, Droid X, Droid 2, Galaxy Fascinate, Droid Pro, Galaxy Continuum

    I won’t call int single handed but it is lobsided.

    • Anonymous

      T-Mobile did have some involvement in the Nexus One and was compatible with t-mobiles network and you would either get it through t-mobile contract or off contract. I would say it was a t-mo google device in its own right. The Droid branding got too over hyped. Galaxy Fascinate is the same as any other galaxy s and Droid Pro isn’t really that desirable neither Galaxy Continuum(unless you favor that) nor even the Droid incredible.

    • Anonymous

      T-Mobile did have some involvement in the Nexus One and was compatible with t-mobiles network and you would either get it through t-mobile contract or off contract. I would say it was a t-mo google device in its own right. The Droid branding got too over hyped. Galaxy Fascinate is the same as any other galaxy s and Droid Pro isn’t really that desirable neither Galaxy Continuum(unless you favor that) nor even the Droid incredible.

  • Jamie

    There was a whole year in between the launch of the G1 and the Droid. Verizon saw a good thing and wanted to get on the bandwagon. They had seen the success of the iPhone and wanted to take part in it, but their hands were tied. They saw the possibilities of the Android OS and embraced it. Did they have more money available for marketing, yes. This allowed them to get themselves front and center in the Android world. Just because you’re the loudest brat on the school yard with the new toy, doesn’t mean that you’re responsible for all the other kids wanting one, too.

  • T1 Connect

    Thing is when vzw was asked to be a member of the open handset alliance they refused, and even came off with some bad words. For them to make this comment, really pisses me off..google should have nothing to do with them and niether should microsoft for that whole kin debacle.

  • Neoprimal

    The Captivate doesn’t come close to the iPhone…that’s the problem. A phone marketed as being a premium Android handset and claimed to have been sold in the millions just isn’t premium in terms of use. Ask any GS user – It’s slow with time under it’s belt, buggy (in terms of the GPS) and without root+different rom the Samsung GS line is handicapped severely by Samsung’s RFS pushed to be used on all it’s onenand products.
    Now, take RFS and the GPS issues some/most users are having and you do have a premium phone with some powerful specs going for it.

    Also, this whole droid thing according to this writeup doesn’t ring true. I referred to my G1 as Droid before any VZ ad. So did all my friends and most people with an Android device. It’s almost common sense that if you’re going to shorten Android, you’d call it a Droid…which for 1 in and of itself is logical and 2, relates to the Droids from the SW galaxy which were just robots but with seemingly very high A.I (R2D2, for ex).

    If anything, VZ can take the praise for the ads which came on pretty much all the time – but the core Android users that have purchased the products and gone back to purchase more I think, come from T-Mobile whoch was the first….even if they’re no longer T-Mo customers, they moved to Sprint or VZ to get a different flavor of Android phone. I cant point a finger to say who’s more to blame for Android’s success or adoption than Google – who’s made the OS open for the most part, and given the mod community the option to tinker and build different roms for different folks. I def. don’t think it’s Verizon though.

    As for the iPhone causing Android’s success through effect…I don’t think so either. Only a handful of bandwagonists and hard core Apple fans moved from their networks to ATT to get the iPhone, and people who were on ATT may as well get it because it’s one of the best phones on their network. ATT has a disgusting Android lineup, it’s like they’re not even trying so I can say right now, as much as I hate to be locked into the Apple ecosystem which is draconian at best in terms of allowing users to do what they want to do with their devices – I’d probably go with the iPhone too having used the Vibrant and knowing that I wouldn’t be able to handle the Captivates core issues.

    It all boils down to the question being rephrased: Would Android be as successful without VZ? In no uncertain terms, the answer would be a big Yes.

  • Giannop

    I work at tmobile and I’ll be the first to say it was verizon who brought android to where it is today. IOS just gave room to innovate. When android came out as a response to apple it was small compared to apple. It wasn’t until verizon came to the picture with their strong and clever marketing technique that brought it to the map. Giving the iPhone credit to android sucres is like giving the industrial revolution the success to the iPhone. Lol. If the iPhone didn’t happen I’m pretty sure android would have still came. Verizon took it to the status that it is today. People come in to my store asking me all the time if we have the droid. Then I have to explain to them what it is…

    • Anonymous

      Agreed, Verizon is responsible for maybe 90% of android’s success. The other carriers helped a little (hence the remaining 10%), but no where near Verizon’s level.

      • Anonymous

        90% is too much credit when all they did was market droid. I would give them near 50% responsibility but not exactly 50% or higher. While it was verizon marketing did kick off android initially, it was the availability, customizability, difference in UI’s, variety of devices and devices after the release of Nexus One that are responsible for the success of android. And even more with samsung’s new business model for android going all carrier it will play an even bigger part as well. Verizon gets maybe 40% responsibility because if Verizon was the only carrier to offer android I can guarantee it wouldn’t be as great as it is today.

      • Tortionist

        Quit smoking crack. I’d give verizon about 50% responsiblity for Androids success, I-phone about 20% and T-mobile about 30%. WIthout T-Mobile, there’d be no Android.

  • Giannop

    I work at tmobile and I’ll be the first to say it was verizon who brought android to where it is today. IOS just gave room to innovate. When android came out as a response to apple it was small compared to apple. It wasn’t until verizon came to the picture with their strong and clever marketing technique that brought it to the map. Giving the iPhone credit to android sucres is like giving the industrial revolution the success to the iPhone. Lol. If the iPhone didn’t happen I’m pretty sure android would have still came. Verizon took it to the status that it is today. People come in to my store asking me all the time if we have the droid. Then I have to explain to them what it is…

  • Manusferrera

    Verizon made android tough to say but they did

  • Anonymous

    and let’s not forget Motorola’s premier entry was phenomenal…the original Motorola Droid was considered awesome…even though we (t mobile) got shat on…

  • orly?

    Is Verizon Single-handedly Responsible For Androids Success?

    Yes.

  • orly?

    Is Verizon Single-handedly Responsible For Androids Success?

    Yes.

    • A lot depends on what is intended by “success.” Verizon had everything to do with the rapid growth in sales and market share with competent devices and the first meaningful efforts at marketing them. Do I remember correctly that the G1 didn’t offer WiFi access? You’ve got to offer the features, and you have to market them boldly and loudly. Verizon was the first to have both. Verizon created the brand.

      • Tortionist

        The g1 did offer wifi access. I had it. So you remember incorrectly.

    • Anonymous

      Verizon is partially responsible for the success, NOT SINGLE-HANDEDLY!

  • Wilma Flintstone

    It’s the truth. Verizon and Motorola got Android where it is now. Most average customers know a smartphone with android as a Droid. Not a G2, MT4G, G1 or even Nexus 1 and thats from Google themselves. So Verizon’s CTO is 100% correct, a bit bigheaded but correct nontheless.

    Tmo brought The Razr and Sidekick where they were.

  • hi!

    I am a staunch T-mobile supporter but Verizon unquestionably is responsible for the success of Android. As you correctly stated in your article, to the VAST majority of the nation, the phone’s are ALL called, “Droids” regardless of carrier. That alone answers your question. The Palm Pre is an awesome device that had no marketing behind it (some creepy looking lake lady doesn’t count). WebOS is certainly a comparable operating system to iOS but it didn’t catch on because there was no well thought out, effective marketing campaign behind it like there was for the Droid line. Again, irrefutable fact that Verizon is responsible for bringing Android to the mass conscious. Furthermore, I think this article is severely blowing things out of proportion. Verizon simply stated, “Android really took off when Verizon got involved” and in no way shape or form can that be argued. They didn’t “take credit for Android’s success” like you stated. They made a simple statement of fact.

  • ObsequiousFlattery

    If I remember correctly, Verizon laughed and said they didn’t want the iPhone back in 2005 so when they were broadsided by the iPhone, and subsequent updates, they had to scavenge and get a compelling 3G phone ASAP or else fear loosing 30-some-percent of their customer base to AT&T.

    So of course, they were responsible for Android’s success. They would be America’s #3 wireless network if they weren’t successful.

    • David Reyna

      They didn’t laugh at them. They knew it was a good device. Apple wanted all the control and money with no Vzw branding so Vzw told them to piss off. I think it was a good move on Vzw’s part. I bet the deal they have with apple now is much better than it would’ve been.

    • David Reyna

      They didn’t laugh at them. They knew it was a good device. Apple wanted all the control and money with no Vzw branding so Vzw told them to piss off. I think it was a good move on Vzw’s part. I bet the deal they have with apple now is much better than it would’ve been.

  • I think verizon did make android what it is today thats no question about it. But I think google loves t-mobile for been the first carrier to give them a chance and i feel they have good relationship. Google and verizon seems like they made a deal with the devil thats how I feel!

  • Danny

    I love T-Mobile but give Verizon their due where it’s owed.

    T-Mobile sucks at advertising. All we get are cutesy family (value) type of ads.

    Verizon’s ads are edgy, modern and we are bombarded with them everywhere. Verizon made “Droid,” a household name. People call all Androids “Droid,” now on the web interchangably regardless of the carrier.

    T-Mobile needs hotter, edgier more powerful ads showcasing their network strength and product line.

  • Toeshot

    Sorry, Verizon is not solely responsible for where Android is today. Marketing does have some play into it don’t get me wrong but the quality of the device is a major factor. You could market a brick as the best product in the world and people would buy it but when they found out is was a brick word of mouth would pass around quickly in today’s media technology and it would be just a brick sitting there with no sales no matter what marketing you do with it after the bad press, look at Toyota. What makes the Android sale is the OS itself, with it’s customizable features to give the phone a personality of the owner, which you can’t find on any other phone. The stability of the OS and the software it supports. You also have sites like XDA which give the phone great appeal to developers who want more from the phone. Verizon didn’t do that

  • Kyjeepbear

    As a 12 year employee of T-Mobile… this is absolutely, 1000%, dead on a true statement! No doubt about it.

    • Moda253

      That’s why I left T-mobile… Too many 12 year old employees.

      • bloke

        durr

    • Boygeorge

      As a 12 year employee of T-Mobile you cannot deny the marketing muscle Verizon puts behind their products and network vs what T-Mobile tells us.

      Maybe the 12 year employees need to be replaced by fresh blood who know how to manage a network and know how to advertise successfully?

  • Locke88

    yes, verizon is responsible for the success of android today

    • Anonymous

      No, Verizon is not responsible for all success of Android. Variety, Customizability, Marketing, UI’s even played a huge part.

      Verizon is only responsible for the marketing side. Aside from that the Nexus One really helped set the standard for whats in android and These standards helped produce higher end phone of which enticed many. Like linux there are many flavors of Android of which makes it easier to appeal to different groups and this happened hardware wise as well. Note how no android is truly the same experience.

  • To626n

    Eh, T-Mobile did drop the ball in becoming the premiere Android carrier. After the G1 came out, it took a whole year for another Android handset to come out. This would have been acceptable if the original MyTouch was a standout cutting edge phone, but it wasn’t. It was basically a slimmer G1 minus the physical keyboard. By this time Verizon had already come out with its Droid running Android 2.1 with a much faster processor while the MyTouch was significantly slower while running Android 1.5. Of course the “Droid does” campaign helped too.

    • Anonymous

      No Droid originally aired with 2.0 <- note that real quick. They didn't get 2.1 until Nexus One of which was partnered by yours truly tmo.

  • Apple changed the game in terms of expectations for a higher end smartphone – face it, even a low end Android phone is significantly more capable and more user friendly than a typical high end smartphone from five years ago. Apple fan boys would have bought the iPhone regardless, but it really was unique and really did offer something different and attractive to the masses. On top of that, both Apple and AT&T marketed the heck out of it.

    T-Mobile didn’t market Android and the G1 (or the first generation myTouch) to nearly the same level. Moreover, T-Mobile simply doesn’t have the reach of AT&T (let alone Verizon). When I am visiting a college town with 30-50K people and can’t get a reliable data signal even at edge speeds….that’s simply not acceptable. I applaud T-Mobile’s direct and aggressive engagement in the 4G wars, but for smartphone users focused more on productivity and less on streaming video the raw speed is less critical than dependable, reliable access. They’re the smallest of the majors, and they simply have more gaps in their network than the other carriers.

    Verizon deserves credit for getting the name out there. Until their marketing kicked off, and the powerful “iDon’t but Droid Does” campaign, few people in the market for an iPhone or a high end blackberry would have had Android come to mind as something to add to the shopping list.

    Magenta gets due credit for being the first and arguably the best – their handsets are the cream of the crop and where the network is sufficiently robust it is indeed very, very good. But AT&T really created the market for “that type” of phone with the iPhone, and it was Verizon who made ‘Droid a household name.

  • Rob

    I think what made Verizon start pushing the green guy was the success on Tmo’s customer base. Any successful business looks for the one thing that does well, and then moves in to do it better. Wether or not the Reds HAVE done it better or not, is debatable (afterall, their top Droid phones are made by the same people who brought us the Charm and the Razr 2, yuck). I would say the Reds are just as much of a contributing factor as Apple and Magenta.

  • blah

    I agree with this as many consumers still confuse the android OS with the “Droid” and use the names incorrectly. Their marketing campaign out it on the make and made it appear desirable rather than a “knock-off” iOS

  • blah

    I agree with this as many consumers still confuse the android OS with the “Droid” and use the names incorrectly. Their marketing campaign out it on the make and made it appear desirable rather than a “knock-off” iOS

  • The Observer

    verizon or the other carriers wouldnt even touch an android phone until tmobile brought out the g1. so without tmobile bringin out android, verizon would never see that green robot

  • Joe

    I think Verizon took its opportunities it was given or taken from manufacturers and committed whole-heartedly. While T-mobile got the CLIQ, Motorola gave Verizon the Droid. While T-Mobile got the myTouch 3G 3.5mm, HTC gave Verizon the Incredible. Motorola gave Verizon the Droid X and Droid 2 and T-mobile didn’t get anything; I wouldn’t say T-mobile got the CLIQ|XT because that came out way before those releases. Either T-mobile isn’t appealing to manufacturers, or they are and the manufacturers don’t see T-mobile as viable. I won’t go into T-mobile’s customizing HTC’s custom UI of Android.

    • Rob

      Your phone comparison isn’t perfect, but your point is valid. Once verizon came out with the moto droid t mobile did not have a phone that could compete with verizon’s ensuing lineup. Until finally the G2 came out. Which is still better than all of verizons phones. I havent seen speed test from the Droid 2 Global but it was killing the original Droid 2 in everything category.

      and the MT4G beats on the G2 so right now tmobile is sitting pretty with phones. IMO the MT4G is the best phone on the market I still cant get over how fast it is. I just wish it was vanilla android. Still can’t decide if I want the G2 or to wait for the Nexus S. It’s a good time to have tmobile for smart phones.

      • David Reyna

        I agree completely. The MT4G is by far the best phone on the market in terms of features and hardware to back it up. And the fact that it’s not vanilla is horse manure. But it being android there are apps to download that bring most of the vanilla experience back into the picture.

        I actually don’t agree with the article, neither Apple nor Vzw are mostly responsible for the success of android. I think the biggest reason for its success is the fact you can log in and most of your life auto syncs to your phone.

        I enjoy geeking out with my Android phone. If I mess something up I don’t have to do any crazy backups to get everything back how it was in the event of a format. The only thing I do have to back up is my home screen layout. Everything else is automatic, including the apps I have. To me that is what makes Android a superior OS.

    • kenbot

      The only good phone T-Mobile has at the moment is the G2. Samsung Vibrant doesn’t count since all of the major carriers have their own version of the Galaxy S. Here’s hoping that in the next year they get some great Android handsets that can rival Sprint’s or at least Verizon’s.

    • Tcontento

      I understand your point, which is valid. But truly, if you were the owner of the droid (motorola) and you had to sell it to a company to make big bucks, who would you go after T-Mobile or Verizon??? I hate Verizon, but knowing I would make 3x the money going with them, I would do so…..

  • Anonymous

    I must agree to an extent. Verizon’s marketing efforts did kick off android, BUT! t-mobile offered it first and then continued to progress with Nexus One which set the standards for newer Androids. The current success of Android is partially a result of Droid does commercials, but as well as other Manufacturers adopting Android. Without Companies like LG Motorola HTC Samsung and so on taking interest in Android would have gotten old and failed. Even more so Samsung’s new model of being on every carrier has helped tremendously and now that is essentially expanding android. Even more so than that Androids success today is due to variety and customizability, if android was like iPhone in regards to being on 1 carrier only I don’t think it would get anywhere, especially if the one carrier was t-mo because t-mo’s marketing efforts aren’t as good as verizons. T-MObile is about affordability, while Verizon is associated with high end and quality.

    • Anonymous

      can’t agree with a lot of things you said there…

      • Anonymous

        Why not? Its all true.

      • Anonymous

        Why not? Its all true.

  • Ben from Baltimore

    I agree. I have 4 friends that bought Droids after thinking about the IPhone and realizing that AT&T service is crappy outside of urban areas. Verizon has good phones and a reliable network, which make for a successful combination. Speed does not mean reliability, I found that out after having issues with Comcast broadband in Baltimore City, which is a million times worse than Comcast where my half brother lives in Harford County, MD, so I switched back to Cavalier Telephone’s unlimited local and long distance telephone and DSL package and switched my TVs the $50 a month Dish Network package, because there is no Verizon Fios in Baltimore City. I was also one of the first ones in my neighborhood to get a Verizon IPad.

  • Rome Sc

    I am a loyal Tmo customer for 6 years. I currently use a Nexus One on Tmo. But I likely never would have seen an android phone if it weren’t for Verizon’s aggressive droid marketing. “All to often the masses, i.e. the public at large, will equate Android with “Droid,” and that shows the reach of Verizon’s marketing strategy”. Perfectly stated. Thankfully I’m not an average tech user and I do tons of research and didn’t go anywhere near Verizon.

    However, to say that anyone is “single-handedly” responsible for the success of anything is clearly an overstatement. T-Mobile had the first android device, and that’s a bid deal. Sprint currently has what many smartphone users consider to be the top Android Device in the EVO 4G (which has its own enormous marketing campaign).

    The Moto Droid made Android famous and desirable to people who don’t rock pocket-protectors. Unfortunately their ad campaign was so successful that people don’t actually know what “android platform” is. I have known people that were turned away from Non-Verizon carriers when asking “Do you have droids here?”. They weren’t looking for a specific phone, they were thinking that all android phones are called droids.

    If anything Verizon’s greediness/genius convinced the masses that Android is Verizon exclusive through their droid campaign, which is great for Big Red and bad for android overall.

    I don’t like giving Apple credit for anything (despite being a current iPod owner and former iPhone owner) but they changed the game.

    The story of Android: Apple set the bar, T-Mobile innovated, Verizon made famous.

    • Rob

      “if anything Verizon’s greediness/genius convinced the masses that Android is Verizon exclusive through their droid campaign, which is great for Big Red and bad for android overall.”

      So damn true. The average consumer calls it a droid. When i talk phones to people they don’t respond to android (I get a hell of a funny look) i have to explain it through the droid.

      • Tcontento

        So true Rob, even commercials on the radio say, “you can use this app on the iphone, blackberry, or droid.” (like those of other android phones won’t be able to use it….). I kind of laugh at it because it just shows the dumbness of the advertiser. So, as with all things, when you speak to the masses you better really know what your saying….. kind of like the War of the World being broadcast over the radio long ago….. dumb people really thought it was real! Way to go Verizon!

  • steve s

    i bought the g1 as soon as it was on presale, because of the iphone…so i think the iphone to some extent…but android wouldve caught on anyway…verizons droid marketing is incredible…turning smartphone’s into beasts….they are part reason as well

  • J

    I somewhat believe so. Verizon over advertised for their “Droid” Series, which all ran on Android. So when most people saw an Android device after this, they probably automatically assumed “Oh look, another Droid!”. So they may have popularized Android even more, but not necessarily in a good way.

  • J

    I somewhat believe so. Verizon over advertised for their “Droid” Series, which all ran on Android. So when most people saw an Android device after this, they probably automatically assumed “Oh look, another Droid!”. So they may have popularized Android even more, but not necessarily in a good way.

  • G1 2 G2

    I for i never liked anything with [ I ] in it
    I’m pc gamer so imac i out.
    i get MY music any where i want so ipod is out.
    And i just couldn’t wait for the G1 to come out. No way was i getting a iphone.

    I will say verizon did a good job getting the name “Droid” out there but i tell people it short for ANDROID !!

  • Pedant mode again. Please learn the difference between to and too. Thanks ever so! To means going in a direction. Too means also.

    • Jgomezsti

      Who fucken cares joseph!

  • 4G OR NOT TO 4G

    T-Mobile can take a lot of credit for taking the first chance with Android, but from then on all T-Mo/Sprint/At&T would release toy Android phones. It wasn’t until Verizon came out with a solid spec device that truly elevated the status of Android phones making the world take notice, at which time other carriers started pushing high end phones…Look how long we complained to T-Mobile to start delivering high end phones…it was very upsetting for a while. So yes, Verizon with their large customer base and quality phones, had a lot to do with elevating Android to the stratosphere

    • Albertov12

      so true so true, I work for tmo, and I came over from sprint. and the line up for tmo was so bad at the time…lol thank verizon, but t-mo is better.

    • thaghost

      +10

      yea, what he said

  • phonegeek

    Only speaking form myself, I only purchased my mytouch 1st gen due to the g1 and Iphone. Must admit though the “droid” campaign made its mark, it didnt make a mark with me

  • Fiorellm

    I would contend we would have to give google credit for androids success. Google didn’t restrict the android market place to one carrier as apple’s iphone. They opened the platform to T-mobile, Sprint, Verizon which created competition between the phone manufactures to create better divices for the android platform. Samsung, Motorola, HTC all make devices that are competing using android software. Verizon had a great advertising campaign for there product as they always do but they are not responsible for the success of android, Google is the real Winner. This is the rise of android and the death of the iphone. Iphone=motorola v3 razor.

  • Bobert

    Does david sit around all day copying other articles?

  • Jeremy

    I give credit to Apple, Google, and Verizon. Apple for pushing the envelope. Google for giving us an alternative. Verizon for spreading the word.

  • Leaponover

    I agree that no one is single handedly responsible for Android. As a techie, I knew about Android’s beginnings before there was a phone on the market. I was an early adopter of the G1. None of the people I associate with refer to Android as the “droid” phone and associate it with Verizon. I have actually never heard anybody say that before. I think the Nexus One had a big impact on Android’s publicity because of the fact that it was the first phone that was coming out on multiple carriers. It was supposed to come out on Verizon and At&t but never hit Verizon. That put Android on the map, and you can say that maybe it’s because it was going to be released on Verizon but it never was, so i think that’s a shallow argument. In the end, no one beats Tmobile’s customer service, their cost, and as of now the speed of the network in areas that have it. Sure, there are areas that are still lacking in coverage but if you take the overall experience of the network there is enough pros in tmobile to ignore those of you who decided to live in the “sticks” (haha!)

  • Johnstevedoe

    Really? Sales of Android handsets pale in comparison to the iPhone?

    http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/android-soars-but-iphone-still-most-desired-as-smartphones-grab-25-of-u-s-mobile-market/

    http://gizmodo.com/5535502/android-surpasses-iphones-sales-for-q12010 (This second one is a report for Q1 2010, and Android has been growing at an insane rate since then).

    May wanna fact-check before you post an article.

    • Dedren

      I believe he meant Android sales on AT&T. I am sure everyone knows that Android is outselling iPhones on the whole.

    • Dedren is right, I was specifically talking about Android sales on AT&T and I thought that was pretty clear in the article?!

  • Mykeld

    Just a random thought, what would have happened if George Lucas said, “No, you can’t use the word Droid.”.

  • Mr. V

    “Point in case?” Perhaps David intended use “Case in Point.” As for Verizon’s “singlehanded” responsibility for the success of Android, that is impossible. It is a combination of factors: 1) google had to make an OS that actually worked. 2) Apple contributed by opening up a new market, as David pointed out. 3) AT&T contributed by making the speeds on iPhone so painful that watching YouTube on a Droid on Verizon looked amazing. And 4) Verizon auto-turned “DROID” into everyone’s minds creating the necessary association between Google Android and Awesome Smartphone. T-Mobile, the pioneer with the G1, sat on its hands the way GM did with it’s first electric cars while Toyota took off and ran away with the Prius success. It is unfortunate that TMO USA wasn’t able to parlay its success with the introduction of the first Google-phone (as they are often called here in Europe, since there is no Verizon Droid line) into permanent brand awareness, but hopefully they can convince people that with exclusive features like UMA, they are better than the rest. Verizon and Sprint’s Mini-HotSpots are really catching one, and Tmo should put out a device that showcases HSPA+ sharing the net with three teenagers on laptops in the backseat. That might put them back on track.

    • Mr. V

      fingers too cold in Amsterdam to type, I meant “auto-TUNED” and “catching ON”, sorry for correction.

    • Absolutely positively dropped the ball on that phrase, I’ve corrected!

    • Mark

      If you’re giving credit to Google, you really need to extend credit as well to Linus Torvalds and the hundreds of open-source developers who have worked on the Linux kernel over the years. Yes, Google created the userspace, but most of the core operating system they got for free.

      Verizon’s size and marketing helped bigtime in two areas: they took the initiative to license the Droid trademark from Lucas Arts, and their marketing took on Apple’s closed-loop biosphere heads on (i.e., “iCan’t; Droid Does!”) while Magenta was showing us how pretty their phones were when you made the case match the wallpaper.

    • Mark

      If you’re giving credit to Google, you really need to extend credit as well to Linus Torvalds and the hundreds of open-source developers who have worked on the Linux kernel over the years. Yes, Google created the userspace, but most of the core operating system they got for free.

      Verizon’s size and marketing helped bigtime in two areas: they took the initiative to license the Droid trademark from Lucas Arts, and their marketing took on Apple’s closed-loop biosphere heads on (i.e., “iCan’t; Droid Does!”) while Magenta was showing us how pretty their phones were when you made the case match the wallpaper.

  • ihatefanboys

    Verizon is “self-sucking” as it were, “Blowing its own horn”, whichever phrase u prefer. Next, theyll say they helped develop android 2.3 when it comes out. They had awesome commercials, but unlike u phone geeks, most people (myself included) dont jump from carrier to carrier for every new phone that comes out. Android impressed me with the G1, despite what u guys call its shortcomings, plus the ad campaign for the G1 was quite good, “droid does” good ? no, but good ? yes. After over 2 years of being around we’ve been spoiled with android’s awesomeness, but when the G1 came out , android like any new company wasnt guaranteed to be successful. u say tmo droppd the ball ? i say they knew they had something special, but on the same hand they were cautious..they created the foundation, verizon built upon that foundation. tmo built upon that building, and so on and so forth….they each build here and there, but ultimately the success of android has to goto android itself, without the operating system itself, no carrier would be able to claim anything.

  • sprinTmobile

    i agree with the OP.apple needed competition and they got it,which is Android but not “droid”.”droid” is used by owners of motorola or verizon.

  • Ms_Matrix

    I think Tmo could have claim credit for putting android on the map since they had the G1 first but what messed them up was the fact that the marketing team really didn’t do enough to push it. People had it but at the time it was limited. To me people (including me) took notice when Verizon came out with the Droid phone. They built up a hype around that phone and made everyone take notice.

    Im on tmobile, but I didn’t get an android phone until later. Since my cousin is on Verizon I remembered telling him to check it out, he did and he’s still in love with it.

    Right now it just comes down to the best deal and price in plan to which you decide what phone you get. Yes Verizon has more higher ended phones but Tmo has affordable plans even if the phone design may not be the greatest. I guess you just get the one that’s best for you.

  • Sleeping Beastly

    iPhone made Android necessary.
    T-Mobile made Android possible.
    Verizon made Android popular.

    • jesus houston mx

      nice one !

    • jesus houston mx

      i agree!

    • Maddhaitian

      Exactly!
      I have t-mobile but i totaly agree.Those Droid commercials pushed Adndroid beyond anything t-mobile could ever do!! Look at tmobile now. They havea pretty cool phone (mytouch 4g) and little to no hoopla or hype! its sad!

    • Crey23

      Agree 100%!!!

      Sorry guys, but T-Mo did nothing for Android device nor market. The reason that Android platforms has grown so much over the part year has been the VRZ adds.

      Lets note that TMO is the smallest of the companies, and it was not until the MT4G that they did any advertising….hell the G2 barely got any ads, if any. It was not until the new CEO came on board that T-Mo has come out kicking creating an image and a presence in market. Most of us are with T-Mo bcs of their great plans, not bcs of their devices….hell it took them years to brim BB into the list of products. Up till a year ago the best phone they had to offer was a blackberry that had been out on other carriers for months.

      T-Mobile might have launched the first Android device, but Verizon Launched Android Platform to the masses.

  • Tmobile gave android its start, but their marketing plans and advertising sucked. i had the g1 when it 1st came out, was with tmo for years (now with sprint/epic4g) and i knew from then the potential android had. Verizons droid series is what got android so popular. If tmobile would have had an “edgy” name for their flagship phones they could have been the ones responsible for android success. “mytouch” series just does cut it. hell the “G” series could have worked, after the g1 they should have milked the G for their flagship phones. we should have been on like the G5 right now, that sounds a lot cooler than mytouch.

  • Tmobile gave android its start, but their marketing plans and advertising sucked. i had the g1 when it 1st came out, was with tmo for years (now with sprint/epic4g) and i knew from then the potential android had. Verizons droid series is what got android so popular. If tmobile would have had an “edgy” name for their flagship phones they could have been the ones responsible for android success. “mytouch” series just does cut it. hell the “G” series could have worked, after the g1 they should have milked the G for their flagship phones. we should have been on like the G5 right now, that sounds a lot cooler than mytouch.

  • 2Noob4U

    Yeah wow. Never mind the G1 that got everything started. I find it really funny how the iPhone was pretty much the catalyst for the whole thing. Verizon holds the market share and believes they call the shots.

    It’s called competitive market and everyone is trying to lay claim. Worse than 19th century gold prospectors….

  • T-Mobile hands down started it. Verizon had originally turned down Google’s offer because the platform was not developed. Only after T-Mobile’s G1 and the myTouch showed there was success in the platform did Verizon want a piece of the cake. Verizon is just as bad as AT&T when they cry of who is better… The fact remains that T-Mobile and HTC seen potential in Android and made it a success with the original G1 device.

  • Drew

    The only thing Vzw is responsible for is gouging their customers (I reference a recent class action lawsuit against them in which they tried to appeal but still ended up paying $21M), crippling their phones and finally but reluctantly coming around to putting Wi-fi on their Blackberry’s because their “Company Line” was they didn’t need Wi-fi because their “network was so good”. F*** Verizon!!

  • anonymous rep

    id have to say the success of android made the success of verizon possible. verizon didnt make the phones htc and motorola did with the google operating system they just sold them and did a very good job of advertising them. dont claim the success of a great product just because you called it droid and made it sound cool

  • anonymous rep

    id have to say the success of android made the success of verizon possible. verizon didnt make the phones htc and motorola did with the google operating system they just sold them and did a very good job of advertising them. dont claim the success of a great product just because you called it droid and made it sound cool

  • Maarnold1775

    Verizon is right! TMO started it all, but Verizon took the ball and ran with it.

    • Anonymous

      There would be no ball to run with if T-Mobile didn’t have the balls to start. Verizon might have a few great devices but T-Mobile IMO has the best. Nexus One (any educated Android owner wants this device) MyTouch 4G, G2, Vibrant, and I can go on. Let me not forget the upcoming Nexus S, I just rested my case.
      Thank You T-Mobile, owners of the fastest and most affordable Network going.

  • oneandonly

    google is responsible, they bought the platform and made it what it is today.

  • VZW has much-hyped Droid family, but T-Mobile has full line of Android phones to cover all classes.Basic ($300 and below): moto charm, LG Optimus T, Huawei CometMiddle ($300-$450): moto Defy, MyTouch 3.5mm, MyTouch Slide, samsung BH II, samsung i7500*, G1High end ($450 and above): G2, samsung vibrant, nexus one*, nexus S*, MyTouch 4, moto XT720*, SE X10i*all prices are in MSRP or no-contract.* unlocked phones

    Wait…are we forgetting Sprint?
    Ignore ATT, their Android lineup sucks.

  • Anonymous

    Google and T-Mobile should get all the praise for the success of Android. The first Android device was started at T-Mobile when no other Network cared or wanted the Android platform. I own the Nexus One that is also involved with T-Mobile but more importantly the first device was a T-Mobile product and that alone says it all.
    Thank You T-Mobile.
    PS They have the best and fastest Network above all others. My Nexus One smokes it’s so freaken fast. Ouch, just burned me it is so fast.

  • Tyrone M Jackson

    Certainly not T-Mobile. The myTouch 3G Slide has been slated to get Android 2.2 “soon” since the slide’s release 6 months ago to fix the major deficiency of not routing calls over WiFi like a lot of T-Mobile’s non-Android phones do. So far, T-Mobile has not devoted sufficient resources to the task of updating all of it’s Android line dogged with 2.1 and earlier.

  • Timroell

    I say all the manufacturers should get credit and especially HTC for taking the risk for producing products that we all enjoy!!!

  • Timroell

    I say all the manufacturers should get credit and especially HTC for taking the risk for producing products that we all enjoy!!!

  • Blakkvi

    As a T-Mobile customer, I’d actually agree that VZW is responsible for the Android-rise as much as the Iphone is. T-Mo may have start the trend, but they failed and fell hard in being the trend setter. It’s like a bully a baseball cap from a nerd and making it look cooler than when the nerd wore it. T-Mo has been left in the dust when it comes to an android device that has not only style in its looks but also functionality like the other carriers have. It’s sad but true no matter how much I love em as a carrier.

  • DeathStarKiller

    Actually, Google is responsible for Android’s success. They created it. Yes, Verizon made a half-assed marketing campaign using boring Star Wars to appeal to the the millions of virgin nerds out there who use Android. big Deal. Verizon inhales man sausage daily. No one with options chooses Verizon over Tmobile. Only an idiot would choose to pay 3x as much for half the coverage,. Yes, verizon has good coverage in cities. But So does every other carrier. As far as who is responsible for the success of Android, look no further than Google, the creators. Simple as that. Verizon sucks donkeyballs daily.

  • DeathStarKiller

    p.s. “DROID” SUCKS. all versions suck. If its made by motorola, its JUNK. simple as that. mytouch4g could smoke a droid, guaranteed. Just pitted a mt4g against a Droid X AND a PRO, MT4G won in almost every category. So i really dont see why anyone thinks Droids are better than any other android phone. Having an idiotic robot name doesn’t make it perform any better.

  • Pokershark

    As much as I hate to admit it, I would agree. In order for the world to truely know whats going on you have to do mass advertising. The only reason Verizon acts that why is because they can. It is really a miss on T-Mobiles behalf because they could of been the ones leading the charge. It really stinks that tmobile started it and is a big player but we dont get the credit because we do not market the way we should. DeathStar very true but if no one knows it, you seem like a hater.

  • Roboito

    We all know that T-Mo took Android under its wing and gave it its start and helped nurture it to what it is today. Who knows where Android would be without T-Mo? Perhaps it would have never taken off and stumbled too much to really be successful. However, to the ‘masses’ – those who don’t really pay a heck of a lot of attention to phones in development but instead to what is marketed and released and out there to see and hold in-store, the Verizon marketing for the Droid line put the Android platform at the forefront of the masses mind. That’s how many people still think a ‘Droid’ phone could be a myTouch, or an EVO, etc. As much as I don’t like VZW and how expensive they are, their marketing took T-Mobile’s introduction of Android and made it as well known as it is today.

    True, Apple was the first one to bring about some eal change and innovation in the cell phone market. Android came up quickly and answered the call for competition, now able to match iOS step for step, even plus some. RIM and the others are playing some hardcore catch-up still because they were caught sleeping on the sidelines.

    Although I don’t think that Verizon can claim that they singlehandedly got Android off the ground and to where it is today, their marketing for their Droid line – making it as well known as it is today, as well as even their ads for Google’s App Market (to be used on their Droids) has significantly given the Andorid platform momentum.

    Now if only T-Mo could come up with some awesome mass market serious TV advertising to show how much they have been and are in the Android game… It’s time to unleash some T-Mo exclusive superphone that will solidly dominate the radio and TV airwaves and phone market for the next 9 months.

  • Asfsad

    android is beating iphone and blackberry hands down WORLDWIDE (for example, more than 50% of new phones in china, the fastest and largest growing market for cells in android) and you think VERIZON is responsible? bwahahahahaha……