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	<title>Comments on: Google Reduces Nexus One &#8220;Equipment Recovery Fee&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its very simple ... A company pays for a top of the line piece of equipment that costs over 400$ to make/buy then they turn around and sell it for 179$ on a contract.... there commission t-mobile pays out makesup for the loss but what if that customer cancel within 4 months of buying from google? T-mobile takes back the commission they paid out for that activation and now google lost the commission AND the phone that can make a company crumble... its that simple a $150 equipment recovery is MORE then reasonable from a business perspective your nieve and ignorant if you think they shouldnt have any fee at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its very simple &#8230; A company pays for a top of the line piece of equipment that costs over 400$ to make/buy then they turn around and sell it for 179$ on a contract&#8230;. there commission t-mobile pays out makesup for the loss but what if that customer cancel within 4 months of buying from google? T-mobile takes back the commission they paid out for that activation and now google lost the commission AND the phone that can make a company crumble&#8230; its that simple a $150 equipment recovery is MORE then reasonable from a business perspective your nieve and ignorant if you think they shouldnt have any fee at all</p>
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		<title>By: analog spirit</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-49206</link>
		<dc:creator>analog spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Well said, Michael.</description>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-49010</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alex76

just as long as u cancel within the 14 day remorse period you good s as gold</description>
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<p>just as long as u cancel within the 14 day remorse period you good s as gold</p>
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		<title>By: alex76</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-48965</link>
		<dc:creator>alex76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, so basically I can open a new line, get the nexus one for $180, wait a week, cancel that line with Tmo, then wait for google to charge me $150 and not return the nexus to tmo (obviously)?? Sounds good to me so as long tmo doesnt charge there own etf on top of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, so basically I can open a new line, get the nexus one for $180, wait a week, cancel that line with Tmo, then wait for google to charge me $150 and not return the nexus to tmo (obviously)?? Sounds good to me so as long tmo doesnt charge there own etf on top of that.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-48933</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i work at a tmobile corporate store and people cancel all the time without returning the device. tmobile customer care doesnt check to see if the handset is returned before canceling under remorse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i work at a tmobile corporate store and people cancel all the time without returning the device. tmobile customer care doesnt check to see if the handset is returned before canceling under remorse.</p>
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		<title>By: eYe</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-48916</link>
		<dc:creator>eYe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds nice in theory but...

Cancellation and Return Policy. For contracts of 1 year or more, I may cancel my service without paying a termination fee if I return all devices I acquired with my activation within 14 days from my activation (Return Period).

...taken from T-mobile&#039;s terms of services.  Part of it requires that you return device to them.  Not sure how it works when you buy your device from Google.  If anyone has a solid info on this - I would appreciate it.  I wouldn&#039;t mind owning N1 for $330 (well, $365 since there&#039;s an activation fee).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds nice in theory but&#8230;</p>
<p>Cancellation and Return Policy. For contracts of 1 year or more, I may cancel my service without paying a termination fee if I return all devices I acquired with my activation within 14 days from my activation (Return Period).</p>
<p>&#8230;taken from T-mobile&#8217;s terms of services.  Part of it requires that you return device to them.  Not sure how it works when you buy your device from Google.  If anyone has a solid info on this &#8211; I would appreciate it.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind owning N1 for $330 (well, $365 since there&#8217;s an activation fee).</p>
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		<title>By: T.P.</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/google-reduces-nexus-one-etf/comment-page-1/#comment-48904</link>
		<dc:creator>T.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice but how about making the phone available to everyone! Sorry I&#039;m not into paying ridiculous amounts of money for a phone. Just me, I&#039;m not hating on those who does. Just feel that T-Mobile doesn&#039;t get respect. Google showed them to me the ultimate disrespect in how they handled this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice but how about making the phone available to everyone! Sorry I&#8217;m not into paying ridiculous amounts of money for a phone. Just me, I&#8217;m not hating on those who does. Just feel that T-Mobile doesn&#8217;t get respect. Google showed them to me the ultimate disrespect in how they handled this.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what if u get the phone at the discount which is 180, and then one u get the phone wait a day or two and cancel service with tmobile under customers remorse. if u cancel service within 14 days within tmobile there is no $200etf. the only fee u will be charged is the $150 fee from google. so u will only be paying the 180 for the phone and the 150 equaling the low cost of $330.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what if u get the phone at the discount which is 180, and then one u get the phone wait a day or two and cancel service with tmobile under customers remorse. if u cancel service within 14 days within tmobile there is no $200etf. the only fee u will be charged is the $150 fee from google. so u will only be paying the 180 for the phone and the 150 equaling the low cost of $330.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s bad business whenever a company imposes penalties and fines.  Last year banks made close to $50 billion in the very profitable overdraft fee industry.
Credit card companies also made in the billions on over limit fines and late payment penalties.

I just think it&#039;s the wrong message to send to consumers.  It&#039;s a very short sighted way to do business, all in the name of profits.

Don&#039;t have a problem with carriers getting back the subsidized discount part of a phone purchase given to a customer, but that should be prorated over time and also include a further discount for depreciation.  If a carrier does not do this, then this is nothing different than a penalty or fine, the same as banks and credit card companies are imposing.

Personally, I like T-Mobile&#039;s new Even More Plus plan.  I just moved from a loyalty, contracted plan (two lines) to the non-contracted Plus plan.  I then bought a BlackBerry Bold 9700 on a 20 month payment plan (interest free).  While I paid full price for the phone, I am only paying $20 a month for it.

My understanding is that this is how they do it in Europe, no contracts, no ETFs, no subsidized phones.  Makes sense to me.  

A company should earn my business, not force me to do business with them and when they deliver lousy service, force me through fines and penalties to stay with them.

IMHO Google showed its true colors with this phone and fees.  It ain&#039;t pretty.  I really feel like when dealing with Google I have to sleep with one eye open, so to speak, and after shaking its hand I have to count my fingers to make sure they are all still there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s bad business whenever a company imposes penalties and fines.  Last year banks made close to $50 billion in the very profitable overdraft fee industry.<br />
Credit card companies also made in the billions on over limit fines and late payment penalties.</p>
<p>I just think it&#8217;s the wrong message to send to consumers.  It&#8217;s a very short sighted way to do business, all in the name of profits.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t have a problem with carriers getting back the subsidized discount part of a phone purchase given to a customer, but that should be prorated over time and also include a further discount for depreciation.  If a carrier does not do this, then this is nothing different than a penalty or fine, the same as banks and credit card companies are imposing.</p>
<p>Personally, I like T-Mobile&#8217;s new Even More Plus plan.  I just moved from a loyalty, contracted plan (two lines) to the non-contracted Plus plan.  I then bought a BlackBerry Bold 9700 on a 20 month payment plan (interest free).  While I paid full price for the phone, I am only paying $20 a month for it.</p>
<p>My understanding is that this is how they do it in Europe, no contracts, no ETFs, no subsidized phones.  Makes sense to me.  </p>
<p>A company should earn my business, not force me to do business with them and when they deliver lousy service, force me through fines and penalties to stay with them.</p>
<p>IMHO Google showed its true colors with this phone and fees.  It ain&#8217;t pretty.  I really feel like when dealing with Google I have to sleep with one eye open, so to speak, and after shaking its hand I have to count my fingers to make sure they are all still there.</p>
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		<title>By: SalM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SalM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, doesn&#039;t that then mean you can grab it subsidized for $179, make account changes to merge the new account w/ a family plan, and at worst be hit w/ a $150 fee from Google, making the phone fee $329 in the end??

Why don&#039;t they just expand the upgrade options?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, doesn&#8217;t that then mean you can grab it subsidized for $179, make account changes to merge the new account w/ a family plan, and at worst be hit w/ a $150 fee from Google, making the phone fee $329 in the end??</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t they just expand the upgrade options?</p>
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