Forget HSPA+ And LTE, LTHE Is The Way To Go

Sure, HSPA+ is all the rage right now for T-Mobile, but what about the future?  While HSPA+ can reach 42Mbps, what will T-Mobile do when LTE starts to really take off?  As always, though, T-Mobile has us covered.  Today T-Mobile announce a partnership with Nokia Siemens Networks to help deliver Long Term HSPA Evolution, or LTHE.  We are talking speeds of 650 Mbps that could be ready by 2013, theoretically.  Here I thought my HSPA+ speeds were doing the trick, not so much anymore.  One of the better parts of this development is backward compatibility, so you shouldn’t need new hardware like what those other two carriers make you purchase.  There are a bunch of other (really boring) facts about LTHE, but you can read those your self.  Press release down bellow and don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments!

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T-Mobile USA, Nokia Siemens Networks drive evolution of HSPA

Mobile leaders promote standardization of Long Term HSPA Evolution to unleash speeds of more than 650 Mbps

Operators would be able to achieve peak data rates of more than 650 megabits per second (Mbps), thanks to an HSPA standard being driven by T-Mobile USA and Nokia Siemens Networks. Long Term HSPA Evolution would improve mobile broadband with speeds matching those promised by LTE Advanced. T-Mobile USA and Nokia Siemens Networks are driving the technology’s standardization aiming to make it available for commercial deployment by 2013.

The proposed key features of Long Term HSPA Evolution were accepted during the plenary meeting of 3GPP RAN held on 7-10 December, 2010*.

“We strongly believe in continued HSPA evolution in parallel to the further development of LTE and LTE Advanced,” said Neville Ray, chief technology officer, T-Mobile USA. ‘’Long Term HSPA Evolution will allow us to enhance our 4G mobile broadband network beyond its current and planned near term capabilities, and provide room for considerable growth and speed enhancements. As customer demand for wireless data increases, we are well positioned to compete based on the speed, breadth and evolution path of our mobile broadband service.”

“The demand for higher data rates and mobile broadband growth continues to push the need for advances in both HSPA and LTE technologies,” added Keith Sutton, head of the WCDMA business line for Nokia Siemens Networks. “We are thus equally committed to both technologies. As a leader in HSPA evolution, we have already demonstrated data rates exceeding 100 Mbps at the Mobile World Congress earlier this year. Today, we also have the largest number of HSPA customers with nearly 200 operators worldwide. Driving the standardization of the new technology is a natural extension of our efforts to realize the full potential of HSPA.”

Nokia Siemens Networks’ Single Radio Access Network (RAN) platform is already prepared for Long Term HSPA Evolution. Operators would have a smooth evolution path to handle increased network traffic along with controlling costs with the introduction of the new technology.

In addition, all Long Term HSPA Evolution features are backwards compatible and can be used together with existing WCDMA and HSPA mobiles on the same carriers.

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  • Soonereclipes

    You know whats funny? Verizon is claiming to be the fastest 4g. and yet they barely have it!!!! Sooo lame. haha

    • Cccheel

      What’s lame is T-Mo’s 3G coverage for those not in major cities.

      • Bratty

        You know what else is lame? Small airport sizes and lack of flight options for those not in major cities. I guess we need to go yell at Obama now! Quit your whining about everything. If you prefer another network, go with them. This is a positive news story about what is coming ahead. Wanna bitch about froyo updates while you are at it? Loser.

        • Aroma

          Dude take it easy. Verizon is lame for the reason you said. But Tmo doesn’t get off the hook neither. That’s all he is saying. Honestly I have a G2 mainly cause of the hardware, and I’d rather have 3g everywhere I go, than have HSPA+ in some areas, and in most others EDGE. If I want to download something that needs high bandwidth I just use my home connection. I’m sticking to Tmo cause att data rate are insanely high. And where I am at (Isabela, Puerto Rico) there’s only edge, but this time next year I’ll most likely have 4g. I’ll just wait, But some others won’t

        • Bratty

          Aroma – you get it, Cccheel dingbat doesn’t.

          Cccheel: “I don’t go to another network because I have a grandfathered TMo plan that is cheap. That doesn’t mean that I can’t complain about TMo’s pathetic Edge network speeds. ”
          Thats exactly what it means. If you choose to stick with TMo, you stick with their service. Don’t like it, leave. It really is simple but you would rather be a lil whiny loser.

        • Cccheel

          Wow, you don’t know much about reading comprehension, do you? I stay with TMo for purely economic reasons. TMo’s resources should be put into developing their infrastructure (3G), not trying to get the fastest speeds to a small amount of people. Next, you’ll tell me that if I don’t agree with every policy by our government, I should more to another country, huh?

          You shouldn’t open your mouth and make yourself sound so stupid, bratty.

        • Bratty

          You stupid or something? You have a choice – you can leave TMo or choose to stay and be miserable. Do I need to walk you through this one again? You choose is to stay and whine. That is all I claimed dingdong.

          Oh and by the way, large metro areas have larger populations so your statement “trying to get the fastest speeds to a small amount of people” is dumber than your original whine.
          I guess you are a loser.

        • WhoaWhoaWhoa

          Well, also having the nation’s fastest/largest network is important, for advertisement reasons. You can’t advertise your speed if you’re not the fastest. I agree with you 100%, but we also need to consider better advertising = more customers = more money = ability to improve infrastructure faster in the future

        • Bratty

          Aroma – you get it, Cccheel dingbat doesn’t.

          Cccheel: “I don’t go to another network because I have a grandfathered TMo plan that is cheap. That doesn’t mean that I can’t complain about TMo’s pathetic Edge network speeds. ”
          Thats exactly what it means. If you choose to stick with TMo, you stick with their service. Don’t like it, leave. It really is simple but you would rather be a lil whiny loser.

        • Cccheel

          No, that’s not lame. I fly a couple of times a year. I use my phone everyday. TMo can shout all they want about their blazing fast “4G” network. Until they put more money in expanding their actual 3G network, they will continue to be little brother to all the other cellphone providers. I don’t go to another network because I have a grandfathered TMo plan that is cheap. That doesn’t mean that I can’t complain about TMo’s pathetic Edge network speeds. And yes, not having Froyo is BS, too. TMo needs to get it together or they will continue to lose customers. They keep catering to the 15-yr old tennie-boppers and not real users. O yea, and only a real loser goes onto a comments section online and calls someone else a loser.

        • Anonymous

          and you just call him a loser……..?……..

        • Cccheel

          No, I made a statement.

    • Cccheel

      What’s lame is T-Mo’s 3G coverage for those not in major cities.

    • Anonymous

      Verizon claims to have the world’s largest 4G network….. LTE…..
      http://news.vzw.com/news/2010/12/pr2010-11-30a.html

      • Anonymous

        there more 4g then tmobile being 4g or not there the closet to the real thing we get some pretty nice speed on tmobile though lte is 3.75 or 3.9g tmobile is 3.5g

  • CBETSO

    What the Fu**. I think I need to change my pants. Thank I god I choice to stink around.

    • http://news.netapex.org NetApex

      Beautiful typo “I need to change my pants. Thank I god I choice to stink around.”

  • http://cosmicbreeze.tumblr.com/ DtheArtist

    T-Mobile is always on top of it. Calls us #4, but yet we are beating #3, & #2, & close as far as performance & customer service as #1. So, you have to at least consider us #2 :D. There is strength & numbers, but I always considered T-Mobile the underdog or “Thomas the little engine that could.” :)

  • the.respawn

    I almost fainted when I read this. Take that all you doubters and naysayers! Go T-Mobile go!

  • the.respawn

    I almost fainted when I read this. Take that all you doubters and naysayers! Go T-Mobile go!

  • http://twitter.com/Lawless_1 Lawless_1

    672MBps? What’s it matter with a 5GB cap? Yaay I can be throttled in less than 10 seconds now.

    • Anonymous

      Part of the reason for the cap is because the network can’t handle too much traffic, but when 600+Mbps is possible, we can have 200Mbps with little or no limits.

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        I was gonna say that but I’ll just like your comment instead.

  • Seismic Gelatin

    There will soon come a time when speed doesn’t matter because data plans will still be soft-capped at 5gb.

    • http://www.brettschulte.com/ Brett Schulte

      I’m sure we’ll be able to buy as MUCH as we can afford. ;)

    • Anonymous

      As I wrote above, the cap is in place to relieve a network that can’t handle too much traffic at high speeds, but with that kind of throughput, the caps will become less and less necessary. Sure, the could keep it in place to charge more for a higher cap, but T-Mobile seems to understand the economics of undercutting its more expensive competition.

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        The only real issue I see with this happening is that years from now what if devices still are stuck being at 14mbps or 7.2mbps? I think the 650mbps is going to be more for laptops than phones. I mean its great that these speeds will eventually happen but will devices be able to make use of it?

  • blah

    Glad to hear the HSPA-E move! Congrats everybody, need to see the specs to determine if its up to 4G specs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511738923 Jeff Walenta

    what worries me is that tmobile is eventually going to be late to the game when they finally decide to roll out an LTE network ….the speeds will be comparable but we will still have a fragmented network situation in the US …att and verizon on LTE sprint on wimax and tmobile pushing hspa for as long as possible

    it would be nice to think that the us would eventually resemble europe as far as handset compatibility but it looks like its going to be a log time coming

    • Anonymous

      It’s the SAME WCDMA/UTMS/HSPA tech already in place.

      If you didn’t notice with the speeds this tech is providing LTE is not in T-Mobile’s future. Duhhhhhhhh

      • Anonymous

        same almost exact as endgadget’s

      • J-Hop2o6

        noooooooooo.. i want the NEW tech!! LTE= E-UTRAN/OFDMA/OFDM/packet switching/etc.. what good is 300+mbps if most websites (even torrents) are limited in bandwidth? avg is around 5mbps of website bandwidth (until the website is at high capacity)..

        TMO!! get off of WCDMA air interface!! and go with E-UTRAN!!

  • BigMixxx

    THIS IS BEAST (as my eldest child would say).

  • Anonymous

    I think this is great. I don’t think T-Mobile will be “late in the game” per se; they are skipping LTE and making it LTHE…it will be a better technology when it’s all said and done.

    Patience is a virtue. And that’s how you win — calculated!

    Well done, T-Mobile—Let’s Go!!!

  • Jkspike3

    Can you imagine what an add on data rate plan would be? Screw it, I’m a loyal Magenta subscriber ill pay $60 extra a month to have some super fast speeds. Any even if you get throttled, your still going to have some amazing speeds.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      As long as they have a 50gb plan for $20 by then I’m cool I think that should cover everything an android does unlike these plans but who knows android may be replaced with meego by then or even windows phone 7.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      As long as they have a 50gb plan for $20 by then I’m cool I think that should cover everything an android does unlike these plans but who knows android may be replaced with meego by then or even windows phone 7.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      As long as they have a 50gb plan for $20 by then I’m cool I think that should cover everything an android does unlike these plans but who knows android may be replaced with meego by then or even windows phone 7.

  • Sleeping Beastly

    What concerns me is international compatibility. Will LTHE be compatible with other countries’ 4G networks?

    • Danny

      This doesn’t matter as long as the handset has access to dual technologies and access to multiple frequency bands.

      In the future chip vendors will be able to make all smart phones mutli mode and capable of multiple technologies much easier than today and at less cost.

      It’s up to the carriers and manufacturuers to produce these phones.

      The technology exists right now to add the 850/1900 MHz UMTS bands to T-Mobile phones but so far they choose to leave these bands out on most of their devices.

    • MW

      many other countries have also upgraded to HSAP+, as they have come late to the 3G party like T-Mobile did. For this reason, there maybe a very large worldwide acceptance of this technology, as those companies will have the same situation as T-Mobile…Case in point, I was just in the country of Panama, which all the carriers were advertising HSPA+, so they can upgrade to LTHE or pay the money to upgrade to full 4G…I think they will take the less expensive path.

  • Anonymous

    I am a very happy T-Mobile customer enjoying their super fast network. I have a Nexus One and the new MyTouch 4G and my down load speeds are so fast my phones are smoking. My upload speed is a very stable 1.4 mb. The download speeds are between 3.7 to over 7.0 mb. These speeds are during the day wen data traffic is at it’s busiest.
    THANK YOU T-MOBILE.

    • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

      my upload is never lower then1.5 on hspa+ and downlink is almost never lower then 5 and i get top speeds of 8-10 i love it

  • Anonymous

    “backward compatibility” I love the sound of that!

    • OneUpDave

      I think that’s the deciding factor for me in terms of waiting for T-Mobile’s new technology.

  • Anonymous

    “backward compatibility” I love the sound of that!

  • Guest

    LTBE -Long Term Broadband Evolution – 5TB second download speeds!!! JK

  • Guest

    LTBE -Long Term Broadband Evolution – 5TB second download speeds!!! JK

  • Anonymous

    while faster DL speeds are great, is 640Mbps really needed? will anyone notice a speed performance over say 25-50Mbps? most home internet connections are not much more than 20Mbps – are people really complaining that they need 50 or 100Mbps speeds?

    • OneUpDave

      Ask 1995 whether 1Mbps downloads were really needed. I mean, you don’t notice much of a speed performance over 56k. Also, while you’re there, see what they think about 1GB hard drives.

      • Anonymous

        That’s over 15 yrs, not 2 years. Most people will still be under contract with a Comet or MT3G. I’d rather see TMO invest in expanding the coverage rather than going much over 84Mbps. Coverage is the biggest gripe (or myth) most non-TMO people have.

        • Marshall834

          Agreed, but technology is growing at an exponential rate today. What took 10 years to develop 20 years ago, took 5 years to develop 10 years ago, and takes 2 years to develop now. That can be seen with VHS to DVD to BluRay with the adoption rate more rapid than the last. With YouTube supporting 4K+ resolutions, it can’t be that far off…

        • http://twitter.com/t1h5ta3 brian pyeatt

          when they drop new towers, what would you rather have them put in them? new state of the art tech, or continure rolling out more edge based towers?
          as a buisness solution wich makes more sence? build new stuff with old tech, or build to acomidate tomorows tech?

        • Bart The Truth

          I hope the towers are not fragile. If they get dropped, they might break. I would also suggest using Microsoft Word before you post. It will allow you to sound less dumb.

        • http://twitter.com/t1h5ta3 brian pyeatt

          when they drop new towers, what would you rather have them put in them? new state of the art tech, or continure rolling out more edge based towers?
          as a buisness solution wich makes more sence? build new stuff with old tech, or build to acomidate tomorows tech?

      • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

        ok you can go back to dial-up good luck with youtube webcam and and flash content but you do have a point in away after 25-30 down and 3-5 up you really wont notice the differences without a speed test

        • Adamsbrentd

          I dont think you get OneUpDave’s sarcasm

        • Adamsbrentd

          I dont think you get OneUpDave’s sarcasm

    • http://twitter.com/mlococo Michael Lococo

      As video calling and streaming movies and other media become more and more prevalent the higher speed will really be a great benefit. By Summer this will be the norm. By next Christmas We’ll be looking for more… In two years it might seem slow… :-) …..uuuuuhhh maybe not! :-)

    • Loadinmypants

      Well, waiting 3 seconds for my facebook page to load is absolutely disgusting. It needs to be instant

    • chris

      640 Mbps is what the network will run on, not the phone. It is needed because you need the network to be able to handle A LOT of users. When everyone is one a network running 640 Mbps, you can say if there are 640 users sharing a cell cite at a time (which shouldn’t happen since their switch should be able to put everyone in different AP at one point), they would get each 1 Mbps or if a power hogger is in there he would prolly take 5 Mbps while the other bogs down to .70 or less. You need the whole network to be at faster speeds so that each user can experience a decent speed.

      Just try this at home, your current ISP might be giving you 12 – 25 Mbps down.
      Try this test and traffic on your home network,
      1) Download a movie online – blockbuster or something or torrent it.
      2) Open your PS3/Xbox/PC/Mac – Play some MMO games or any FPS multiplayers
      3) have your parents/kids or everyone in the house do some facebook, video chat, anything that constantly pulls data.
      and lastly
      4) do this command in 50 or so windows ping 192.168.2.1 -l 64000 -w 100

      Let’s see how well your 12-25 Mbps dl speed last!

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        While I do agree to an extent, there is no doubt that t-mobile will upgrade their devices alone with their towers. I would expect their devices to make use of 168mbps at least by then while using 650+mbps

        And all 7.2 devices would top out always.

    • chris

      640 Mbps is what the network will run on, not the phone. It is needed because you need the network to be able to handle A LOT of users. When everyone is one a network running 640 Mbps, you can say if there are 640 users sharing a cell cite at a time (which shouldn’t happen since their switch should be able to put everyone in different AP at one point), they would get each 1 Mbps or if a power hogger is in there he would prolly take 5 Mbps while the other bogs down to .70 or less. You need the whole network to be at faster speeds so that each user can experience a decent speed.

      Just try this at home, your current ISP might be giving you 12 – 25 Mbps down.
      Try this test and traffic on your home network,
      1) Download a movie online – blockbuster or something or torrent it.
      2) Open your PS3/Xbox/PC/Mac – Play some MMO games or any FPS multiplayers
      3) have your parents/kids or everyone in the house do some facebook, video chat, anything that constantly pulls data.
      and lastly
      4) do this command in 50 or so windows ping 192.168.2.1 -l 64000 -w 100

      Let’s see how well your 12-25 Mbps dl speed last!

  • Danny

    If T-Mobile’s network can pump these types of theoretical speeds in the near future than to hell with these lame 5 GB caps.

    In the future grandmothers will be using 20 GB’s of data while today people who use anything over 5 GB’s are called ‘data hogs.”

    Real soon most new electronic devices (fridges, microwaves, toasters, TV’s) and other appliances will have smart chips in them and will use wireless data to communicate with eachother. We haven’t seen anything yet.

    • Realdeal1205

      Sadly we will miss out on all the great things to come in the future due to a thing called age, I’m on 21 don’t think I will ever see a flying car or flying car high way in my life time,

      • Bob

        Type your comment here

      • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

        The flying car is near but its not as beautiful as we expected.

  • Jordanfritzsche

    That is almost scary! Its like using ludicrous speed!

    • Rob

      Lmao bu we’ve never tested Ludicrous speed before sir, i don’t think we can handle it

  • http://twitter.com/mlococo Michael Lococo

    I’ve got wood! Sounds like a plan! Now if we could just get a 4G Windows Phone!

    • Bart The Truth

      Yay! Everyone Loves a 4G Paperweight

  • NismoRx

    This “Speed War” is crazy son! I haven’t seen a race between powers like this since the US and Russia were stock piling nukes to destroy the world…err…themselves.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjtkbw00 jbjtkbw00

    My goodness. What would we do with that much speed? I’d be in jail. Bottom line. There’s only so much streaming I can do and when I was on FiOS, I couldn’t even tap into all 25MB that I was getting. At 100MB, I’m going to need a new boat….

    • Bart The Truth

      One word. PORN

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      Be happy and eliminate complaints about t-mobile’s network. Pretty much with these speeds all devices will reach max speed as an average. A consistent 21mbps wow be very nice. Youtube videos would load in a snap instead of the usual crap where I gotta wait for it to load. Everything would be so quick.

  • Sanjay

    Crazy. I have the new HD7 and 3G and my video on T-mobile TV would still buffer over and over so I cancelled the service. What is the point of all this? I just don’t get it. Seems like a lot of propaganda. Then they put data caps on so the speed really becomes useless. You just get to the cap faster.

    • Bart The Truth

      If you cancelled service, why do you frequent a T-Mobile blog? This information is on a lot of other tech blogs. It seems you may need some other activities in your life, and maybe some ‘gina.

      • Sanjay

        I cancelled my T-Mobile TV service not my T-Mobile phone service. The point is that they can keep upping the network “theoretical” speeds but it makes no difference if the end user experience (for whatever numerous reasons) does not reflect it.

    • Goukisan

      What does being faster have to do with hitting your cap sooner?
      Where do you get your logic from?
      The whole pt is you get your data faster.
      Just because you drove faster from pt A to pt B than someone else who walked does not mean you travelled further. Just means you got there sooner.
      Downloading my email faster doesnt make me use up more data. Just makes me get it sooner. Caps have nothing to do with that.

    • Goukisan

      What does being faster have to do with hitting your cap sooner?
      Where do you get your logic from?
      The whole pt is you get your data faster.
      Just because you drove faster from pt A to pt B than someone else who walked does not mean you travelled further. Just means you got there sooner.
      Downloading my email faster doesnt make me use up more data. Just makes me get it sooner. Caps have nothing to do with that.

      • Anonymous

        At speeds like these, I doubt you’re going to notice much difference checking your email or loading a web page, but if you start downloading a video file or something, those speeds could blow through the cap quickly. I hit my cap three of my first five months, so I started watching my data. If I start a download and see the file is extremely large, I’ll cancel it and wait until I’m home or on wifi. With these speeds a 500MB file will be done in a few seconds. Ten of those and you’ve hit the 5GB. If you happen to find a 5GB file, not pay attention to the size, it could be done in a little over a minute. (@Sanjay, pretty sure the cap is 5 gigabytes, not bits.)

  • Sanjay

    Crazy. I have the new HD7 and 3G and my video on T-mobile TV would still buffer over and over so I cancelled the service. What is the point of all this? I just don’t get it. Seems like a lot of propaganda. Then they put data caps on so the speed really becomes useless. You just get to the cap faster.

  • Kyoshiro

    Another reason why they might be doing this is because of the tethering option or home internet options they can provide.

    • Jlaigo2

      10 Seconds and you would be over your cap…..

  • Kyoshiro

    Another reason why they might be doing this is because of the tethering option or home internet options they can provide.

  • UC

    Die hard magneta fan, only network in America that allows a customer to do 4 way conference! This will even show how committed magneta is in bringing the best to us. I just wish they can make there signal strenght a lil better, though it works in almost everywhere that i have traveled to

  • UC

    Die hard magneta fan, only network in America that allows a customer to do 4 way conference! This will even show how committed magneta is in bringing the best to us. I just wish they can make there signal strenght a lil better, though it works in almost everywhere that i have traveled to

  • Manusferrera

    tmobile is beast

  • Quailallstar

    When is fast really fast enough? Just crazy!

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      In a rapidly evolving world? Never. 10 years from now people will be talking about TeraBytes per seconds.

    • http://twitter.com/FR35HM1NDZ Jamille Browne

      In a rapidly evolving world? Never. 10 years from now people will be talking about TeraBytes per seconds.

  • Eddie Android

    Yawn……

    Sent from my always-stuck-on-EDGE-Nexus One.

    • Anonymous

      Get a better phone, your Nexus One is always on EDGE because the antenna is garbage.

      • Goukisan

        I have a Nexus One and I am RARELY ever on EDGE in Columbus Ohio. Dont make generalizing statements about things you dont know anything about.

        • Anonymous

          Just because your coverage is strong enough for your phones reception to not matter much doesn’t mean the Nexus One still doesn’t suck because it does.

          RECEPTION matters in places where the COVERAGE is less than ideal.. this happens in larger cities more often.. I’m sure I can find 1 person in Columbus that is “always on EDGE”

  • Kyoshiro82

    Does this mean next year we will start to see the faster speeds?

  • christoph

    i will be happy with 3mbps in lacaster ca lol
    i get shitty .70 here bull crap

  • Kerry

    Wow, that’s impressive. I’m looking forward to the upgrades! What I’d like to see too is additional towers to the outlying area’s to expand coverage. Then TMO can add more users, and existing users can have usable data/calls when on the go.

    We have great coverage where I live and 4G speeds, but if you move off of the I-5 corridor our stray outside of the NW corner of the state coverage is lacking. There’s people living in those area’s that have to have Verizon just to have cell coverage.

    I love TMO and don’t plan on switching, but it something happenend and I had to move to those areas, I’d have to leave TMO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

    wow thats fast i cant wait and in 2 years i will have my upgrade i will defiantly stay with t-mo if there plans for lthe is what they promised

  • FedUp

    Kidding right? How about getting 3G to everyone!!!! TMO is nuts!!!! Why in the world they keep saying the have all this speed when it is only available in major metro areas and the rest of the areas in 2G. It makes as much since as saying that 95 percent of africa has power when it has 0 in most places.

    • Anonymous

      I agree i live in the la area and 3g is pretty inconsistent.. its La if they cant get that to work why are they improving speeds whats the point if none can use it??

      ohh…. so they can advertise high speeds and lower data cap at the same time while most costumers wonder why they don’t get advertised speeds.

      • zeusISdumb

        I think it’s “customers”, not costumers

    • Barney

      It makes sense to hit the most populous areas first. Howevery, interestingly, TMO has a rolled out HSPA+ to more areas than any other carrier. Sorry they aren’t in your area yet, but it’s hard to trash them when they are the smallest carrier out of the big 4, yet have the largest 4G footprint by far. In terms of getting faster coverage to the masses, they are way ahead of the pack.

  • ThreeFourSeven

    I’m actually happy that T-Mobile has someone else building their 4G network. Now they can concentrate on HSPA+ and coverage, especially coverage. I live in Fort Lauderdale and 3G still for a major market.

  • ThreeFourSeven

    Still spotty*

  • Anonymous

    You are a loser. (statement) “Loser”

    Losers call people losers. (statement) “O yea, and only a real loser goes onto a comments section online and calls someone else a loser.”

    … your statement defense seem a bit lacking….

  • LBdaMercenary

    They’re getting ready for the htc tyrant. ;) coming soon.

  • LBdaMercenary

    Hey david or kickstar or anyone else who has the answer…. When is htc dlna adapter going to be released any word? Thanks

  • Jalam1001

    This is all market speak. I live in Youngstown Ohio and a T-mobile customer. I can not even get the 3G I actually pay. All the places I frequent or work I hardly get edge speed. The network drops back to old GPRS.

    • Bart The Truth

      Technically you do not pay for 3G service. You should actually consider moving to another city or state. That way you can get a decent cell signal. It is what everyone is doing these days.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Tmo + Nokia is my dream Team. Sweet that this is for TMo US division as well. Now Tmo needs to quickly move to conceal some of Nokia’s upcoming Meego devices that are capable of using those speeds. Good Job Tmo Us and Nokia. Keep up the teamwork and the good work. Next year is the start of Meego and I can’t wait. :) Absolutely love news of Tmo + Nokia joining. Thanks for the article.

    • Wilma Flintstone

      I meant “secure” not “conceal”.

  • Paco_fbv

    Great Article!

  • http://twitter.com/BlaryPhoto Blary Photography

    This is all silly.
    The theoretical max of HSPA+ is more than anybody will ever need on mobile devices.
    You could probably stream a 1080p 5.1 movie with a 42mbsp connection.

    Unless people start using mobile devices to download Blu-Ray box sets or something, I think HSPA+ should be fine.

    • Anonymous

      Beware of the famous quote attributed to Bill Gates, “No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer.”

      The point is, we don’t know what we’ll need. Technology is accelerating at such an amazing rate. Who’s to say what sort of bandwidth we’ll need on our mobile devices?

  • http://twitter.com/BlaryPhoto Blary Photography

    This is all silly.
    The theoretical max of HSPA+ is more than anybody will ever need on mobile devices.
    You could probably stream a 1080p 5.1 movie with a 42mbsp connection.

    Unless people start using mobile devices to download Blu-Ray box sets or something, I think HSPA+ should be fine.

  • yasuya

    why at that rate, you could bust through your data cap in less than a day!

  • Ferretgal

    I get 5-6Mbps in my part of Indianapolis.