Samsung Vibrant Meta-Review Extravaganza

So we’re less than 18 hours from the launch of  perhaps the most discussed phone in the history of TmoNews and yet there are those of you still on the fence. In that case, we’re going to do one of our familiar (if you’ve been here before) meta-reviews to help you determine if this is the right phone for you Since T-Mobile keeps “losing” our address with demo phones, we’re going to share the thoughts of some familiar faces around here and their reviews/unboxings/walkthroughs of the Samsung Vibrant. Without further ado, we present to you, the Samsung Vibrant meta-review…please clap, or at least lie and tell us you are.

Video courtesy of MobileBurn

Video courtesy of  MobileBurn

Video courtesy of Phonedog

Video courtesy of CNET, hit the link for their full review


  • mikeeeee

    NO UMA.

    NO mikeeeee.

  • mjcl987

    There’s something i wanna share with tmoReaders:
    there’s a requirement for all of you planning to get the Vibrant from Wirefly(and probably for some other websites) “The line that’s being upgraded needs a period of 22 consecutive months active” yeah thats right, it’s 22 months and not 12 months as You need in tmobile to upgrade a line.
    I hope this comment was useful

    • Nmansell

      That’s all of Tmobile; they changed their upgrade policy. No more full upgrades to smartphones after 12 mo.

      • Want2CBetter

        NOT true – you can still upgrade smartphones with the full discount on the 13th month. I was just told 2 of my lines are eligible for that right now.

    • I just ordered mines on the t-mobile website! ship date 7-23(excited) oh.. it was an upgrade.


      • NiiDiddy

        @Hoss – what did you pay for it? $199 or $250 with $50 MIR??

      • $165 (strange, but not complaining)

      • n00b

        Hoss i was told that price was a glitch and you will actually be charged the correct price… =(

  • ibrahim mustafa

    looks nice… but idk if i want it any more.

    • me

      You lazy Gen-Y (as in WHY???) fk! If you have to make an acronym out of “I don’t know”, just don’t even comment…. I just wish I could have said this to you over the phone with a FrontFacingCamera!! You chump ass, fk-n lazy, non-contributing to society youth MF!
      Oh, did I happen to tell you how I really feel yet?

  • Jimbo

    Any for anyone planing to try to barter on prices good luck

  • joshuakprice1

    Eh. Awesome phone, I admit. But it just feels silly spending $200 on a phone mere months before android 3.0, the fabled emerald (and now vanguard), and true HSPA+ 21 mbps glory. I know I know “you can’t keep up, you eventually have to make a decision”. But 3.0 is a big move, and we already know its almost here. I don’t want to wait two years to try it! Plus I’m not willing to risk another samsung “no upgrade” debacle… HTC has always done right by me.

    • Tomtom

      That’s why I’m buyin mine outright and save my upgrade for emerald

      • joshuakprice1

        Sounds good, but I’m poor. So I’m saving my money outright, and using it for the emerald. Speaking of which, anyone know how to get extra cash?:)

      • Animate

        Smart man. I’m doing the same.

      • Macknifetx

        I’m probably going to do the same, depending on what the outright price will be. I have heard three number, 330 (not likely), 450 (possible), and 500 (most likely). I do not qualify for a full upgrade yet, but even if I did, I still do not want to be locked into extending my agreement for another two years.

      • wait wait wait… you can DO that???? haha. i didn’t know that. how much would a vibrant be to buy outright and still be able to do a full upgrade when my contract expires in july 2011?

      • tpavey

        Why wait to use upgrade? If you upgrade now, then you are eligible again in 22 months. If you upgrade later you are eligible 26 months from now (assuming mid-November launch). Either way you pay for one subsidized and one full-price phone.

        T-mobile usually subsidizes phones pretty consistently and my guess is that the November HTC will be similar from an amount saved standpoint.

        In the end you save money now that you can invest and gain interest on until November.

      • It’s $439 spoke to the T-Mobile representative lady, & it comes out tomorrow. & plus it said it was $439 on one of the poster things they posted on here, the 9 was just cut off. But, we know T-Mobile doesn’t go even number’s only 9’s. So it was $43…9 = $439

      • phonegeek

        @macknifetx the outright price is 450

    • Stillwaiting

      I keep seeing these comments about updates for phones. It’s not encouraging when 2.2 is out and phones still come out with 2.1 or less in some cases. Samsung has said the phone will get .2, but when? Probably in six months (pure guess). In one press release they said they couldn’t commwnt about 3.0 because google was still developing it. Again these are not encouraging comments, but at least with the slowing of android updates by google shortly, these problems will be a thing of the past.

      • Garet

        2.2 just came out these phones were developed with 2.1 they cant make a phone with os that is not out yet.And it takes longer then a month to port their versions and get their drivers for the new os also.

  • Brodi

    Is full upgrade $250-$50 mail in rebate to get $199 or is it just $199 no rebate?

    • phonegeek

      Its 250 with a $50 rebate

      • Brodi

        $50 rebate even through loyalty?

      • phonegeek

        now thru loyalty im not sure but im pretty sure its going to be the same thing unless you hassle them a bit ( being very nice of course) but i was just at tmobile today talking about the phone an thats the info i got its 250 with mail in rebate for 50 and the outright price is 449.99 aka 450 which isnt that bad so im going to buy it out right save that upgrade for something pristine tho this phone is the closest to pristine that i can think of

      • phonegeek

        dont kno what the sales rep was thinking maybe he meant in store but online ( mytmobile) im seeing its going to be 499.99 … looks like ill just go to bestbuy mobile an trade in a phone or two, but with a 2 year extension for me 449.99 with 50 mail in… its the only phone in my list on my upgrades that is above 100 and something…..

  • wooshring

    I’m 18mos in & can get full upgrade…they said because I’m on the Family Plan, that makes me eligible…PHEW!..had me worried there for a few minutes guys!

  • Applause

    Will I be able to purchase this online tomorrow? Or do I have to go in-store to buy it?

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Just bought mine online via My T-Mobile. It’s 7:30 pm PDT here.

      • phonegeek

        @itsmichaelnotmake how much did you pay im seeing 449 with mail in rebate and 499 outright an im eligible for full upgrade ( mytouch slide is 179 etc etc) this is the only phone on the site still at 449 with 2 year extension

  • Regular Joe

    I’m really liking that live wallpaper they’ve got running in the MobileBurn video. Wow that screen looks great!

    • Fender

      I tried the vibrant at my local Tmo store today and this phone actually feels pretty nice. It is a little too light which makes it feel a little “cheaper” but it is lightning fast and the screen is amazing in person. Personally, I’ve been wating far too long for a decent android phone and dont think I can wait a couple more months for more rumors and hypes to come out. Im siked for a new phone

      • I completely agree. I have been smartphone starved for months. & great smartphone quality starved for even longer. I can’t wait for the promise of something that may never come or I don’t even have word of it being confirmed. Spoke to T-Mobile Customer care yesterday & i’ll have mine tomorrow morning :D

      • JDANGLE

        @Fender…I feel you buddy….I’ve been riding a roller coaster trying to hold out on a new phone…..I’m going to order as soon as I can……..I’ll miss my 8900 :/ lol…

  • #SamsungFail

    Well to me it looks like a little kids phone! It has a puzzle for the lock screen for notifications! The on screen keyboard looks horrible! The screen looks alright but the whole UI just sucks!! #SamsungFail

    • tpavey

      Err… so root it and put vanilla 2.2 when it is available. Even without root you can disable much of TouchWiz.

  • Pedro

    Outright price will be 499.99

    It will have a 50 MIR from the price cards the Rep showed me

  • Mr.B

    This phone is really cool. I played with one earlier today and I can’t wait to get my hands on it tomorrow morning.

  • just some dude

    This thing looks real bloated, leave it to Samsung to “F” it up. And no flash, that’s a deal breaker. That is standard equipment now days.

    • Matlock

      played with the store demo yesterday at work and the camera is super nice it took better pics then my N1 that has a flash! and the focus for the camera can be done by touching the screen and it will focus in in the exact spot you want it to focus on, and also adjust the lighting for that specific spot! FLASH NOT NECESSARY!!!!

      • Anthony

        O RLY?

        So you turned of all the lights in the store and took a picture with the flash? Thanks for being so helpful!

      • tehandroid


        How often are you taking pictures in complete darkness? Why is everyone so bent out of shape about the damn flash. I have dual led flash on my HD2 and it sucks. I never use it.

      • Anthony

        You mean, at night, in a bar, or in other low light situations? As often, or more than often than in daylight.

        I’ve seen photos floating around online about the night capture mode, but that’s all BS until it’s officially tested and reviewed for a Vibrant.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      JustSomeDud… I thought you were banned. Still posting moronic comments I see. No LED flash is a deal breaker? For who? Certainly not you. You can’t afford a prepaid phone much less the Vibrant.

      Get the hell out of here. No one cares what you have to say.

      And take your meds.

      • David

        Its not the same guy…

  • zoid

    Upgrades are live! Just upgraded 2 of my phones online @ 164.99 each on a family plan. These were not full 22 month phones. One was a pre-order G1 from October 08.

  • Turtle6988

    My price is FREE!!!. Oh wait I work for T-Mobile. LMFAO!!


      SO are you counting down to log on tonight? LOL!

  • Tipsofme

    Phone has three keyboard choices, one being the HTC keyboard. You = fail. UI and screen work like a dream. Buying this now(selling two unlocked iPhones to break close to even) and using my two discounts in nov for the newest thing out.

  • NiiDiddy

    Is tomorrow here already???



    • jstew

      How much was it at Walmart with no upgrade?


        $499. Sold the nexus on monday so FREE for me!!! Guess I need to change my user name.

  • Scott

    Just tried to upgrade online, full retail shows $499.99. But once you click checkout there’s a “online discount” of -$60. So it’s coming out as $439.99!!

    Of course tax sucks. but that’s a great deal imo.

    • If you don’t mind me asking, what plan are you on? I’m on the EM+ and it’s showing $499.99 on the Review Your Order page.

  • jxl

    SAMsung vibrant available online and through customer care right now

  • coolMANDINGO

    it HAS the TV out feature like the evo. it uses the 3.5 mm jack. weird i know but it’s there. i mean it doesnt make up for the flash and the ffc but its a aight phone. the phone is light. it does feel a little cheap though. im not hating im just stating my opinion. but for the people looking a cool phone this might be it.

  • Macknifetx

    Just looked on the Tmo website, and the price is the same for me whether I pay full price or extend my contract, but the HD2 price does change when switching between extending my contract or no contract. So, I guess it will cost me 499 to get the phone.

  • Mr.B

    Why does it show that the phone is 450 dollars with a 2 year contract on t-mobiles website? That doesnt sound right.

    • phonegeek

      i seen the same thing

  • Ko092

    How did you order online? It still says coming soon

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      I logged in to My T-Mobile and just purchased it. Make sure you are logged into your account.

  • MAO

    Just chatted with a T-M rep and they couldn’t help with the current prices on “my-tmo.” The only information they have is that of the release date. I have the same price options^^^ when logging in.

  • Stillwaiting

    I really think that anyone who thinks this is a junk phone hasn’t had one in their hands.

    I just played with one in a store. I currently have the slide (returning it tomorrow) and this phone makes the slide look like a toy. I couldn’t believe how thin it was. Pictures don’t do it justice. Screen images are incredible, again web images don’t do it justice.

    Let me put it this way, this phone is like a supermodel, that people critique because of lips that are too full, too big here, to small there, but when she’s in your hands, you drool all over yourself and can’t believe you have her in your arms. I completely forgot about her flaws, no flash, no FFC, no led notification.

    I will be changing my handle after tomorrow.

    I agree what people are saying about the thing being lite. I imagine if you have a cover or something, this won’t be an issue.

  • jscarano

    I ordered mine just now 164.99 ! My full upgrade date isn’t until 8/18 but let me do it early!

  • taaars

    Just got two for 200 bucks off contract together..Im happy

  • Jchak

    How are some of you ordering the phone online? I went to the TMO website and it still says coming soon. Also, I am 21 months into my contract (8 days short of being 22 months) and on a family plan but the tmo store and corporate say they are not sure if we can get the full upgrade which does not make sense!

    • taaars

      You have to log into your account and got to phone upgrade

      • taaars

        GO TO..or call customer care..not all are aware that its ready for ordering..just ask them to look

    • jscarano

      I logged into my T-Mobile acct and clicked on upgrade my phone then I selected the Vibrant. I thought it was too good to be true but it wasn’t.

  • mailman13877

    This phone is nice as far as graphics and speed but i will take my chances on the EVO seeing you get much more for your money..I don’t need that MobiTV cuzz i’ve had slingbox since my WING an i use it a lot on my G1.Evo seems to be my next phone even more now after this video.I only Facebook so i don’t need all that social network stuff lol.The camera focus feature is nice but everything else sucks..No shutter..Lame

    • taaars

      just ignore him…

      • mailman13877

        your not ignoring me though cuzz your commenting based on my comment..This phone is good in all seriousness but not as good as the EVO or Droid X..LMFAO cuzz he made fun of the plastic you get for free after spending $1600 in estimate..EVO HERE I COME lol

      • monkeyboy311

        ignore who? ;)

      • JDANGLE

        Hi I’m Mailman13877.. Gosh…can’t wait to go home and dry hump my EVO tonight. Might even plug the ole’ Droid X if I have enough lube.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      Mailman…. go away. Do you think anyone gives a rat’s pitoot about why YOU are getting the Evo. Get a grip man.

      Besides, why are you on a T-Mobile fan site, in a thread discussing purchases of the Vibrant, posting about why you are getting the Evo.

      God there are some real dumbsheets on the Net.

    • 2FR35H


      Actually in regards performance The Samsung Vibrant and Galaxy S all beat the Evo 4G.

      First off Sprint charges extra for their “4G” of which isn’t actually 4G seeing as its not currently having the ability to download 100mbps and is slower than T-Mobile’s HSPA+ currently.Tmobile’s upgraded currently gets an average of 10-12mbps while evo may get between 6-10mbps currently.

      Only thing evo has over Vibrant is…

      8mp camera with flash camera, ffc and .3inches of which some consider .3 inches too big.

      Lets see now FFC okay it has that but who in the USA does? the iPhone users and other Evo users and the new E73 from Tmobile that not too many people know of. And iPhone users can only get ffc to work well over wifi and that is pointless but then fring happened which allowed it for 3G it looked hella crappy on the iPhone 4. So basically as I said yeah you have FFC but its pointless.

      The only functional thing it has over Vibrant is the 8mp Camera w/ Flash I can get over that as I am sure many others as well as I.

      Samsung Vibrant however has the more important things over the Evo

      Samsung 1ghz processor outperformed the same 1ghz snapdragon thats in the Evo

      Samsung had 55fps and Nexus One and Desire(Same processor as the Evo) had 22fps

      Samsung Vibrant comes with 16gb’s internal compared to evo’s 8gb internal. That means the Vibrant can store in total 48gb’s compared to evo’s 40gb’s total.

      Samsung’s SuperAmoled screen displays better picture and is much more efficient with battery life.

      Speaking of Battery life The Original Samsung Galaxy S which has all the same specs except for the FFC had 84hours of battery life with moderate usage while the evo only will last up to 20hours. Many Evo users report way less than 20hours though.

      Personally for me Touchwiz 3.0 over Sense UI.

      If you still think evo is better after I just broke it down for you then you are nothing but a fan boy.

  • M_Az

    Well i’m with t-mobile and I still see coming soon as well, let us hope this is not a problem for those of us in the company it was ridiculous how long employees had to wait for the HD2 it was not available after the first batch until four months later, and in phones years that is an old phone. I will try to order tonight, if I am successful then great, if not I will cancel.

  • Lemarg

    Does anyone know if this is going to have built in tethering like the galaxy s? Or was this feature removed

    • taaars

      I think tether is spot I believe is off for the moment,

  • Brandon

    I might upgrade! I’m checking online for my line that isn’t eligible for a full upgrade and it says I can buy it for $164.99, suggested retail price $499.99. Just log into my t-mobile.

    • Ruben

      Same Here!! ALRIGHT!!

    • jscarano

      I wonder if T-Mobile is letting customers upgrade early as long as their upgrade is whithin this year. I heard with the Iphone on AT&T they were letting people upgrade as long as they had upgrade eligibility in 2010. My 22 months isn’t until August 18th but I was able to upgrade to Vibrant for 164.99.

  • monkeyboy311

    WTF. Ive been off contract for 3 years and the price coming up for my on mytmobile is $449.99 with 2 year contract and $499.99 no contract.

    What gives??

    • taaars

      Something may be wrong with the site..someone got the unit off contract for 439.00..I got my two through customer care and mentioned it to her, she said they could still be working on the launch prices and goofed. the phone is supposed to be out tomorrow, but they flipped the switch early..give it till tomorrow to let them fix it

      • phonegeek

        ok that makes sense because i was about to say

  • Btd2379

    Just ordered mine should be here by 7/21 can’t wait so excited!!!!

  • Mr.B

    I’ve played with the EVO and the vibrant. It’s hard to compare the two phones. Both of them are really good. I’m glad they aren’t on the same network or I’d never be able to decide which one to buy.

  • Vicosphi

    Same here @ monkeyboy311
    I have been out of contract as well…I think its a temporary issue as they are probably still sorting ecommerce backend.

  • synapblink

    For the folks who don’t want to wait for the mail in rebate, you can purchase the phone on for $199 for the upgrade.

    Can’t wait to get this phone next Friday. Payday!

  • ckrucks

    ah mailman13877 what I like about you is how positive you are.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    OK, the reviews are rolling in, thanks for posting impressions.

    I too was able to finally get my hands on it today. Here’s my impressions.

    Appearance: When you see it in someone’s hands it is noticeable how small it looks. It looks great. All black, shiny and high tech looking.

    Weight: When it was handed to me, yes, the first thing you notice is how light it is. And I don’t mean light, I mean really, really light. You could put it in your shirt pocket and forget it’s there.

    Cheap Plastic: A word about others saying feels like cheap plastic. 1) most phones have cheap feeling plastic; 2) most phones do in fact utilize cheap plastic. Consider that you can replace a Slide battery cover for $10 shipped, that should tell you that yes, there’s cheap plastic on cell phones; 3) most phones since day one have used cheap plastic; and 4) so what.

    The reason people are commenting about the Vibrant’s cheap plastic feel is as I said before, there’s no heft to it. My Slide’s cover is cheap plastic yet overall the phone feels like the quality HTC handset that it is because there’s some weight to it. The SGS is so light, that’s why it feels cheap to people. We have all been brought up to associate weight with quality, the heavier a small electronic device is, the better it must be.

    But times have changed. One of the reasons the SGS is so light is that the SAMOLED display leaves out one of the layers included in TFT screens. Also, other components are getting better, but lighter. (I bought a 28″ 1080p HDTV that has all the extra connections and ports, speakers, and a base. It weighs 19 lbs! I have on a wall an NEC 42″ gas plasma monitor that I bought in 1999, back when such cost me $12,000. It weighs 104 lbs. With the wall mount it totals 116 lbs. I know all this because NEC said to be damn sure that the mounting bolts are affixed to structural beams. LOL).

    Once handling the SGS, pressing some buttons, looking at the display, etc. you forget real fast about your initial impression that the phone feels like a cheap handset.

    Form factor: Overall the phone has an excellent design. There’s a chin on that back of the phone so when typing or watching a movie there’s something to grasp. It’s subtle, but useful.

    The hardware switches on the front of the phone are cool. They are white lighted and look great. The rounded corners are especially good looking. I guess many phones are going to rounded corners (even my HD2).

    Extra Cover: In the Wirefly review it said the SGS comes with two covers, a dark one and a purplish one. The manager of the store said his Vibrant did not come with a second cover. But his may have been a limited demo unit.

    Display: Coincidentally I had Avatar on my HD2 so we were able to play that movie, in the same place on the tape, for a side by side comparison. It was a great test because the fluorescent lights provided a great backdrop to see how the SGS does in bright light situations.

    The Vibrant was… pardon the pun… vibrant! It pummeled my HD2 under the bright lights. I was able to look at Avatar scenes side by side and see that detail on the Vibrant was sharp, clear, and pronounced. In comparison, because of the bright lights and reflection on my HD2, the same scenes were dull, washed out and blurry.

    The Vibrant has a better resolution than the HD2 and it shows. The detail in the movie was sharp and finely defined. For example, in one scene there was a fire burning in the background. On the Vibrant the fire was a bright orange and the flames were finely detailed. On my HD2 the fire was a dull orange, and most significant, it was blurry. Not real blurry, but when compared to the SGS it was obvious which display was the better of the two.

    Display Size: Where the HD2 really beats the Vibrant is the screen size. The SGS has a 4″ diagonal screen, the HD2 4.3″ While you may not think that is much of a difference, remember that that is .3″ on each edge, which adds up, especially on screens this small.

    The difference in size is so prominent that if one of the main “features” you are looking for is max screen size (because you intend to watch a lot of movies, while on flights for example, or you want to make it easier to view Net pages) consider the HD2 over the SGS).

    Keep in mind, however, that the size difference between the two was noticeable only because the HD2’s display was next to the SGS. When I first saw the Vibrant, before my little shoot out, the Vibrant’s screen was plenty big.

    Bells and Whistles: The store manager had his SGS set up with animated wallpaper running (like it was on the Nexus One demo back in Jan-Feb). I am a fan of animated wallpaper and the SGS does not disappoint. Of course, there’s no function for the wallpaper except to wow us. And it did that. The one he had set was the rays of light crisscrossing the screen. It looked super cool.

    The TouchWiz graphics are very cool too. He got a phone call and the dialer showed up after he rejected the call. The phone interface has a nice design.

    Android: The OS worked quickly and without any lag. Flipping screens was smooth and responsive to touch commands.

    I was especially impressed that while the movie was playing a call came in and the interface popped up immediately and functioned smoothly.

    Conclusion: While my “test” was only 15 minutes I have enough experience with handsets to know that I like what I saw. It’s a fantastic device and when you couple that with the fact it’s $200 on a two year contract, well… it’s ridiculous that people are complaining about the FFC or LED flash.

    Get this handset, you will love it.

    Bonus Tip: There’s a lanyard hole on the SGS. I recommend you put a lanyard on it, IMMEDIATELY. While other phones might drop because of their heavy weight, the SGS feels like it will go flying out of your hand with a good gust of wind coupled with a little nudge or bump by someone.

    That brings to mind one benefit of the SGS’s light weight. If it falls to the ground it seems that it won’t suffer as much damage because there won’t be that much force on impact.

    • taaars

      Or get a hard case, I like the fact that its so thin and light, an actual case will give it just the right amount of weight it needs…but the feel of the phone is overall solid…

      • taaars

        to add, the Iphone 4 with its metal frame only took 2 drops to brick it, they tried to turn it back on..nada, at the third drop it cracked, and just to EVO this up, phone dog said that EVO use a cheap epson screen now, and they crack very easy..I think, the orginal screen is from samsung, but supply’s ran out, (same as they are doing with the incredible) in fact the new incredible’s no longer have even AMOLED screens, they have some hybrid TFT screens.

    • mailman13877

      Oh PLZ..with that cheap a## plastic that screen will certainly break if it drops on anything that’s not carpet

      • underdog378

        With that “cheap a## plastic”, the plastic cover is probably more likely to absorb the impact and crack/break (depending on how the phone lands) rather than the force of the impact transferring through a more solid material leaving the screen more vulnerable to receiving the full force of impact. This is why bicycle helmets are not made out of solid metal…

      • 2FR35H


        The Samsung Galaxy S surpassed a drop test on a CONCRETE ROAD in where it was dropped five times at normal length hand to phone length and did NOT crack or even so much scratch at all, no hard case or any additional accessory Also before they did that it survived dragging screws directly on the screen and did NOT scratch then they tested it in a plastic ziplock bag full of screws and shook it up vigorously and the screen came out with NO SCRATCHES in fact it wasn’t until a box cutter knife went across it that it did scratch. And in the dropping test did not crack the screen until it was held at 5ft 3inches.

        So please quit your doubts.

  • mailman13877

    Yea i just watched the EVO videos lol (i have come to luv annoying TMO fans with the EVO)..I will still check out the Virbrator 2morrow but im certain i ain’t getting it now.Imma pay my $50 and get my EVO for less than $200 when it’s in stock from being sold out..oh wait..i can get the White back Evo from Best Buy..oh and sure the earlier phones used cheap plastic but get with the program as they don’t anymore.The N1 is by far the best material of any top phones but the N1 isn’t the best anymore..EVOOOO lol

  • taaars

    I got to test this phone today at the store, and I must say, ANY video you see of this display does it 0 justice, it is, for lack of a better word, gorgeous. (its the first thing that pops out at you) Now, after that I dove a little deeper, (the store was slow at midday, so they let em play with it a good while) Ok..lets talk about the lag deal, there was 0 lag with standard widgets and live wallpaper, so I went ahead and started adding samsungs own live widgets 7 screens, I had widgets on all of them, fairly full, then I changed the simple weed live background to something a little more challenging, water..the nice thing is that it shows waves and when you swipe your finer across it it interacts, like your running your had through real water…as i went from screen to screen I noticed VERY little fact I wouldn’t call it lag, more of a “jump” it seems to be due to the live widgets updating, but I am not surprised, even a pc has some issues with live desktop and running stuff, and when 2.2 comes out I can see this being barely and issue. People say..well Iphone never lags when flipping screens, , well iphone doesn’t have live widgets or live wallpaper, and you really have to load this phone down to make even a little lag to start.

    Now, touchwiz 3.0,Before I was set to get adw launcher, or something else (which you can have and switch on the fly) in all honestly, touchwiz isn’t bad, so once I get it I may decided to keep it as is, but it is nice to know I can change the launcher to something else if I like.

    Web pages, load fast, My wife loaded her favorite Spanish page and it was up in a a few secs (think about 6)..pinch and zoom was smooth and reformatted the page fast.

    Camera, video does a great job, Regular pics very nice, blink detect works like a charm, so does smile, and you can tap anywhere on the screen to set focus area. (I did not get to test the night wasn’t dark)

    Although I may never play sims, I tested it out anyways..The 3d rendering was nice, game ran smooth..but not my cup of on to the next thing…

    The accelerometer, very fast…no waiting for the unit to respond to the change of direction.

    Sound, I just tested the ringer volume and the movie avatar, both fairly loud, some ringtones annoyingly loud. The vibrate also was strong.

    Overall build, Yes its plastic, I don’t feel it to be cheap at all, feels very solid and light, its real thin, so I know when I put a hard case on this puppy it will still be thinner than my MT3G.

    All in all, I am very impressed by this phone, even my wife was impressed, and she hates it when I decide to switch phones for us, and after playing with this I am certain now I will be getting this come tomorrow.

    • Green Robot

      Just a note on the lag issue. It won’t manifest itself in widgets or homescreen operations because of the nature of the problem. It only shows up as a lag when starting up applications. To test for it, you pretty much have continue opening more and more applications. As they load and get “backgrounded” or killed off by the Operating system, their current state data gets cached to slow memory. Then when you go back to reopen an application, the OS has to load the state information from the slow memory for the particular application causing a lag.
      Do not test for it with widgets, test for it by opening a bunch of applications, and then go back and try to reopen the same applications and look for the lag.
      Don’t take me wrong, I am heading to Radio Shack tomorrow morning to pick one up that I preordered but the lag is most likely still there. My plan is to live with it though until an official firmware update comes out to fix it by repartitioning the memory allocations. Unless of course, it gets way to annoying at which point root and the now famous “lag fix” will have to applied.

      • taaars

        very true, and I read a mod forum for the galaxy s were they did some line code to fix this issue, ill have to find that forum again. But from what I read the code work and vastly improved the phones performance, in fact one of the said they actually worked with samsung and was going to bring this to their attention, since they to were working on it.

  • just some dude

    Does anyone think T-mobile will cripple hot spot tethering in froyo?

    • Green Robot

      They will probably try…

      • 2FR35H

        But thats why we get it from the other international galaxy S and seeing as the root hack for international version works on USA I don’t doubt the same thing for the firmwares either.

  • pimpstrong

    the faster i go to sleep, the faster i’ll be in a tmobile store. HOLLA!

  • mailman13877

    The faster the 23rd the faster i get my EVO HOLLA..lmfao..this is to funny

    • underdog378

      I’ve used my friend’s EVO, it’s not a bad phone but is about to be overshadowed by the Droid X and Vibrant/Captivate/Epic/Fascinate in processing power and screen quality. Good luck.

  • cakesta

    After watching these videos, I’m actually considering getting this phone. I love htc but I don’t think I want to wait for all these rumors to turn into facts or fiction. The Vibrant is definitely a lot cooler than I assumed it would be.

  • andyandy

    TouchWiz actually looks really great

  • catsigh

    I’ve been out of contract since April. I might go the $199 price, but the price showing for me right now is $449 and there ain’t no way. I looked at wirefly but can’t make much sense out of what is there compared to my current plan. Looks like I’m getting a bit more generous contract price for my service currently from Tmobile and it’ll be $10 a month more to get what I have now and there’s an activation fee. Since I am moving from a G1, will there be an activation fee too?

    • Eli T

      Wait until tomorrow when it is officially released, I found that the line of my account that was out of contract also gave me a $450 price but my other two lines still under contract did not. I am not sure why but you can probably get some answers from 611 once it is officially released. I am moving from a G1 as well, you do have to pay the upgrade fee of $18 but not the activation fee as long as you have a current line with TMO.

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    To whoever posted that the phone was available online or through 611, thanks! On seeing your post I logged on to My T-Mobile and 10 minutes later the screen said “order complete.”

    And all my phone purchases arrive in two days, so that means I will get my Vibrant for the weekend. There’s nothing more fun than getting a new toy in time to play with it on a weekend.

    Correction: When order phones on a Wed they typically arrive on a Saturday. Because I have a P.O. box, the phone is shipped via USPS and my post office still has Saturday mail service. So that’s why I get T-Mobile phones on Saturdays.


      Still not available for employees :(
      Congrats to those that order!

  • Eli T

    The TMO website is pricing oddly at the moment. Two of the 5 lines on my plan get the Vibrant at $164.99 (way less than i expected) with the contract extension. Another of my lines which has been out of contract for two months is showing $449.99 with a two year extension. Not sure what is up with the pricing but my first two lines are not out of contract yet, I wonder if that has anything to do with it…

  • ItsMichaelNotMike

    Note: I am on Even More Plus. The phone pricing online was $500. Did not see any discount some are mentioning. But if there is one, I will call tomorrow and get it.

    Unlike when the HD2 went on sale, this time around T-Mobile fixed the system so that Even More Plus accounts could order the phone online.

    The order process was smooth. It said what the payments would be and how much was due as a down payment (it was about $70 that I had to put on a credit card).

    Bonus Tip: If you order online make sure to take screen captures of each page during the ordering process. If you don’t have a screen capture program, then make sure to “print screen” on each page.

    • justletyouknow

      The Even More Plus plans are not contract plans therefore you will not get discount, at all. [period]

      Also paying for the phone in bits and pieces will make you end up paying more, ’cause T-Mobile is starting to charge a lot more for tax =/

      • Relikk2

        Not True!! It will not cost you more and they cannot charge you anymore tax then your state allows. Furthermore T-mobile does not charge you tax over your 20 months payments but you pay your total phones tax up front plus your first month’s payment. Hence why “ItsMichaelNotMike” had to pay apx $70 up front (tax and first month phone payments). Then the remainder of the phone is paid over 19 months and added to your total cell phone bill. If at anytime you wish you can pay off the remaining months of your handheld.

        Minimum BOGO deal:
        Family Contract: 750 minutes, Unlim web and Text
        $139.99 a month
        24 months x $140 = $3360
        2 x $35 one time contract fee = $70

        Phone Cost:
        Vibrant $249.99 upfront. – $50 rebate = $199.99
        Get free Slide on BOGO

        Upfront Cost Contract
        $249.99 Not including Tax

        Monthly Payment Contact
        $140 Not including Tax (after first month $70 1 time fee)

        Total Cost Contract
        $3620 Not including tax.

        Non Contract family deal (buying phone out right)
        750 unlimited web and text $109.99 per month
        24 x $110= $2640 (No contract fee !!!)

        Phone Cost Non Contract
        Vibrant = $500 + Slide = $430
        = $930/ 20 = $46.50 (20 payments)

        Non Contact Monthly
        $110 + $46.50 = $156.50 not including tax for (20 months) last 4 is $110

        Up Front cost Non Contract
        $46.50 + tax for total cost of phone (est tax @10% = $46.50 + 93 = $139.50)

        Total cost Non Contract
        $3570 Not including Tax

        Non contact is cheaper in long run by $50 and you don’t always get the BOGO deal so its typically way cheaper.

  • mailman13877

    Damn i cant wait to wait till the 23rd an get my EVO..i may just pay that $50 now lol..Evoooooo..smh i promise this phone won’t win vs evo or droid x in a showdown video other than its graphics..I see the lag in all the videos an the evo has no lag in it’s videos

    • db


      I hate to inform you, but the EVO, Nexus, and Droid X all lost in benchmarks to the Samsung. Check it out at

      I had a chance to play with the phone today at a TMO store and the phone is the best Android phone I have ever seen. The graphics are just out of this world.

    • jw

      Actually the hummingbird chip is faster than the snapdragon. Can I slide my wee wee in your booty?

  • Chris C

    I actually had this phone for 3 days now and it doesn’t lag at all. It’s even faster than my nexus one. I did a test to see which phone was faster and the hummingbird processor is faster than my snapdragon. Also, the AMOLED screen is crazy detailed and it also has the live wallpaper as well. Every video plays well (mobitv/avatar/online). I love this phone just as much as my nexus one and it even has some features that are better than the nexus one.

  • PJ

    I’ve had personal hands on experience with this phone. It’s just totally awesome and there’s no way around it. To the person who said there was lag… its probably your computer that’s lagging the video because this phone runs as fast as Android can possibly run – and it’s smooooooth as silk.
    The only draw back is the lack of a flash but thats not a big deal for me. I’m getting this phone ASAP.

  • JustMike

    I like the $165 price, but $20 for “three day” shipping that will get here in a week? No thanks.. I’ll try my luck at the B&M store in the morning.

    Anyone have any idea what the upgrade price is in-store?

    • Eli T

      No, I went ahead and ordered it because I did not expect the $165 price. All the postings said it would be $250 w/ a $50 mir so I was surprised to see the low price. Rather than take chances I decided to order it and wait since it was so much cheaper.

    • Brandon

      $199 after $50 MIR

      • JustMike

        Thanks Eli & Brandon.. after much soul searching, I pushed the “place order” button. :)

        If the MyTouch Slide shows up as a $224 upgrade and the Vibrant at $165 is about the same price as the Cliq, it’s worth waiting an extra week to save a few hamiltons and the hassle of a rebate.

  • phaelenx

    I played with this phone tonight at work and its AMAZING! I’m getting mine tomorrow without a doubt. This phone makes my TP2 look like crap!

  • monkeyboy311

    Anyone know if its possible to get tmobile to waive the $35 activation fee from Amazon, Wirefly, and Radioshack?

    • Bigs12

      no, thats a 3rd party vendor you pay what they are offering…

    • KB

      Carrier’s dislike when you try to do that. If you’re going to go through a 3rd Party Vendor to order your phone and they have their own fees that you are initially agreeing to, WHY are you calling the carrier to waive them?!

    • Eli T

      If you are looking to waive an activation fee on it, buy it through Amazon right now. New lines of service get it for 149.99, no activation, and free 2 day shipping.

  • Carl

    So will it be available at stores tomorrow? Or just to order online?

  • tmoled

    Lmao at the planner! Droid X available! What’s up with that?

    • tmoled

      A Verizon employee rocking the vibrant? Sweet!

  • mjcl987

    Thats impossible monkey boy :(

  • hecg55

    hey question for you guys that are getn it. will you be putting ghost armor on your screen? im not sure if i want to or not. what are your thoughts?

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      What is Ghost Armor? Is that like Best Skins Ever, which is a plastic skin that adheres with water. If you remove it, it does not leave a residue.

      I have used Best Skins Ever since my Pearl days in 2006.

      Lately, however, I have not used it. On my HD2 the screen is glass and cannot be scratched that easily. So there’s no need for it. And the case is rubberized. BSE just does not work that well on rubberized cases.

      If the SGS has a plastic screen then I will get a BSE skin for the display. And will put BSE on the case too, because the skin provides a good gripping surface.

      On my Slide it is slicker than my dog getting a bath and trying to escape the tub. So I have to put BSE on that handset too.

      Here is BSE:

      • hecg55

        Yeah pretty much.. Ive never purchased it but i heard its crazy good from a friend who works at best buy. they install it at best buy for you. you should check them out or youtube them and some testimonial

  • Scott

    I’m bummed. I went into a T-mobile “Limited” store today and mentioned that I heard for existing loyal customers they could get the phone today. At first they were well um, and then started entering my info in the computer and said yes I could get it today. I was over excited but had that all crushed. Problem was, even though I have been with T-mobile for over 10 years and I have 5 lines on my family plan, only one of my lines was eligible for an upgrade. I was like cool, hook me up but then they said I would have to add the internet plan for that line. I was like no, I’m going to be the one using the phone in place of my MyT3G. They said they couldn’t do it and that it had to be tied to the line that was eligible for the upgrade. In the past when this has happened it didn’t matter what line I used for the upgrade as long as one of my 5 lines had one available. They were not willing to bend at all. Called TMO customer service and could not get them to pass me to the loyalty department what so ever but did get a supervisor who said he would go ahead and allow my line to get the upgrade even though I am only 9 months into contract on my line. He then asked I give the phone to the manager of the Limited store and the manager still said NO. Supervisor said if he could not send me the phone until it’s released (July 15th) but would call me tomorrow and take care of me. That’s all good except the 10 days out of the year that I get vacation is this coming weekend and week and I’m leaving to drive on a road trip and won’t be here to receive it and REALLY wanted to have the phone for my trip. I will make another attempt at another retail location tomorrow and hope I have better luck. Don’t want to pay $599 that “Limited” wanted to charge me outright knowing I have seen it offered at Wally World for as low as $149. If anyone has any ideas that would help me get it tomorrow that would be great. I am willing to spend the $199 upgrade fee.

    • Brandon

      Jesus christ… just upgrade on your own line and save the hassle. The system is set up for a reason… because if you use another line’s upgrade and then their phone craps the bed in a few months you’re gonna be crying then too. The data feature is a contractual obligation to the line you’re upgrading on… deal with it… and don’t threaten to cancel because every other carrier has had this policy for much longer than t-mobile

      • TmoRep

        I work at a TMObile corp. store. We would not give you the phone either.

    • SwizzleStix

      So many words written when all you had to say was:
      “Wah wah wah, I wanna cheat the system and they won’t let me, wah wah wah”.

      No one cares. Go to another carrier already. GO.

  • Steve

    As of 11:30 pm eastern the T-mobile website is still showing bogus prices for upgrades for the Vibrant, so I called CustomerCare and asked what the deal would be. The representative said that at the time I called (maybe 11:35 pm) the Vibrant hadn’t hit their system, so I was put on hold for a while so that the rep could figure out what was going on. She was then able to place an upgrade order for me (total charge was ~$300 with the $50 mail-in rebate and tax all included; the line was eligible for a full upgrade discount assuming a new 2-year run; so the handset itself was charged at ~$220).

    The rep said that the website prices for upgrades probably won’t be valid until the handset hits their system, and that probably won’t be happening until after midnight.

    • Steve

      Correction: the upgrade price I was charged for the Vibrant included the ~$20 for 3-day shipping, so I think the upgrade cost was $200, as I expected.

      Addendum: the rep claimed I was credited with the first order for the Vibrant in the system. I guess that doesn’t count the website orders…. still, I think that this is unlikely to be really the case. I’m glad to have made the order finally so that I can quit thinking about this.

      I’m glad T-mobile made this phone available and a few days earlier than planned; sure, there are some little presumed deficiencies, but for me the Vibrant is going to be certainly close enough to the state-of-the-art for the next year or so.

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        Steve… you made a good call. I have had many, many phones since 1990. Recently I have had the Pearl, Curve, G1, Touch Pro2, HD2 and soon the Vibrant (hoping to see it in my mailbox by Saturday).

        I bought the Vibrant because it is a top notch phone (compared to what I have owned and what’s coming out). When I walked into the local T-Mobile store today to see the SGS my hands-on confirmed what I knew, the Vibrant is state-of-the-art and in many respects better than most phones out there.

        While some people complain about the lack of a front facing camera or LED flash, their incessant whining and shouting drowns out what little remaining thinking processes they have. To be sure, the only failing going on is the “no flash/FFC = fail” whiners failing to think clearly.

        If they were thinking things through they would reach the same conclusion the smart shoppers have: the lack of an LED flash or FFC is greatly outweighed by what the Vibrant has.

        Two tit for tat examples:

        1. The SGS is the ONLY phone on the planet with a Super Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode display , what Samsung calls the Super AMOLED, or what I call “SAMOLED.”

        One thing that makes your new SGS special is that you won’t see SAMOLED displays on ANY competitor handsets. This is because the SAMOLED display is Samsung’s patented technology, meaning Samsung makes the displays.

        Samsung has said that it can barely keep up with demand for SAMOLED displays for the SGS. Because of short supply Samsung recently announced it will NOT sell SAMOLED displays to other phone manufacturers until 2012!

        IMHO that makes the SAMOLED display a pretty big deal and certainly more significant than the whiners supposed “missing” FFC and flash.

        2. Another BIG “feature” that whiners don’t talk about: The Vibrant has the fastest, best performing mobile phone GPU on the planet. Said another way, in terms the FFC/Flash whiners will understand: The Vibrant has the world’s fastest Android-based “graphics card.”

        Technically put: the Hummingbird A8 GPU can process 90 million triangles per second! (Trust me, that’s a lot in anyone’s book). While I don’t expect the whiners to know what that means, I assume they understand basic math and that the bigger a number such usually means something is better.

        Compare the Vibrant’s graphics processing power (90 million tri/sec) with the Nexus One (22 million tri/sec); Droid (7 million tri/sec); and the iPhone 3GS (22 million tri/sec.)

        Well that’s two positives that obliterate the whiners two negatives. So that’s enough for now. :)

        P.s. Have to run to the store before it closes so no time for grammar and spell check. Pardon in advance for errors.

  • PWI

    I actually own this device, I’ve had it since Monday 07/12/2010 I like it so far, my only concerns about this device are these 3 things

    1.)No Camera Flash
    2.)No LED indicator light for new messages or missed calls
    3.)Battery Drains fast on SIMs Game, and it takes Forever and a Day to Charge up in general.

    besides that this phone is SMOOTH!!! this phone is a Game Changer for sure!
    Guys when u buy it please buy a nice screen protector, and a carrying case… please do it that justice.

    • 2FR35H

      Try Night Mode works just as well.

  • NiiDiddy

    LMFAO…T-Mobile systems are messed up right now. Those who got the $165 pricing for the Vibrant be careful t-Mobile doesn’t come back and charge them more.

    Even their initial Vibrant introductory website changed price from $199 to $19999

    See for yourself:


    Just ordered for T-Mobile employees!! Woo hoo!!

  • Woo hoo! Same here…just ordered mine, due to arrive 7/21.

    Vibrant for free (incl. shipping). 5 yrs. TMO employee = free phones


      Dang mine said it has an estimated delivery date of 7/23. What part of the country are you in? I’m in Memphis

  • Ummmmm…. the extra backcover is so that the customers who need to do a warrenty exchange have an extra. I would say more the 50% of them send the back cover back, and of course it’s customer cares fault don’t you know.

    • J1

      More than 50% of your comment is a fail smh.. I see someone wasn’t paying attention in english 101.. but hey atleast you have the “super sexy” thing going for yourself I suppose

  • Applause

    There is not LED light indication? Thats a bummer…..

  • Ali

    Just placed my order for the vibrant got it for $243.00 through T-Mobile loyalty department with free express shipping.

    • monkeyboy311

      With contract?

  • Jimbo

    Lucky folks I been with tmo for 3years almost time for free phones

    • Bigs12

      it will not be free

      • TmoRep

        True, upgrade fee $18. lmao!!

  • sPaNkY

    No Froyo + no camera flash + no LED indicator = no sale.


    • Ashish

      Froyo is going to release to S.Korea market in August & it is coming to Tmo by end of August/beginning of September.
      Gingerbread is coming to Vibrant by Nov/Dec
      All this confirmed by Tmo Rep – get this phone otherwise you may regret it later

      • Daniel

        I agree with sPaNkY, No Froyo + no camera flash + no LED indicator AND no front facing camera = no sale.

        As for your comment: get this phone otherwise you may regret it later… Thats just garbage. Android phones are being released at such a fast rate now, that by the time one is released there is already a better one coming out. So to your comment, let me correct it in saying: get this phone and you will regret it later.

  • Applause

    I do not think I will be getting this phone due to the lack of an LED notification

  • Jdangle, I’m in the Seattle area and work at TMO headquarters. I was surprised to learn 7/21 for delivery, as previous phones have taken 10+ days to get here. I think our order fulfillment folks are getting faster :^)

  • p2

    I phoned t-mobile customer care yesterday. Phone price is $199 after $50 rebate with 2-year contract. Wirefly is selling at 149.99.

  • db

    Just got off the phone with customer care and talked them into giving me the phone for $199 since I have never had an upgrade in 7 years and I am not on contract. And he noted it in the account so that I could pick it up tomorrow at a TMO Store.

    • underdog378

      Can you really pick up your order in store if you order through customer care over the phone? I’ve never heard of this before…

      • db

        I told them that I spoke to a rep at the store and that he told me to tell them to make a notation on the account. That’s what I did and the Customer Care rep told me that I would have to go to a corporate TMO store. So, I was like cool and he made the notation.

      • ItsMichaelNotMike

        One time T-Mobile screwed up my order, back in 2006 on a Pearl order. They said they could arrange to have me pick it up at a local store. I said that it was OK, I could wait.

        But if a phone is really a hot seller, I wonder if a store would be willing to let go of one of their phones since that is one less phone they can sell to a walk in.

    • TmoRep

      Will not happen. I work there and we will not do it.

    • atljogger

      Did you sign a new 2-year contract for this deal? Isn’t the contract price $199 anyways – not sure where you saved money besides getting to pickup in store

      • db

        I saved money because I am not on a contract. So I didn’t have to pay full price. Picking it up from the store was just so I didn’t have to wait till next week.

  • 2FR35H

    And BAM! he LOVES Touchwiz 3.0

  • tmoled

    Never been able to pick up phone in store when ordering through cs, always told they were seperate.
    How are you supposed to know when u have a missed call or text? That’s BS! Also lack of track pad/ball sucks. Really simple,but important features to be missing.

  • john

    i played with one today and there’s no fm radio =[

    • tmoled

      They took that off too?

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      FM radio has not caught on and very few people use it. So manufacturers don’t mention it as a feature since that would be lame to trumpet it as a “look what we have” feature. Truth is radio is dying and stations are going belly up.

      Nevertheless the SGS does have it.

      Because YOU could not find it you shouldn’t be posting on the Net with an air of authority that it does not have one. That’s all T-Mobile needs is for people to rely on your misinformation to add fuel to the fire.

      • taaars

        I think you also need to have the wired headset plugged in to make it work…I could be wrong, but I believe it used it as an antena.

      • john

        ah well i hope im wrong cuz im really looking forward to having fm radio for work. i didnt find any radio app or anything when i was playing with it but i didnt have tons of time to explore around either, guess ill find out tonight when i bring mine home

  • Lucio

    Just ordered mine online for 203. it will arrive on 7/21/10

  • Tim

    Just used bing cashback to save $210 ($175 off phone, 12.25 off activation, $21 off plan, 2.10 off insurance)

    • mikef

      Have you gotten a confirmation email from bing? If so how long did it take before they sent the confirmation?

      Did you pay full price upfront or use the installment plan($79 upfront, then $25/month for 19 months)? If you used the installment plan did you get the full bing cashback in a confirmation email?

      Thanks, Mike

  • JoshL

    Really upset about the no LED notification…. :( I was about to order it until I saw that. I guess I’ll have to wait until October.

    • ItsMichaelNotMike

      LOL… what are you going to do if the phones in October don’t have LED notification, wait until March 2011? :)

      • taaars

        To be honest, I never really knew that this phone did not have led notification, just something I took for granted, at first when I read this I was sorta let down, then I thought about it, and read a few things, The LED notification is useful to me, but there are apps that do audible notifications, and in fact a developer took note that because the AMOLED screen uses 0 power for a black screen so they are trying to see if they can make an active screen that will be all black but display some dots as notifiers…dont know if it will happen, but some people are finding work around. But i am guessing this will be an adjustment for me, after a while I may not even miss it..hell the iphone never had it..and actually, I didn’t realize that until now as well..hehe

  • Reder

    It’s showing as $449 for me even though I’m eligible for full upgrade.

    What up with that? I want the $165 deal!

  • NiiDiddy

    WHEW!!! I feel better now. I called T-Mobile because I was not liking the fact that my upgrade online still showed the Vibrant at $449. My upgrade will be at $199 I was assured, so I decided that’s what I’d do when the stores open in the morning.

    Secondly, I asked about those getting their Vibrant online at T-Mobile for $165 – I was told that was probably a fluke, which means that anyone who paid that amount for the Vibrant might end paying the balance up to $199. I only asked because I was trying to get it for the $165 price too…

    • Hecg55

      Just ordered mine this morning got it for 99 bucks just as i told yall!

  • Barry

    No led? say it ain’t so

  • kemm

    I’m a senior rep @ tmobile and have had this phone for the last 2 days. I have the mts3g and the vibrant is awesome. Tmobile should be proud of this phone. Its everything its cracked up to be. I’m getting my wife and I the vibrant. For all the tmobile haters, you can always leave and go to a different company. You will just port ur number back to tmobile in two weeks……lol I see it all the time…..

  • soon2TMO

    i dont think i can sleep…


    • Ashish

      me too – the store is opening only at 11:00 a.m. :-(

  • taaars

    Damn..I hope makes cases for this phone…..

    • AK47

      I planning on getting a case from Zenus, one of the leather versions I haven’t decided on which color to get yet.

  • Trill

    Flash has gotten better on camera phones so in 2010 its a big deal for many and the flash on the Nexus is amazing and doesn’t wash out any photos not even the picture of my eye I took in the dark. I’ve had the G1 and I just got my Nexus a while ago so while I was considering buying the phone I must change my mind cause I’m aware of a few surprises T-Mobile has planned for this years.

    P.S. No phone right now will come shipped with froyo so do some research also its not to long ago been released therefore it will take some time for manufacturers to update.

    • taaars

      And that is your given right as a free consumer..if flash is what you need, then you have options, doesn’t make this phone a bad device, just not one for you. I for one, would have liked a flash, but it was never a need, in fact I had a phone once with flash, then I got MT3G and never really missed it, My MAIN thing is iternal memory and screen, this phone fits those two bills for me. FFC, ehh..I may never be into it, I know some people feel they arr, and that may be true, for some, but I bet the vast majority of these people that are up in arms about the FFC only 10% would actually use it in a normal basis.

      • Trill

        Exactly! Its all personal preference in the end but just voicing my opinion but lets just say I have some insider info and you may kick yourself around September it you get this phone but if you have a G1 or any other first Gen aneroid device I completely understand also guys a task killer with 2.2 is no longer needed and mainly it was poor hardware and memory management early in android but 2.1 and higher with any current device and your Florence unless you want to just see what’s running and keep up with background task but it uses 0% CPU so it does nothing anyway just saves the state.

      • taaars

        If its the HTC with a keyboard, I pass, I really dont want a slide out keyboard device, adds bulk and a moving part that can break.

  • iunlock

    Honolulu, Hawaii here waiting until morning to pick up the Vibrant! Whoohooooo

    LED and front facing camera isn’t a big deal to me. For those who are crying, have you even seen the night mode on the camera?! It’s just as good. As for the front facing camera, I’m sure Samsung has something up their sleeves for once HSDPA+ is fully launched everywhere to support video chat.

    That’s the whole excitement about technology. They probably already have all the things people are crying about..LED, FFC etc… just wait and be patient. If we had it all now with all the bells and whistles, what is there to look forward to?

    For what it’s worth, just get the Vibrant! There is no better Android phone out. The A8 Cortex CPU on the Vibrant? IS CRAZY FAST! THE FASTEST.

  • Triston

    So nobody is concerned about samsung’s recent PR debacle of denying an android update to B2 owners?

    As pretty as this phone is (screen, processor, etc.), I can’t justify an upgrade from my N1. While there are some hardware inferiorities, I firmly believe that operating Google’s proprietary handset is the best way to ensure that I receive the best/latest iterations of Android for some time to come.

    I’m still surprised that people complain about the lack of T-Mo’s high-end handset offerings (prior to this particular release), and completely disregarded the Nexus One. Considering the direct line to google with regard to system updates, I consider it to be the best android handset on the market. I don’t care to wait for HTC to reconfigure sense UI, or verizon, att, tmo to revamp their unique particularities so that I can run the best software.

    Vibrant aside, the N1 is a fantastic handset for those of you who still remember that Samsung is willing to shaft its customers blatantly when it comes to software upgrades :)

    • Trill

      Behold 2 in sales didn’t do that well but was okay and I think they just let support for it die and in all honesty I think it was the worst Android phone and the cube UI wasmore of a gimmick thank a selling point. Imagine the phone being a G1 just with extra memory but throw in Samsung and some mistakes and bad PR and boom you have where we are today.

  • Jim888

    Hmm no led notification?…I wonder if one of the 4 keys could be set up for that after rooting?

  • Tarzanman

    The G1 didn’t have any LED notification at first either. That came a few months later in one of the updates.

    For all the people who are bashing the “Vibrant haters”, remember you that AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint are all getting better versions of this phone. Well, maybe not AT&T…because they are a bunch of Google haters.

    So, as much as you like it on T-mobile…. Sprint/Verizon users will be loving theirs even more (especially Sprint with the Wimax, LED flash and 2nd camera).

    • iunlock

      You forgot to mention that T-Mobile’s HSPDA+ network that will stomp the other three carriers. The Sprint Epic (their version of the Galaxy S) will be the best version no doubt, but who wants to be on a crappy CDMA network? AT&T just sucks period and Verizon + Bing? Yeaaaa riggghhht.

      I’m sure Samsung already has a GSM front facing camera with LED and all that jazz ready to go, it’s just that they are waiting for TM to release the HSDPA+ in all cities to support the ffc etc…

      BTW as for the no flash…have you even seen the night mode? it’s just as good LOL…really, if you’re going to be taking pictures at night and expect professional grade SHTUFF, just use a point and shoot for crying out loud.

      It’s funny how all these haters complain about some of the least important things on a phone for what it’s intended for. This phone is used to talk, text, browse, etc…not take 100000000 megapixel professional quality pictures. Give me a break.

      Stop complaining about the little things and appreciate the phone for what it is. Fastest CPU period. (iPhone4 uses the same CPU made by SAMSUNG!) BEST display PERIOD. on ANDROID!

      • iunlock

        Forgot to mention the built in 16GB memory on the Vibrant vs the miniature 1-2GB on the sprint or verizon.

  • Barry

    Verizon has a flash that’s it, and they removed google and installed bing and the primary search. I don’t see that as a plus. Sprint’s is the only plus I see that, phone will be nice.

    I’ve realized that led notifications isn’t that serious since I use handcent and always use reminders for text messages and I don’t talk on the phone that much so the missed call thing definitely isn’t an issue so the led thing is as serious I previously thought.

  • Barry

    XDA is already talking about modding the vibrant to use the back button as a led notification.

  • mp

    I got MINE!! this is the phone I have been waiting for, since 1998. Since I had the first Compaq ipaq and use to teether it to my phone. this is great marriage of the ipod/iphone creativity with the android ingenuity! I LOVE IT!!

    • mp

      Oh and believe the hype!! Samsung did there thing with Touchwiz!! it is da TRUTH!!

    • db

      I totally agree with you. Got mine this morning. This phone is really really good and fast with no lagging. The screen is just crazy good.

  • eyezick

    Can the movie be uninstalled?

    • swehes

      The movie is on a 2GB micro SD card so you can do whatever you want with it.

  • p.h

    I never have android before, but can we use android’s full function without the data plan? Can we use like Window 6.5 just with wifi? No Data Plan.

  • dsbh0r

    mobile users are some of the most hateful arrogant assholes on the planet

    • db

      Uhhhh No. That would be XBOX Halo 3 Players online.

  • dean

    TEXT FLOW works but only if you use the plus and minus buttons and not the “pinch to zoom” which i guess is ok …..

  • Meh! This phone isn’t anything special. Why wouldn’t they put a flash on it? Also, with the Droid X sporting an 8mp camera, I don’t think this is anything to get excited about. With only a 5mp cam, no LED indicator, no flash and no froyo, there is no way I would even want it. I like my N1 but I’m thinking about switching to Verizon to get the Droid X and 3G coverage in my area, since we only have edge here. :-c

    • Dex

      Eh, you do know that megapixels have little to do with how good the pictures come out, right? All it tells you is how much data the subsystem that’s connected to the camera sensor will return…not how good the camera sensor is.

      Cell phone flashes are worthless, IMO, so that’s a non-issue to me. Froyo is coming out for these phones at the end of the summer. I’ll trade the LED indicator for the most impressive display currently on the market. Now, I’m in no way saying this is the best phone around, but for people like me that have a reason to stick with T-Mobile (I get unlimited 3G data practically for free thru them) it is something to get excited about. Finally an up-to-date high-end Android phone for T-Mobile users…

      • DagNastyCo.

        How’d you pull ‘practically free unlimited 3G?’ I’ve been with T-Mo for almost 9 years now….should I try and pull some loyalty schtick?

  • Barry

    Yo they addressed the lack of flash with night mode. and name one device that’s not rooted with an official 2.2 rom not named nexus one…

  • Izzy

    I jus got the vibrant…the phone is badd ass..i used my 50$ gift card from the shack towards the phone,and they said theyll send me another gift card in the mail.i saved mad money today…it was worth it!!

  • cronin

    Is there anyway I can upgrade on my wife’s account and use the phone on my account?

    • Eli T

      There is an earlier posting in this thread that tried to do that. Apparently TMO now links the phone to the line, if you do not have a data plan on the line you are upgrading you must add it. I believe you can still stick any sim card in it to make it go but if your wife doesn’t have a data plan then you will have to add one to upgrade. That is what I have heard anyway, look back in thread about this.

    • Funkeytaste

      Yes you can, I just did it

  • Tophat

    New Castle and all you camera lovers get over it IT HAS NO FLASH or FFC… GO BUY A CAMERA!!!!!!Judge the devise for what it is not what you dream it is… I saw the Phone today it is hot hot hot!!!!!!The Screen is beautiful and the phone is stylish ..Great job Samsung. Cronin… The phone does not know who’s SIM is in it you will just have to have a data plan….

    • tmoled

      Ffc would be cool for video chat, so buying a camera wouldn’t fix that.

  • Rekikk2

    This phone is sick. I’m responding to you on my phone using 3g and listoning to pandorra while swyping this message. No lag at all.

  • wantspeedindc

    Happy HD2 owner, but this phone is very nice. Such a nice screen…HD2 is now 2nd place in that department.

  • tmoled

    Played with it today. Screen is great, pretty responsive. Could not play with mobitv or kindle, did not trying playing music through headphones, I know the mt3g is super quiet, really annoying! Expect the vibrant to be a lot better. Anyone try the headphones yet? No FM radio! Little tired of the stripping down! The galaxy S was perfect for me, wish they didn’t rob it of so many cool things. Saw pics of night mode vs pics on mts w flash and it blew the flash away, so definitely can do without flash. No led sucks also. It was amazingly light! My mt3g felt like a brick in comparison, also super thin. Cool phone, but a near miss due to tmobile messing with it. This was the perfect phone, wish they left it alone, droid x, evo and iphone are missing stuff that the galaxy s delievers, it blows both of them out of the water, but tmobile and actually all the american carriers took a giant dump on it!

    • Awsnap

      I guess you’d like to spend $600 or more for devices, then.

      Tmo didn’t strip anything out, they took a base design and used what they wanted and kept it in a nice budget.

      It’s getting old, quickly, reading about how carriers strip phones down.

      You guys know devices and services generally run more expensive overseas where you see these ‘amazing’ devices.

      The Dell streak will be available here for $500, unlocked…

      The uk? $779.

  • Bobert

    WOW CNET gives this a YAAAAWN “average”.
    LOL it’s almost fun watching TMO fail miserably!”

    • ak47

      I must have the read review wrong because 4 out of 5 stars means excellent on cnet .

  • Matt


  • Already been engaged in cellular communications as an RF engineer since 1982 when I worked for Motorola. Had Blackberrys for the last eight years or so, but just pre ordered a Samsung Vibrant from Tmobile. Want some new features as well as a brand new Operating system to play with. I’m dissatisfied that Tmobile has switched away from the wi-fi compatability hotspot feature in the Samsung Vibrant, but I am certain someone will certainly figure out exactly how to root it and add the feature back again in. I am now transporting a wifi only iPad and want to wirelessly tether it to the mobile phone. Looking forward to obtaining my new phone!

  • UzukiC

    One could always hope the Vibrant gets Froyo and as such wifi tethering, but Samsung really hasn’t set the best track record there.

    It’s a hard choice between this and the MT3GS, both are great phones for what they do. My brand support directs me to HTC, but the reviews of the Vibrant are tempting me badly to grab it.

  • Funkeytaste

    Ive had this phone for a few days now and absolutley love it, I do wish it had Video Chat, but the beautiful screen, and speed is a huge plus in my book, my friend has the Evo which I wanted to switch carriers just to get it until I found the Vibrant…wow, glad I stayed with Tmobile! Evo screen doesnt even compare to Vibrant!

  • Eric

    Maybe its just me, but whats with all this garbage and crap on a phone. Come on people do want a functional phone or a toy. Grow up people.

  • Eric

    For those people that sign up with T-Mobile or any other cell provider before checking out their coverage area you deserve to be stuck with a phone that you are unhappy with. I happen to be in a market where the T-Mobile coverage is excellent and with HSPA+ I get 5mbs+ at home and my N1 makes a great hotspot for up to 5 devices. I don’t have to worry about my data useage like some of my friends that are on AT&T and Verizon where if you hold your phone wrong you get charged extra for it. I will be the first to admit that Verizon has excellent coverage (The Best), but I am not willing to pay a few hundred dollars for the 5GB+ that I use every month. As far as AT&T is concerned they are the worst provider out there for both cell and home/business lines. I am in the process of dropping AT&T for my business right now because they can’t seem to be able to do anything right. They even forgot to put us in the Real Yellow Pages.

    And yes, I do realize that we are supposed to be commenting on the Vibrant and I picked mine up on launch day. I had an Evo and took it back on day 30. Sprints coverage map showed me in the middle of their strongest 4G coverage and when I got home that night I could not even pick up a weak 4G signal. Two weeks after I bought it T-Mobile turned on HSPA+ in my area so it made my decision to return the Evo very easy. The best 4G speed I got out of the Evo with an excellent signal was 3.8mbs which doesn’t even compare to HSPA+.

    The screen, speed and smoothness of the Vibrant kills the Evo especially with gaming. As someone else mentioned, the flash on phones are a joke and with the night mode on the Vibrant you get a better picture than with a flash anyway unless of course you are trying to shoot in complete darkness. At some point a FFC might be nice, but at this point I don’t need one.

    I have been a hard core HTC guy for a couple of years and after owning a
    Behold II I didn’t think I would ever buy another Samsung phone, but the quality of the Vibrant is as good or better than any HTC I have owned and I don’t feel like I am carrying around a brick in my pocket like I did with the Evo. When the Vibrant gets 2.2 my N1 will probably be retired for good.

    • B.

      Sing it brotha!

  • I just love this phone, it´s so amazing!

  • DD_838

    The Samsung Vibrant is a mediocre phone on a network that offers…. mediocre phones.

  • Alex

    I thought about purchasing the Vibrant and keeping my Nexus One for a spare, but I quickly realized how foolish that was.

    The Vibrant, while it has a beautiful screen, lacks anything special. The touchwiz interface, though improved over their last offering, leaves much to be desired. Their “Night Mode,” is nothing more than cranking up the ISO, a true LED dual flash or even a single flash, would have made all the difference.

    Having said all of this, had Samsung released this phone with stock Android and LED flash, I would have picked it up.

    Perhaps Samsung should have gone the Google route and released an unlocked device who’s updates were not hampered by carrier-specific applications a-la the nexus one.

    Even though new phones are coming out with better specs than the Nexus One, I still believe the Nexus One to be the best Android device right now, until Google releases its successor (Yes I know they said they wouldn’t but they also said they would never release a phone(and yes I know HTC makes it not Google)).

    Back to the Vibrant. For the average person out there who doesn’t care about receiving the true Android experience, get this phone. The screen is gorgeous and big, and the phone is very functional.

    HOWEVER. If you want a true Android experience that will always have the latest updates first, and won’t be tied down by carrier apps, get yourself a nexus one.

    Note: The only way to get a nexus one is to search eBay, or pay 25 dollars to become a developer and then purchase the phone from Google for 529.00. The phone being sold to Google is T-mobile 3g band.

  • Michael Petrillo

    I have had in the last 2 months:

    1 iPhone
    1 HTC HD2
    1 Samsung Vibrant

    iPhone Speed and reliability is the best of the 3. Main issue with iPhone is AT&T! Nothing more needs to be said…

    HD2 is the fastest loading phone of the 3. Lacks apps but the apps it does have work fantastic. Exchange server is the best. Microsoft not supporting the phone with WM7 is why I dumped the phone. Microsoft making you buy new hardware everytime they make a software change is getting old.

    Samsing Vibrant – Main complaint is that it LOCKS UP constantly. I have to remove the battery at least twice a day! Lots of apps available but most of them are crap and do not work properly. The sensors in the vibrant are in no way accurate. I like the phone and am hoping Froyo fixes a lot of the issues with 2.1! Last issue is the rooted BS! The apps should work either way! I like the wireless tether I had with the HD2 unless rooted with this phone UR screwed.

  • Krzysiek

    Could be very good phone phone but broken GPS, missing Froyo in 2010, and lack of support from Samsung make this phone a complete failure.
    JI6 update, released to fix GPS – another failure.
    GPS Restore by Samsung blaming consumers for broken GPS while not fixing anything and broken by itself – yet another failure.
    Missing, but promised by the end of 2010, Froyo update – lies and failure again.

  • For me, iPhone is the best!