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		<title>By: huh</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/take-24-iphone-headed-to-t-mobile-this-summer/comment-page-2/#comment-261549</link>
		<dc:creator>huh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone no is phone 4 coming to tmobil or should i just buy a factory unlocked for like 100 buck more</description>
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		<title>By: Tina Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love T-Mobile for its rate plans and customer service but the phone choices are pitiful.  My husband just left our T-Mo family plan because his crackberry died and he wanted an iPhone.  We tried to buy an unlocked iPhone to keep him on our T-Mo family plan but the unlocked 16 and 32GB 3GS is difficult, if not impossible, to get immediately because it requires new unlocking software that is supposedly being developed but not available for a couple months.  His AT&amp;T contact costs us an additional $60 a month not to mention the purchase/activation costs and cancellation fee with T-Mo...OUCH!

If the iPhone comes to T-Mo this summer, I&#039;m all over it.  In my purse, I currently carry a Kindle (there&#039;s an app for that), a portable XM device (there&#039;s an app for that), an iPod, a camera, and of course a cell phone.  If the iPhone becomes available at T-Mo, I can stay with the carrier I love and carry ONE small, lightweight electronic device instead of five not so small and not so light devices.  I&#039;m keeping my fingers crossed for this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love T-Mobile for its rate plans and customer service but the phone choices are pitiful.  My husband just left our T-Mo family plan because his crackberry died and he wanted an iPhone.  We tried to buy an unlocked iPhone to keep him on our T-Mo family plan but the unlocked 16 and 32GB 3GS is difficult, if not impossible, to get immediately because it requires new unlocking software that is supposedly being developed but not available for a couple months.  His AT&amp;T contact costs us an additional $60 a month not to mention the purchase/activation costs and cancellation fee with T-Mo&#8230;OUCH!</p>
<p>If the iPhone comes to T-Mo this summer, I&#8217;m all over it.  In my purse, I currently carry a Kindle (there&#8217;s an app for that), a portable XM device (there&#8217;s an app for that), an iPod, a camera, and of course a cell phone.  If the iPhone becomes available at T-Mo, I can stay with the carrier I love and carry ONE small, lightweight electronic device instead of five not so small and not so light devices.  I&#8217;m keeping my fingers crossed for this one.</p>
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		<title>By: istvàn</title>
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		<dc:creator>istvàn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Mo just announced their &quot;4G&quot; coverage in Barcelona last week.</description>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning ladies and gentleman. I work for tmobile USA and I love the iPhone myself I&#039;m using it now to write this comment I&#039;m almost 90% sure that T-Mobile should get this by the summer which is going to be a huge addition to our line up. Also backing me up is someone on the inside who tells me t-mo is starting contract negotiations in feb 2010 with apple to secure a deal so let&#039;s sit tight and wait to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning ladies and gentleman. I work for tmobile USA and I love the iPhone myself I&#8217;m using it now to write this comment I&#8217;m almost 90% sure that T-Mobile should get this by the summer which is going to be a huge addition to our line up. Also backing me up is someone on the inside who tells me t-mo is starting contract negotiations in feb 2010 with apple to secure a deal so let&#8217;s sit tight and wait to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: browntwist</title>
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		<dc:creator>browntwist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering going for the nexus one, but shelling out 560 for the phone, with barely thier customer service just doesn&#039;t seem that ideal for me. I always wanted an iphone, but because it doesn&#039;t work on t mobiles 3g network, never got it. but if tmobile goes pick up the iphone, and puts it on its network, and sells it themselves, then i will definitely buy it. seems to me that i would be a smart move on apples part to go ahead and open contracts with tmobile and verizon, that would effectively even out any head way that android gained with the new nexus phone... so far iphone has been out a lot longer so more apps, software has been tested for over two years, and will probably cost less than android.. and lets not forget more accessories.. so if google wants to go ahead and fuck around with customers with those prices and price plan requirements, ill just wait until tmobile piss up a phone that i can get discounted on contract with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering going for the nexus one, but shelling out 560 for the phone, with barely thier customer service just doesn&#8217;t seem that ideal for me. I always wanted an iphone, but because it doesn&#8217;t work on t mobiles 3g network, never got it. but if tmobile goes pick up the iphone, and puts it on its network, and sells it themselves, then i will definitely buy it. seems to me that i would be a smart move on apples part to go ahead and open contracts with tmobile and verizon, that would effectively even out any head way that android gained with the new nexus phone&#8230; so far iphone has been out a lot longer so more apps, software has been tested for over two years, and will probably cost less than android.. and lets not forget more accessories.. so if google wants to go ahead and fuck around with customers with those prices and price plan requirements, ill just wait until tmobile piss up a phone that i can get discounted on contract with them.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the phones are a store&#039;s stock and trade I can&#039;t imagine any U. S. store not having a complete line of phones for demo.  There&#039;s something wrong with the store you visited and they need to get them in shape.  That&#039;s ridiculous.  I hope that was not a corporate store and instead a dealer.

I went into a San Francisco corporate store and they had maybe 100 phones on display, all working.  And by that I mean &quot;hot&quot; with the capability of going on the net if one wanted to.

While they had Android phones, the store separated displays into sections, mostly by models, with the hot sellers or featured models having a prominent section.  

Of course, by the doors were the BlackBerry models, myTouch, HTC, and a couple others.  Along the wall were 30 or so Samsung and other &quot;ho hum&quot; models (phones I did not know existed, like some phone a frog would own, a green phone that will save the environment if you buy and use it.  Actually, my sister bought it and I had to go look at it so I could see what she got.  I digress, forgive me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the phones are a store&#8217;s stock and trade I can&#8217;t imagine any U. S. store not having a complete line of phones for demo.  There&#8217;s something wrong with the store you visited and they need to get them in shape.  That&#8217;s ridiculous.  I hope that was not a corporate store and instead a dealer.</p>
<p>I went into a San Francisco corporate store and they had maybe 100 phones on display, all working.  And by that I mean &#8220;hot&#8221; with the capability of going on the net if one wanted to.</p>
<p>While they had Android phones, the store separated displays into sections, mostly by models, with the hot sellers or featured models having a prominent section.  </p>
<p>Of course, by the doors were the BlackBerry models, myTouch, HTC, and a couple others.  Along the wall were 30 or so Samsung and other &#8220;ho hum&#8221; models (phones I did not know existed, like some phone a frog would own, a green phone that will save the environment if you buy and use it.  Actually, my sister bought it and I had to go look at it so I could see what she got.  I digress, forgive me.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a tech journal article that discusses handset sales last quarter.  This is what people in the know talk about, that is, rather than fanboy statements about the iPhone this, iPhone that.  

Do you see iPhone mentioned anywhere in there?  Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s time to stop putting the iPhone on a pedestal. ;)
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An estimate of 336.5 million handsets were shipped in fourth-quarter 2009, up 15.1% on quarter, said Jake Saunders, VP for forecasting at ABI Research. Competition continued to squeeze handset ASPs. In fourth-quarter 2009, shipment-based ASPs were down 2% to US$117.55, the research firm added.

&quot;Obama&#039;s stimulus package certainly helped save the mobile handset industry,&quot; Saunders noted. &quot;Renewed consumer confidence in the second half of 2009 meant that shipments for the whole year only shrank 4.5% to 1.153 billion. Dire scenarios were mooted in early 2009. There is cautious optimism about 2010 despite the fragile nature of the global recovery. ABI Research forecasts shipments to expand to 1.2 billion handsets in 2010.&quot;

Despite Nokia&#039;s weakened position in the smartphone segment, it still managed to maintain 37.7% of the overall handset market. 

Samsung Electronics, the market-share juggernaut, seems unstoppable. Between June 2008 and December 2009, Samsung increased its market share from 15.2% to 20.5%. Samsung has benefited from a strong line-up of feature phones as well as a strong reputation for innovative smartphones. 

Korea&#039;s level of influence over the handset market is further underscored by LG Electronics (LGE), the third-largest handset vendor (10.1%). LGE has been counting on its S-Class smartphone series to help it secure a bridgehead in the market.

&quot;In third-quarter 2009, Motorola, under the direction of Sanjay Jha, has come out of its corner fighting with a refreshed portfolio,&quot; added practice director Kevin Burden. &quot;The Droid has received critical acclaim. However Motorola&#039;s market share continued to contract to 3.6%.&quot; 

Sony Ericsson also experienced a contraction to 4.3% but has high hopes that its Android-based handsets will generate renewed interest.

High Tech Computer (HTC)&#039;s market share did not fare well early last year, but its circumstances improved slightly in the fourth quarter, to 1.0% share. Notably, HTC announced a revamped handset portfolio strategy, not just targeting high-end smartphones but also launching smartphones that appeal to purchasers with smaller wallets. These low cost &quot;HTC Smart&quot; devices will rely on BREW.

Lastly, based on conjecture, rumor and fanboy blog comments, and with no hard data, iPhone was mentioned on T-MoNews as possibly coming to T-Mobile in 2010.  If that happens, the market will be affected by .0000000000001%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a tech journal article that discusses handset sales last quarter.  This is what people in the know talk about, that is, rather than fanboy statements about the iPhone this, iPhone that.  </p>
<p>Do you see iPhone mentioned anywhere in there?  Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s time to stop putting the iPhone on a pedestal. ;)<br />
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<p>An estimate of 336.5 million handsets were shipped in fourth-quarter 2009, up 15.1% on quarter, said Jake Saunders, VP for forecasting at ABI Research. Competition continued to squeeze handset ASPs. In fourth-quarter 2009, shipment-based ASPs were down 2% to US$117.55, the research firm added.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama&#8217;s stimulus package certainly helped save the mobile handset industry,&#8221; Saunders noted. &#8220;Renewed consumer confidence in the second half of 2009 meant that shipments for the whole year only shrank 4.5% to 1.153 billion. Dire scenarios were mooted in early 2009. There is cautious optimism about 2010 despite the fragile nature of the global recovery. ABI Research forecasts shipments to expand to 1.2 billion handsets in 2010.&#8221;</p>
<p>Despite Nokia&#8217;s weakened position in the smartphone segment, it still managed to maintain 37.7% of the overall handset market. </p>
<p>Samsung Electronics, the market-share juggernaut, seems unstoppable. Between June 2008 and December 2009, Samsung increased its market share from 15.2% to 20.5%. Samsung has benefited from a strong line-up of feature phones as well as a strong reputation for innovative smartphones. </p>
<p>Korea&#8217;s level of influence over the handset market is further underscored by LG Electronics (LGE), the third-largest handset vendor (10.1%). LGE has been counting on its S-Class smartphone series to help it secure a bridgehead in the market.</p>
<p>&#8220;In third-quarter 2009, Motorola, under the direction of Sanjay Jha, has come out of its corner fighting with a refreshed portfolio,&#8221; added practice director Kevin Burden. &#8220;The Droid has received critical acclaim. However Motorola&#8217;s market share continued to contract to 3.6%.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sony Ericsson also experienced a contraction to 4.3% but has high hopes that its Android-based handsets will generate renewed interest.</p>
<p>High Tech Computer (HTC)&#8217;s market share did not fare well early last year, but its circumstances improved slightly in the fourth quarter, to 1.0% share. Notably, HTC announced a revamped handset portfolio strategy, not just targeting high-end smartphones but also launching smartphones that appeal to purchasers with smaller wallets. These low cost &#8220;HTC Smart&#8221; devices will rely on BREW.</p>
<p>Lastly, based on conjecture, rumor and fanboy blog comments, and with no hard data, iPhone was mentioned on T-MoNews as possibly coming to T-Mobile in 2010.  If that happens, the market will be affected by .0000000000001%</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great comments in here, especially Houston&#039;s post.  Nice to see real comments other than people calling each other names or simply posting cheer leading comments that add nothing to the discussion.

Jürgen... you are correct about the Nexus phone, HTC said that it would not make any more phones for &quot;non-carriers&quot; like Google.  It does not want the hassles and said to Asian tech press that it will only make phones for carriers from now on (to be sure, that&#039;s more profitable). 

So the Nexus One is the only phone Google will be getting from HTC. Google will most likely be getting the &quot;Nexus xx&quot; from Motorola, and it will be a QWERTY physical keyboard model.

And ditto about those who said the iPhone won&#039;t be going to T-Mobile.  The fact remains that there are only so many iPhone users out there.  Contrary to fanboy posts, last year a billion handsets were sold, check to see how many of those were iPhones.  And people are deluded if they think that the only reason everyone does not have an iPhone is because AT&amp;T has the exclusive.  (I duly note that when the iPhone debuted in 2007, and to 2008, that T-Mo lost customers who defected to AT&amp;T to get the iPhone.  

But those days are over and proportional to total handset sales, the number is not significant enough have T-Mo begging Apple for the rights to sell the iPhone and I don&#039;t think carriers are chomping at the bit to get the iPhone.  (And remember, Verizon turned down Apple to sell the iPhone, back in 2006. I have not read anything that says Verizon regretted that decision.)

Besides, the iPhone is not all that great a phone if you stop to think about it.  Let&#039;s take one small example.  RIM and carriers agreed that the trackball had to go because it was a very expensive proposition to honor the warranty claims being made because of trackball malfunctions.  Fact is, carriers were getting a lot of trackball phones returned because, for example, there was something as simple as lint preventing the trackball from working correctly.

Now look at the iPhone.  It has a battery that cannot be replaced by the user. (Not unless the user wants to void the warranty.)  So carriers and/or Apple have had to go through the same cost intensive warranty claims if they intended to replace the battery under warranty, a move just as expensive as it was for RIM and the carriers to honor trackball claims.  And of course iPhone users have to initially do battle when making a battery warranty claim since Apple only covers defects in material and workmanship, a near impossible thing to prove more than a few months into iPhone ownership. 

Anyway, carriers pay attention to the cost of honoring a warranty and pencil out things like this when determining which phones to carry.  A carrier&#039;s goal is to sell services (talk and now data), not hassle with phone warranty claims.  Plus faulty phones = unhappy customers.

There&#039;s also Houston&#039;s comment above that touches on many other problems with the iPhone.  I agree with those and also point out that there&#039;s many people (like myself) who will never buy an Apple product because they are guilty of planned obsolescence, just like American car makers practiced in the 50&#039;s through the eighties.  (Now look where those 40 years of abusing consumers got American car makers, out of business, bankrupt or struggling).

For those of you who don&#039;t know what this means, in a nutshell it&#039;s where a company designs a product so that it becomes outdated, wears out or breaks down, after so many years, this so you are forced to buy a newer product.  With cars, manufacturers could build a car like a tank, but they didn&#039;t because then you would not buy a new car for five to ten years, rather than three.  (Ever wonder where the three year, 36,000 mile warranty standard came from?  It was from the scheme to convince people mentally and mechanically that they need a new car in three years.)

What bugs me about Apple is that they are so arrogant and blatant about planned obsolescence.  For example, every other phone out there has a microSD slot.  My T-Mobile Touch Pro2 can handle a 32GB microSD chip.  But Apple, nope, if you want more gigabytes you have to pay more money for the device with more memory.

And next year if they come out with a 32GB iPhone, you can have one, for full price, of course.  

Apple continues planned obsolescence with the iPad. So not to conflict with iPhone sales, they make sure it does not have a web camera nor cell phone capabilities.  (This fact alone caused me to label the iPad a &quot;deluxe portable picture frame).

To make sure you have to buy an iPad with more memory, once again the iPad, like the iPhone, does not have a memory slot.  Nope, you want more memory, you can pay $100 more for each doubling of memory.  ($500 = 16GB; $600 32GB; $700 64GB).

Sidenote:  What kind of bullsheet is that, that Apple is getting away with.  Build a device without a $10 memory slot, then force people to pay more to get more memory? That is so 1990s.

This all leads me to believe that it&#039;s only Apple fanboys and the news-story-starved media who think the iPhone is so great and that everyone wants one.  That&#039;s just not true.

Bottom line, I suspect T-Mo could care less if they get the iPhone or not.  If anything, they might like to add it to the lineup so it can appeal to anyone and everyone in the market for a smartphone, but no one is thinking the iPhone is the must have phone or that it will save the day for slumping handset sales.

While it&#039;s true that Apple has saved itself from the precipice or brink, Apple still remains a small player in the computer world and the iPad will show they are just like other companies, hit or miss with product debuts.

IMHO, the iPhone is dead.  It&#039;s run its course and unless Apple comes out with something radically different, the market for iPhones has become saturated.  So much so that any new carrier selling the iPhone is not going to realize a surge in handset sales.

Do any Apple fans posting in here have any figures, stats or numbers to support a proposition that if T-Mo gets the iPhone that it will sell well?  (Just because YOU like the iPhone does not count.)  

I&#039;d be curious the response if T-Mo asked every one of its customers if they would want the iPhone, if T-Mo got it. While I am sure T-Mo suffered a slight exodus when the iPhone debuted (as all carriers did), this June the iPhone will have been out three years.  Is there anything revolutionary about the iPhone (even upcoming iterations) that would indicate significant numbers of new iPhone customers? IMHO I don&#039;t think there are.

Have to run, no time to grammar and spell check.   I always make them. So pardon in advance for my errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great comments in here, especially Houston&#8217;s post.  Nice to see real comments other than people calling each other names or simply posting cheer leading comments that add nothing to the discussion.</p>
<p>Jürgen&#8230; you are correct about the Nexus phone, HTC said that it would not make any more phones for &#8220;non-carriers&#8221; like Google.  It does not want the hassles and said to Asian tech press that it will only make phones for carriers from now on (to be sure, that&#8217;s more profitable). </p>
<p>So the Nexus One is the only phone Google will be getting from HTC. Google will most likely be getting the &#8220;Nexus xx&#8221; from Motorola, and it will be a QWERTY physical keyboard model.</p>
<p>And ditto about those who said the iPhone won&#8217;t be going to T-Mobile.  The fact remains that there are only so many iPhone users out there.  Contrary to fanboy posts, last year a billion handsets were sold, check to see how many of those were iPhones.  And people are deluded if they think that the only reason everyone does not have an iPhone is because AT&amp;T has the exclusive.  (I duly note that when the iPhone debuted in 2007, and to 2008, that T-Mo lost customers who defected to AT&amp;T to get the iPhone.  </p>
<p>But those days are over and proportional to total handset sales, the number is not significant enough have T-Mo begging Apple for the rights to sell the iPhone and I don&#8217;t think carriers are chomping at the bit to get the iPhone.  (And remember, Verizon turned down Apple to sell the iPhone, back in 2006. I have not read anything that says Verizon regretted that decision.)</p>
<p>Besides, the iPhone is not all that great a phone if you stop to think about it.  Let&#8217;s take one small example.  RIM and carriers agreed that the trackball had to go because it was a very expensive proposition to honor the warranty claims being made because of trackball malfunctions.  Fact is, carriers were getting a lot of trackball phones returned because, for example, there was something as simple as lint preventing the trackball from working correctly.</p>
<p>Now look at the iPhone.  It has a battery that cannot be replaced by the user. (Not unless the user wants to void the warranty.)  So carriers and/or Apple have had to go through the same cost intensive warranty claims if they intended to replace the battery under warranty, a move just as expensive as it was for RIM and the carriers to honor trackball claims.  And of course iPhone users have to initially do battle when making a battery warranty claim since Apple only covers defects in material and workmanship, a near impossible thing to prove more than a few months into iPhone ownership. </p>
<p>Anyway, carriers pay attention to the cost of honoring a warranty and pencil out things like this when determining which phones to carry.  A carrier&#8217;s goal is to sell services (talk and now data), not hassle with phone warranty claims.  Plus faulty phones = unhappy customers.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also Houston&#8217;s comment above that touches on many other problems with the iPhone.  I agree with those and also point out that there&#8217;s many people (like myself) who will never buy an Apple product because they are guilty of planned obsolescence, just like American car makers practiced in the 50&#8242;s through the eighties.  (Now look where those 40 years of abusing consumers got American car makers, out of business, bankrupt or struggling).</p>
<p>For those of you who don&#8217;t know what this means, in a nutshell it&#8217;s where a company designs a product so that it becomes outdated, wears out or breaks down, after so many years, this so you are forced to buy a newer product.  With cars, manufacturers could build a car like a tank, but they didn&#8217;t because then you would not buy a new car for five to ten years, rather than three.  (Ever wonder where the three year, 36,000 mile warranty standard came from?  It was from the scheme to convince people mentally and mechanically that they need a new car in three years.)</p>
<p>What bugs me about Apple is that they are so arrogant and blatant about planned obsolescence.  For example, every other phone out there has a microSD slot.  My T-Mobile Touch Pro2 can handle a 32GB microSD chip.  But Apple, nope, if you want more gigabytes you have to pay more money for the device with more memory.</p>
<p>And next year if they come out with a 32GB iPhone, you can have one, for full price, of course.  </p>
<p>Apple continues planned obsolescence with the iPad. So not to conflict with iPhone sales, they make sure it does not have a web camera nor cell phone capabilities.  (This fact alone caused me to label the iPad a &#8220;deluxe portable picture frame).</p>
<p>To make sure you have to buy an iPad with more memory, once again the iPad, like the iPhone, does not have a memory slot.  Nope, you want more memory, you can pay $100 more for each doubling of memory.  ($500 = 16GB; $600 32GB; $700 64GB).</p>
<p>Sidenote:  What kind of bullsheet is that, that Apple is getting away with.  Build a device without a $10 memory slot, then force people to pay more to get more memory? That is so 1990s.</p>
<p>This all leads me to believe that it&#8217;s only Apple fanboys and the news-story-starved media who think the iPhone is so great and that everyone wants one.  That&#8217;s just not true.</p>
<p>Bottom line, I suspect T-Mo could care less if they get the iPhone or not.  If anything, they might like to add it to the lineup so it can appeal to anyone and everyone in the market for a smartphone, but no one is thinking the iPhone is the must have phone or that it will save the day for slumping handset sales.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s true that Apple has saved itself from the precipice or brink, Apple still remains a small player in the computer world and the iPad will show they are just like other companies, hit or miss with product debuts.</p>
<p>IMHO, the iPhone is dead.  It&#8217;s run its course and unless Apple comes out with something radically different, the market for iPhones has become saturated.  So much so that any new carrier selling the iPhone is not going to realize a surge in handset sales.</p>
<p>Do any Apple fans posting in here have any figures, stats or numbers to support a proposition that if T-Mo gets the iPhone that it will sell well?  (Just because YOU like the iPhone does not count.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious the response if T-Mo asked every one of its customers if they would want the iPhone, if T-Mo got it. While I am sure T-Mo suffered a slight exodus when the iPhone debuted (as all carriers did), this June the iPhone will have been out three years.  Is there anything revolutionary about the iPhone (even upcoming iterations) that would indicate significant numbers of new iPhone customers? IMHO I don&#8217;t think there are.</p>
<p>Have to run, no time to grammar and spell check.   I always make them. So pardon in advance for my errors.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was once a time that would of made me so happy. I say great but I got a n1 and I ain&#039;t giving it up..android rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was once a time that would of made me so happy. I say great but I got a n1 and I ain&#8217;t giving it up..android rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jürgen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jürgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just got done speaking with my T-Mo contact.. he&#039;s rather certain the iPhone is not coming to T-Mobile USA. If anyone is getting the iPhone soon, it will be Verizon. He also said while they originally thought they&#039;d get the Nexus One 90 days after launch, Google seems to be dead set on marketing it them selves even if it means dismal sales. He also mentioned that Google is working on another phone which also will not be sold by carriers. But this time it will also be sold and supported by the manufacturer along with Google.

so for now.. the iPhone and iPad are staying with ATT in the USA, just like the iPhone and iPad are staying with T-Mobile in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just got done speaking with my T-Mo contact.. he&#8217;s rather certain the iPhone is not coming to T-Mobile USA. If anyone is getting the iPhone soon, it will be Verizon. He also said while they originally thought they&#8217;d get the Nexus One 90 days after launch, Google seems to be dead set on marketing it them selves even if it means dismal sales. He also mentioned that Google is working on another phone which also will not be sold by carriers. But this time it will also be sold and supported by the manufacturer along with Google.</p>
<p>so for now.. the iPhone and iPad are staying with ATT in the USA, just like the iPhone and iPad are staying with T-Mobile in Europe.</p>
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