T-Mobile HTC HD3/HD7/Mozart Gets A Release Date

We’ve seen in the wild pics, we’ve seen it on video, and we’ve even seen it with a different name, but now its time for a release date which I’m sure some of you WP7 fans are dying for. But first let’s start off with some specs. Recently, there have been rumors that HTC’s Press Event next Wednesday, September 15th in London is regarding its first Windows Phone 7 handset, the HD3. The HD3 which will be a successor to the HTC HD2 is reported to sport a 4.5″ AMOLED touchscreen, dual core 1.5GHz processor, 1GB RAM, 32GB storage, an 8 megapixel camera with HD video recording capabilities, all powered by a 1800mah battery. Keep in mind none of these specs have been confirmed as of yet. As far as a release date goes for the T-Mobile USA version, we’ve been hearing November 17th, but as always that’s subject to change. Don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments!


Tags: , , , , ,

  • Mohammad

    Wow. that’ll be a monster phone. isn’t the hd2 only 4.3 inch? and 1800mhz battery? that’ll last 2 days!

    • Kickstar13

      Yup. Just when I thought 4.3 inches was too big haha.

      • Patrick

        to be completely honest…..4.3″ was pushing the border line. Carrying around a mini LED TV isn’t what I have in mind when I think “cell phone”. 4.5″(though is only .2 inches bigger), is a SIGNIFICANT size difference in screen size. Go look at a Vibrant vs an HD2/EVO and you’ll see what I mean. when something is only 4″(vibrant), .5″ is a 10.25% screen size increase. That’s like going from a 46″ to a 52″ television. or a 19″ to a 22″ screen. You can DEFINITELY notice a difference.

        That being said………..4.5″ AMOLED screen……I might buy it if nothing else for the media aspect of it lol!

      • Patrick

        in addition….the ONE thing I’m scared of…..is that with this being a 1st gen phone….the OS won’t be “up to par”. Granted…..it’s TECHNICALLY not a 1st gen for the OS….BUT…….Vista TECHNICALLY wasn’t a 1st gen for Windows OS…but look how sucky it was. It wasn’t until Windows 7 that they got it right.

        I’m wondering if WP7 is going to end up in the same boat. Look at the iPhone(granted it was a 1st gen phone operating system period), look at the g1(again, 1st gen phone OS completely), look at WebOS on the pre….it was a pretty good OS, but DEFINITELY a 1st gen makeover from PalmOS. I just don’t want to get it and go from having EVERYTHING in my Android Phone to missing components in my WP7 phone. The G1 nor iPhone even had video recording on their 1st gen devices. the iphone didn’t have mms, the g1 didn’t have a camera app(i know…it did…but really…can u REALLY call the g1 camera app a camera app? lol)

        I LOVED my g1…and I’ve always RESPECTED the iPhone….I just hope Microsoft takes a pointer or two and makes their Windows PHONE 7 as good as Windows 7 lol

      • jdog

        Well it still looks like the leaked T-mo roadmap os right on track. As for the 4 Android phones for November here is what I think HTC Emerald=Mytouch HD, Motorola Jordan=New Cliq XT, Motorola Begonia=New Cliq, and LG=I still have no idea.

        Note: LG did say yesterday they would release a 2ghz phone by the end of the year and Google did say that Android 3.0 was releasing before it got cold maybe this is the real T-mo super phone that we have been waiting for.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        .3 inches is significantly bigger. When I went to demo the Vibrant, I did the screen size test between the HD2 and Vibrant and the HD2 screen makes the Vibrant screen look miniature. While it doesn’t look as small as a 3.7 compared to it, it is more significant than I was expecting it to be. I tested the HD2’s screen against the Vibrant and then the Vibrant against the TP2. The Vibrant’s screen looked the best but the HD2 screen was bigger by a good bit as was the Vibrant’s screen when compared to the TP2 because both the HD2 and the Vibrant are .3 inches larger than the ones compared against it.

        On Topic:
        4.3 is the perfect size screen for me. After coming from a .8 inch Nokia 3220 to a 4.3, anything below it just seems small to me. I was Spoiled by the HD2 screen, mind you I’ve had to have my HD2 replaced 3 times for software and hardware issues and I’m on my 4th HD2. I am not looking forward to any more Windows Phones. Next phone I get will either be Symbian^4, Meego or Android.

        I tried booting Android from the sd card and everything worked fine except the phone calls sounded like robots. A friend told me I’d basically have to change the Radio on the phone to get the voices to sound correct. I like Android on the HD2 but I need to know if there’s a way to change the Radio without basically flashing the rom and keeping Dual Boot so I can alternate between WinMo and Android?

    • El Guapo

      Actually, a 1800mah battery is NOT enough for a phone with those crazy specs (dual core 1.5ghz?) The battery wont even last a few hours.

      • Hecg55

        Actually I think it will because the vibrant has a 1500 mah battery and its got a screen the sucks the energy like crazy! I’m thinking that the super amoled and a bigger regular amoled use about the same?.. And wasn’t the vibrant clocked higher than 1ghz?.. I’m not positive but that is my unprofessional opinion

      • Air One

        Heellllooo HD3. even though the specs are off the charts im sure this phone is still coming with a 4-4.5″ screen. Processor is a bit much but we’ll see. I once read that the dual core actually can save some battery life. One core will stay dormant and actually save the battery depending on what you do. but like i said, it still seems to good to be true. But at this point im tired of my My touch, i need bigger and faster. so i think ill just buy the hd3 and mytouch hd just to have them both… yeah, i guess im spending $$$$$ on these two phones. im sure ill keep both since im a fan of android and of course im a seattle native so i gotta support Our WinMo7 especially with that kind of phone and specs.


        We will have to see how WP7 handles battery life then.

    • JM77

      Sadly but expectedly, engadget reports qualomm stating that dual 1.5ghz devices won’t ship until late next year. The dual 1.2ghz will come starting in late Q1. This is what I’ve been guessing all along because it takes time to get these chips in devices, optimize them, and test them.

  • lisette

    Even though it’s not the phone for me, if the rumored specs are valid, I’m happy for those that have been waiting w/ bated breath WP7! #reallyreadyformyG2

  • Ja’Lyn/Gem

    MY GOODNESS, THIS IS PURE SEXINESS. Oh, is that Windows 7 I see? I THINK SO! I have the HTC HD2 right now, and I almost wish I had waited-out to see some of these future phones T-Mobile is NOW getting (all of a friggin’ sudden).

    WAIT! UHM .. so, this is for sure coming to T-Mobile USA?

  • woww. I guess size does matter, because 4.5 is HUUUUGE!!!!

    • Anthony

      That’s NOT what she said…..

  • Woffle

    4.5″? Time to get a satchel for this phone!

    • Eddie Android

      Indiana Jones wears one.

      • TimmyT

        It’s a purse!

      • Andy G

        Sp does Joy Behar! lol…


      By the way, if you removed the logos on the hd2 and stretched the screen to those places you would have a 4.5″ screen.

  • That’s some amazing specs and I believe WP7 would be a pretty nice OS, just gonna hope for it’s buyers that it isn’t crash central. (My cousin got so tired of it that he actually went back to his dumbphone, sad lol)

  • wow… this is everything i could ever want in a phone except no QWERTY but maybe at 4.5″ a touch screen keyboard will be usable for me… now just gotta wait for reviews on winphone7 as an OS…. if it’s good this could be what i’ve been waiting for…


      Check out youtube.com. Just type in windows phone 7 in the search bar. I find that some of the best things are by pocketnow.com

  • Terry

    Time For bigger Pockets lol!

    • 2fr35h

      Nice double entendre


      Or you could by a belt case, like me!

  • Vibrant Guy

    I like the HD2, but I’m still sold on Android. Sorry WP7, I just can’t see myself leaving my Vibrant for ya. :( Who knows, maybe after I play with it…I could possibly, just maybe…go back to windows. (nah) But hey, to me…4.5 is a little too big for a phone.

    • Denis

      theres an android build for the hd2, they work pretty good i have my hd2 with android, and its sweet. dont u think xda developers will make the same with hd3? :D impossible is nothing :)


        One problem with android on the hd2, besides the battery life. It will get stuck on a screen for up to 25 seconds at a time. It usually doesn’t happen often, but it makes it sub-par to the REAL android. I have an hd2 and like android for my games, but normally use WinMo (custom ROM of course).

  • Evan

    So, what exactly is that at the top of this article, a render?

  • Denis

    okay too much for a phone, i dont know you guys are with me but it is too much, i wish that was the phone! but i just cant believe this until i see the htc event, i hope theres is an hd3 it kick ass i hope there is a front facing camera! but time will tell.

    • Vibrant Guy

      (Denis, my comments are not directed to you. But I addressing the FCC thing.)

      I keep hearing people say they want a FCC, but when will you use it? I can’t use it while driving, I can’t use it at work, I can’t use it in front of the wife, I would only use it with others who can do video calling…but I just can’t find a time to use it. Other than playing around with from time to time. I think some people just want to say they have it. Oh wait, I can take a pic with it. Big deal. IMO, it does not matter if a phone has a FCC, because it won’t get used like people say they would use it. Several people at work have Iphone 4’s, and they don’t even use the FCC.

      Oh well, if it does…or does not, I won’t be getting it. 4.5 again..is just too big for a phone IMO.

      • dr.badnasty

        As much as I agree with you NOW, that’s a short-sighted view. The sooner video calling becomes a standard, the better. Some people live hundreds to thousands of miles from their kids and grandkids. There are few things worse than seeing those kids once a year and not recognizing them. Video calling will help those people feel like part of their own families. Technology exists to solve problems like this, and that’s only one of the practical applications. It may never replace an old-fashioned phone call, but it needs to be there;it’s the next step in the evolution in wireless communication.


        You have a good point, but some of my friends have an iphone4 and like to use the app (i forgot what it’s called) to “bring” someone where they are. Using both cameras, I have seen it have some use. Mainly at birthday parties or important gatherings. Plus like dr.badnasty said, in the future, most will have use for them.

  • mtnman

    Look in the upper right hand corner, that’s a FFC. The upper left is the Proximity and light sensor. Well now for all those that say if it don’t have a FFC it’s a dealbreaker, there ya go.

    • David, Managing Editor

      I don’t think its an FFC, it would be on the body of the phone, not the border?!

    • Vibrant Guy

      FFC is not a big deal…let it go. Most of you won’t even use it after day one.

      • Denis

        yes yes i get you, but the ffc will be nice (this is personal) i could make video calls with my brother and see my niece that will be nice, since theres no tmobile phone with ffc, i know i will not use it like everyday but once in a while i could u know just a personal preference. :)

  • SnakeEyez

    Wow…1.5 ghz dual core really? Maybe This is the supposed project emerald with the dual core haha. Man, those specs are insane in true, quick somebody put Android on it, Stat!

    • mtnman

      Wonder how fast XDA Developers can put Android 2.2 on it?


        To get a stable version? The hd2 came out in march, and decently stable android for it came out in July/August. I’m guessing at LEAST that time frame. Especially because they will be dealing with different kinds of hardware.

    • ren

      Yup! Put Android in that puppy. That will be sweet………………

  • mtnman

    How big can a phone screen get. Well on CNET today I seen that Samsung is coming out with tablet to compete with the iPad. I will run Android 2.2 and will have 7 inch screen. And yes it will make calls and be offered on the cell carriers. So there you have it my friends, the world’s largest phone. And you though a 4.3 inch screen was big. lol

  • coolMANDINGO

    booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! i wish they wouldve never came out with the hd2 now there are going to be more wm devices. i dont like wm because of the lack of openess and them high priced apps that are free on android. FAIL

    • TL

      You dont have to buy it… Stick with your robot phone… As for me, I cant wait.. This phome will be the best ever…( until somebody tops it, lol )

      • coolMANDINGO

        thank you sir i will!! and you pay an extra $5 per month for xbox live and $20 navigation when its standard with the robot. ! i migt be going to verizon because tmobile doesnt get it . my opinion and money!

    • Deke218

      WM is the most open OS there is. NOTHING has been modified more than Windows Mobile. It has 100 times more rom updates than Android and if you really wanted to never spend a dime on apps, you could. Gotta just know where to look.

      • coolMANDINGO

        thanks for that info i didnt know. im an equal oppurtunity hater!! lol but i hate cant hate on good and great info.

    • MrMocoCoco

      Any app you get on Android will have a comparable app on Windows Mobile… For me I have to have a phone that I can pull out of the box and connect to Microsoft Exchange, open a public folder in Outlook then open a Microsoft Word or Excel document. I also need to VPN in to my office LAN and use RDP to my workstation or Servers without having to carry my laptop everywhere I go. I really love the ability to remote in to a server and fix a minor problem without having to run home or the office when I am out with my wife and kids.

      Life is GOOD with Windows Mobile!

  • mtnman

    So now when your GF ask you, “Is that a Galaxy S Pad in you pocket, or are you just happy to see me?” lol

    • KautiousNupe


  • Ansel

    This looks AMAZING but I’m still purely Android. If Windows Market gets better apps to compete with The App Store and Android Market MAYBE it can appeal to me but I still love Android way too much so looks like we’ll just have to wait and see…

    • vibrant guy

      Agreed. Android all day.

      • Patrick

        I’m sure the DEV community will figure out how to get Android on this bad boy too just like they did for the HD2

  • mtnman

    Well does anyone remember when the Galaxy S phone specs released, and we thought about all the good things it had? Then it came to the U.S. market and was striped down.

    Wonder if the specs on this are Europian version, or if it will be spriped down as well?

  • Callawaybomber

    If not, that would be a huge disappointment for a high end device?

    • mtnman

      I’m sure that Tmo will have this as an HSPA+ device. I don’t think that they’ll have any phone relese now (except for the low end phone) that’s not HSPA+.

  • mtnman

    Hey Kickstar13 question? What do you think that is on the upper right? If the Proximity/light sensor is on the left what would that be on the right hand side of it? I can’t think of what it would be?

    • Kickstar13

      That’s most likely the European version, so either way we might not even see one on T-Mobile with an FFC. Hopefully, more details are revealed after HTC’s Press Event next Wednesday.

      • Kickstar13

        Also, I must also add that the image pictured above is just a concept.

  • TangoPapa

    I didn’t buy the HD2 for 2 reasons….. the screen was way too big to be practical and windows OS. So they made it bigger and stuffed an even newer Windows OS into it. Damnit if it were 4.0 and had Android on it I’d be all over this phone. Don’t care about FFC and really like the 1800mah and memory. I can’t even imagine how fast a 1.5 dual core would be, I’d be excited to try out the phone, anybody know what type of processor it is?

    • JTforU

      This is silly, THERE ARE 4.0″ ANDROID EVERY WHERE:) They call them Samsung Galaxy and it is a pretty good phone. Try it on any of bog 4:)

  • somebody


    now i dont have to get the stupid g2 Yessssss!!!!!!!!!!

  • phonephixer

    I’ll be in for this one as soon as the devs have ported Android to it. I have an hd2 running winmo/Android and I wouldn’t trade it for any Android phone on the market. Can’t wait for the release of this.

  • jazzmanmonty

    ok like the initial specs for the g2 aren’t concrete and have been a bit different from initial specs, i’m hoping these will remain as they are being stated. now, coming from a wing with winmo 6 and that being my first smartphone, then taking a chance with android, and now needing to upgrade from g1, i really wanted another android phone. with all the rumors about an android phone with these type of specs to be released, and the reality that its not coming anytime soon in neither the g2 or mthd, i’m contemplating going back to winmo if this phone has the specs it says it does. i’ve been saying before the big thing isn’t OS anymore..its the hardware that is most important that won’t be obsolete in 2 months as we keep seeing. i’m disappointed in, though as advanced as they make the g1s and mthds proccessor sound, the new android phones because they are nothing exciting hardware wise. This is the hardware we all want and wish it was on an android phone. But since we can’t have it, lets ask why we cant just yet.

    MS is trying to be revolutionary right now and compete with apple and android. though the look of their new OS is about as attractive as a mole on a witches ass, they probably demanded the best of best hardware for their initial release of windows mobile 7. willy gates wouldn’t have it any different. so i give them that. they said htc give us a phone with power nobody has seen and will want. the first dual core ever. they got it. now if the g2 had these specs i’d be walking around with a boner til i got my hands on the damn device. but since its not android i’m kinda pissed cuz tmo coulda said “htc we need a revolutionary phone for g2. give us the best of the best.” but something in the end excites me alot! what makes me excited after all the little disappointments with android phones not getting the hardware i want, and the phone that comes with all the awesome hardware running windows 7 is xda-developers. if they have android running on the hd2, i’m sure they’ll have it running on this thing too!!!!

    so the conclusion of all my drunken blabbing is this: screw the g2 and mthd for now. i want this! i want this, and then install android on it! because once that happens, itll be the most amazing phone any of us will see in the next 6 months! release this phone now so i can get it, find a way to get android on it, and finally replace my g1! k i gotta pee..sorry too many vodka cokes tonite. but i think you guys get the point and are now hopefully as excited to get this device as me (if we can get android running on it)

  • B

    haha all I can do is laugh at those specs.


    I always keep two phones one windows and one Android. this will be the icing on the cake for me, I’ll have the hdx and mthd at my disposal. once the next new phone comes out 2011 there will be someone on Craigslist who will want the second to newest handset therefore keeping me an early adopter.

  • big Jake


  • going_home

    The specs make one drool.
    Too bad it doesnt have Gingerbread.
    I dont do Windows phones any more.


  • AgDon

    Beautiful phone with great spec’s, I’m in the camp I wish this was android, but happy for wm people. I may have to get one.

  • MakrV10

    4.5 inch screen and 1800 mAh battery. Forget pockets and purses, this will need one of those roll around computer/suitcases. This is almost enough to make me wait some more before upgrading but it is Vibrant BOGO day, isn’t it?

    • Kickstar13

      Yup, starting today you can get the Vibrant BOGO.

    • MrMocoCoco

      I use an HD2 now! Sleek and smooth, fits perfectly in any pocket. Best phone I’ve ever even touched! The specs of this HD3 rumor show a larger screen but smaller phone so that would be a big win…

    • Deke218

      Not sure why people think the HD2 is a big phone. Mine fits in the same case I had my TP2 in. I can never go back to a smaller screen.

      • MrMocoCoco

        me too I did the same… I was a little wary of the on-screen keyboard at first but it is great!

  • NiiDiddy

    Dayyyyuuum!!! 1800 mAh??? 4.5 inch screen? 1.5 Ghz processor?? Dayyyyuuuum!!! When these specs make it out of the rumor mill into reality, I’m getting this phone! Not a big fan of Windows mobile phone, but I PREFER them for business…so here I come T-Mobile Business, if this thing is in fact the monster it might shape up to be.

  • 2fr35h

    Sounds like the vibrant is perfect for you

  • mikeeeee


  • Barry

    Wow can’t wait to see it. Hope they do it right this time and get the android version also if there’s one released.

  • ob18

    i was hoping this was andriod not wp7.

    • coolMANDINGO

      same here! tmobile just doesnt get it . frankly i quit. im taking my money elsewhere!

  • efjay

    People are going to be disappointed when this event turns out to be nothing to do with WP7. Plus this device has been rumoured for months and is based on a fictional concept device dreamed up by an Xda user, but keep dreaming.

    And as for the usual “i wish it had android” comments, keep dreaming as well. No matter how good or dominant android MAY become you will NEVER be the only operating system in existence and there will always be hot devices that will not be running android. Chew on that, fanbots!! :)

    • Scott

      The problem is not devices running other operating systems. A little competition is a good thing.

      The problem is T-Mo putting Anroid on the mediocre Vibrant and G2 (yes, they’re mediocre compared to the equivalents on other carriers), then finally releasing their groundbreaking competitive handset with only win phone. Apparently T-Mobile thinks Anroid is only meant for Sims-playing teenagers. :(

      • coolMANDINGO

        tmobile is sooooooo stupid. does anyone still play sims? they need to do market research with people on this site and engadget to see what people want . tmobile were tired of the second tier devices. step it up. the vibrant is cool. i dont want it even with a free upgrade. step up tmobile. ou guys need a cheat sheet to see why sprint is back up and going and tmobile stauling and is always in rumors for merging. why is that?

      • alex

        Lol I’m 15, and love the sims but android’s version sucks balls compared to apple’s version

  • chotpy


    Spell check, my dear author.

    Very awesome if T-mo gets it. They need as many high-end phones as they can get.

    • Barry


  • I loved the HD2 and the rumored specs on the HD3 sounds very good. But aesthetics is important to me also and I would never buy a phone as ugly as the one pictured above.

    The Hd2 was a big hit when I worked for TMO. You couldnt keep them in stock. Then it died off quick.

  • karlc

    the phone looks really cool. i just dont know about the look of the home screen. it make the phone appear off-balance. looks wierd to me. i wonder if its changable? im just used to big wallpaper back ground with widgets and such…..blue squares..of centered…. i’m struggling with it!!
    its like those new dodge chargers..in purple! cool car but the color……whoa

    • MrMocoCoco

      of course it’s Windows mobile… you could make it look like a iPhone if you really wanted to.

  • weirdguyontv

    I dunno. The UI looks like it was designed by mentally challenged monkeys in an insolated lab somewhere. It looks like something a child would use…..reluctantly. But who knows, maybe wp7 will prove everyone wrong. Much like Windows 7. Im not big on the Windows Mobile OS. not one bit.

  • weirdguyontv

    hey efjay. By bashing android fanboys, u are proving u are also a fanboy. of a lesser, much more inferior OS but u are a fanboy nonetheless. Face facts flamer, android dominates

    • efjay

      Was that really bashing? I was merely stating what should be common sense, android wont be the only smartphone OS, no matter how good or dominant it may become. android dominates NOW, how about a few years time? And its only your opinion that WP7 is an inferior OS, what exactly makes android so superior?

  • vHatch

    wth, it’s obvious from the video that the shubert does not have a 4.5 inch screen, so is not the HD3. You are also reporting the stats from the obviously made up dream-phone page.

  • btookz

    i thought that the mozart and hd7 were two different phones.

  • coolMANDINGO

    damn tmobile. im taking my money elsewhere.ive went from a samsung camera phone in 2003 to the sony-erriccson in 2005 to the mda to the g1 and now….. it seems like i have to buy another phone from an outside source because tmobile isnt smart enough to get and SELL a TMOBILE only high end smart phone with ANDROID with a snapdragon.The nexus one doesnt count because it wasnt SOLD by tmobile. them $50 apps on wm are not worth it.i bought the hd2 and took it back the next day simply because it froze and the google maps ap wasnt the same. they wanted people to spend i think $10 a month for navi on top of the monthly data plan. i know i can find apps for free but got damn !!! im getting rid of my x360 for the same reason. im dont feel like paying $10 a month or $25 or $60 a month for xboxlive. if yall ddnt know xbox prices will go up. id rather get a ps3 and pay nothing. ps3=android and xbox360 obviously with wm. i gotta go. enjoy the device but i will gracefully bow out. wm is not for me. im not hating im just not going for the $30 apps. the google maps isnt isnt even turn by turn! smh

  • alex

    I have a ps3 :D

  • Carlos

    isn’t this just a fake mock up dreamed up?

  • Carlos

    I completely agree with you! 100% everything you said

  • Carlos

    bye, don’t talk it, be about it

  • JM77

    Dual vaporware unfortunately. We haven’t had a 1.5ghz phone yet. Things move progressively. Why would companies skip a generation of chips? 2nd gen chips in phones are just now dropping (G2).

    I buy the specs minus the dual core 1.5.
    Still, single core 1.5ghz with 1gb ram should FLY! … but enough with every phone rumored to be dual core.

  • DHer

    qualcomm just announced the 1.5 dual cores wont be out until late 2011
    1.2hgz will be out Q1 2001.
    go check engadget.com
    this phone wont have anything better than the normal 1ghz snapdragon

  • Cupcake

    Those are great specs but don’t think I will leave Android. Never really cared for WinMo phones. Too bad they didn’t give that screen size to the new G2!

    • CiscoKid

      I too use to HATE!! winMo phones (hermes,tilt) and Loved my G1 but after using the HTC HD2 and WinMo 6.5 it’s gotten ALOT better since previous versions.
      Apps aren’t there yet unless you install the cabs your self.

      • Tito!

        Get your head outta the gutter . Jeeeze
        Winmo isn’t Windows Phone.
        This is a new generation.
        & nobody’ asking you to leave Android.
        Even if you considered,
        Nobody did say you could say you couldn’t go back.
        Seriously, I hate ignorant comment like these.

        Android = Consumerism .
        & If MyTouchHD is the only “high-end” phone we’ll be getting from T-Mobile this year, I’d rather take up on the chance rather then sit in envy at other carriers.
        I’ll stick to my Cliq(;
        Until Sidekick releases next year .
        & if any dual-core phones relase this year (Magenta branding) say, motorola flavoring. I’ll consider(: between WP7 & that phone.
        (Most likely I’ll buy both)
        Not so sure bout LG?

        What I’m saying tho, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it .
        Winmo = Windows Phone? No.
        New Generation.
        Get it Straight(;

      • Tree Frogs

        @Tito!– You’re waiting for a sidekick? You just lost all credibility that you may have had.

      • §ü|»è®mªn

        @Tito, ummm, I was acutally going along with that you were saying till the SK comment…

        Have you read the news?

      • Ryan

        People, there were rumors of a new android-powered Tmobile phone with the “Sidekick” name. I think that’s what Tito was referring to.

      • JBC

        MyTouchHD isnt the only “high-end” phone this year.

        Check out the Galaxy S before making these comments.

        Have fun with your sidekick.

      • Beanz0nToast

        @Tito, you’re blowing Windows Phone 7 up waaaaaay too big! It’s still Windows and it will still flop. May be better (maybe even MUCH BETTER) but it will still be windows and it will not live up to your expectations. Any new version of any software always gets this huge hype of how much of a game changer it will be and then…it’s not that much different than before.

      • Mike Litoris

        @Beanz0nToast You’re quickly forgetting that the winmo OS you’re talking about that will flop held the monopoly for near a decade in the smartphone world. They got a bit lazy after a while, that we know for sure but I don’t think it’s fair to say “it’s winmo so it will fail”. I think we need to be very patient and wait to see what MS brings us. I think Microsoft knows more than anyone else that due to the numerous people that have become fanboys of the Apple iOS and Android, they can’t just release anything Mediocre or else they’ll be finished in the mobile phone OS market. This alone, I think will encourage them to bring something that will wow us all.

    • davwilese

      Well I figured out how to load android onto myHD3.it is 100 times better. Maybe it will be possible to load it on the Hd3.

  • JM77

    Engadget is backing my suspicions. No dual core devices this year, at least not from Qualcomm HTC combo. Hope this keeps expectations from getting out of hand. I hate to see everyone let down when a phone releases just due to wild rumors.


    • FunkmasterC

      haha – we were both typing this at the same time.. Two different sources..

    • jdog

      LG already said they were going to release some 2hgz Tegra 2 phones in the 4th quarter and there is still a LG Android phone coming to T-mobile so don’t give up hope. Also the road map hasn’t been wrong yet and we will find out about the G2 being released tomorrow.


      • JM77

        The press release says 1ghz dual core NOT 2ghz.
        I have read the same articles. No one has a 2 ghz chip in production.
        LG’s vice pres of marketing claims they’ll have a tegra2 chipset in a phone by the end of the year. We’ll wait and see. Its possible yet unlikely.
        CEOs and Vice presidents always want to hype up their company. They rarely take into consideration the time it takes to get these products finished and into consumers’ hands.

  • FunkmasterC

    No 1.5Ghz until end of 2011. You can erase that thought from your mind… These specs are bogus.


    I wonder how these would perform in a laptop – you would get sick battery life!

    • JM77

      Nice! People (myself included) have unreasonable expectations due to rumors. Then everyone feels let down when specs come out even though it may be a great piece of hardware. Ex – G2 and Mytouch HD. They will both be top phones but many will be disappointed.

      • FunkmasterC

        They will be nice as the Vibrant was. Some people will want to argue, trashing T-Mobile regardless of what they release. I think T-Mobile has done a fine job of taking a conservative, yet aggressive approach to updating their product line. I appreciate this attempt to keeping costs under control – they let Verizon spend crazy amounts of money promoting Android that they introduced.

        They could do a better job at releasing their phones and controlling the ‘leaks’. If they were smart, they could time all of this to create a buzz. After a while though – people like myself just want to say – release the phone already! I will buy a G2, but my excitement is waning due to poor marketing. As Apple has proven, it is all how you present, promote and position and deliver your product.

        I am not really interested in a WM phone again, but I know MS has spent a ton of money and wish them the best with their new OS. No amount of advertising can save them now, it will have to be word of mouth. Best of luck MS!

        T-mo – I am still waiting for my email from you to pre-order the G2! I need a new toy.

  • joel

    You’ve got to be kidding. Since when has it been okay to talk out your ass about “reported” stats and then just say “Keep in mind this is just a rumor” at the end? You disappoint me, tmonews. Now when our Windows Phone 7 comes out and doesn’t resemble these stats in any way, everyone’s going to say “OMG wut happned to our 1.5jigahurts sexy gudness! T-Mobul FAIL! durrrrrrrrp”

    I thought you guys had some standards on what you reported :(

    • thaghost


    • FunkmasterC


    • JM77

      I would not be too hard on them. They do a lot of good reporting. Most rumors prove false in the end but thats part of the risk. Besides EVERYONE has been playing the dual core guessing game all year long.

    • Kickstar13

      Was I telling a joke? No I’m not kidding. Blogs are meant to provide on information that is REPORTED (yes that word) by other bloggers and most of which can’t ever be confirmed 100% and we maintain that integrity by letting our viewers know what info is confirmed and what is rumored. A bit of advice useful for life (and here), you shouldn’t count your eggs before they hatch. The mobile phone industry builds on hype in the media, but as with any new bit of technology and leaked device information, initial specs that are rumored are reported BEFORE the official info is released. TmoNews is not here catering to your fantasies, we’re reporting on info that is circulated. Sorry to burst your bubble, this is a blog not porn.

      • vHatch

        Sorry but this article is very fail reporting. Not only did you not deliver an actual release date as the title promises (other than the already rumored Nov 17) but you sported obviously fake specs as fact.

        Here is the source of those specs by the way : http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html

        It was a dream-phone mockup design buy some random guy. You are even using the picture from it, lmao. I am started to regret browsing tmonews more and more every time.

        • David, Managing Editor

          Comments like “I am started to regret…” are just annoying and frustrating. You don’t like it, don’t browse but comments like that are totally unnecessary and don’t take into account the number of times you love coming here. You guys succeed brilliantly at pointing out faults but fail to ever point out the successes.

        • joel

          Just because I don’t like reading the obviously false story you guys have posted here doesn’t mean I don’t like reading tmonews. I just misunderstood what your blog is- I’ve always thought of it as kind of a place where I can come to read either “official” T-Mobile info before it’s “official,” or substantial rumors that have a pretty good chance of being true.

          I enjoy coming here, David. I really like your blog, even if it’s not what I thought it is. But you can’t expect everyone to like everything you post all the time. Might I suggest that if you run a blog, you should be a little more thick-skinned? I really mean no offense, but if you let negative comments upset you, then the more popular your blog becomes the more upset you’ll be as more people come here to comment.

          Just to reiterate, I love your blog and USUALLY love the reporting you do. Thanks for the cool place to discuss T-Mobile.

        • I have a few blogs myself. My rule of thumb is, don’t read the comment. It’s not worth it

        • just some dude

          Hilton your a Smart man, life is too short.

        • I for one have gone from die hard WinMo with the T-mo MDA, to die hard Android since the G1. That said, I was reading the specs off the site at work today with all the Android owners and I wanted that phone that moment. It was definitely gadget porn to me. That said, because it’s new I’ll play with it in the stores and wait to see how many apps it gets. If it does better than palm and RIM did by say Feb, I’m all in with this phone and I’ll sell my Vibrant. That said, if the phone doesn’t meet the stats here, I’ll be let down a little, but I still have the best phone (next to the Nexus) that T-mo has and I’ll continue to wait til T-mo gets something better which I’ll buy. Just like the G2 and Mytouch HD, I won’t bash them like everyone else because we were expecting/hoping for more. I’ll just wait for the phone to come out that does meet my standards.

          Oh and thanks Tmonews for the info. Even when it’s not right, it’s better than not having this blog and say buying a Mytouch right before the Mytouch HD comes out, or buying a Mytouch3gs before the Vibrant comes out.

        • VirtualAss

          We followed a parallel path man… what I appreciate about what you’re saying is that you actually owned and used WinMo phones. I had an MDA and Shadow before going to the G1, then back to the HD2.

          People who have really and truly used these phones know whats up… the criticisms are typically ignorant, or biased fanboy hate, or sheep repeating somethign they read somewhere else.

          People who have tried other phones and have legit hate for them… so be it. But look at me: I grew to hate my G1. THE G1, NOT ANDROID! I still love and appreciate Android, but that hardware licked dirty balls. I’m not going to discount any future Android phones based on my G1 experience, that’s just outright stupid.

          But let’s face it… if MS can truly bring an Xbox Live experience to the WP7, then they got it. Will they ‘overthrow’ the iphone and Android? Heck no, and no one’s trying to say that. But give me that Xbox and Windows Live interconnectivity, and thats a winner for me.

          Forget MS for a minute… look at Sony Ericsson and their plans to do a PSP Android phone… PURE GENIUS. Sony could be a REAL player in the smartphone game if they go this route. They should have thought of it maybe a year or 2 ago, but its NEVER too little too late.

          Just saying… all the negativity from fanboys is so ignorant and hypocritical.

      • justaphoneuser

        1.5ghz duel core and 1gb ram? Seriously, phones of these specs are 2 years away. Would you quote me if I REPORTED that the phone had 1 terabyte of solid state storage in raid 5 configuration? We probably will see something like that in 5 years, but lets not get ahead of ourselves…

        Maybe 1.5ghz single core? 1gb ram is possible, but not affordable for manufacturers. In any case the ram is easier to swallow.

    • David, Managing Editor

      Joel, I have to say your comment disappoints me as much as our supposed reporting does to you. For someone to make such “extreme” statements you should have more knowledge on how the industry works and how reporting takes place. A lot of what is done in this biz is based on reporting facts found from the other sources. You should know that. You should have recognized that from the get go.

      • joel

        Hey, don’t make me out to be some kind of bad guy/ignorant of “how the industry works” just because I criticized an obviously poorly researched article. “Facts found from other sources?” What sources, pray tell? The article you linked to made no mention of the HD3 being released on T-Mobile USA(or even T-Mobile ANYWHERE), and I can’t find a shred of evidence to even link the HD3 to the other T-Mobile US HTC device being released in November(by other, I mean the second HTC device seen on the leaked T-Mobile roadmap- the one that’s not the Emerald). If you’re going to report obviously false rumored specs for a phone, then fine. But linking those specs to the HTC device we’re getting in November is a pretty big leap, and looks to me to be an editorial choice on YOUR part, not something from “other sources.”

        Sorry if your feelings were hurt by my criticisms. But hey, a blogging industry bigwig like you surely knows how these things work, right? You post something obviously false, you get called on it, regardless of the source.

        Oh, and Kickstar, your whole remark about my thinking your blog is porn and that I shouldn’t “count my eggs before they hatch …” I’m sorry, but what do you even mean by that? I call you out on a poorly sourced story, and you accuse me of living in a fantasy world? Are you saying that just because a story is obviously false is no reason for you not to post it?

        There’s a difference between substantial rumors and over-the-top nonsense. I seriously thought you guys knew the difference, and it was one of the reasons I respected this blog. I came here because I thought you guys tried to provide reliable info as opposed to unsubstantiated hearsay. Judging from your responses here, I was obviously wrong. Sorry I misunderstood what tmonews.com is. I’ll still come here, but I feel sorry for the people that come here expecting what I did.

        p.s. I’ve said my peace, I don’t wanna start a flame war. You won’t see me criticizing your “industry” again. Agree to disagree, and all that.

  • Vibrant Addict

    Those specs are quite interesting. If Windows can pump the hardware to the next level with their OS, they’ll have a powerful market. Gotta wait and see though how it clocks once we have the actual phone, vs my Vibrant once it gets 2.2.

  • tande04

    The HD3 specs are rumors and rumors only.

    They started way back when WP7 was first announced. Problem is they don’t even meet the specs for the platform.

  • Dilla

    no front cam?

    • i agree with u this phone better have a front facing camera. most likely only the european version will have a front facing camera , if t-mobile ever does get this phone most likely they will cripple it and take out the front facing camera ..

  • SKA

    I am sorry but I have been burnt by WM phones so many times, I am scarred and scared of WM phones.

    Thank You


    Da Bears

    Cubs….next year

    • Manny

      Oh, sorry about that. May I recommend you try Windows Phone 7, a whole different experience from Windows Mobile?

      • SKA

        I say I am scarred and scared but I will try it out. I like to try out phones no matter what. I have owned 5 WM phones and for some reason I go back to them even though I have numerous problems with them. So I will try it even though I am a lil hesitant.

      • justaphoneuser

        This is not windows mobile we are talking about, it is a whole new beast, WP7. I have had first hand experience with a device running a version of this OS, and let me tell you it is quite an upgraded experience. Very consistent throughout, fast sleek and fun to use. It’s interface is a little more like the Zune HD then the old Windows Mobile, and as a developer I can tell you it is actually fun writing apps for this OS. Writing apps for Android and Iphone is just a chore…

  • David

    Sounds like bogus specs to me. And 4.5″ screen is a total fail. Remember that the point of a phone is its ability to fit in a pocket!

    P.S. Doubt I’ll go the WM7 route. I don’t mind webOS or Android 2.2, iOS hesitantly, but WM7 is too little too late.

  • ke4yqd

    And anyone who says that WM is not a better os than android or webOS is a fool that has never set up a WM device. I walked into the Verizon store the other day and they sales clerk mentioned not liking my phone, because it’s screen had a lack of responsiveness. So I showed her my phone and where the driver that controls the responsiveness. Then I showed her the ability to watch flash media off of a web site instead of out of an App (which is important when multitasking as it reduces the amount of ram necessary).

    That being said, I think the biggest problem with the previous WM devices was that the manufacturing companies tried to squeeze their own stuff on top of WM. For example, the WM6.5 os is quite a smooth operating system, if you can get past all the HTC Imagio’s embedded copycat pages. Like the settings page for WM6.5 is very intuitive, it is hard to get to, as HTC has hijacked it’s location, and replaced it with their own dulled down menu.

    I think the best option is to only buy the nice devices, not the cheap ones that were mentioned above. Price doesn’t = Quality. You really have to play with the phones before buying them. Do the functions you want to do. And for those who have a WM device and don’t like it, do some research. There is probably a fix for all your problems out there that will make you love your phone!

    • +10
      People hate without actually trying something. What’s the word…petty

      • VirtualAss

        What kills me are the people who hate based on other comments they read.

        If 10 people post the criticism ‘Too Little Too Late’, at least 8 of them never thought that until they read it. Sheep.

  • ke4yqd

    Oh yeah, I will be buying the first WP device that rolls out of verizion…

  • Mike

    I’ve been waiting for this phone! Windows Mobile kicks butt! If you know what you’re doing with a WM phone then there’s nothing more powerful. This is going to be one solid device and the specs are off the chart!

    • tcky

      Agree…, if these are the real specs i’d definitly. pass on the G2

  • just some dude

    Dead OS, no multitasking, no flash, crappy UI. It will go away like the KIN in about a year or less.

  • just some dude

    It’s called survival of the fittest Dave. MS cant get a handle on the mobile market and it shows. One of my jobs is to push them away from the mobile market and by that have them make a better windows. Its pretty easy to fault them they kind of suck at it.

    Android rules.

  • derrickps3

    omg i been waiting for this phone, it looks sexy as hell. i think i’m in love

  • Technogen

    Even if this has the 1.5 ghz duel it wont be out until end of next year because the chips arent coming out.


  • Tmoled

    misleading headline, just another rumor. Please don’t get too upset david,i know tmonews writers can’t handle criticism and have to attack posters at least once per blog, very professional!

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Hmmm… no time to read the article and comments. But isn’t this a phone from some concept phone guy in France? Not sure, but it looks like his work. He did concepts for the iPhone and the HD2.

    Was off on both, but still cool.

    In any event, I have not heard of such specs and have to leave. So I’ll leave it to the experts to say what is what. If it’s real … cool. If it’s a compendium of concepts and dreams, cool too. We all have em, eh?

    No time to spell check or grammar either. Forgive me in advance.

  • San Diegan

    How does one leave a comment about the web site or content? The CONTACT US is a useless link.

    I do like the site, that is why I check it out frequently.

    Mainly, I want to tell you that for my T Mobile Samsung Memoir, the pages scale down to fit my phone but they are very long and take lots of time to load.

    Yes, I know that you work hard and I don’t pay but I thought that I would pass this along.

    Thanks for the site and all the news. I like T Mobile.

    • Andrew

      The Samsung Memoir is a feature rich featurephone, so it won’t give the same internet experience as smartphone. I would, however, suggest visiting the samsung memoir and behold sections in our forums ( http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?board=14.0). You can find ways to install Opera mini, which will give you a better and quicker internet experience on your memoir. Good luck!

    • Andrew

      PS. site comments and suggestions can be found in the forums as well

  • Jose Medina

    I want one I been waiting for something to move me and i think this is it

  • Albert Wang

    I love the HD2 since it can dual boot WM6.5 and Android. I wonder whether Windows Phone 7 will allow .cab installation as well as dual boot of OS. For me, those would be important.

    Interface looks good otherwise.

  • maxvolfan

    Ill just wait for the Mytouch HD. In the mean time ill enjoy my HD2 with Froyo 2.2 . Love it

  • Pat

    Finally, a screen with a small border…almost the entire device face is screen. This design change was inevitable. At 640 x 480 my Eten X800 with 2.8″ diagonal screen the resolution was lost on someone with less than 20-20 vision. At this resolution the screen had to get bigger without making the device massive. It looks like they’ve accomplished that much.

    I’m just hoping that they listened regarding the ergonomics. I’ve always longed for voice control that would let me specify the name of the contact to navigate to using GPS and mapping. This had not been perfected…at least using windows mobile 6, my Eten and Tom-Tom nagravator.

    I’ve always detested the stylus. There should be no need for one.

  • chebus

    i have an hd2 and if these specs are right im definatly getting the hd3 but hopefully the battery life wont suck and it better hav a front facing camera.

  • Sgt. cell

    Android is the future and present, Windows mobile has lost. I love my HD2, wish it was running Android out of the box.

  • tell you what, I would rather be with Tmobile than ATT or Verizon. their prices as a rip off” and they still have some of the same phones and the same apps, I totally agree with win apps they are way over priced and am not sure why” can you imagine a million people paying just One dollar” that is lots of monye, now imagine $30. then again Apple keeps ripping people off with they average Iphone” and you do not hear people sayng anything so go figure
    anyway hope that T-mobile gets this bad boy it should be an excellent addition to theyr arsenal same as the samsung vibrant”
    top of the line phones”

  • this phone looks good and for all you android’ers there is always a way to get android on a windows phone like right now i have a fully function android 2.2 froyo rom running on my hd2 sweet with the dual boot no crashing no freezing and does more than the samsung vibrant as far as live wallpapers, app and just general functionality so im sure it can happen on this device as well i look forward to the release

  • Low IQ

    Android people don’t like Windows Mobile, iPhone people don’t like Android and Windows Mobile, Windows Mobile people could not care less because if I want Android on my HTC HD2 I already have it!, and there are a few people who managed to put OS4 on and HD2 also! but I have never seen the reverse done on an Android or iPhone?

    It reminds me of Ford versus Chevy versus Dodge versus….

  • damian

    wow, stop crying over slow vibrant, my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2 gets a quadrant scoreof 1850+

  • Echuta

    If I handed you two phones with a 1ghz chip and a 1.5ghz chip you wouldn’t know the difference. Android is what Winmo was…fractured and too many differnet versions that no one controlled. And now there are some fun Android viruses hitting the phones. And Apple locked themselves into a 5 year deal with ATT that is now causing them to panic because Android is on every carrier and eating their pretty screens/app market lunch. No matter the chip sppeed or front facing camera or multitasking ability of the phone, Windows Phone 7 is going to be a strong competitor for Android and iPhone. Xbox? Only on Microsoft. Office? Only on Microsoft. Zune? Only on Microsoft. Cloud based computing for your phone? Only on Microsoft. Apple changed the cellphone world and it took Microsoft a while but they are finally seeing the light and spending the money. I’m excited to have an adult business phone, from multiple carriers and in multiple forms yet tightly controlled in terms of content and specs that can also deliver games, music and apps via one of the most beautiful interfaces I have seen yet.
    I’ll be in the stores on release day trying them out.

  • this phone sounds impressive to me , there,s a choice for consumers , not everyone has to have android or apple, i started with iphone 3g and after researching i wanted more, i knew nothing about smartphones when i started, for me it was the nexus one, beautifull phone and the snapdragon was certainly a plus, but i didnt want to order it on line and take chance , and couldnt afford unlocked , anyway i went through about 5 defferent phones, droid original , droid eris, mytouch, behold 2, i traded up to the 3gs before i left at and t, i went back when iphone 4 came out but there was ten day wait , so i went back with 3gs, the at and to got greedy with no unlimited plan for data, pissed me off cause by that time id gotten the iphone 4, i took it back , bored with it any way, i do miss it, but i like youtube and like to surf , and they charged me 4 extra charcges for data within 3 weeks, 40 dollars extra , and would have been 50 , if i hadnt took the phone back, anyway , i liked the droid original as well as anything, just didnt like and dont like keyboard, the mytouch conked out on me and i went through 4 replacements, then i said to heck with it, the behold 2 wouldnt come on when i needed it sometimes, the eris was good , just small, i like big screen no. 1, i really liked the looks and feel of htd hd2, just a beautifull phone, i might have stuck with it even with the winmo, but tmobile wouldnt let me work out deal with them and return mytouch, anyway, i got evo 4 g , which is like nexus one,s big brother, liking it so far, i cant believe a t and t and now verizon is going with that data charge, theyr going to lose customers , im through with them , i dont care if the phone drives me to work and back , the heck with them, il go to a pay as you go cheap phone if i have to , dont care if its with mickey mouse, thanks for letting me spill guts, its getting to be a circus, but still interesting to see what they come out with next , right now im fine with evo, thanks

  • Jae

    I feel it may be better as with each device the specs improve but the crashing/freezing remains can we fix that please and it would be a overall great device!!!

  • Jay

    Your blog is still giving me security errors – adding your RSS into my google reader makes a red scull and cross bones appear before https

  • Wilma Flintstone

    if This has a FFC, I may have to Buckle Down and get it. I REALLY don’t want to because after all the problems I’ve had with WinMo, I don’t want to try another Windows phone software and I’m not liking the Windows Phone 7 look but the specs are great if correct, and I know Xda will slap Android on it soon enough.

    I’m not a major Android fan, in fact I like Symbian/Maemo/Meego as my main OS but from my experience, Android is much more stable than WinMo and is more User Friendly. It seems like Tmo are steering clear of the 4.3 inch Super Androids though and are leaning toward 4.3+ Super WinMo which is fine if you like WinMo.

    So it seems like Nivember is still on for me. Who knows, maybe after I demo WP7, I may actually like it. We shall see.

  • thereugo

    I heard that this Phone wont have EA games on it. I have never tried a Windows phone, so I can’t say if it’s good or bad. One thing I do know if it’s anything like that windows7 for the PC, I’m not touching it.

  • Deke218

    I can’t wait to get this sucker and put WinMobile 6.5.2 on it!

  • Andyinc91

    Don’t speak ill of Sidekicks. I still love mine :)

  • san


    You are being way too stupid to have the opinion LOL. Thats what people said about Win 7! Then why are they selling so many win 7s?

    Like or dislike MS I don’t care but your statement is just plain stupid. You msut be only 10 lol.

  • David

    I was pretty excited about getting one, but since they are taking so long to release it and or release the specs of the phones I think I will go with a Galaxy S. If its such a secret then I guess they dont want my business.

  • I say yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh top of the line…….. about time Tmobile gets these bad boys in their arsenal… can wait for this phone to come out, I also use to have a bad experience with window but when I bought the HD2 it change my mind about it, and now that this new OS comes out specially with my boys at HTC ….. mannnn I can wait for the release date

  • Christovercame

    Jesus Christ is Lord! T Mobile 4g is garbage so far, maybe the HD.3 will make t mobile look reputable again