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	<title>Comments on: Did The Behold 2 Get Left Out In The Cold?</title>
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		<title>By: Kobby</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-2/#comment-461698</link>
		<dc:creator>Kobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello i hv samsung Behold 2 i want to update da android OS how do i do it </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello i hv samsung Behold 2 i want to update da android OS how do i do it</p>
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		<title>By: Android 1.6 Update For Behold II Coming June 28th? &#124; TmoNews - Unofficial T-Mobile Blog - News, Videos, Articles and more</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-94953</link>
		<dc:creator>Android 1.6 Update For Behold II Coming June 28th? &#124; TmoNews - Unofficial T-Mobile Blog - News, Videos, Articles and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] failed to follow through for, causing angry customers and threats of a potential lawsuit? Yeah, that one. If you may recall, Samsung ended up announcing that it would give Behold II owners one last update [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] failed to follow through for, causing angry customers and threats of a potential lawsuit? Yeah, that one. If you may recall, Samsung ended up announcing that it would give Behold II owners one last update [...]</p>
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		<title>By: noneway</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-89919</link>
		<dc:creator>noneway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 02:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samsung&#039;s real problum is the cruel crime http://bit.ly/90f0AX more than deception. http://bit.ly/a9nih3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung&#8217;s real problum is the cruel crime <a href="http://bit.ly/90f0AX" >http://bit.ly/90f0AX</a> more than deception. <a href="http://bit.ly/a9nih3" >http://bit.ly/a9nih3</a></p>
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		<title>By: TigerLilyBlues</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-88008</link>
		<dc:creator>TigerLilyBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - I contacted customer service to see what steps they were taking to help customers who purchased this phone under the impression that we would receive 2.0. The response? 

&quot;We do not have any information regarding updates at this time.&quot;

WTH? Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; I contacted customer service to see what steps they were taking to help customers who purchased this phone under the impression that we would receive 2.0. The response? </p>
<p>&#8220;We do not have any information regarding updates at this time.&#8221;</p>
<p>WTH? Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Samsung Says, &#8220;Behold 2 Not Upgradeable Beyond Android 1.6&#8243; &#124; TmoNews - Unofficial T-Mobile Blog - News, Videos, Articles and more</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-87468</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsung Says, &#8220;Behold 2 Not Upgradeable Beyond Android 1.6&#8243; &#124; TmoNews - Unofficial T-Mobile Blog - News, Videos, Articles and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was just yesterday that we reported Samsung Behold 2 owners threatening to take legal action regarding a promise Samsung had made [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was just yesterday that we reported Samsung Behold 2 owners threatening to take legal action regarding a promise Samsung had made [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-87273</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thanks David. Samsung needs to own up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thanks David. Samsung needs to own up.</p>
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		<title>By: shawn1224</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-87175</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn1224</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again David for getting this out in the open for us beleaguered Behold II owners

Let&#039;s hit em where it hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again David for getting this out in the open for us beleaguered Behold II owners</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hit em where it hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/samsung-failing-to-update-behold-2-as-promised/comment-page-1/#comment-87169</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real issue here is the usability of the Behold 2.  I had been desperately looking forward to getting the 1.6, or the 2.x update because I was hoping that the update would make this device actually usable as a phone.

Samsung did such a horrible job with TouchWiz on the Behold 2, that were now stuck waiting for updates to fix our phones, just to get them back to where they should have been in the first place: useful.

I propose that Samsung release an option to download and manually install stock Android 2.x for Behold 2 owners.  We don&#039;t want TouchWiz, and TouchWiz is part of the holdup... so kill TouchWiz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real issue here is the usability of the Behold 2.  I had been desperately looking forward to getting the 1.6, or the 2.x update because I was hoping that the update would make this device actually usable as a phone.</p>
<p>Samsung did such a horrible job with TouchWiz on the Behold 2, that were now stuck waiting for updates to fix our phones, just to get them back to where they should have been in the first place: useful.</p>
<p>I propose that Samsung release an option to download and manually install stock Android 2.x for Behold 2 owners.  We don&#8217;t want TouchWiz, and TouchWiz is part of the holdup&#8230; so kill TouchWiz.</p>
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		<title>By: swrogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>swrogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, what I would like to see (and I&#039;m sure that you and the rest of the Behold II users as well) would be to have T-Mobile push Samsung (or Samsung to just go ahead and do the right thing) to just release a vanilla 2.1 or 2.2 ROM for the device.  Sure it might not have TouchWiz or the cube or any other bolt-ons that they&#039;ve added, but at least it would be an updated OS.  

I know that I would hate to be stuck on 1.5.  Developers aren&#039;t writing apps to versions of Android that are that old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, what I would like to see (and I&#8217;m sure that you and the rest of the Behold II users as well) would be to have T-Mobile push Samsung (or Samsung to just go ahead and do the right thing) to just release a vanilla 2.1 or 2.2 ROM for the device.  Sure it might not have TouchWiz or the cube or any other bolt-ons that they&#8217;ve added, but at least it would be an updated OS.  </p>
<p>I know that I would hate to be stuck on 1.5.  Developers aren&#8217;t writing apps to versions of Android that are that old.</p>
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		<title>By: swrogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>swrogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s been quite some time since I&#039;ve seen the referenced video so I am going to admit ignorance as to the actual content.  Does anybody recall if the video stated what version of Android the device came with?  Did it state that when Android 2.0 came out that it was going to be provided by Samsung?  

Yes, I will give that perhaps the video might have been a little shady.....I don&#039;t think that Samsung had any real options on that one - the device was low spec and just the fact that they expected it to fly off the shelves really kind of disturbs me.

That said, will the &quot;average&quot; T-Mobile soccer mom customer (which would be nobody reading this site...or used to be, I don&#039;t know anymore) care about what version of Android is on their phone?  I know that my wife could really care less, she just wants the darn thing to work smoothly.  Still, going back to the doubletalk of the video - I still contend that if asked, they are going to fall back to the response of either &quot;yes, it can update OTA&quot; or &quot;yes, (some thing - app, OS, whatever) can update OTA&quot;.

I did not purchase the Behold II, I picked up what could be considered the lesser device in the MT3G.  However I did so knowing full well that the OS on it was not at a level that I desired and was fine with that.  I could have picked the Behold II, but as stated I don&#039;t like touchwiz.  I still believe that if you pick something based on &quot;promises&quot; or &quot;possibilities&quot; then you might be upset come the future.  Of course, I will admit that I picked the HTC device knowing full well that I was going to hack it and eventually flash a 2.1 ROM on it...in time.  ;-)  But then, I do admit to not being the average T-Mobile customer.

Did the video influence peoples&#039; decisions?  I&#039;m sure it did.  Would I be angry had I purchased the BII thinking it would get the upgrade?  More than likely.  Is that why Sammy has pulled the videos?  Quite possibly....though I think it&#039;s a big mistake on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been quite some time since I&#8217;ve seen the referenced video so I am going to admit ignorance as to the actual content.  Does anybody recall if the video stated what version of Android the device came with?  Did it state that when Android 2.0 came out that it was going to be provided by Samsung?  </p>
<p>Yes, I will give that perhaps the video might have been a little shady&#8230;..I don&#8217;t think that Samsung had any real options on that one &#8211; the device was low spec and just the fact that they expected it to fly off the shelves really kind of disturbs me.</p>
<p>That said, will the &#8220;average&#8221; T-Mobile soccer mom customer (which would be nobody reading this site&#8230;or used to be, I don&#8217;t know anymore) care about what version of Android is on their phone?  I know that my wife could really care less, she just wants the darn thing to work smoothly.  Still, going back to the doubletalk of the video &#8211; I still contend that if asked, they are going to fall back to the response of either &#8220;yes, it can update OTA&#8221; or &#8220;yes, (some thing &#8211; app, OS, whatever) can update OTA&#8221;.</p>
<p>I did not purchase the Behold II, I picked up what could be considered the lesser device in the MT3G.  However I did so knowing full well that the OS on it was not at a level that I desired and was fine with that.  I could have picked the Behold II, but as stated I don&#8217;t like touchwiz.  I still believe that if you pick something based on &#8220;promises&#8221; or &#8220;possibilities&#8221; then you might be upset come the future.  Of course, I will admit that I picked the HTC device knowing full well that I was going to hack it and eventually flash a 2.1 ROM on it&#8230;in time.  ;-)  But then, I do admit to not being the average T-Mobile customer.</p>
<p>Did the video influence peoples&#8217; decisions?  I&#8217;m sure it did.  Would I be angry had I purchased the BII thinking it would get the upgrade?  More than likely.  Is that why Sammy has pulled the videos?  Quite possibly&#8230;.though I think it&#8217;s a big mistake on their part.</p>
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