Verizon Claims Fastest 4G Network; How Should T-Mobile Respond?

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Well, what do we have here?  It’s another entry into the “4G” war by big red Verizon herself.  The above image, via Twitter, shows that Verizon is ready to tackle the 4G issue and formally enter the 4G war.  This time the ad hits AT&T where Verizon has enjoyed hitting them in the past, their 3G network.  Anyone remember the “There is a map for that” ad campaign?  While T-Mobile has enjoyed the last few weeks of cheap shots at AT&T about their network and its weaknesses, such fighting back against Verizon could be a whole separate issue.

Of course, AT&T isn’t sitting back as they laid claim today to having 80% of their network covered with HSPA+ 14.4 goodness.  However, they have but one device that can even reach those speeds and it’s a data stick so without any devices, AT&T has little to show off.  The same could be said for Verizon, as they have no LTE phones now and likely for some time.  The thing isT-Mobile can’t hurt Verizon on their network with Verizon widely accepted as the strongest competitor in that arena and while T-Mobile has arguably the most “attractive” ad campaign right now, where do they go from here?  The 4G wars are definitely going to heat up as we push right into the holiday season but it’s next year that the fun should really begin.  One thing is for certain.  When the carriers fight, the customer usually wins.

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  • Rcomander

    Customer definitely wins! T-mobile should focus on smaller markets..where the big players aren’t focusing…

    • Seriously!?!?

      Why can’t people just use the provider of their choice, enjoy it, and just stfu about it?

  • Binfartin

    WoW!!! AT&T is getting punched left and right here. Good for them.

  • SaggyBalls

    T-Mobile should respond exactly how you did above, David. By pointing out that neither Verizon nor AT&T even have “4G” phones. I would ride that marketing horse until they actually got “4G” phones. It cracks me up that Verizon and AT&T are still dismissing T-Mobile, the little engine that could, even after ol’ magenta snuck up on the sleeping giants and smacked ‘em in their heads with a big “4G” hammer.

    • Fly oh My

      well, when they get their ’4g’ phone, whats the argument then?

      p.s. i lol’d at your screenname

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

        Well AT&T will still only be 14.4 HSPA by the time they get their 4G device we will already be on 42mbps HSPA+ so who really cares? and Verizon is said to get between 5-12mbps on average I think we already do that to some extent.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

        Well AT&T will still only be 14.4 HSPA by the time they get their 4G device we will already be on 42mbps HSPA+ so who really cares? and Verizon is said to get between 5-12mbps on average I think we already do that to some extent.

  • Cnass007

    Shits bout to hit the fan.

  • Cnass007

    Shits bout to hit the fan.

  • Nads

    T-MOBILE should respond by bringing the LG “Star” to their lineup with HSPA+ capabilities and leave the hardware as it is now. Enough said.

  • Eveonline88

    Tmobile should respond with plenty of lulz

  • Kingpin05

    I think T-mo should work on filling in the blank spots on their coverage map, and continue to beef up their device line-up. T-Mo should be fine!!!

  • Sunnychen2000

    Tell you the truth. I am in Boston, which i think is HSPA+ area, but I am not getting the 4G speed from the speed test.

  • Not4sakn

    Fastest 4g with no devices to test it. Hmm..

    Theoretical speeds maybe?

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Tmo should respond with the GSM version of this:
    gsmarena.com/samsung_gingerbread_droid_with_45inch_screen_1080p_video-news-2070.php

  • Wilma Flintstone

    Tmo should respond with the GSM version of this:
    gsmarena.com/samsung_gingerbread_droid_with_45inch_screen_1080p_video-news-2070.php

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

      It say HSPA 14.4 oh god I hope that don’t mean AT&T but T-Mobile is the only other HSPA carrier in America so its likely thats ours.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

      It say HSPA 14.4 oh god I hope that don’t mean AT&T but T-Mobile is the only other HSPA carrier in America so its likely thats ours.

    • Tmobilenator

      Hummm that looks fake to me. Some of the app pics look like they were take out from other pics. Also the phone looks like a photoshoped iPhone 4.

  • Not4sakn

    Fastest 4g with no devices to test it. Hmm..

    Theoretical speeds maybe?

  • Anonymous

    They should respond by shutting up and building out their network. Speed doesn’t matter much when the competition is running laps around your coverage.

  • Mtnman

    2011 should be fun, get ready for the 4G Smackdown. My Nefew’s GF works at a Sprint store and durning bowling Sunday she was saying that Sprint is going to sue T-Mobile for saying that they have 4G when in fact they don’t. Weather this is true or not I don’t know, she was telling me of what she heard. But in any advent, seems having 4G service is something that every carrier want’s to tout and get on the bandwagon with.

    Now look for all the “Claims” of “We have the largest/Fastest/Most Relieable/Best 4G Coverage commericals to begin. And of course watch as all of them attack little Tmo, especially AT&T and Verizon. But the two old bulls in the pin will find out they now have a stronger bull to contend with.

    • Danno

      That is too fricken funny…
      How the hell could Sprint sue T-mo for not having a true 4G network when they don’t have one either. lol

      Just goes to show how “gossip” can spur stupid people to talk when they should remain quiet.

      We all know that NONE of the carriers have a true 4G network… and that goes for the LTE being deployed. It will be years before even that will reach true 4G speeds.

    • Danno

      That is too fricken funny…
      How the hell could Sprint sue T-mo for not having a true 4G network when they don’t have one either. lol

      Just goes to show how “gossip” can spur stupid people to talk when they should remain quiet.

      We all know that NONE of the carriers have a true 4G network… and that goes for the LTE being deployed. It will be years before even that will reach true 4G speeds.

    • Eric

      Highly doubt that lawsuit would work. I’m a Tmo Rep and we were told before the ads began the company made sure that they could legally call the HSPA+ network 4G.

      Although it can be argued that HSPA+ is not technically “4G,” neither is Sprint’s WiMax. I remember watching the many Sprint 4G commercials that came out a while back when they barely had WiMax coverage anywhere. At this point Sprint may just be a little jealous they can’t really make claims as the fastest 4G carrier (because HSPA+ can be the same or faster depending on the area) or being the largest 4G carrier.

      But I totally agree that it seems like 4G is going to be the big thing in marketing in the coming months. The more the companies fight, the better our coverage and speeds will get in the long run and we all win!

  • Danno

    Well all I have to say is… PROVE IT!.

    We’ve seen T-mo’s speeds…where are the speed tests to provide Verizon has anything even as fast as Sprint…..

    let the war begin!

  • Danno

    Well all I have to say is… PROVE IT!.

    We’ve seen T-mo’s speeds…where are the speed tests to provide Verizon has anything even as fast as Sprint…..

    let the war begin!

  • Anonymous

    5g!!!!!!!!

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    coming next fall at a tower near you.

  • Anonymous

    For me, price is a little more important than performance. None of the other carriers can come close to T-Mobile’s current deals.

  • JP

    somebody needs to come out and claim to the “worlds” fastest network.

    • Anonymous

      metro pcs …………………………………………………………..

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      JK

  • Shawn

    Verizons will be faster. I’m only getting 1mbps download in minneapolis mn on my mytouch 4g.and yes thee is “4g” here

    • Mike

      same thing with me in Chicago usually i only get 1 mbps,there is no 4G in Chicago

    • Mr.Slide3G

      are u serious dude. Tmob has more then 4Mb per second in some areas :D

    • Not a engineer.

      Your cell site may have not been upgraded to hspa+ yet, but probably is schedualed to be in the near future. I’d stop into a retail store or call customer care and let them know, they probably wont be able to do much about it though. Terrain, distance, weather, voice/data traffic ect. all can play a big part into your data speeds. Hopefully they are planning to fix that for you soon

  • Chris

    I am Verizon fanboy, mainly because I actually still use my Smartphone to call and I love being able to use basically every feature of my phone everywhere at 3G speed and I can’t wait for 4G but I have to say that T-Mobile is my second favorite network because it offers the most BANG for your buck, you get way better coverage with T-Mobile than you do with Metro or Cricket or any of those crap shoots. It doesn’t cost much more than Ghettro or Cricket. And you get the absolute fastest speeds with T-Mobile in Metropolitan areas, which is more than Big Red or the Amazingly Terrible Telecommunications company does. Also I just love to see the other carriers stick it to AT&T because AT&T charges exactly the same as Verizon does, and it offers terrible coverage by comparison.

    • Chris

      GO T-Mobile I am rooting for you!!!

  • Ginadee

    Yep. T-Mobile. Don’t attack Verizon by name or virtue until you upgrade all the GRPS network. They’ll just counter attack you with ads you won’t be able to fight off.

    However keep railing ATT on speeds. Keep mentioning that only T-Mobile has 4G phones.

    Most of all. Accelerate your backhaul deployment nationwide. If LTE is not in the cards over the next 20 months then for God sake make your entire network 21 Mbps HSPA + ready and speed up all metro areas to 42 Mbps next year. Costly yes but you need to invest CAPEX on the foundation of your network that will serve customers for the next 10-15 years.

    Too bad you didn’t buy Qwest when you could to have that Global IP backbone and LD network to use….

  • Juanitas Bean Dip

    Someone mentioned to “beef up” our phone line. We already have to most 4G capable phones. All other carriers only have 1, maybe 2, or zero if your ATT (which has a Laptop Stick). I dont see any laysuits happening since all carriers are bending the rules. If there is a lawsuit, it will be settled out of court and the lawyers will be laughing all the way to the bank.

  • lulz

    Tmo should create an add: tmo to verizon: damn, u got yourself a xxl condom, too bad u cant use it

  • lulz

    Tmo should create an add: tmo to verizon: damn, u got yourself a xxl condom, too bad u cant use it

    • Wewegoinhole

      This is probably the funniest thing I’ve read on here in the time that I’ve been here.

  • MIKEEEEE

    speedtest.net on matching galaxy TABs.

    same device 2 different networks.

    same thing if t-mo gets the iphone.

    same device 2 different networks.

  • c4g

    T-Mobile should make a commercial (Got a 4g network we have a device for that.)

  • c4g

    T-Mobile should make a commercial (Got a 4g network we have a device for that.)

    • David Reyna

      OMG BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

      Pure awesome FTW!!!

  • spidey_geek

    Sounds like retail store store banter We’re gonna sue, Let them—we live in the land of sue-ers..The legal lottery is alive and well in America.

  • Bad T-Mobile

    Really t-mobile should just do what their customers are forced to do, lie down and take it in the rear.

    Bad Service, Bad Products, Bad Choice, That’s t-mobile!

    • Anonymous

      aask J.D. Power about that service, buddy.

      • mike

        i worked at tmobile for years, i quite cause i got fed up with tmobile and all their bs. i work for verizon now, and let me tell you there is a big difference in everything from daily operations are done, to customer service. to get the full story you must work there to experience all the differences Verizon wins in a categories hands down. tmobile must pay jd power off to get that award.

    • Anonymous

      aask J.D. Power about that service, buddy.

    • Mr.Slide3G

      wow are serious. T-Mobile has good customer service and the network is really good. When I said good network it’s talk and data. I just test their network on my android phone through Speedtest app it says almost 4mb per second and I’ve tried other company they not even 1mb how do u like that?- T-mobile is good. I think u made a wrong decision choosing by ur cell device and now u’re upset. Try My Touch 3G Slide thou u wont regret it. One thing is making me upset. It’s the software on it 2.1 instead of 2.2 but it’s all good I know it’s coming out. Peace out.

  • yoo

    im currently with t-moble but im headed to verizon in a couple weeks. t-mobile doesnt have 4g they have hspa+ they need to quit the b.s.

    • Matlock

      Its the same way that one can say Sprint doesnt have 4G either they have Wimax. Your looking too much into the whole 4G thing! all you should really care about is has the fastest speeds, for your specific needs, and I can say that none of my friends that have Sprint Att or VZW can even come close to my data speeds on my G2!

    • Spooln

      No one TECHNICALLY has 4g as it is really defined. However, based on pure speed tests and benchmarks, T-Mo is the closest to 4g over both WiMax and LTE, also, LTE isn’t even really launching till next year. They have very little market spread for their LTE. Also, You need to look at what phones they have that even SUPPORT this new spectrum. So, I think you need to do some more research before you come on here spouting crap you obviously dont really know about.

    • Claragarza

      HSPA+ is a more sustainable and efficient data network than LTE…and both are technically NOT 4G according to technology reports they are just calling it that since it doesn’t sound sexy calling it 3.5G in ads

    • Claragarza

      HSPA+ is a more sustainable and efficient data network than LTE…and both are technically NOT 4G according to technology reports they are just calling it that since it doesn’t sound sexy calling it 3.5G in ads

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1350219741 Derrick Ford

      Verizon is b.s’g you too. LTE Advanced is 4g, not LTE

  • Anonymous

    they should do an ad spoofing Jerry McGuire. Show me the phones!

  • http://twitter.com/Infamous_Chucc Chucc

    Im not to concerned about Verizon, there still the most expensive carrier thats out! Don’t believe me, okay just go compare there pricing plans with Sprint, T-Mobile and AT&T. If I would leave T-Mobile which is my service provider I pay no more then $120.00 for unlimited calling, unlimited web and email, unlimited text and picture messaging, Wifi HotSpot/tethering and equipment insurance. For the same thing with Verizon I would come out the pocket over 150.00. THATS SUCKS

  • TMoFan

    I think it’s great that T-Mobile is being aggressive, but there’s one thing they have that no one else does and that’s VALUE. T-Mobile offers the best deals hands down and they need to start advertising that. Maybe an ad that compares the plans.

    • mike

      best value…. i used to work at tmobile. yes there rate plans are the cheapest but just cause its cheap doesnt mean there is value. i do agree there is value in tmobile but the best, like everything in america you get what you pay for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

    tmo should show there speeds in on tv using the speed test app and have Carly in it just to make the ad hot

  • http://www.facebook.com/MatthewSki Matthew Kalinowski

    tmo should show there speeds in on tv using the speed test app and have Carly in it just to make the ad hot

  • TomCruise

    by first focusing on providing a consistent 3G that works. my network drops back to Edge at the drop of a hat, and I am in center of the 3rd largest city in the USA. It sucks.

  • http://twitter.com/bchalkcom Brandon Chalk

    Sprint did it first :shrug:

    Make 4G 10mbit and 5G 100mbit and force carriers to follow standards from now on out. Problem solved.

    • OneUpDave

      I agree. I’m wondering why the true 4G standard is so far above the current 3G standards. Did they expect carriers to sit on their hands until the right tech came about?

      • http://twitter.com/raitchison raitchison

        Who says we need to have a new “G” every few years? It makes sense for mobile carriers to continue to tweak and refine their existing networks and roll out entirely new technologies every 5 (or more) years.

        • OneUpDave

          Nobody says that, you assumed. I’m just wondering why 4G is such a large leap to 100Mbps. I’m OK with the rest of the proposed specs, but with T-Mobile only approaching half of that theoretical speed next year, It would be quite some time before we’d see a true 4G network. Nobody cares to wait around for that to happen.

        • http://twitter.com/raitchison raitchison

          Maybe it is (or was intended to) drive innovation by setting a high – but attainable goal.

          You could argue that the carriers have short-circuited such an effort by arbitrarily labeling their existing 3G networks “4G” to sell more phones, but I suspect that would not get away with the same shenanigans in Europe.

        • Guest

          2G was defined simply as a digital network as opposed to the orginal analogue networks which were referred to as 1G after 2G technologies were developed. It wasn’t until later versions of GSM and CDMA that data rate were even discussed; GPRS delivered 56 to 115 kbps and 1xRTT delivered 80 to 100 kbps data rates.

          Actual data rate minimums were not even discussed until 3G was being codified and the intent of 2 mbps minimum data rates was declared. This data rate scared the hell out of all of the carriers and there was a great deal of lobbying done to prevent any kind of data rate minimum from being included in the definition of 3G. They even went to the extent to have IMT-2000 include their current fastest networks as being 3G officially, EDGE for GSM and CDMA2000 for CDMA. That’s 236 kbps for GSM networks and 153 kbps for CDMA networks.

          EV-DO Rev.0 was developed to satisfy the 2 mbps goal of IMT-2000 but in practicality no one ever saw more than 700 kbps on EV-DO Rev.0.

          Evolved EDGE was developed to approach the 2 mbps goal of IMT-2000 but only got close to 1 mbps. No networks were ever deployed with Evolved EDGE and instead EDGE networks ran at 236 kbps.

          After the debacle that was 3G, is it any wonder that the standards bodies are taking hard lines on 4G?

        • Dysphoria

          We did. If the number is bigger, it’s better, and marketing appreciates this, because it means you’re more likely to come in. T-Mo made a good company decision in marketing their HSPA+ 21MBPS as 4G. People now know TMo as the other company with a 4G network, and not the company pretending to have the network that’s almost as good as a 4G network. And as noted before, HSPA+ 21 can outperform WiMAX. Not calling a service that runs faster than a system advertised as 4G as something less than 4G is dressing up a performance-grade engine in the frame of a minivan and still expecting it will sell better than a sports car.

  • Ctkm1322

    I have been with tmobile since 2001 and i really like tmobile but i just go the mytouch 4g and i have 4g network in my area and even when i have full bars of service on the hspa+ it only does 1.18 mbps why is that?

    • Imprezaowner27

      Are you sure you have 4G, or are you just saying that because the phone says H?

      I’ve been getting 7- 7.86(max) mb/s in 4G, and considerably less with 3G and edge.

    • pnapoli

      It depends on how busy the cell site is and what type of back haul it has. I know as a consumer this is not your problem but if the cell site is running on T-1′s (like ATT sites do) your data speeds will be slower than if it has a Fiber optic Ethernet data back haul. (Sorry for the techno babble). TMO is still having to upgrade some of their site to Fiber and when that happens your speeds will increase. It is happening fast so be patient.
      also, try toggling Airplane mode on and off. Sometimes this resets the RF chip set and the phone will run faster. Also, don’t just go to Speed test.net. Download the Speed test APP. Their website does not support handsets very well.

    • Dysphoria

      Every place where there’s 3G coverage on the MyTouch says H, because your phone can’t tell the difference between HSDPA and HSPA+ (as they use the same base tech). My suspicion is that you’re in a 3G area when testing your network speeds.

  • http://twitter.com/eb101 Eli Bohnert

    make 4g nation wide!

  • Anonymous

    Theoretically, T-mobile is fastest. However, in actual testing with real experience in real devices, LTE exceeds it significantly in both speed and lower latency (for online multiplayer games).
    T-mobile, don’t try to fight Verizon and AT&T, you won’t win against both giants. Stick to fighting AT&T only, it seems to be working so far anyways.

    Edit:
    Also, Verizon has 4g and T-mobile has basically 3.5g, T-mobile can only say 4g-like-speed, instead of actual 4g like Verizon.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1350219741 Derrick Ford

      LTE Advanced or WiMax 2 is only 4g!!! This fact has already been posted. Verizon’s 1st deployment as with Sprint’s 1st Deployment is not “Technically” 4g. Thus, as to why all carriers are claiming to have something that isn’t here yet. Thus, who ever is fastest win’s the battle…. we just accept the smoke screens being stated by all carriers.

  • johnkzin

    Verizon wins on the 4G battle.

    Why?

    Because they’re the only ones actually deploying a 4G network.

    • Sprint 4G Rocks

      Actually, VZ is still talking about 4G. Sprint has deployed it in 62 markets, nationwide and has two 3G/4G phones and a full portfolio of devices including two 3G/4G embedded laptops. Nearly 2 million Sprint 4G customers to date would say, Sprint has deployed…others have not.

      • Anonymous

        LTE 2 and WIMAX 2 are considered 4G. What they have implemented is close but no cigar.

        • Sprint 4G Rocks

          Walt Mossberg from the Wall Street Journal and All Things Digital summed it up when asked about 4G networks. He wrote, “Sprint has a 4G network in scores of cities across the country…” “Verizon has pledged to introduce 4G service in several dozen cities by year-end.”

          Sprint is the leader in 4G with a network up and operating.

        • Edward Mullens

          Neither is 4G, Sprint or Verizon. LTE Advanced or Wimax 2 ONLY.

        • pnapoli

          Walt is an idiot. There are no 4G networks deployed anywhere in the world nor are there devices being manufactured to support them. LTE and Wimax are not 4G. and they are slower then HSPA+. TMO is at 21Mbs right now and they will be 42Mbs by the summer of next year. As far as coverage is concerned, they cover 96 percent of the country and growing. Verizon is @ 98 and ATT is at 97. For T-Mobile thats not too shabby for a company that is less than 12 years old and was built from the ground up. ATT and verizon are over 25 years old and are way behind TMO on the technology front.

        • http://twitter.com/raitchison raitchison

          Even if TMO can squeeze 42MBps out of HSPA that is still less than half what’s required to legitimately be called 4G.

        • Dysphoria

          What would you do on a phone with a connection greater than 42MBps? Seriously, it’s not like everyone and their mother is torrenting off of their phones. Not to mention, if anyone was running 100MBps and actually using it, do you know how quickly they would go through their max data thresholds? Or how quickly servers would be overloaded? Just ask AT&T on that one :-)

          Really, let’s be honest, the speed contest gets to the point of being a ridiculous pissing contest to try to attract customers. If I can access my website from my phone within fifteen seconds of requesting it, life is golden. Show me a legitimate mainstream (3% of smartphone users would do this if they could) need for a 100MBps connection on a phone and I’ll give you the point, but until then, why does it matter that 100MBPS is the official starting point of 4G?

      • Neoprimal

        WiMax /= 4G and what Sprint has isn’t even as fast as what Tmobile currently has or what Verizon is lighting up. Right now Sprint and ATT are the bottom 2 when it comes to data speed.

    • 4G OR NOT TO 4G

      DON’T, DON’T…DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE…not one of the US carriers will have 4G anytime soon to include the Verizon LTE…they are all using variations of 3G networks

    • http://twitter.com/raitchison raitchison

      No they aren’t cause LTE isn’t 4G any more than HSPA+ is, LTE may have more potential in the long run though.

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Washington/100000190010519 Jeremy Washington

      i agree what phone do you have btw

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

  • Swoosh

    Tmobile needs to look at getting 3g everywhere before worring about 4g. I am sick of this 35k download speed on the gulf coast!

  • davidohio

    verizon is advertising a 4g network (LTE) but has no 4G phones???