T-Mobile G2 ROM, What IS Actually Inside Edition

You have probably noticed that the latest news in the G2 saga is this whole leaked ROM deal.  Well, some time has passed and some secrets are being divulged by people that know their way around ROMs (namely, not me).  Well, you smart people have certainly found some interesting tidbits hidden inside which definitely make the G2 stand out.  First, the pixel density is 240 PPI, which shapes up to a screen resolution of 800×480 in a 3.7 in screen (think Nexus One).  Second, though we knew this, is that this phone will support HSPA+ (14.4mbps/5.72mbps max). Some other interesting tidbits include 720p video recording and decoding at 30FPS, 5.1 surround sound support, integrated GPS (it is Android after all), and Integrated 2D/3D GPU’s with OpenGL ES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 API support (sounds fancy).  On top of that, it looks like we are dealing with Stock Android 2.2 (yummy) with some special Sense Apps/Widgets, which sounds a lot better than Sense UI over Android (seriously, custom widgets are the way to go people).  Oh, and I guess you probably want to know something about the processor.  Well, it is a Qualcomm MSM 7230 (Scorpion) with supported speeds of 800MHz and 1GHz (let’s lean towards 800MHz for this particular phone).  Don’t cry though, because this is one snappy chip that can compete with the 1GHz Snapdragon processors around today (MHz isn’t everything people).  You can see this chip in action down below.  That’s about all that has been gleamed so far, but don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments!

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  • Exec4Future

    “if it has a Sprint logo, it is automatically a piece of sh*t. ” – Confucius

    • mailman13877

      EXEC4

      lol your funny..Even phone dog posted a video of the Evo vs Droid X vs Iphone vs Vibrator an he said they where all good phones but the #1 phone for power users is still the Evo..Actually he seemed to barely have much to say in the hyping of the Vibrator other than the obvious about the graphics (he still literally said the iphone has better graphics and retina display than the vibrant so thats not even #1)..think he put it as “best value” for price out of pitty..Seemed to me from his video he preferred the iphone then Evo then Droid X and last Vibrant..smh and phone dog is a good dog fighter for phones aint he?Oh and he still says the vibrator is cheap plasticy and he like the exterior of the AT&T version..hahaha

      • mailman13877

        oh and if the service is so much better than Sprint then why are they still losing customers?Either their lack of competitive phones or service but either way TMO is in 4th place.You can say TMO phones suck as a reason or the service does.I say it’s both their network service and phones that’s keeping em in 4th place.

      • davidohio

        Mailbox are you with sprint yet? What are you doing on this site AGAIN? You know, just because someone says it does not mean it is true. You are in love with sprint, we get it..so why are you here? Go to a sprint blog and. Talk to what customers they have left about how much you love sprint and the evo! Loser.

      • booyaka

        sprint only has 15 million more subscribers than t-mobile . to put that in to perspective verizon has 92 million and sprint has 48 million , tmobile has 33 million … you might say “sprint still has more than t-mobile” … but the number of subscribers sprint has includes Nextel, Boost Mobile , Virgin Mobile , Assurance Wireless and Common Cents Mobile … sprint only beats tmobile because they keep buying out smaller cell phone companies that already HAS subscribers , not because they’re better than t-mobile . YOU FAIL

      • pimpstrong

        Nice, booyaka.

      • chris

        So suck his pp why don’t you. He’s an apple fan boy. What do you want him to say, android phones are better? Because he won’t. He sucks apple pp.

      • j

        mailman, your an idiot if you think the iphone has better graphics then the vibrant. i have compared to an iphone and the iphone user wanted my vibrant!

    • My2Cents

      Please remind me what the G2 has to do with Sprint???

  • bubbles

    The g2 is looking like a nice device. The processor is fast. Can’t wait to try out the g2. I am happy with my vibrant. I just glad they finally made ag2, plus it runs stock android, sweet.

  • tmoforsho

    Sprint CDMA sucks balls. The EVO screen looks like the Moto Cliq XT lmao are u serious u Sprint fanboy? Keep your sorry CDMA battery life and u can’t even make a call and surf the web or text all at the same time u fool. What’s the point of having a multitasking software like Android (which TMOBILE launched suckaaa!) When your company’s CDMA technology can’t even do it!!! Lol how fast is your “4G” 3-6 mbps???? HSPA+ is up tp 21mbps on GSM!!!!!

    • http://tmonews ginadagelatina

      @ tmoforsho hun i guess u dont have an evo huh? over here i can make calls and surf the web at the same freaking time on 4G on my evo i bet u didnt know that becuz u dnt have one also i get 9-12 mbps yes it may not be as fast aS t-mobiles hspa+ but at least i get signal inside many buildings yes my boyfriend has t-mobile he has the vibrant and yes it WORKS awesome outside but t-mobile signal doesnt penetrate buildings very well inside places like walmart,kmart, the hospital, the dentist, o also the subway station underground he doesnt have service so guess what he has to borrow my evo to make calls because sprint does get signal in all those places i mentioned above … and no i do not live in the middle of nowere i live right in the city … also those 9 mbps i get on 4G are good enough to watch hd movies so im not complaining.. yes 21 mbps may be better but i dnt see a reason to switch to t-mobile because t-mobile doesnt get good signal inside buildings so im stickin wit sprint …

      • Cassie

        ^^Not even going to finish reading your post. Learn how to spell. Please and thank you.

      • drivethruboy168

        Go to a sprint blog and talk on there…. get out of here. First off, T-Mobile was the first carrier in the U.S to offer talking on the phone and web browsing at the same time. So you can’t rub that in anyone’s face. Have fun… making calls in hospitals when your not supposed to. And I get perfect signal in my wal mart and subway stations. Where my best friend has sprint and always has to call me back because his wack ass evo keeps dropping calls and super lags! Have fun with your Evo! FAIL!!!

      • http://tmonews britneyJ

        @ drivethruboy168 u are seriosly stupid everyone knows at&t was the first to offer web browsing and talking on the phone at the same time . because it was the first on the usa to take out its 3G network on gsm . verizon took out its 3G newtwork first but it was on the evdo standard so it didnt allow web n broswin at the same time on phones, att was second to take out 3G on the gsm standard so it allowed web browsing and talking at the same time on phones then sprint and T-MOBILE WAS LAST I DONT KNOW IF U REMEMBER ?? do u?? im pretty sure u do… t-mobile was the last carrier on the USA TO TAKE OUT 3G yes t-mobile 3G lets u browse the net and talk on the phone just like att but it was the last carrier to do this.. i dnt kno were u got it was the first carrier in the USA TO allow this .. yes i have t-mobile and i luv t-mobile n everything but first do your research before u talk ok. .. because u just sounded like a retard..

      • http://tmonews i

        @ drivethruboy168 u got burned by britney J lol were did u get t-mobile was the first company on the the usa to allow talking and web browsing on the net at the same time on a phone?? like seriously were have u been??? everyone knows at&t was the first company to allow that on a phone… as much as i hate at&t u gotta handed it to them for being the first one to allow that on a phone..

      • j

        DUH, gina we can do that on 3G and faster to boot. By the way sprint’s 4G is owned by clearwire who is owned by t-nobile

      • P-mob

        J, Clear is not owned by T-Mob.
        Clearwire Corporation (stylized as “clearw?re” in the logo) is a wireless internet service provider (WISP) serving markets in the United States, Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Denmark (with Danske Telecom), and Mexico (via MVSNet). Clearwire was founded by cellular phone pioneer Craig McCaw in October 2003[2][3] and headquartered in Kirkland, Washington. Clearwire uses wireless technology, dubbed pre-WiMax, transmitted from cell sites over licensed spectrum of 2.5–2.6 GHz in the U.S. and 3.5 GHz in Europe.[4]

        On May 7, 2008, Clearwire and Sprint Nextel’s wireless broadband unit Xohm announced their intent to merge, combining Sprint’s 4G WiMax network (Xohm) with Clearwire’s existing pre-Wimax broadband network. Sprint will own 51% of the firm, with ex-Clearwire shareholders owning 27% — a consortium of Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Intel, Google, and Bright House Networks will invest $3.2 billion and own the balance.[5] Clearwire and the cable companies will buy 3G mobile broadband from Sprint as MVNOs[citation needed]. Clearwire/Sprint Nextel officially launched Portland, Oregon as the first market using the new service. Now the company is being marketed under the name CLEAR,[6] except in those markets where the Clearwire name has already been established.[7] (However, it remains uncertain whether this new incarnation of Clearwire, controlled by Sprint, will still continue to offer the contractual conditions which have sparked class action lawsuits in the past.) Clearwire/CLEAR is now implementing WiMAX 802.16e networks in many markets, with the largest to date being the greater metropolitan Chicago market.[8]

        On March 9, 2009 Clearwire named Bill Morrow as CEO, succeeding Benjamin Wolff, who became co-Chairman with Craig McCaw. Morrow, 49, stepped down as CEO of Pacific Gas & Electric Company. Morrow had previously held a number of senior positions at Vodafone.[9]

  • Barry

    Why don’t you just admit you have no intentions on leaving and you’re waiting for a phone you want. You wouldn’t look so bad and ppl would understand that. To say this isn’t a power phone is stupid all you’re looking for is a big screen and ffc that doesn’t define a “superphone”. And I’m pretty sure if you wanted that evo as bad as you claim you woulda had it last month.

  • marcus

    I’m aLil disappointed in what the g2 is gonna be. Tmobile coulda stepped it up and failed. I’ve had a Evo wfor Sprint n kept my tmo service. Hoping they come out with something Jus as good. But in honesty the Evo is the best phone I ever owned. So I think if tmobile is comin out with this junk I’m done

  • Wilma Flintstone

    TMobile needs to secure a deal with Nokia. The N9 is looking sweet.

    • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

      I don’t think that Nokia is or has any plans to get into Android devices.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Who said anything about Tmobile having ONLY Android Devices?

      • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

        Nobody, but aside from Apple iOS/iPhoneOS Android is pretty much the only game around when it comes to smartphones for the consumer space.

        Palm is bought by HP not sure what they are going to do with WebOS but my money is on more tablets and less phones.

        BB will continue to do well in the corporate space because nobody can touch them when it comes to E-Mail but they are “too little too late” in the consumer realm.

        Symbian is technically a Smartphone OS and they still have a decent market share worldwide but that’s going down to the ground quickly and there are no signs of that improving over the short or long term. Nokia is attaching itself to a fairly quickly sinking ship, they will be forced to switch to Android but by then they will decidedly be playing catch up. Motorola bailed on Symbian in 2008 (which has worked out pretty well for them) Symbian will be reduced to a feature phone OS in a few years.

      • Wilma Flintstone

        Um Robert, if Nobody said it, Then wouldn’t that make your original post unnecessary to post?

  • shawn1224

    Finally HTC has a SOC that can compare to the TI OMAP & hummingbird chipsets. This is all most people have been asking for in a high end TMO device. This will be on par with the Vibrant regardless of not being a dual core processor.

    I can only imagine what will be housed in the Mytouch HD (rubs hands together gleefully)

    • scotty

      The funniest thing about people saying the vibrant is the fastest phone out is that from all the reviews and my own personal experience it still does not feel a snappy a droid incredible. I wish they would spend more tine implementing the processors better because the vibrant should have been much faster than it actually is, I’m not saying it is slow but expected more. I keep hearing that the droid incredible is the smoothest actual use phone with 2.1 out now (not gaming wise but actual use)

      • bryan

        The vibrant feels slower than it should because of Touch Wiz. Comparing the Vibrant and the Mytouch Slide side by side the Vibrant is often slower while doing simple things like opening the application launcher. Try running a replacement launcher like ADW, the speed difference is immediately noticeable.

        The main advantage the Vibrant has is the GPU, which is not really utilized until you start pushing the handset. The biggest thing that I notice in daily use is that with the Vibrant you can leave all of the animations and live wallpapers on without slowing down the processor, on just about all the other handsets turning off the animations and live wallpapers speeds up the handset’s responsiveness.

        I would not be surprised if the Droid Incredible is one of the fastest/ smoothest handsets out since it has a good processor, with decent graphics capability, and HTC has optimized the Sense UI better than any of the other non vanilla android UI’s (Touch Wiz, Blur).

      • Rob

        The main issue with the vibrant being slower than other phones is this.. 256mb RAM..It has to constantly wipe and then reload apps onto the ram and with only 256mb (my cliq has that) running android, touch wiz and a few apps this would more than fill up the ram causeing lag. The MTS has 512mb ram why it is faster.

        Processing power isnt everything. If you have a great processor with a low amount of RAM it wont matter.

      • scotty

        That’s what I mean I have used adw on my moms vibrant and it defiantly helps but still not as fast as my brothers stock incredible with sense. Its just that I hear people saying it is the fastest phone around and that is simply not true it just has the fastest processor but that means nothing if it is not as smooth and as for ram the vibrant has 512mb of ram as do all the galaxy s phones

        http://netbooklists.com/full-specifications-of-samsung-vibrant-t959-galaxy-s-with-video-review/

        http://www.technama.com/2010/samsung-vibrant-specs-price-release-date/

      • J-Hop2o6

        yea it has 512MB of RAM.. i heard it doesn’t show more than the high 200′s amount because of Android.. search it on Google since im lazy to find the exact info.

      • Rob

        http://android.t-mobile.com/android-compare-phones

        According to T-Mobile it has only 256mb RAM I would go with that over anything else. And Samsung doesn’t have anything listed on their own website about the Vibrant’s RAM.

  • NiiDiddy

    Good stuff!!

    • Wilma Flintstone

      AAARRRGGGHH!!! Hey NiiDiddy.

  • ManSquito

    This processor looks epic! This is what I have been waiting for. Seems this processor is going to be good for us G1 (soon to be G2) users. I don’t know about anyone else but i multitask a lot on my G1. Finally I will get something that i can rely on. I will be pre-ordering.

    • Scott

      The astroturfing is getting shameless guys. Please be more subtle.

  • MJ

    This phone better have a 1GHz chip or T-Mobile will be, once again, behind the times.

    Hope these guys are correct:

    http://androidandme.com/2010/08/news/the-t-mobile-g2-just-got-a-little-bit-faster-msm7230-cpu-confirmed/

    • Andrew

      It is a 1 GHz chip, but the suggested speed is 800MHz due to battery drain issues, Over all, it is still faster than the 1 GHz snapdragon processors that you see around today.

    • http://robert.aitchison.org Robert Aitchison

      As has already been pointed out Ghz. isn’t everything a Core i7-930 runs at 2.8Ghz while a Pentium 4 HT 661 runs as 3.6Ghz what would you rather have?

  • just some dude

    I have heard that reviewer on videos before, he comes of as rude, arrogant and condescending. He could possibly be French. I dont care for that guy too much, just wanted to put that out there.

  • justin

    WANT! want want want want want! I’ve been so disappointed by the MyTouch Slide that I’ve several times stopped myself in the middle of walking to the AT&T or Verizon store for a replacement iPhone or Droid. If this little bugger is really due soon, I’ll hold out and stay with my beloved Magenta.

  • Rob

    I am sold on this phone now. Will be complaing to tmobile as soon as it comes out about my cliq. My contract ends in novemeber I believe so I’ll have great bargaining tool. I don’t believe they are going to upgrade the cliq especially after not upgrading the Dext in europe.

  • SMB

    ***OFF TOPIC

    Vibrant getting update OTA next week. Tue and Wed. Not FroYo, just a Samsung update.

    • now_onTMO

      woot!

      nice , thanks for sharing

  • Barry

    Nokia would definitely be something the other three carriers don’t offer.

  • Steve

    This phone is looking better and better each day. I think I know what my next phone will be. :)

  • Jake

    So say the 1ghz benchmark is a guy with a 6 incher and the 800mhz is a faster guy with a 4 incher, well I dunno about this N2 phone I really want a 1ghz, sorry I prefer having a bigger one than a faster one.

    • jamaicanidler

      You could have an 8 incher and a guy with a 4 incher could outperform you. What say you bigger equipment then? We’ll have to wait and see what this can do on the G2 first before we jump to conclusions.

  • Barry

    Smh^

  • teport

    Is there a way we can tell if there is a FFC from the rom? i know in those leaked pics you cant really see one but also have been edited quite a bit. not only has the unit numbers been erased but also the + mark for volume on the back of the phone (don’t know why they would put those there but you can see the – sign) on the older leaked pictures with the unit number still on it ( the one that is actually turned on and has vanilla android) it looks like a camera in the top left corner or could be a smudge. also anyone wanna tell me (or show me) what is on the top of the phone? headphone jack? unlock button? HDMI out? micro usb? second micro phone?

    P.S. to people who think i am a complainer or a FFC lover, i am already getting this phone. just looking at the different development units and how they have changed.

  • branon

    Is this going to be the next developer phone?

    • Scott

      Not a chance. Think of the G2 as another mytouch-type phone.

      • TadpoleBuckshot

        g2 is as far from mytouch is as you are from actually grasping the concepts detailed in the videos.

  • chicomendez

    i will admit that this g2 looks like a nexus with keyboard…and i wanted the nexus one and never got one…so i am excited to pick this one up…

  • Moses

    Adreno 205 is the chip that the g2 will use and adreno 200 is the one that the evo, incredible and so on use….. the adreno 205 chipset at 800 mhz is comparble to the hummingbird processor at 1ghz.

  • TadpoleBuckshot

    Preordered my G2 today. RIP G1.

  • TadpoleBuckshot

    Is this the 800 MHz Qualcomm MSM 7230?

  • android fan1

    im gettin this as soon as it comes out ill even wake up at 5 to get ready to pick it up at tmo stores, they open at 8am right?

  • android fan1

    lol some ppl are still dilusional about sprint being better than tmo, get over it sprintfan and iphone fans, tmo is the best phone company it is the most recent big phone company in the US thats why it doesnt have as many customers as verizon but give at least 3 more years

    to the iphone fans let me tell yu that the nexus one killed the iphone bak on january the 3GS didnt stand a chance i saw the comparison video it won agaisnt iphone. the iphone 4 vs the nexus one video i saw it still didnt stand a chance on speed, web browser and many other things lol iphone was history the day the nexus one came out and will b once again with the G2, the truth is things have change, remember bak wen the iphone came out phones had to keep up with it and did they have a hard time at keepin up hell yea but that was until the nexus one! now the iphone is the one that has to keep up with its competition ANDROID! android app market is now 80,000 + iphone 100,000 + and it may not have as much apps but relax its only been 2 years and went from just 50 apps to 80,000+ thats some huge improvement soon and we’ll have more than the iphone, in fact it is estimated in 3 years ANDROID will b the most popular phones.

    sorry for iphone fans but iphone being the best is only a thing of the past sorry but move on and dont hate on others just cuz they beat yu every good thing comes to an end….

  • android fan1

    android is growin at an unimaginable speed i love it