Stop The Presses, iPhone Coming To T-Mobile In Q3?

Cult of Mac, certainly a trusty and prominent Mac related website is reporting that T-Mobile is in the “advanced stage” of talks with Apple to bring the iPhone to T-Mobile. This “highly placed source” pegs the chances of a T-Mobile iPhone at “80 percent likely that the iPhone will be coming to T-Mobile in Q3.” Those are some damn nice odds in the favor of T-Mobile. Of course this, like any iPhone rumor is to be taken only with the strictest grains of salt.

It’s likely that many of you may scoff at the idea of an iPhone T-Mobile iPhone, being a happy Android house right now. There is little doubt however, as to what it would do to for T-Mobile itself. AT&T has seen such success with the iPhone from a subscriber standpoint that T-Mobile would be foolish to pass up such a premiere device and a golden opportunity. The iPhone, love it or hate it is a golden goose right now and would be an immediate boost to T-Mobile and an opportunity to “steal” away unhappy AT&T customers by the truckload with lower prices and a solid network.

Obviously, technology favors T-Mobile as we’ve seen with the recent Wired report claiming that Apple gave up on a Verizon iPhone idea because they would have to rebuild the entire device. With T-Mobile and AT&T running the exact same technology (did anyone really need me to write that?) it would be a much smoother experience for Apple to put the iPhone in the hands of Magenta.

It’s impossible to say whether rumors like this have any actual truth behind them as iPhone rumors are a dime a dozen. Not to mention that anything regarding this matter is one of the most easy to claim and hardest to prove in the wireless game. Getting the scoop on Apple’s next move is like the golden ticket in the tech blog world and while we have complete faith in Cult of Mac and their confidence in their source, we can’t discount disinformation or simply bad information from playing a role here. That being said, we’re definitely all for this coming to fruition, if for no other reason than because of what it could do for T-Mobile and their future prospects.

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  • TMOprophet

    ipawnd=fail
    wp7=your new phone
    TMOprophet=real TMOprophet not fake one………..hi guys…..
    I LOVE YOU DAVID….get a wp7 review going here bro.

  • tmoled

    q3 is over in a little over 2 months. If we the deal is 80% sure to happen at all at this point, how do they expect to release the phone in 2 months? I love the look of the new iphone, played with it over the weekend alongside a vibrant, and although the vibrant wins over iphone is some departments, the iphone looked way more expensive, they did a fantastic job with the case this time around, it looks great, very elegant and expensive looking. I would love for this rumor to be true, but I’m only 20% convinced.

    • davidohio

      yes it looks elegant and expensive but this is all just looks. In my opinion android hp yay better. It is what is on the inside that counts.

      • Mockerfab4

        Played with several of my friends iPhone 4′s. The color, the weight, the battery life. Want this even more now!!! Hope the rumours are true for Tmo. Otherwise, I’m heading to ATT. Don’t like Android. Blackberry doesn’t quite do it anymore. WP7 won’t be released until christmas. And I seriously need to upgrade this 1G iphone QUICK!

  • ennTOXX

    This sounds more like a marketing ploy to keep people from jumping to Verizon’s new Android handsets since the myTouch Slide’s launch wasn’t everything Tmo had anticipated.
    So rather than have people leave and go with the gold that is on the other carriers, this might help buy time until Tmo releases future handsets later this year.
    Many Tmo users are eager for the froyo updates and seeing as other carriers heavier tech devices seem to be getting the updates first, Tmo should be worried about losing they’re rep as the Android carrier of choice.
    IMO, 2 months of a secret release of an iPhone makes no sense from a business stand point, cause how else would you keep people from jumping ship while a secret launch is in the works?

  • http://tmonews Maximus

    Maybe Apple can’t make enough iPhones is because now they have to make them for TMo too for a Sept 2010 launch. BTW this is when they usually release their new iPod line-up. Maybe Jobs will say at the end of his speech, “Wait, there’s one more thing……” Just hoping. Also, Shaw Wu of Kaufman Bros made this same prediction, along with a million others, back in June. He said his supply sources were saying fall of 2010.

  • Peter

    And the world is going to end world is going to end tomorrow.
    Folks, I like the iphone but I love android. If this happens this year,
    I will buy one and give away. I doubt that will happen.

  • mailman13877

    Smfh..I asked before if you had to choose between the Evo,Droid iphone n vibrant on TMO you’d most likely skip the vibrator an people said those phones are not like the vibrator..Now some news bout getting an iphone an all of a sudden a bunch of iphone fans come out??sounds fishy an SETTLING as far as chossing that vibrator lol..didn’t they say that TMOs 3G network couldn’t handle the iphone 4 as of now?guess it would be hspa+ but wait…TMO is guaranteed to NOT get the iphone in Q3 no matter what that source says.Q3 is almost over even if they acquired it.I guarantee it wouldn’t come to TMO atleast until next summer when they assume they’ll be done setting up hspa+..smh..hurry up already Sprint I want my Evooooo.ftw

    • pantlesspenguin

      Reading comprehension, you’re doing it very wrong. iPhone fans? Where? Concentrate & read the comments again. Most are talking about what having the iPhone on T-Mo’s network would mean for the company & its current customers. I’ve hardly seen ANY comments from people saying they’d actually get the iPhone on T-Mo if this comes to fruition.

      PLEASE SPRINT HURRY UP & GET THE EVO BACK SO THIS JACK@$$ WILL LEAVE US ALONE!

      • Osama Bin iPHone

        I’d def get the iphone 4. Matter of fact i already have the 3GS that i use with the network. Tmo has tons of iphone users. this would be major to those who want it[iPhone4] but don’t want the hassle of jail breaking and unlocking the device, and don’t have the resources to buy a factory unlocked version, which can run up to $1,300.00.

    • john

      Go to radio shack, the one here has 10 white evo’s. Then don’t come back to tmonews again.

    • john

      Also let us know how that whole screen leakage thing treats you

    • christc

      Uhh…you’re not very good at math are you??? If a quarter is 3 months and we’re almost finished with the FIRST month, how do you figure that Q3 is almost over??? It’s not even 1/3 over yet since July isn’t even over. Q3 runs July 1 through September 30th.

  • remixfa

    lol. id take the vibrant over the iphone4 any day. infact i did. its not even a contest. apple sux.

    the only thing about having the iphone on tmobile is the surge in sales related to it. a year or 2 of it could be enough to pull tmobile to 3rd place behind ATT.. IF the iphone on tmobile is HSPA+ enabled, so that people on ATT rebuy the thing on tmobile.

    • Ricknexus

      Come on man, you can’t be serious. That was a joke right? The Vibrant over the iphone 4? I just returned my vibrant and am sticking with the nexus. The Vibrant is nothing special at all.

      • YJ

        Finally someone else who returned the vibrant and kept their nexus. The store Rep looked at me crazy

  • SEFan

    Are we doing this again?? This must be the longest courtship ever.

    I do have to admit that a T-Mo iPhone would make my life easier. I have an iPod Touch already, so am familiar with the OS. I use a Mac, have all my music in iTunes, so an iPhone would make it a lot easier to move stuff between devices. Not to say I couldn’t do it on an Android phone, but I’d have to figure out HOW. With an iPhone I already know how. ‘Course with an iPhone I’ll have to relearn how to hold a phone… Sorry, couldn’t resist…

    • j

      you do realize itunes play on the vibrant, blackberries and other phones now. Apple is way over priced and not worth the money

      • Osama Bin iPHone

        actually itunes only plays songs you had mp3 files of on your puter, on your forementioned compatible devices. iTunes won’t sync songs you purchased on the said devices, Blackberry..etc. I believe it has something to do with the file encoding or DRM[f*#k DRM]. and yeah, apple devices are way overpriced; yet here i am holding an iphnone 3GS it’s all a matter of preference. if the device suits your lifestyle then clearly you’ll choose the device that does so.

  • ctk

    i really don’t know if i would get an ip4. i already have an itouch 2g, an ip3g and an ip3gs (ironically bought the same day i bought the vibrant). my reason for owning an iphone is now out the window- it was so i could listen to streaming audio in my car. the vibrant can handle that now. i’m planning on using the 3g as a cheap gps, the 3gs (as soon as a jailbreak for phones on the 4.0 firmware that weren’t jailbroken previously) for voice calls on my prepaid account. the itouch i may sell.

    the only thing that would draw me back is the apps i’ve invested in already.

  • rooster

    No thanks! I love the Android and the VIBRANT!

  • Hmm

    Haha, if Tmo gets the iphone then it would no longer be in 4th place. We all are saying how great android is yet why do people still buy the iphone? Folks on this site are the minority at this time in terms of android. Yes android is gaining, yet think about how that is being done. Multiple phones with android on multiple carriers and the iphone got to it’s position with one carrier and one phone with its os. Now if it goes to 2 carriers, and especially Tmo, you may see a jump to possible lower price plans thus an increase for Tmo. Whether android is better than apple os is not relevant, it’s been the marketing.

  • Terrell

    I’ll stick to my perfectly fine Vibrant. Yes that would drive sales up for T-Mobile and I like the carrier so I wouldn’t shrug my shoulders at that. There is still no way I would ever purchase an iPhone. Been with Android since the beginning and plan to stay there.

  • rstar

    i will believe it when i see it.

    • analog spirit

      I’m with you on this one; I’ll believe it when I hear El Jobso announce it himself, and/or I see it finally show up in T-Mobile stores, whichever happens first.

  • Barry

    IPhone good for business, not for me though. Also don’t want a bogged down network. But we shall see what happens. I was thinking this can’t happen because it would screw up with the launches in the next couple months but there is definitely room for both especially if marketed right. Cause there are die hard android fans (like myself) that don’t even consider iPhone worthy of being a paperweight then there are die hard iPhone users that consider it a godsend (blah) Verizon has proved this with their last two high-end launches. Most would probably be at&t escapees anyway.

  • kast107

    While I despise what Apple stands for, I can definitely see this happening. From a business perspective, many families and/or non-computer saavy people will definitely switch to a Tmo iPhone. It’s interface is, after all, user friendly. The customer base on Tmo has been predominantly the non-geeks, no offense to anyone, which would make the iphone perfect for those who choose to follow the Apple pack.

    This news also explains why ATT let users upgrade if they were within 6 months of their Contracts ending. This will force people to stay with a sub-par (IMO) network, rather than switching to the much more reliable Tmo network. Few people will still jump ship and come to Tmo, but now Apple can collect those ETFs.

    Notice how this news also came out just after the 30 day cancellation/return time period was up for those early adopters?

    Maybe I’m just a conspiracy theorist, but it makes sense to me.

  • TroyAG1

    If the iPhone came to T-Mobile it would be the downfall of the iPhone People on T-mo expect great customer service, Apple is the King of DouchBag service and just being on T-Mobile would give the iPhone less ‘cred’. That being said there are still people on T-Mo who wanted the iPhone 4-5 years ago when it was better than everything else who will still buy one, heck you may not even need a Band-aid for it on T-Mo bands.

  • SwizzleStix

    a> Rumor, always rumors
    b> If not a rumor (doubt it), then GREAT for T-mobile! Great for Apple! yay!
    c> How many of you a-hole haters will end up owning one????? (Yeah, say NO now, we got our eye on you dicks)
    d> I don’t want one. Ever. Because when I hate on the iPhone, its NOT out of jealousy (see item C) But really, do bring it to Tmobile please. They need the boost.

    • http://TheMixtapeCity.com TheMixtapeCity.com

      c> How many of you a-hole haters will end up owning one????? (Yeah, say NO now, we got our eye on you dicks)

      lmfao… Exactly what my thoughts were.

      I will admit, I am as big of an android fan since its arrival.. I even came up with a slogan for the G1.. “If you aint got a G1 you need one” lol which after that all my friends got one. But we all arent stupid and would def give iphone a try on our beloved tmobile.. Be serious ya’ll.

  • J

    My first Android experience has been with the GarminFone and it has been really good. In fact I am super impressed. It does many things really well and between the Garmin UI and Google’s OS it is really cool. The iPhone is neat buuutttt….Will I move over, not sure… JMO..!

  • Mike Lowery

    I’ve seen many reports that Dell’s new phone: The Dell Streak will be released on AT&T and unlocked on their website for T-Mobile customers. Any info on that? Tweet me if you any one does @Jaehood2010

  • swehes

    It would be nice for T-mobile. And for some iPhone loving people. Me Myself and I will however never own a product Apple releases. Android is the future. It would just be a step better if it would actually come unlocked and rooted for the user.

    • Osama Bin iPHone

      the fututre? i wouldn’t go that far. It’s OK. My other line holders both use android OS phones, and i have the iPhone 3GS unlocked. It’s a simpler interface, and more reliable.

  • cybah

    ehhh I don’t think I’ll be jumping on the iPhone bandwagon if it were to come to T-Mobile. At least right now. I like my TP2 and really liking the looks of the Vibrant. And I’m excited to see what Windows Mobile 7 has to offer over the iPhone. Upgrades from 5 to 6, and then 6 to 6.5 were great and vastly improved the experience. 7 should be a winner. Too had Microsoft Desktop OS’s couldn’t be this show stopping. (*laugh*)

    I’m just not a fan of Apple or the iPhone. It appears that it restricts people too much in what they can do. I like freedom of choice of what I can do, not what Apple says I can do with their phone. With Windows mobile I can put any application I want on it via ActiveSync. (or any ROM for that matter) The iPhone, Apple needs to “approve” the app before it gets listed in the store. (many developers have had their apps rejected based on adult content, bad programming, etc etc). I also feel like if I went with the iPhone, I’m locked to Apple forever. I don’t like chains thankyouverymuch. I may be in a small percentage of users who are “power users” like this, but I like options, not to be limited.

    I also think making the hardware leap from AT&T to T-Mobile will not be a hard one. Both run on GSM networks. People have already ‘jail broken’ their 3Gx models to work on T-Mobile, so we know the hardware can support the frequency spectrum. So in a straight point of view, it seems like the leap is not a far jump and may just be a software upgrade for present devices.

    However, I will say that my roommate works at Apple (in a store) and he says Apple does releases once a year, so a Q3 release is unlikely other than an official announcement for a release in June 2011. (June is when Apple releases products). That would give Apple almost an entire year to re-engineer the iPhone to fully take advantage of T-Mobile’s network.

    But I’ll believe all this hype when I see the words come out of Mr Jobs’ mouth.

  • chicago081

    Hello, hello, hello, trying to get a call out on this iphone 4. Maybe if I hold it upside down….

  • chicago081

    By the way, I heard on the Kim Kommando computer show that T Mobile will be getting the iphone.

  • http://www.absolutefiction.com [rono]

    Still a rumor?
    Can T-mo get it before Verizon?

  • remixfa

    ricknexus,

    sooo wait.. u look at me crosseyed because id choose the vibrant over the iphone4? yet you went back to a nexus? U do realize thats basically the same thing right? LOL

    What is it you didnt like about the vibrant? The samsung overlays? Quick and easy root and flash and they dissapear.
    Its got a bigger screen, better screen, better battery life by far, a dedicated GPU, more powerful CPU, way more storage space built in (16 gig built in), 32g mem card support on top of that, wireless N out of the box, beats every android phone in any test its given, so on and so forth.

    Yea, the nexus 1 is an exellent phone… the vibrant/galaxyS is better though. last years best vs this years best.

    • Homer

      I got the vibrant, did not like it at all…….yes the screen was bigger. (side by side of the nexus one it doesn’t look that much bigger!) It’s snappy I’ll give it that, it has more built in memory I’ll give it another, But it feels cheap! It feels really plasticy like the mytouch slide. And YES the touchwiz is horrible, I traded it for a nexus one. Don’t get me wrong, I am a phone whore I always get the next best thing I bought the vibrant to be honest the vibrant is not…….it’s great that t-mobile put out something, they needed to. It is great to see magenta put out more powerful stuff. I did not like the hd2 I took it back, bought the mytouch slide decent phone great keyboard feels cheap and plasticy, Bought the vibrant, cool screen not my cup of tea. Nexus is everything I had hoped it to be and then some! You guys can have fun with your vibrant, while I have fun with my nexus enjoying free EA games, froyo with flash 10.1 all the goodies that come along with it and will be playing with gingerbread before anyone else. Hummingbird chip is better, has more memory, has better screen, doesn’t matter if you can’t put it into a great package and back it up. I trust samsung as much as I trust Michael Jackson watching my kids! (too soon?) samsung is gonna have to prove themselves to a lot of people. Everyone should not have to rely on xda developers to get a good phone……..

      • Homer

        And I know this is on the iPhone section but just had to throw my two scents in!

      • joel

        Two … scents? *sniffs* Ewwwwwwww ….

      • tortionist

        My touch slide plasticy? What are you smoking? crack? The my Touch Slide does not feel plasticy. It feels solid and metallic, not plasticy. I wanted the HTC Desire, but that one really feels too light and plasticy. Get your crap straight. The my Touch Slide feels less plasticy than pretty much everything out there and i’ve messed with pretty much all of them.

    • adam

      REMIXFA it can be powerful device but with t-mobile the update take longer then apple updating there phones.Good choice at nexus because by time t-mobile update there phone verizon and google own nexus one will be at 3.0 os. Meanwhile t-mobile try to update there current phone with 2.2 os and try to get a new phone for ppl to buy to have 3.0 pre installed . I Call that a scam if u going to get new phone for new os if u cant update them like verizon and sprint can and did with there lineup last year..

      • adam

        I want to say is t-mobile can keep up with the update they shouldnt buy so many phone. Just buy 2 or 3 per year. Like they wont exclude phone like samsung behold 2 only got one update it took them 7 month from nov09 to june 2010. Same with cliq and cliq qt hasnt yet got an update. They only got mytouch slide was to get rid of customer who had those phone. Like are u serious t-mobile google phone were ment to get update not do an iphone on us tell us to get a new phone for an updates, that probably main reason ppl got this phone. Even then the iphone got the update. And, verizon has update all there 2 phone that came out in nov 6 droid and droid eris to 2.1 os. Before getting the new phone again like there htc incredible (apr 25,2010),droid x(july 15).

      • john

        @ adam…
        Huh?

        Did notice whining about the cliq, it will get 2.1 once moto fixes the battery bugs, don’t whine about 2.2 either, the nexus is the only phone with it.

    • Swyper Always Swyping

      Could not have said it any better myself. I still wouldn’t get a IP4 though, I love my Vibrant too much.

  • adam

    well said homer i gave my cliq and g1 to my sis and brother. To get htc incredible i dont regret moving from t-mobile. They have horrible google phone is just not enough for me love my droid incredible verizon getting android 2.2 os on there phone like htc incredible and droid x in at end of july or early august. Cant wait for froyo. T-mobile good phone bad promotion and delay the update to long sowwy no love for t-mobile

  • adam

    I wanted to say is t-mobile cant keep up with its update they shouldnt buy so many phone. Just buy 2 or 3 per year. Like they wont exclude phone like samsung behold 2 only got one update it took them 7 month from nov09 to june 2010. Same with cliq and cliq qt hasnt yet got an update. They only got mytouch slide was to get rid of customer who had those phone. Like are u serious t-mobile google phone were ment to get update not do an iphone on us tell us to get a new phone for an updates, that probably main reason ppl got this phone. Even then the iphone got the update. And, verizon has update all there 2 phone that came out in nov 6 droid and droid eris to 2.1 os. Before getting the new phone again like there htc incredible (apr 25,2010),droid x(july 15).

    • homer

      That’s why I am hoping that Google’s predictions come true. There hoping with gingerbread fragmentation will be history. They hoping to be like IOS where there’s an update once a year. That would eliminate so many different new phones running different OS’s. I hope there right cause that’s one of the benefits of apple software its there’s and they handle all the updates. I say let Google build it and let Google update it. If you want to put something on it. Put it in the marketplace. I got my FRF85B build today that’s two updates in in three days.

  • http://magicbluesmoke.org Hi, I’m 12 and what is this?

    I suggest that nobody read this comment. It may be wrong, and it may kill your dog.

    T-mobile and AT&T have the same cellular technology, at the heart of it, it’s called a WCDMA(UMTS) network. WCDMA is the air interface, the protocol the phone uses to talk with a tower, and UMTS is the internal network structure. They both have HSDPA/HSUPA, and in my experience they’re both generally reliable and fast.

    A phenomenon called the breathing/shrinking cell phenomenon happens on all cdma-based networks (This include Sprint and Verizon’s CDMA2000 networks, and all the WCDMA-based UMTS networks in the world).

    The essence of the issue is the more mobile phones on a single tower, the more they interfere with each other (interference is one of the critical factors in determining coverage in a cdma-based system).

    The reason they interfere is because they all use the same radio frequency simultaneously using something called a code (This is the “C” in CDMA) to differentiate between them, but the more phones, the harder it is to differentiate. To compensate for the interference, the tower tells each phone to transmit with more power. If your phone is already at max power, once the other phones closer to the tower turn up their power, your call will drop.

    Likewise, if too many towers are too close to each other, there will be too much interference and even though your signal is very strong, you will not be able to sign onto the network or make a call. This is called Pilot Pollution. The pilot is one of the channels on a WCDMA air interface which a mobile phone uses to determine the scrambling code used on other channels. What matters more than what it actually does is that it’s required for a phone to sign onto the network.

    Anyway, because of this shrinking cell phenomenon, and because of the thing called Pilot Pollution one of the critical factors in setting up a WCDMA-based UMTS network is how many simultaneous subscribers you will have in a cell. If you expect 20 customers maximum and plan for your cell to have a certain radius and deploy your network like that, and it turns out that you have 50 people on, the shrinking cell phenomenon is going to cause holes in your 3G coverage, depending on the load of the cell.

    If you compensate by deploying many more cells in congested areas, you run the risk of servicing no customers at all because the towers will all interfere with each other. Therefore it’s a delicate balance to set up a WCDMA network. When ATT had a large influx of new customers that likely went beyond expected+pad capacity, it would definitely cause frustrations among customers who experience coverage holes depending on the time of day.

    ATT has the luxury of being able to deploy additional WCDMA towers on a frequency different than their strained network to add additional coverage in high traffic areas without causing additional interference by putting more towers on the same frequency.

    T-mobile does not have that luxury, so instead they are upgrading their technology from HSPA to HSPA+ which in of itself will allow more simultaneous customers to be served on a single cell.

    LTE, which was once called HSOPA (sound familiar?) totally gets rid of cdma. HSOPA is a new air interface for UMTS that is incompatible with WCDMA.

    The O in HSOPA stands for OFDMA. OFDMA splits up a certain frequency range into many small blocks called subcarriers. A mobile phone may be a number of these subcarriers at once. Because a band can be split up into small subcarriers, you can have many subcarriers, or just a few and this is what makes LTE more flexible with spectrum that WCDMA, which commonly is only used in 5MHz blocks. A fixed 5MHz block is used in WCDMA to make things cheaper and more portable – uses less battery.

    So LTE is flexible towards smaller and larger frequency allocations. Also, LTE does not experience the shrinking cell phenomenon because each user has a frequency that is not being used by anyone else. It is designed quite a bit more like wifi than any other 3G technology. LTE also improves the number of customers you can have on a single cell, and has significantly less latency than HSPA+.

    If you read it all, I hope you learned something, and I hope I am not too wrong with any particular part. Don’t take my word for it, but you’ll find a lot of wrong things out there. Anyone can say “ATT sucks”. Few want to know how exactly a WCDMA(UMTS) network becomes overloaded, how it’s planned, and why these things happen.

  • tmoled

    Samsung galaxy s spanks iphone(minus the case, iphone’s is years ahead of plastic Samsung case. Both their screens are super impressive, so they tie. The camera on Samsung is amazing! Keep your 8mp on droid x and evo, camera on Samsung blows everyone out of the water! Galaxy s better overall than anything out right now in U.S. Samsung Vibrant…is not galaxy s and it falls short. All the nexus one nutthuggers, give me a break! Your love for n1 is subjective, vibrant walks all over n1. N1 is no longer relevant, definitely not bthe king of the road, there is nothing special about n1. If anything it stinks of apple the way they went about selling n1. Couldn’t even play with one in person, before you buy it, talk about blind devotion. I know this is gonna offend n1 owners, but u guys trash everything else for no reason so don’t get mad.

    • jack

      Got a samsung dildo up your ass much?

      • tmoled

        Nope.

  • going_home

    What worries me about this rumor is this.
    If this is true, is TMO going to turn its back on Android and the real superphones ? :(
    AT&T is at the bottom when it comes to Android superphones.
    I hope that doesnt happen because I am not an Apple fan at all.
    I mean if you gave me an Iphone 4 I wouldnt refuse it,
    but I wouldnt use it either, I’d just sell it.
    Android is by far the best OS and I’m sticking with it.
    I really like my Nexus and I would buy one if HTC would come out with an N2 !

    :D

  • remixfa

    1) i wouldnt worry about Tmobile “turning its back” on android superphones. Android started on Tmobile and Tmobile has the largest Android selection.

    2) to “adam”. Tmobile doesnt make updates for phones. The manufacturers do. Tmobile might make sure that the update is solid before it allows a deploy but it doesnt code them. SAMSUNG killed the updates on the behold2 and MOTOROLA is taking it sweet time with the Cliq updates. NOT Tmobile. I dont know what language ur speaking but its not completely english. OI. High profile devices like the Droid and Nexus get updates fast because they are VANILLA android phones. Untouched google software. The more customized it is, the longer it takes to update. Companies always do their biggest sellers first then roll down the line. Thats why the Droid, Nexus, Incredible, ect will always get updates first before other phones like the Cliq. The GalaxyS series is extremely high profile and will be upgraded quickly or samsung will face a very large backlash from consumers… who are already weary of samsung’s history.

    3) I thought about the little GalaxyS – Nexus debate we all seem to be having. Were basically arguing between a ferrari and a lamborghini. One is slightly faster one is slightly more “luxorious”. But does anyone really lose?

    I am all for the “vanilla” phones from now on, with manufacturers putting their skins on the market for sale. MotoBlur could never do that because its not just a skin like Sence or Touchwiz, but it would free up more phones than not to a stock skin so they update faster. Then you’d just have to chose between stock and fast updates or the greatly increased functionality of MotoBlur and slow updates.
    Concidering there are already skin apps on the market its not even a far stretch.

  • remixfa

    oh, sorry, but forgot something.

    its not “depending” on the mod community, its loving the mod community. Stock android is great. Many of the enhancements are great. But none of those compare to what a ROM modder does to the phone. Much of what google is enhancing Android with in 2.2 and 3.0 was developed through the mod community and is already in place. Apps2SD? Its new to android 2.2, but its been a mainstay of the bulk of the mod communities ROMS since the original G1.

    If your not modding thats fine.. but you are also missing a wealth of new programs and abilities.

  • going_home

    I was told by a TMO rep on tuesday in a company store that its not Samsung’s fault.
    That its TMO that not pushing the updates thru.
    Loud and clear TMO, stop the holding up of Android updates !

    :D

    • David

      There is almost zero chance that rep actually knows this in any possible way.

  • Tophat

    I hope this pans out… All the products Apple manufactures are made to be user friendly they do what they say they will do and you don’t have to tweek the hell out of then They just work smooth and flawlessly…. Been with T-mobil 10 years and will be first in line to get one……………………….

    • Mockerfab4

      5+ year customer and was planning to get the ip4 end of this month and switch over to ATT, but then this rumor put that off. I will be first in line as well. I will actually CAMP out for this phone. I would never freakin’ do that, but I really want this phone. I’ve been waiting patiently for Apple to release this phone elsewhere and stood by Tmo hoping they’d release something better, but they keep releasing Android phones and I already made that mistake once. So please let this rumour be true!!

  • remixfa

    going_home.

    as a rep at tmobile and working for other companies, it was SAMSUNG that killed the update. THEY decide how far to update. All the carrier does is verify that the update is safe. They cant force samsung to update to 2.1 or anyone else for that matter.

  • Bobert

    Happy Nexus user on TMO.
    If the IPhone were available on all carriers it would be an android bloodbath of epic proportions.
    GOOGLE should be thankful IPhone isn’t carrier wide.

  • Stormy

    They cam keep it.. If T-Mobile would actually advertise something worth advertising they wouldn’t have to stoop to that level. Take for instance the Vibrant. Hands down has beat the iPhone in all performance areas. but none of us will ever see a Vibrant commercial. Samsung released a Galaxy S commercial with AT&T’s logo on it. Who had it first? T-Mobile. how many people went in to buy the phone launch day? Not enough.. at my store there was no merchandise out, the demo phone was in the back room, the displays were still in box’s. T-mobile needs to get off its HIGH HORSE when it comes to their FLAGSHIP My Touch Devices and start taking some initiative and promoting what will sell, Not what they hope will sell. Why Did the Motorola DROID do so well. It was on TV like every commercial break!! I have seen ZERO ads for the Slide in the last 2 weeks. And ZERO ads for the Vibrant. It isn’t even first on the website. The My Touch Slide is. Old news. and was build behind what was already out. my opinion on the whole slide project #FAIL! With the first HSPA+ plus phone coming soon I sure hope T-Mobile thinks about putting some advertising bucks behind it. I have sold them 3 Vibrant’s with minimal effort in 1 week. make some effort. the customers will come but the majority of them are brainwashed by the media. And we aren’t in the media to contribute

    • dr.alliw

      agreed! even in HTC HD2, they didn’t make good promotion . i think tmo needs to realize about good promotion. how to sell their products. but i think, selling your products on tv(advertise) cost a lot of money, so i think that what’s tmo is thinking! why they spends a million dollar for 30sec. or less commercial, if they don’t even sure that people will buy them. so that means, even tmo itself, don’t believe in their own product! ’nuff said

  • dr.alliw

    i hear rumors everywhere that by the end of the year, TMO is going to release its first HSPA+ device, so im thinking this could an iphone? since i’ve been hearing that iphone is going to tmo, there a chance that iphone is really going to tmo by the year ends. and if so, what iphone version is going to tmo? the fact that iphone 4 is just came out recently with ATT, and im suree tmo dont want to go back to 3gs, as they plan to make an iphone as their first HSPA+ device( if this true). if iphone4 is really going to tmo, they need to straighten out the signal issue, cos i dont think its the carrier, its something to do with the design. but oh well, i would def love to hold an iphone with the big T on it. so TMO, make it happen pls! and to current tmo users that don’t like iphone going to tmo, stop crying children,y’all dont have to get an iphone if you dont want to, but im pretty sure, most tmo customers, are thrilled to see iphone to tmo. the only reason of me getting an iphone is that because, att sux! that is all. ’nuff said.. and oh one more thing, if ever iphone is going to tmo, they need stick to their data plan pricing, dont be like stupid att data plan. you know what im talking about.

  • http://yahoo.com xandra

    OMG THE IPHONE IS COMING TO TMOBILE I AM SO FREAKING HAPPY I CANT WAIT I HOPE I GET IT I WILL NEED TO ASK MI MOM AND HOPEFULLY MI CONTRACT ENEDS BY THEN…IT WILL BE SO KEWL TO SHOW AND TELL MI FRENDS THAT I GOT AN IPHONE..I CANT WAIT BIII PPL WHO DNT HAVE TMOBILE..WHAT SUKERS U R!!!!!

  • droid king

    Check it out people http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/ this is all i have to say. my neighbor works at tmobile in belvue wa, and she said right after the uk gets it we will have it. but do i want it no. ill keep my galaxy

  • Rifleman

    Is there actually any living soul on the fact of the earth that honestly thinks T-Mobile is going to be seeing the iPhone anytime soon?

    Verizon will be the next provider to see this phone. Right now the question is how much longer will T-Mobile still be in business?

  • Irmaluna90

    when it will come out?
    Irma.

  • Daf

    never?