T-Mobile Posts Samsung Vibrant Mini FAQ/Official Images

For the last few days the Samsung Vibrant has been the worst kept secrets in the T-Mobile world.  In light of all the hoopla these past few days, T-Mobile has posted a mini FAQ on their forums which sheds a little light on the phones and raises one major concern. The third bullet point highlights that the Vibrant is not going to be an HSPA+ device, ummm why not? Was this a Samsung decision or a T-Mobile one? Considering Samsung’s Behold 2 history, we’ll just a finger in their direction until we get more details. Seriously though, that’s a likely deal killer for many as T-Mobile hypes up their HSPA+ network and a future premiere device won’t be able to readily take advantage of it. Yes, we know that having the network itself helps the phone’s data speeds, but not to be able to take advantage of the peak speeds offered across the network brings a real sad face. Either way, check the details below and see if anything else interests you!

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Hardware

  • The Vibrant offers a 1GHz Samsung Hummingbird processor which is optimized for superior media viewing and game play.
  • The Vibrant has a 4.0-inch Super AMOLED touch screen display that gives you a bright, vivid viewing experience.
  • The Vibrant benefits from enhanced speeds with T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network, but it’s not an HSPA+ device.
  • The Vibrant is one of the slimmest smartphones on the market. The dimensions are 4.82” x 2.54” x 0.39”; weighs 4.16 oz.
  • The Vibrant’s 5 MP camera is equipped with digital zoom and autofocus. Comes with an HD video recorder too!

Entertainment/Apps

  • The Vibrant is ideal for consumers who are entertainment enthusiasts and want to combine entertainment and communication in one device. The Vibrant offers a ton of entertainment options. We’ll have more to share on this front when the countdown reaches zero.

Software/OS

  • The Samsung Vibrant is powered by Android 2.1 software.
  • The Vibrant supports personal and corp. e-mail, including MS Exchange, Gmail and most other POP3 and IMAP e-mail services.

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  • joel

    Just so everyone knows, just because it’s not listed in the specs doesn’t mean there’s no front-facing camera. I mean, you know the Nokia Mode that just came out has a front-facing camera, right? And guess what- it says NOWHERE in the specs that it does. But it’s there. T-Mobile obviously doesn’t see it as an important enough feature to even mention, so wait for the reviews until you start cutting your wrists over this ;)

    • J-Hop2o6

      it really has a FFC? video/spec sheet proof anywhere?

  • TMOprophet

    wow this is a funny as crap post with funnier comments flying back and forth, I think everyone is just mad that the SGS isnt the superphone they were hoping it would be, well I sorry but samsung kinda sucks…good luck getting anything beyond froyo…HTC for me in the future. This SGS will be an epic fail..in one way or another. Just give it time..you will see..

    • Patrick

      you are absolutely right. T-mobile is really good at coming out with look alike phones and “kinda like that other phone” phones but it will be an EPIC fail. I like samsung, but they just dont have what it takes. Sprint= htc evo, verizon= htc incredible, Tmobile= my touch slide…. wtf. no. give us android 2.1 in the HD2 shell you idiots! oh but wait! the samsung Galaxy S!…..no.. just no…

      • Davidohio

        I think you should go to verizon and get the incredible, or sprint for the evo. yeah.

    • david

      I think your right. It is looking to be kind of a let down after all the buzz that has been going on about this phone. The only thing that is buging me is a 5 meg pix camera. What’s up with that?

  • Xfoo

    My 2 cents:
    5MP is totally fine for good pictures as long as the pixels are sensitive enough to allow proper light in. I’ve seen 8MP shots look like crap because the camera pixels are too small and not sensitive. It’s not about pixel count. It’s the technology that matters.
    I think the lack of a flash is a mistake. I have yet to see a good phone camera shot in low-light situations. Let’s face it. Most of us bust out the camera to take pics at night; at a party, after dinner, at the club, in front of the bar. It kills me when there’s no flash.
    The FFC was probably left out because the data network cant handle the potential flooding. That’s why the iPhone’s FFC is primarily reserved for wi-fi. Apple also has FaceTime to give video calling functionality. TMO doesn’t have the network, customer base, or the api to compliment FFC use. TMO is only the 4th largest US carrier; a lot smaller than Sprint, ATT, and Verizon by comparison. 2-way video calling is just starting out. Virtually no one uses that kind of communication yet. No reason (or funds) to back a technology that is not in high demand. It will happen, just not now and not with the Vibrant. Besides, if I ever look to witness anyone in a video call while they’re driving, I will personally take a dump on their head.

    • mpv

      this is a good post…

      • Scritz McGritz

        Agreed!

  • TMOsucks

    Really, who cares about having a FFC? I’m sick of seeing all the crappy self shots on Facebook and MySpace anyways.

  • RICO

    This freaking sucks that T-Mo is leaving out 2 VERY important features: one the front facing cam and second not going to be an HSPA+ device. I think T-mo is going to regret this decision and seeing from what Samsung did to the Behold 2, I don’t think I want a Samsung phone anymore. I think this will push customers away as well.

    • RICO

      Tmo I hope you’re reading your customers complaints on this: Please give us an super HTC phone or Motorolla Droid with all the features initially on the Galaxy S. We trust them because they give us updates.

      • Patrick

        dude screw motorola. they suck, verizon can have the stupid droid. HTC is where its at. motorola is the most unreliable phone ever

      • 2FR35H

        @Patrick

        The MOtorola RAZR would like to hav a word with you and so would the Moto Zine ZN5 and the Moto Cliq and just about every other motorola device out there. Where ever the hell you heard that motorola is unreliable is false.

  • taaars

    Damn..this FFC thing has a bunch of panties in a knot here. I see why most people are pissed, Iphone 4 has it…soooo..now everyone wants one. But what everyone here fails to see is how much they would actually use it. I for one think it would be a “neat” feature, but in the end I use a Bluetooth headset about 98% of the time with the phone in my holster as I do other things. Next, FFC on Iphone ONLY works via WIFI, third..the other person has to have it! in reality the ffc would be used by most people MAYBE 5% of the time, and even then it would be just for fun..not much else.

    and btw…Iphone 4 isnt faster than HSPA+..granted, it would have been nice to have it and toss it in apples face, but TMO never promised it, and it will still be plenty fast without it, as fast or even faster than the Iphone 4.

    • vinny

      You will benefit big time with the HSPA speeds with this phone. You will be able to download speeds up to about 7000, not too shabby, about 7 times or more faster then the I-Phone on AT&T’s network. Then of course there is all those dropped calls on AT&T’s allready overcrowded network, can you imagine this year with all the extra traffic. It is so bad the I-PHone made their own app for calling in dropped calls and lost signals. Great ha, I will stick with the best and fastest Network anywhere, T-MOBILE.

      • SEFan

        Interesting, and I hope you’re right. But a couple counterpoints must be made..

        1. The reason AT&T’s network gets so many complaints is that they have so many freakin’ smartphone customers, which they have because they brought at least one great phone. T-Mo’s network is party fast and reliable because they aren’t building the customer base to challenge the network.

        2. T-Mobile has been shouting about how their HSPA+ network, as it rolled out, was as fast or faster than so-called 4G in Sprint’s hands. So now they bring a flagship device, the superphone for the company, and it can’t do HSPA+?! What does that say to someone who might want to migrate over from, say, the iPhone and AT&T or the Droid on Verizon? To me it says the management has no interest in serious smartphone users, or said management are really dense about what smartphone users want.

        A fast, reliable network and great customer service are of limited use if you don’t bring the handsets to access it. That’s been T-Mobile’s problem all along.

  • raymond

    wow you guys are die hard t mobile takes away features and suddenly they dont matter u guys should consider the iphone it be perfect for u

  • raymond

    t mobile hyped up a phone they downgraded htc hurrry and make that phone -_-

    • watbetch

      They “take away” (more like Samsung’s capacitive button front glass panel for the North American Galaxy S is lacking the hole for the camera – check out the AT&T Captivate) a front facing camera and the damn sky is falling. It’s sickening.

    • NiiDiddy

      tmobile did not hype up the phone, bro. we all just took rumors and speculation to heart through the internet. not saying anything wrong here; i am simply stating…

      • Dale Murphy

        true.

  • Might switch to TMob

    Just saw that the new Vibrant will not support hspa+ – Why is TMobile promoting their upcoming coverage maps when as I understand it they do not have any devices that support hspa+?

    • mr. nice guy

      first the vibrant is supported in a way u will still get faster speeds than regular 3g but wont have the full potential second look at the coverage map again tmobile want more coverage first before they release a fully supported phone think about if they released that sidekick twist/vision phone and told everybody it was fully supported those not yet having coverage would do more bitching than u r rite now

      • David Thomas

        Exactly. Don’t believe him? Check out all the sheep on Sprint that bought an Evo 4G, pay an extra $10/month, yet have no 4G coverage in their area.

        T-Mobile is expanding in smart ways. It may not make them a huge contender (yet), but as a current customer, I’d rather see the network become available for the majority then release a capable phone, than to have 10 major markets covered and hype up a phone that most of the consumers won’t be able to take full advantage of.

    • tortionist

      They have a few phones that support HSPA, but they’re not HSPA phones, meaning they won’t go beyond 7MBPS or there abouts. They’ll run up to that speed. The MyTouch Slide supports it, as does the SGS, HD2, and several others, so your info is off. Besides T-mobile is supposed to be coming out with an HSPA phone at the end of the year that will support higher speeds.

  • Davidohio

    Lol my nokia nuron is hspa+ and I want android but not unless it is hspa+

  • mailman1387

    @ guy who used a Mustang and a Porsche comparison
    That was so dumb cause Mustang an Porsche are own by 2 diff manufacturers.Its more like another state sells a Mustang and then in NYC where I’m at they sell the same Mustang for $1K and take away its standard GPS and Multi disc Audio system.Of course we can do without them but its a deal breaker cuzz the original had both for less an the way humans work wether its right or wrong,We wanna brag bout the best even if we won’t use it often.
    @all the TMO lovers
    HSPA+ is there big AD but like they did with 3G,they didn’t release any phones for it for months although they had capable phones which cost them thousands of customer an that’s a fact.Same again.It seems that TMO has fooled you guys for so many years you’ll settle but I bet if u had the original SGS and then they released a better phone in other ways but took out the FFC an Flash you wouldn’t get it an would be pissed cuzz now you’ve tasted Greatness with the SGS.like I said,when ur a settler u’ll make excuses bout I can live without this an the NEXT phone will show u all but since 2001 only the G1 showed any1 an since that they sunk to the point that when it comes to getting an Android phone customers would rather pay $20 per month on another company to get a better Android phone with better service btw.With the G1 it was i’d rather pay $20 and settle for the lesser service but have the only android out.Now with all the Androids it’s costing them bigtime.Also you TMO lovers can bash us cuzz we won’t put up with it anymore but guess what.Your opinions won’t help em keep customers when people use their brains and compare Android phones/companies b4 they spend their money but our complaints are hurting them and u lovers cuzz the more TMO losses us to another company the sooner those rumors bout them possibly vanishing from the US in 2011 will come true an then you loving loyal SETTLERS will have to turn to 1 of the companies your in such denials about.TMO was in 4th place a month ago behing Sprint but close enuff to pass em by year end based on a survey but I bet since the EVO dropped TMO won’t get close to passing em b4 next summer cuzz the Vibrant ain’t gonna touch the EVO seeing its not on the EVO’s level.The SGS was but not the Vibrant.Oh and like all new things there’s always defects like the evo screen issue or the iphone 4 call issue..well Sammy is releasing a new UI an has already failed with their Behold 2 and also promised 2.0 and now is saying the phone can’t take it so they can’t give it.Sammy plus lame TMO will be a guaranteed FAIL an watch you lovers settle an get stuck in another contract.That dual core is all they can afford so watch them leave out FFC or flash cuzz dual core plus bulky qwerty(makes no sense btw) and HDMI is gonna cost em big time so if you wanna wait and settle to a Holiday Fail then go ahead but not me.

    • Rilesman

      @mailman1387 Don’t be a hater :) I was specifically talking about HSPA+ so the analogy sticks…but your tweak is a very good analogy for the FFC and Flash. So just to make your point…let’s change Porsche (surprised no one called me out for spelling it wrong) to a Ford GT. Now….the the analogy is sound.

    • David Thomas

      The wall of text would be more readable if you didn’t type like a 10-year old who just found 4Chan.

      Srsly cuzz u need to go bak 2 skoo an l2read.

      • Asparagus

        agreed.

      • Dashi

        I LOLD

    • Dashi

      Didn’t I Tell You To GTFO Yesterday? Who Said You Could Come Back? Bad Penis Jockey!

  • TranquilNight

    T-Mobile, as an underdog, shows no extra effort to make us happy, unlike Sprint. :(

  • Joe Buck

    Is this phone going to fix T-mobile’s small/unstable 3G footprint?

  • MW

    Vanilla android and its a deal. I cant stand these custom UI’s

  • Brando

    This sucks. I’m coming from a G1 so i have to get this phone. But then i got to get a new one after christmas? This blow Tmobile I am very very disappointed. Any one know any one in the talent indusrty in LA because I am going to need a new job to afford this. Oh and I doubt that it will have a ffc. This blows.

  • GreenTea

    No thank you Tmo. This is what a superphone looks like on Tmo? It’s not a phone that takes advantage of your fastest speeds? I don’t even need the FFC but at least make it fast. Other carriers tout their super fast speeds or their amazing device. Tmo is doing neither with this subpar new phone. May as well have been released with the other wack Samsung phones that came out last week. Ill stick it out with my G1 until you get something worth my upgrade.

    Sprint is really starting to call my name. Way cheaper and they have better phones. Service sucks but I’m more of a message/data user than a talker anyway.

    If only I could get a discount at Verizon… *doing some research*

    • J-Hop2o6

      it does.. SGS maxes out @ 7.2HSPA (no tmo phone surpasses 7.2HSPA–which is still fast.. faster than Sprints “4G” WiMax).. so how is it slow? Network is fast.. SGS 1GHz Hummingbird is fast (faster than Snapdragon).

      • 2FR35H

        @J-Hop206

        Nope that is not our fastest speeds our fastest speed are HSPA+ which would theoretically be able to output 21mbps

      • J-Hop2o6

        so your sayin 7.2 isn’t fast? u must be on crack.. even if this phone was 21HSPA+ you’ll get NO MORE than 12mbps in real test results.

    • 2FR35H

      @J-Hop2o6

      You seem to be missing the point. A phone as fast as this should be complimented with the fastest speeds possible.

      HSPA+ is the fastest for t-mo’s network.

      Sure it would be faster than our competitors still but its not the fastest possible.

      Many devices are HSPA+ “enhanced” aka 7.2mbps and that is nothing compared to 12 or 21mbps and I highly doubt it would be 12 /21mbps if t-mobile upgrades their network.

      If you are creating a new network why not start making devices HSPA+?

  • going_home

    Samsung what ?

    :(

  • Maverick777

    Man, these posts just goes to show that you simply can’t please some people no matter what.

    No FFC? Who cares. The AT&T version doesn’t have it either. Even if it had one, who are you going to use it with? No one except SGS users would even be able to receive the video calls. And T-mobile never promised it would have one. Only people that have seen/know about the European version would even know it’s missing.

    SGS Pro has camera flash? Who cares, aside from making a nice flash light, LED flash ruins most pictures. The SGS Pro is also thicker. Who needs a physical keyboard with Swype preintstalled. I have a TP2 and literally type just as fast with Swype as I do with the keyboard. AND you can Swype with one hand. Landscape keyboards are way too wide to do the same. If you’ve never used Swype, you owe it to yourself to try it out for at lesat a week. It’s the future of texting on a phone.

    I for one also prefer this 4 button layout to the 3 button international version.

    No HSDPA+? Not that huge of a deal. I get 5-11 mbps right now on my touch pro 2. It’s plenty fast enough for a phone connection. I’m able to tether multiple computers and stream and browse just fine. Could it be faster? Yes. But it’s already WAY faster than AT&T and much faster than Sprint most of the time.

    Still have complaints? Go to AT&T and Sprint when they get their versions. Then you can complain about AT&T’s network and the lack of the same features on the other phones. T-mobile 3g is currently faster than Sprints 4g where I’ve used it.

    Want a Moto droid phone on Verizon? Go for it. Their plans are more expensive and 1 ghz hummingbird is proven to be faster than 1ghz snapdragon. Plus you don’t get the Super Amoled screen or the built in memory. Prove me wrong, but I’m pretty sure this is the only droid phone that has both builtin memory and a microSD slot. So if you don’t mind losing those features for LED flash on the phone and are willing to pay more for service, more power to you. Have fun with big red. I’m still glad we have so many options these days for Android phones.

    For me, I’m glad T-mo is releasing this phone. It will the first one I’ll ever pre-order or stand in line for. The plans may not be as cheap as Sprint, but at least it’s still a world phone. that’s important enough for me to never switch to Sprint.

  • jshin

    This phone is Meh, specs are fine but its a samsung which = Meh.

  • Nobody

    i just came from Sprint and if by cheaper you mean more expensive with hidden fees and an equally unreliable network then yes… sprint is cheaper… i don’t care if the Eco morphed into a toaster and made me breakfast in bed I’d never go back to Sprint!

    • Patrick

      Well said brother.. Well said.

    • David Thomas

      Actually, I’d hop on board with the quickness if it could make me breakfast in bed.

  • Nobody

    Most of you b*tch about things the normal everyday customer hasn’t a clue about… go outside… your keyboards are begging for a break… this phone is gonna pwn with that sexy screen (best in the biz) and people will love that it runs android… plain and simple… f**k the ffc or the fact that it doesn’t ave hspa+ speeds! not even the evo gets 4g most places… re-freakin-lax!

    • Patrick

      settle down dude

    • David Thomas

      ITT: Jealous guy rages about people who have a passion for the latest in tech.

  • Myg1

    And who wants to see ur ugly faces for more than ten mins on video callin..lol even your wife or gfs don’t want to see you all the time..talking about trying to be cool n use video video chats..pay for something that you actually use instead of sking for something that other phones have…no phones are perfect so quit whining like a little kid

  • SoFla

    Who cares about the FFC… No big deal to me. But, No HSPA? What were they thinking with that one?

    • J-Hop2o6

      it has 7.2HSPA (like most of the rest of T-Mo smartphones).. check out T-Mo’s phones specs @ http://gsmareana.com

  • Davidohio

    I talked to a friend who is a manager at t-mobile and to t-mobile through twitter and both said the Samsung Vibrant is hspa+ and they don’t know why that post says it is not. So for now i am going to saw it is hspa+ . My nokia Nuron is hspa+ so why would this new android power house not be lol

  • Jmts80

    Looks like I will be holding on to my cliq xt for a while longer. =/

  • mailman1387

    @ Dude talking bout TMO never promised anything an ATT version has no FFC or flash an the service vs TMO

    Your not paying attention buddy..TMO doesn’t have promise jack.The fact that their litterally fighting for their USA lives means its standard that when mobile technology upgrades and becomes a trend they are supposed to catch on.That’s how business work like 3D..every is doing it,they didn’t promise.Why are you saying the ATT version is similar to TMOs version? The point people are making isn’t bout stupid ATT version its more bout the fact that every Companies main money making phone has something you can’t resist.ATT has Iphone which has FFC therefore SGS for ATT doesn’t need mention.Sprint has EVO which has everything an Verizon has Droid X which has everything the EVO has except FFC but TMO rips iphone 3G an takes away features an wants it to be their hot super phone.That’s BS.If you had either Flash or FFC I guarantee their wouldn’t be as many complaints an even I would stay with em if it had 1 of those but no they take FFC,Flash,HSPA+ and let’s not forget HDMI away so tell me what’s so super bout that? Can’t be the memory cuzz with Froyo u can buy that much for $50 or less.Since their service is slow what’s the point in a 1GHZ processor?It’ll be 2x faster than the G1 at most when with HSPA+ it should be 4x faster atleast.Last..Don’t look like a fool comparing TMO service to any of their competitors because its a proven fact that TMO is far behind especially in the major cities an I live in NYC an they care more bout major cities whether u like it or not lol.The cell and Data services are far behind the other 3 companies. So don’t compare services.why do you guys keep settling?

  • cooMANDINGO

    i think all the people that say they wouldnt use he ffc should just keep it moving.Im one of the people that wants the ffc. and for the people saying we want one because of ip4 your wrong idiot because technically the samsung galaxy S has the ffc first. we all want exactly what we were showed when saw video and pics of the Galaxy S. wanting a ffc has nothing to do with ip4.if its in the orignial(galaxy s) why shouldnt we be mad that they took it out?its like getting a nice foreign car just for the us to remove the factory Bose system for a factory variant that doesnt nearly the same. all the g1er’s from day one(september 2008) were waiting for something to replace this phone. im not he only thats pissed and willing to goto spring and pay more. im going to a place where i can buy what i want with the features i want.i know its a phone damn it i want what i want point blank.knowing tmobile they took out the DLNA too.they put avatar on the phone like we give isht. most of by now have een that movie a trillion of times or atleast we all know how to download it and put it on the phone. and lets not talk about the sims. the last i checked no one was realling checking for that game anymore. its all about …….. whatever you play. WE WANT WHAT WAS SHOWED TO US(originally european galaxy s with the dlna and ffc).This will probably be a good seller but come on tmobile.You guys screwed up again.and now theyve announced a htc vision. yeah right thats ploy to hold us until another phone comes out. HTC EVO here i come. yea i will be paying more but ts going to be for what i want point blank.

    • mailman1387

      I agree mostly with you but understand that the people don’t want it because the iphone has it they want it cause the major companies are bringing it out and it happened to be the Iphone. Also the Evo was first in the US to have a FFC and then the Iphone. The SGS is UK so that doesn’t count cause FFC has been a standard on UK phones for bout 4 years now.

  • cooMANDINGO

    @mailman… are you serious. the ffc HAS BEEN STADARD for 4 years in europe??Im a phone person and i didnt even know that isht.!WOW america in thelate in tech amongst many things are wAAAAAAY behind in the times!thats why the people that say they dont care about the ffc are keeping america behind because they dont want to do the new techs until its old news to other countries.its a shame that mos tmobile consumers are stoopid old people. no offense but come on tmobile your a european based company co why are you giving us these american variants??? we want the ffc because its on the origially and not because of the ip4. if it came STANDARD on the glalaxy S why remove it. id rather have the ffc then the SUPER amoled screen. regular amoled would have been fine.I dont know what the regular amoled looks like so why should i care about a super one? tmobile has shown clealry that they can remove features so why no add the hdmi output and the ffc and trust me us g1′ers would have been plenty happy but i forgot t-homo is ran by a bunch of CHIMPS!

  • raymond

    i just thought t mobile would make this phone great -_- the best option would had been to leave the phone alone and not touch it :( is the network to slow to support video calls?

    • mailman1387

      @ mandingo
      It isn’t standard on every UK phone but most of the top phones have had it since bout 4 years ago. Go to there UK site and you’ll see. That’s why phones on UK sites like the SGS n original tmo wing which had FFC I think came out an was free or $100 tops with contract. These features so called new to the US so they charge us $200 with contract. Smfh.
      @Raymond
      The network isn’t to slow. TMO is just cheap that’s why they take on Samsung and now LG phones are coming. They say “hey nice phone Sammy but we’re gonna edit it cause if theses American kids get ahold of a FFC with Fring they’ll cost us to much seeing video chat is the shiznip on pcs,Xbox natal and even tvs.
      That may put us on top but hell naw we gonna support our UK family with everything they want and get our bonus from these US settlers who can settle for a lesser version of the original product..and the best part is they settle even when we show em the original product ahead of time. Haha we struck gold with these settlers.”

      • mailman1387

        Oh yea n if memory serves right even the great HTC HD2 UK version had FFC but there was no complaints cuzz the phone had everything else. See how TMO is..smfh.

  • 00Negro

    Update: So I just had the opportunity to check out the European version of this phone from a friend who imports tech over here to the USA from overseas. First off, the screen is lovely. Like, its great. I love it. The build quality is pretty good. Its better than my G1 or my GF MyTouch 3G Slide.. so thats a good start. By now we all know what Android is so thats already in place and its good and only bound to get better over time. Me and him were talking and both said that even though Samsung kinda left people high and dry with the Behold II update, Tmobile did take notice of that and I would think (hope) Samsung would not want to repeat this same scenario. I think focus turned to releasing their new SmartLife line of phones and frankly the Behold II just got put on the backburner. Not that what happened is justified, but that seems to be what has been going on. Now the version he had DID have this FFC we have all been talking about. Of course, we werent able to actually video call anyone, but you can kinda of play with it anyways. Cool, nonetheless. Necessary? No. Wanted? Yes. Seeing the phone physically, it is very confusing as to why they would go through all the trouble to remove this. Unless perhaps its still there. Honestly, it just feel funny.

    BUT, as far as anything else goes in the Tmobile phone lineup. With or without FFC, this phone is better by long shots. Hardware-wise we do still have the HTC HD2, but that phone is hinder badly by WinMo 6.5. So logically this is the next real “big” phone. Speed is awesome. And mind you Im comparing this to my G1. Think V6 Camaro (…yes I think the new ones are slow..lol) vs. Corvette ZR1. Lol.

    It’s good that Tmobile has released this phone for now. This project emerald buisness, once it pans out, could be something. If it is as great as they are trying to make it sound, I dont think anyone here who has purchased a Vibrant would think twice to putting the money up to buy that phone. I know I wouldnt think twice. For now if your up in the air as to what to do and enjoy Tmobile like I do, this may very well be a phone that can hold your off till years end. My G1 is on its last leg. I will buy this one and keep my eyes peeled on this year. If Tmobile has a monster brewing up their sleeves, then I will be there to partake. If not, well I have this to keep me occupied while they come up with something else. Against, the rest of the competition this phone will hold up well. Now if your having a Camera Faceoff with the Iphone 4 or EVO 4G, then yeah you most likely will lose. If however, your comparing each phone by way of apps, processor, useability, build quality, call quality, display, speed… etc. your in good hands for the time being. Its not the best thing on the market, but from talking with my friend I dont think Tmobile can really backtrack after this. If for anything this is an excellent foundation to build upon. Future phones can only be better.

    • J-Hop2o6

      nice little informative review

    • mailman1387

      TMO has proven future phone won’t always be better with the MT,MT3G and now this Vibrant.Also the Vibrant wouldn’t lose vs the EVO or Iphone in video call comp because it has a 1.3MP which is same as EVO an that beats the Iphone cause iphone has VGA but that doesn’t matter.What matters is its still a feature u keep even if its worst cuzz people want it.
      @All those saying it won’t be a big hit or who needs it

      If that was true then why would TMO take it out or say it will effect there data shares?Cuzz they know it will be used enuff to cost their cheap hinds. They took it out to prevent something cuzz they know it’ll be a hit. For most.It can’t be a negative other than costing em more on Data usage so that should tell you TMO lovers something.

      • J-Hop2o6

        also.. the US market JUST started to recognize/promote [more heavily] Video Calling, using the EVO & iPhone (wifi only–or thru a mifi) to push it mainstream.. so im guessing Tmo doesn’t see it being a necessity at THIS point in time until it really catches on in the US market (and to cut cost–phone wise).. and they’re prolly waiting for HSPA+ to be released in MOST Major cities first before making FFC on their network mainstream (HTC Vision? HTC “sidekick twist”?).. is FFC a nice feature? yes.. is it necessary? depends (like distance from family).. is it a deal breaker? no.

        like i said, look at the iPhone… FFC via WiFi-ONLY (unless you use mifi).

  • Sean

    T-mobile has the vibrant on their site already. If you type in “vibrant” in Tmo’s search box, it will bring it up and also a photo that says coming soon. It has some info. Interestingly, to the left side it is under an”X” category.

  • crazydog

    Is there a way to activate a HTC EVO in Tmo?

    • cooMANDINGO

      evo is cdma phone(no sim card) and tmobile uses a gsm(sim card) network. you have to buy an unlocked phone. goto expanys

  • Stillwaiting

    Is there any possiblity that this Tuesday we will find out that, like expected this phone will not come out with a FFC or a camera flash? I think so, but isn’t it also possible that they will reveal that other phones will be released down the road that will be added to the Samsung line up (similar to what Motorola has done with the Droid) and available from T-mobile?

    After all, Samsung did said they were going to be highlighting new smart phones at this event, not one phone. Now they could be showing off each phone that will be at T-mobile, Sprint, & ATT, but they could also reveal what’s coming down the pipeline, couldn’t they?

    As an example, there hasn’t been one mytouch phone, but several of them, so why wouldn’t this be the beginning of the Galaxy S line?

    • mailman1387

      The Virbrant will not have FCC or Flash cuzz the SGS didn’t even have flash.See what happens when you settle?you hope an let TMO fool you into new contracts.Also they said they would release new smartphones which just means new smartphone OS but that doesn’t mean the phone itself will be a hit.You can put android on a TMO phone with the same features the WING had an its a smartphone but it doesn’t mean great things are coming.As far as the Galaxy line I think not cause it would seem the Galaxy line has already been finished in UK an their best 2 phone was the SGS an the SGS Pro with qwerty.Even if future Galaxy line phones was coming….SEE WHAT I MEAN PEOPLE?? Settle an hope for the NEXT phone..before you know it your a year forward saying the same thing since your once again behind in mobile technology.This is why TMO is literally dying in the US.

  • cooMANDINGO

    @mailman.. thast my point ! these americans took the same Settlers for real!! Thats why i hate tmobile so much. i goto expansys.com to see wat re new phones in the uk and like what the F! we getthe bottom of the barrel crap. i actually bought a sony ericcson P900 back in 2005 and people here were amazed. i had full moives on my phone. i had full albums video longer than 5 minutes. and this all back in 2005 while everyone else was playing wih their sidekicks! SMH so it seems as though i will be ordeing another phone from expansys.com. @mailman what are some features you gus have that us amercains clearly dont have,that we should hope for in the next four years? 00negro that was a little too much to read i had to skim through that isht to see what you were talking about.Tmobile fails yet again. The “settlers(tmobile customers and most american consumers)” have let tmobile come out with another wack ass phone and they dont care to say something about it. mobile will NEVER see 600,000 sales or presales in 1 day! They are stuck on cheap.There trying to be the american family phone but not doing a good job at it. They have the worst marketing.Tmobile had the g1 about year before anyone else had an android phone(sprint had the Hero Duh).1 year later the 3g .WOMP,the click,click xt,behold 2 ,mt3gs! WOMP WOMP WOOOMMPP. ff the back Verizon has the Droid(killed it).Sprint had the hero(with better marketing couldve been better).So with a whole year start how is it tmobile is Behind in the SALES of android phones? What part o their business moto says to fail and fail succesfully at everything from marketing to choosing phones?Wo ever choose the phones needs to be SLAPPED in the face and fired. theres no way you let SPRINT come out from behind and get a better phone then you and sell more than you. Sprint had nothing but th Hero and he Palm Pre.Knowing tmobile they see those huge numbers from Verizon,Att and Sprint and theyre shrugging their shoulders like atleast we have best customer service. Im like yeah for the customers you have left!!

    • mailman1387

      @mandingo
      I’m in NYC bro not UK but I’m sort of a geek when it comes to tech lol.I’m always checking out TMO UK sites to compare their stuff.Idk what they have that we can wait for in the next 4 yrs that’s standard but based on articles it seems they are already bout to launch 3D phones an integrate the XBox Natal tech where ur body is the control but in cell phone cases sensors read your movements an u don’t have to touch the phone I’m guessing.The article was actually bout the Natal tech being used on laptops but cells in UK and Asia will test it b4 year ends I bet. This wont hit the US for another 2yrs from the launch overseas I bet.

      • cooMANDINGO

        tmobile just screwed up and thats sad. perfectly good phone and effed it up.i guess i will be buying from expansys when i get a chance.

  • taaars

    FFC is a gimmick here at best (the other person needs it, it can only be run over wifi, etc), From a business (and cost) standpoint TMO may have taken into consideration how many people would actually use the FFC for video calls, and crunched the numbers to see if a higher priced FFC would sell vs a unit that was cheaper without FFC, and in the end they may have saw that the FFC was just not worth it. Now…it also probably meant the difference in price with a 16gb and 8 gb + or – a FFC. Granted, I have no idea which one they went with, BUT if they had to exclude the FFC to get the 16gb at 199 with contract they made the right choice.

    • cooMANDINGO

      in my book tmobile messed up. damn crunching numbers. in order to make money ya gotta spend money.they let google put their hands in their pocket. you know many n1 wouldve sold if it was through tmobile. but noooooo they waned to crunch numbers then too huh? if you remove what made the device unique then how do expect ot sell the phone at all? So how is it SPRINT on its last leg was able to pull out a big boy like the EVO and sell it for $199? and lets not forget to mention the ip4 for $199. So for the removal of the ffc shouldnt the phone be like $100 with a 2 year contract since your talking about numbers.so if youre saying the ffc is gimmick so a camera,touchscreen,movies,avatar,sims all gimmicks. so why is ok for that gimmick but not this one? Tmobile needs to SELL PHONES to make business.Tmobile can never really make money on me because i never go over anything. Tmobile makes money off me because of the phones and the data service.So i guess the data service is a gimmick too?

    • mailman13877

      That’s BS cause if you use FFC with skype then it’s a hit seeing both parties won’t need to have a FFC.One party can be on the PC skype i would think therefore it’s a hit no matter what.Also because it’s all open source on android i would think once you have 2.0 software and up you should be able to talk on Fring and if you don’t have a FFC you can still see the person but they just cant see you.

  • taaars

    And leave +hspa and flash topic alone, it was never in the phone specs from the get go, it would have been nice if they did have them, but we always knew these were not present, so it was wishful thinking the whole time. (I may have been upset if they were removed in the end)

    • mailman13877

      No it wasn’t but when you take away the FFC then we have to find a replacement to make the product worth it and seeing they can edit the product then adding at least single LED would have mad up for it a bit.As far as HSPA+ they did bring it up if you re read this original article dude and since they mentioned it imo why release HSPA+ like 3G and then no phones for it for months but say phones are capable of using it?That’s dumb. See how the other 3 launched a phone at the same time..that how business is successful

      • taaars

        They mentioned HSPA+, yes..but this phone was built before that went into play, I can only guess “dude” that tmo may have tried to get them to include the hardware, but samsung would have charged extra, so it may have meant sacrificing other things. and the fact that HSPA+ is not in full swing, they figured just introduce devices when it is ready. And I say again..I WISH they had added it, but it wasn’t a let down since I wasn’t expecting it.

        Oh,, and the led..IT DOSEN’T HELP MUCH. The only flash that really can help camera is XEON flash..led light is limited, it would have been nice to have a flash, but again, not a deal breaker for me.

        the one thing..ONE thing I wish the phone had was an optical or touch sensitive trackpad.. really, I almost want to wait for an HTC device because of this, but oh well, will just have to see if I can live without it.

        And as I stated before there is a reason camcorders and cameras are still built separately, a camera is better for pictures first, video recording second, and vice versa. If they were both equal, there would be no need to make separate units. Phone today are taking better and better pictures..but are still very limited and will not replace a standard digital camera yet, even higher megapixels doesn’t mean better pictures, there have lots of reviews that have mentioned this.

        No one has even really seen what this phone can or cant do, thats why Im waiting for before I pass final judgement, because in the end this phone could suck rocks, but then again it can be a lot better than anyone expected ( I already like the fact they took out the physical press button in the center)…so everyone needs to take their meds and just relax, go watch the sunset or something and calm yourselves…

  • 2FR35H

    Settle for less and thats all you will get. I don’t settle for less because that is bullshiit.

    Every Carrier should have at least one exclusive phone that has everything.

    Verizon has Droid’s

    AT&T has iPhones

    Sprint has Evo 4G

    what does tmobile have that takes advantage and has everything? basically nothing.

    If this was at least a HSPA+ device people could boast about that but not even.

    Whats the point in having a fast device that doesn’t take advantage of the network?

    • mailman13877

      agreed..You get what you pay for an TMO is known as the cheapest cause they’re literally the CHEAP

      • Dashi

        @ Mailman
        You Really Have Nothing Better To Do Than Bitch About Tmobile All Day On A Tmobile Forum? At Least I Have An Excuse I’m At Work For T-Mobile Lol

      • mailman13877

        @Dashi
        lol your a hater dude.You work for TMO an that’s why your hating on me cause im telling the truth.I’ve been a loyal customer for 10 years and they haven’t provided me with Jack squat other than the Wing and the G1 so now i am gonna bash em.Besides that the worst thing about you stalking me on here is that you work for them and it’s so funny how every time i ask TMO a question they never have an answer and refer me to the forum site saying they themselves get their support from the forum site.What the hell is tech support for.Hire some JailBreakers that have knowledge on both non root and rooted phones.

      • Dashi

        @ Mailman
        At This Point I Have To Agree With You That Tmobile Tech Support And Their High End Phones Suck But Never Less For The Medium To Low End Users It Is Great I Will Also Admit The Only Reason I’m With Tmobile Is The Fact I Work For Them At This Point. And At This Point Stalking You On Here Is Just For The Humor And Finally My (Samsung) Comeback For Anything I May Have Missed Is The Pen is In Your Mouth LOL XD

    • taaars

      I have a solution, for everyone, if you dont like it..go to another carrier..why moan and groan about it? neither you nor I own Tmobile So why get all your panties in a knot?…just cancel your contacts and go (or if your not in one..better yet..you get off easy!) , I had to pay 600 bucks to get out of verizon, and I left att because of all the dropped calls and poor reception the areas I traveled to, plain and simple. I will leave Tmobile if I find another carrier I like and has a phone I believe will suit my needs more, till then I stay, So I am sure all you disgruntled customers will be very happy at another place. So peace and and may you find what your looking for.

      • cooMANDINGO

        you mean CON TRACTS?

      • taaars

        (if I confused you and you don’t know what I meant, then yes, I meant contacts..so cancel all your contacts and go..be a hermit)

  • 2FR35H

    Galaxy S Pro will be the best keyboard android device out there… Until T-Mobile releases their dual core beast of which better be a HSPA+ device. I have faith in HTC I lost faith in Samsung. If the HTC Vision boasts a Super AMOLED that would be above and beyond perfect but I know that is just a dream.

  • badbob001

    Think of it this way: if the price of the phone is comparable to the iphone 4, especially when subsidized, then one would want at least the same features. So if the iphone 4 costs the same and has a FFC and a gyroscope, then WTF? I know T-Mobile is in 4th place, but should I accept less for my money out of pity? And don’t take my comparison with the iphone 4 as a foolish wish for features that never existed in the phone like hspa+. Other versions of the Galaxy S have the gyroscope and the FCC.

  • kast

    If history has taught me anything, then when T-mobile releases dual core phones, the rest of the carriers will be on quad core phones. It’s always a few steps behind. I love the service, but HATE the phones.

    Does anyone know where I can find photos comparing the SGS, iPhoney 4, and Evo cameras? Who needs a flash if the camera alone can take good images. I can live without FFC, but would like the option of a camera flash.

  • kai

    theres nothing wrong with this phone….as long as samsung can keep up and update to froyo.

  • darkknight49

    lol at everyone on the HTC bandwagon. I understand samsung’s reputation with the Behold but jeez people, HTC or nothing? How about waiting to see the phone in person before damming it to hell?

    • taaars

      Im not worried about updates, they rooted the phone already…I have both my MT3Gs rooted, and I have 2.1 running nice on them, and I prefer vanilla droid, so once I get this phone ( or another if a better one is announced) ill be be rooting it as well.

    • mailman13877

      No ones on the band wagon..Everyone has been buying HTC phones since the windows mobile days..remember the TMO WING and then the other 3 companies version of the wing or should i say qwerty slide up phones by HTC??Seems like HTC is new to you.

  • stephan brubaker

    How funny that everybody forgets that if it wasn’t for T-mobile, Android probably wouldn’t be what it is now. Probably wouldn’t be anywhere around because nobody had the balls to market a phone that was supposed to go up against the iPhone.

    Secondly I have never read anywhere where T-mobile themselves has called this a superphone. NOWHERE, bloggers and “news” sources have dubbed it that.

    How typical that the underdog goes out on the limb and takes a chance with a new mobile OS and after its success the bigger ones come along and snatch up the best phones.

    In the end if you are the phone manufacturer you are going to go with who has the most customers and the most money to make you. So let’s say that Verizon does come out with a version of SGS with a FFC, what’s to say that Verizon didn’t contact Samsung long ago and tell them we want to be the only one to offer a FFC. What’s T-mobile going to say, No we don’t want a version of it for ourselves.

    Stop thinking it’s T-mo who doesn’t want this or that feature and start thinking in terms of what really makes the industry go round. $$$$$ and whoever has the most of it makes the rules.

    • mailman13877

      your of base dude..First you need to Google “Samsung Vibrant Super phone” i bet you won’t say no one mentioned it to be a super phone. Second..If TMO didn’t release the G1 it would’ve been released by another company or like the N1 and it would’ve probably have a better name to lol.All jokes aside Android isn’t a success because of TMO no matter how you put it.Last…Samsung has no say in TMO editing their phone once they purchase it so at the end of the day that so called industry is TMO and they aren’t trying to make money cause one again buddy,do your research and you’ll see there’s rumors or them vanishing from the US in 2011 due to their Failures.You’ll even see that they almost went bankrupt in the UK recently.

      • Dashi

        All Your Base Are Belong To Us!!!!!!! LOL

  • stephan brubaker

    Well first ‘mailman’ if you would go through and properly read someones post you would see I said nowhere did T-MOBILE the actual company, not bloggers or other news sources state the Vibrant as their superphone.

    Second Verizon just like they did with the iPhone passed on taking up Android as did AT&T.

    I mean you keep say do research and apparently most of your research is from pcmag and other “news” worthy sources. Give me a break. Just because you are gullible enough to believe every piece of trash you read is pretty much a personal problem. Just walk through life with your eyes closed and everybody else guiding you.

    And please tell me that you are in the meeting sessions with Samsung and Tmobile when the product decisions are being made. and to say that Samsung has no control over what happens is really a dumb statement. T-mobile is not sending people over there to produce these phones for them.

    • mailman13877

      First of Stephan non of these companies really say super phones themselves with the exception of Verizon maybe so you get your facts str8 as these names come from bloggers and the media at events like CTIA.Second it doesn’t matter who passed on the android OS cause like i said..Google would have sold it like the N1 or through a smaller company and it would be just as successful.third the so called PC Mag sources are the same damn sources that let us know when a phone or some new tech is coming out and they come true for the most part like how you TMO lovers are believing with all your hearts a Dual Core phone is coming..Well TMO didn’t officially spread the news.Those PC Mag sites got it to spread around like a wildfire to your TMO loving a** ears.Tell me when Engadget has Failed on their sources genius?And Last..Samsung has no say on how TMO edits their phone cause once the phone ownership is final an Sammy gets the money then legally they now have to make the phone how TMO wants it and signed the deal for it.That’s how it works that’s why Google has no say on when TMO can drop Froyo like it was with Cupcake.

  • myg1

    @cooMANsingle 1gzh snapdragon..all i hear is just rants from u..check out ur post again on android phone fans..DINGO…dude u dont even know that a 800mhz dual core processor is faster than a

    • cooMANDINGO

      first and foremost your girl doesnt get my name wrong why should you! 2nd of all it could be a quad core .i still be tmobile screw it up.besides the g1,wing and mda tmobile has nothing but wack isht. its sad that i have to buy my phones from overseas because tmobile sells crap.like i said before tmobile phone service sells itself but if the phone suck then what?all im saying is….the ffc or anything else shoudld’nt have been taken out. despite the cost.in order for tmobile to see those great nmbers they have to go outside their vision of family plans. stop being the Big 3′s bitch. and as far as the rumor about the dual core kust that its a rumor. i will start a blog saying verizon will have a quad core with 3 cameras and i bet you will believe it. who ever came up with the emerald thing is lying. they just trying to hold us over to i dont know but im taking my hard earned money elsewhere. if you choose to settle like a dumb ass then go ahead.

  • myg1

    @cooMANDINGO…dude u dont even know that a 800mhz dual core processor is faster than a single 1gzh snapdragon..all i hear is just rants from u..check out ur post again on android phone fans..
    typos up there

  • myg1

    for those of u that keep calling Tmobile cheap…yeah its cheap and save u money thats why ur asses are still with them n thats why u have a computer to type on with the money u save..ive been with them since voicestream..never had a problem..its not like they say ohthis month ill make u go over ur mins so i can make money off of u..its a consumers responsibility to watch what theyre doing…

  • Really?

    I can handle no FFC. I can handle no camera flash. I could handle no HSPA+. But all three? This really gives me pause, especially after Behold II. I’d want to see some sort of explicit promise, on T-Mobile or Samsung’s website, of a future upgrade to at least Android 2.2 before signing up for Vibrant.

  • eYe

    I’m not getting this because it looks like iphone-wanna be. I could care less about lack of flash or FFC.

  • Myg1

    You must be talking about your sister that you thinks is you’r gf that calls your name?….why go on here end complain everyday? if t mobile doesn’t have the right phone for you them go somewhere else your still sticking with them cuz you can’t afford big red or att..the phone may not be right for you but its awesome to alot of peoples for someone like you that things a 1ghz is faster than a dual core 800mhz is a joke..you shouldn’t even be a techie mr thinks he knows it all..

    • cooMANDINGO

      LMFAO!!!! check this out cuz i dont really care about this stuff. and like i said before i just want them to leave the phone they initially made the phone(galaxy s). but since thats not happening i have every right and left to complain. im a post paid customer. ive been with tmobile since march 2003. if a company isnt delivering the best product available and gets your hard money every month you have the right to say what you want. i pay the monkey ass thousands of dollars of the years the least i ask is they come out with something comparable in attributes to the other phone companies. trust me dog i mo not cheap u CHOOSE not pay more thats it point blank!Tmobile is a european based phone company so why dont we have any cool euro phones that you cant get with the other companies i.e ip4,evo,incredible. those other companies have level phones that sell themselves while get a rehash of an aight phone from an ight company.I dont even know if we will have DLNA. they probably took that out too and i be you dont care.this is 2010, we have a black president which means its time for a change in mobiles service.spend money to make money.tmobile sill stay the 4th company because they dont know how to SELL PHONES!! the phone service pays for itself like i said before.Tmobile couldve had it last year with the n1 but noooooo they chose to let google sell their phones and use them through tmobiles network! FAIL. tmobile would have millions of those phones if they would sold it themselves. I dont know whos running tmobiles phone selection dept but hey need to punch in the throat with brass knuckles by anderson silva.The problem with tmobile is that there thinking on a small scale.

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