T-Mobile Next U.S. Carrier To Get iPhone Love, Not Verizon?

Here we go again…yet another analyst has predicted a T-Mobile USA iPhone. The lastest comes from Kaufman Bros. analyst Shaw Wu who claims that Magenta is a more likely fit for the iPhone’s next home in the U.S. rather than Verizon Wireless, because T-Mobile’s 3G network wouldn’t require Apple to build a separate iPhone to support it. “Currently, T-Mobile’s 3G service (UMTS/HSPA) supports 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies while AT&T supports 850 MHz and 1900 MHz frequencies,” Wu wrote in a note to clients today. “Interestingly, both the new iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS support 3G at the 2100 MHz frequency and, from our understanding, the technical hurdle to support T-Mobile is minor compared to supporting CDMA technology at Verizon and Sprint.” Shaw Wu also believes that Apple is eager to “attack Android more directly” and argues that Apple would need to get the iPhone into the line-up of carriers that currently support  Android. Additionally, Wu adds that, “we are picking up that T-Mobile views the iPhone as key in winning back lost customers and as such could be more likely to agree to Apple’s terms.” Wu states that the iPhone may come to T-Mobile USA as early as this fall. If you may recall, earlier this year, Deutsche Telekom CEO Rene Obermann hinted in an interview that its T-Mobile USA branch is indeed hoping to land a deal for the iPhone as soon as late 2010 or 2011.

It’s quite ironic that this claim is made just days after Apple’s unveiling of the new iPhone 4 at WWDC. How convenient to say it after the announcement? But, nonetheless the iPhone would definitely be a nice addition to the T-Mobile lineup and as well as bringing in a slew of new subscribers that are frustrated with AT&T. What say you?

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  • Ana

    With AT&T no longer offering unlimited date, this would definitely be a HUGE step up for T-Mo if, in fact, they offer unlimited date with the iPhone (why wouldn’t they?)

  • Darien

    I think it would be a huge addition to the tmo line up as it would give the iphone user a chance to use a carrier with amazing customer service.

    But personally I would prefer tmobile to gain its own superphone that can only be had on TMOBILE.

  • Tee

    HELL YEAH! at&t would lose MILLIONS of customers to T-Mobile + T-Mobile’s CEO is not gonna tell customers to lay off usage they are paying for… WTF you thinking at&t???

    T-MOBILE’S Rate Plans are about $20-$40/mo CHEAPER than at&t too.

    BRING ON IPHONE4 TO T-MOBILE!!! JUNE 19, 2010???

    • Awatt

      That’s probably not happening on the 19th since it’s launching at AT&T on the 24th. If anything, if I had to guess, it would be in the fall window. IF, this even happens at all.

  • john

    Here come the comments, I personally think it would be great for the company, but it is not the phone for me.

    • Dashi

      I Agree I Hate Apple But It Would Be Great For Tmobile!

      • john

        Damnit, someone agreed with me…ah well time to go piss off the isheep @ engadget. Lol

  • Chase

    I think tmobile needs to kickip it into gear if they want to release a phone Ike the iPhone. They need to roll out 3G and get better coverage. This ‘nationwide’ 3G bit is getting really old.

    • http://www.icbeats.net kevin

      3g has been working fine here in dallas for over 2 years now.

      • the guy

        pretty sure 3g is available everywhere by now, plus a few of the big cities have hspa+.

      • sheshe

        3g is not everywhere yet… I live in a suburb of san diego and I barely get it here

  • Alvin

    Will it happen? Maybe? Ill buy it if my tzones 5.99 plan hack still works! It runs perfectly on my HD2 and hopefully on the iPhone 4. Im normally an iphone hater, but some of the features are pretty darn nice!

  • podstolom

    Minor technical problem yes, but big economic and practical problem, T-Mo 3G on AWS is causing manufacturers to side-step the carrier for their 3G offerings since most global 3G gear is tuned to ATT/Global bands only. I don’t expect this to change in the near future without HSPA chips going penta band, which seems highly unlikely to me.

  • Jeffrey

    I don’t see the point in T-mobile getting an iPhone. They have the WORST 3G coverage ever, and every time I’ve tried to get an answer about getting 3G here in Tallahassee, Florida(the capital btw) I get no answer. Unacceptable considering how many phone lines I pay for every month.

    • J

      You are asking people who don’t know. Until recently, no one knew when Tallahassee was going to happen because the government held onto the frequencies. You can chill out now because your wait is pretty much over.

      Being the capital really doesn’t buy you much. Jacksonville, Orlando, Miami, and Tampa were all priorities above Tallahassee due to population. Tallahassee was on the same priority as Gainesville. Difference is, Gainesville’s frequencies were released by the government far earlier than Tallahassee.

    • http://www.icbeats.net kevin

      what alot of you forget that apple has been partners with tmobile for quite some time now, tmobile uk has been offering the iphone, so when the contract with att is up, why wouldnt they just expand it to tmobile usa, tmobile is a GLOBAL company.

    • john

      WAAAH WAHHH Jeffrey, cry to people who give a !!@@@@##@@$!$%@^^#^. Anyone who wants an iPhone needs to just go waste money at ATT and get it. T-Mobile isn’t getting it and doesn’t need/want it!

  • 313dash

    Sounds like fun! I hope its true but I’m still in love with android for now!

  • Jared

    I don’t understand why apple doesn’t just buy out their contact with AT&T. They can afford it and to release on multiple us carriers would bring in millions $$$ I personally would sick with an Android device still though. I feel with a higher end Android device I have more options and no one to tell me what I can and can’t do.

  • Jared

    I don’t understand why apple doesn’t just buy out their contact with AT&T. They can afford it and to release on multiple us carriers would bring in millions $$$ I personally would sick with an Android device still though. I feel with a higher end Android device I have more options and no one to tell me what I can and can’t do.

  • Mystro

    If Tmobile got an Iphone, I would definitely be interested. I always hear Tmo’s 3G is trash, garbage, etc. Here in Lexington, KY, it is absolutely excellent. I now consistently have a 5 bar 3G signal where ever I go, as opposed to the 2 bar EDGE signal I used to have. So, for me, an Iphone on my current 3G service, hell yes!!!

    • Davidohio

      Mystro.. The people who complain about t-mobile’s 3G network are the ones who live in a fringe area or those who are still waiting for 3G coverage in their area. I have great coverage in Cleveland Ohio and every other 3G market I have been in.

  • http://www.twitter.com/avongauss Aaron Von Gauss

    I can say this is definitely not happening, since if it did, that would mean T-Mobile is actually carrying a phone that I would buy. I’ve been on T-Mobile for many years, but I can’t remember the last phone I actually bought from them.

  • Kent

    I hope this rumor is false. Hordes of iPhone users mean increased loads on an already inadequate network, plus, I think Android is the superior platform anyway.

  • http://www.studiozeroseven.com @IDS07

    I would rather see better android phones but it would be nice to have as a worthy competitor.

  • Danl

    What the heck is wrong with this website. Half the time you can’t get in. “Database Error”, or something.

    • Tim

      I get that too.

      • Bart

        Their twitter said they were doing a server migration that should be done soon. Until then just keep clearing your browser data

  • newbiemn

    The way I see it is, Apple will not break their agreement with AT&T just to go to T-Mobile, that would be silly. They would for Verizon, but I doubt they actually will. Meaning, unless they sign exclusively with Verizon next, when their current agreement ends, why would it not come to T-Mobile. Especially if they keep making it and selling it for AT&T. Unless next June’s iPhone 5 or whatever is only going to be CDMA. Then we’re screwed.

  • bw

    It is missing the 1700 band

    FCC says they support UMTS I/II/V/VI/VIII

    1700 is band IV

  • jay555

    I wonder if this is the reason why T-Mo keeps coming out with mediocre Android phones? Maybe they’re trying to show Apple that their phone won’t have any real competition at T-Mo much like it gets no competition at AT&T. The iPhone is worst thing that could come to T-Mo if you’re an Android user.

    If you think T-Mo’s lineup is bad now wait till the precious iPhone is getting all their attention. Forget the crappy myTouch Slide, the best we’ll be able to hope for will be something along the lines of the Cliq XT.

  • Bill

    If T-Mo got the IPhone, I’d leave jump ship immediately. I don’t wanna share bandwidth with the I-retards.

  • tato22

    it will be a good money maker yes sir it will cant wait

  • cekryb

    I will believe it when I see it.

  • http://www.twitter.com/avongauss Aaron Von Gauss

    I like T-Mobile, been a customer for many years, but I know this isn’t going to happen – because it would mean T-Mobile would actually be carrying a phone that I would buy. I can’t remember the last time I actually bought a phone from T-Mobile.

  • 007

    Highly unlikely iPhone will on tmobile network….
    According to my source verizon will getting it first.

  • SEFan

    I’m skeptical. The just-released iPhone 4 has 5 wCDMA bands: 800, 850, 900, 1900, 2100 mhz. Really looks like they were trying to cover all markets they had an interest in. You’ll note there is no mention of 1700 mhz. If Apple was seriously thinking of a T-Mobile USA iPhone why wouldn’t they include 1700 mhz from the beginning?

    OK, not an airtight argument. For the record, I’d buy it in a minute.

  • J

    I find the IPhone4 over-rated for the simple fact they are not going to support flash. It’s blatant omission. You think leaving out a camera flash is a big deal? I’d give up a camera flash for flash player support any day of the week. Apple is getting too cocky

    • SteveBerman

      Flash sucks. It’s like being pissed your phone doesn’t have a FM radio.. it doesn’t matter.

      T-mobile won’t get the iphone. They are worse off in coverage than At&t, so why would Apple wanna mess with that?

      • J

        Its nothing like being pissed about the lack of an FM radio. Flash is an important part of many websites. But at least the IPhone can finally play Farmville with the app now, huh?

    • Ryanoberlin

      If you’re main reasoning for buying a phone is based on its ability to play Farmville.. You seriously need to re-evaluate your decision to not have any friends..

      Flash is old. Old and done. Anyone who has spent a lot of time with it knows who clunky, buggy, and just plain inefficient it is. HTML 5 does everything Flash does, better.

  • Brie987

    Doesnt matter to me. Love Tmobile hate their phones. Still using my trusty rooted G1 and loving it. But I am waiting for the HTC Vision, read it was coming to Tmo but not sure, fingers/toes crossed. Not an Apple fan. I get frisked, xrayed and questioned when I travel or enter a building, I don’t need to be frisked, xrayed and questioned when using my phone. VIVA LA PORN!!!!

  • Puv

    IF it happens – it simply means more people on my network, reducing my data rates – which if I may say so have been quite stellar! (NYC)

  • T

    It makes sence now the iPhone is going to a different carrier this year, why else would AT&T offer a generous upgrade to the iPhone? Because it’s finally coming to T-Mobile and they want to lock people in another two years before T-Mobile gets it, that’s why!

  • eYe

    I like my Androids but Apple has addressed many of my concerns with the upcoming model. Multi-tasking (not complete but it’s a pretty good implementation still), pretty good screen (I wish it was 3.7, don’t really need anything bigger to be honest, I find 4.3 screens too big for my taste), better camera and many improvements through-out OS. I think I will wait until the end of the year to see if this will materialize. As of right now…. let’s put it this way, I like TmoNews more then I like T-mobile. I don’t even know why I stick around, must be that loyalty. The way I see it is I get as many dropped calls as I would with AT&T, I pay only $20/mo less then I would be on Verizon and last time I called customer service I thought I was talking to Sprint because of how unhelpful and unknowledgeable they were. I sure hope that Tmobile can turn around and become at least, and hopefully better then, what they used to be.

  • LNG

    I don’t buy this guy’s reasoning. First, he’s just guessing, as it doesn’t sound like he’s actually got a source inside Apple. Second, for a company the size of Apple, who just incorporated a display on their phone that’s supposedly higher resolution than the human eye can detect, dropping in a CDMA radio is going to be that big a deal? Every other mobile phone company out there that releases phones in the US has both CDMA and GSM phones.* Not necessarily the same phone, but they all have the expertise to release both types of phones. You think Apple can’t or won’t do that? And going to CDMS from GSM gives them access to two other carriers in the US, not just one, as Sprint’s and Verizon’s networks are compatible with each other.

    He may be right, but not for the reasons he’s stated.

    * I’m guessing here

  • Laont

    If so, I will never even consider leaving TMobile

  • Jim888
    • Kickstar13

      That’s nothing new. T-Mobile UK already has the iPhone.

  • http://jim.edwardsdesign.org Jim Edwards

    I want to believe, but I gotta say… too many back and forth’s on this rumor. Although I gotta say, running with an Ipad and a Nexus One with free tethering is hard to pass up… well unless TMO gave free tethering… hmmm.

  • jp

    A phone like this to possibly come to TMO. Has hell froze over? Since when has TMO offered anything the customer wants? Chalk this one up as wishful thinking.

  • socalfrank

    Sorry, but this is not news. EVERYONE KNOWS it would be easier for Apple to sell GSM phones over CDMA. So it took an analyst at Kaufman to make this a story?
    This story sheds nothing to lead me to believe I should hold off on June 19th from getting another rehashed MyTouch and wait for a T-Mobile version iPhone. Believe me, I would buy one if they sold one.

  • hi!

    eeergh, it’s so frustrating getting these rumors literally every single day. Do they do this on purpose to bait us along? Like someone said earlier, I like this site more than I like tmobile, lol.

    It sucks that this guy seems like he was 100% guessing. It’s like me saying I think the EVO is going to Boost mobile…um….just cause. Has about the same credibility as the guy’s comments above in the story

  • HD2/NEXUS ONE USER

    The iphone is a been there done that device. The 4th is just a glorified screen over the s counter part. 4.3 inch screens are the next norm along with open functionality. i’ve hacked and rehacked iphones. please dont get the has been phone t mo!

  • raymond

    guys shld ii just buy a sprint evo 4g n get it flashed to cricket -_- 40 dollars a month but u get everything unlimited -_- except i won’t have 4g :O

  • mingkee

    Stop spreading false hope please.
    We all know it will ABSOLUTELY NOT happen, so we can put all predictions and speculations to the rest.

  • Negtne

    Who knows what is gonna happen, with the FCC clearing up so much extra space and frequencies. Who knows what T-mobile has up it’s sleeves. And with all the drop calls and iPad security breach with the iPad who knows what the contract says.

    • Negtne

      And from the sounds of the june 19th there gonna be blowing there inventory out, hopefully there blowing it out to stock up on some good stuff coming, all I can do is cross my fingers. And for all those iphone haters out there quit it, if it wasn’t for apple the companies wouldn’t be pushed to come out with better stuff, we would all still be running htc excaliburs or palm treos.

  • Wilma Flintstone

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    at least it’ll boost sells if nothing else.

  • LNG

    I don’t buy this guy’s reasoning. First, he’s just guessing, as it doesn’t sound like he’s actually got a source inside Apple. Second, for a company the size of Apple, who just incorporated a display on their phone that’s supposedly higher resolution than the human eye can detect, dropping in a CDMA radio is going to be that big a deal? Every other mobile phone company out there that releases phones in the US has both CDMA and GSM phones.* Not necessarily the same phone, but they all have the expertise to release both types of phones. You think Apple can’t or won’t do that? And going to CDMS from GSM gives them access to two other carriers in the US, not just one, as Sprint’s and Verizon’s networks are compatible with each other.

    He may be right, but it would be a lucky guess, not because of this network type reason.

    * I’m guessing here

    • Negtne

      Have you looked on gizmodo when the took apart the iPhone 4? It’s packed in there, adding gsm and CDMA in that they would of probably had to make it thicker. Or create two seperate devices which doesn’t make since sense. How many carriers around the world are CDMA? I am asking because I am actually curious! Lol well Apple went to verizon first and they said no. AT&T was one the one who took the chance. I am not gonna lie if the iPhone came to t-mobile I would buy it in a second!!!!

      • ctk

        there are 2 cdma carriers in the major worldwide market: verizon and sprint.

        apple is run by smart business people. they will not build a phone based on completely different radio technology for 1 or both cdma companies when every other major cell provider company IN THE WORLD uses gsm technology. the only way the iphone hits verizon is if verizon starts offering gsm phones. it’s next destination if it has another american destination is t-mobile.

    • Doug

      Tmobile is a logical choice, because its likely only a radio rom mod is needed to support the bands, or just a modified radio chip, iphone is already going to support multiple other 3g frequencies for other locations around the world.

      Converting to CDMA would likely require a complete redesign of the radio portion of the circuitry

      Its one thing to just flash a different radio rom or drop a same design but modified for other freq chip into the same assembly line. Its a whole other expensive story to retool an entire assembly line for a modified board layout to support a standard that few others use around the world.

  • DJK53

    iPhone 4G + Tmobile = My money in Tmobile’s pocket…point blank. Grow some balls Tmobile and get a phone that people want, iPhone 4!!

  • Rotten Apple

    I think I’m gonna be sick . . . Please don’t post anything here about the eyephone unless it’s TMO’s press announcement. That will be my cue to pack up and leave TMO for someone who hasn’t drank the koolaid.

  • Frozenicecream

    i can see it already

    in the apple store

    hello i would like to buy an iphone

    would you like
    at&t or t-mobile?

    Looks at rate plans

    at&t 450 mins+ unlimited text+2gb of internet 100$
    t-mobile 500 mins+ unlimited text+unlimited internet=75

    i think i will take t-mobile

    • Junior

      Lol hahaha!!! Im with u

  • timmyjoe42

    Why do people think that Apple would rather be lazy and sign a deal with T-Mobile than make modifications to their device? Come on, Steve Jobs knows how to sell devices and will do so if he wants to.

  • Kevin

    The New iPhone 4 uses microSIM cards. If it were to come to T-Mobile, subscribers would need to get a new microSIM card. If it didn’t come to T-Mobile and stayed on AT&T, we would be SOL because of the simcard problem. Damn you Apple and you microSIM card support! lol

    • covert

      TMO has micro sim technology already in use and it’s imminent that it will be adapted to phone use.
      http://www.mhealthupdate.com/?p=704

    • Doug

      umm current iphone/att users are in the same predicament, all iphones till now used the old standard size, they’ll all have to be swapped out or the card cut down if you really want to keep your old one

  • Michael

    As much as I want to see T-Mobile USA offer an iPhone for those iLovers, I’ll believe it when I see it.

    I still love T-Mobile!

  • Vision77

    I’ll believe it when I see it…..Until then its the N1 for me….Now if you say the EVO is coming to T-Mo