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		<title>By: galen</title>
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		<dc:creator>galen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you wouldn&#039;t care about a physical qwerty keyboard if you had swype. I downloaded swype on my mt3g and it&#039;s an incredibly fast and beautiful software program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you wouldn&#8217;t care about a physical qwerty keyboard if you had swype. I downloaded swype on my mt3g and it&#8217;s an incredibly fast and beautiful software program.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, nice post. Very informative.  But it is not relevant to the 99.9% of the consumers who HTC, Google, MS, Android and others are selling to.

All the consumers knows is what looks sharp, cool, and is fun to operate.  

I have a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 running 6.5.1 and the HTC Sense user interface.  Everyone who sees it loves it and is envious. And here in downtown San Francisco there are thousands of people using the latest &quot;cool&quot; or &quot;fashionable&quot; phones.

None of them give a rip about WinMo, Android, Palm, or whatever.  In fact, as I said before, stop 1000 people on a street corner using a phone, 995 of them would not be able to tell you what OS the phone has.  But they will tell you &quot;Oh it has this cool little icon I press and I can get e-mail quite fast.&quot;

Truth is the public does not know which phones are in the pipeline and which phones have which specs.  But they can tell you that Droid commercials are cool and they heard something on the news about a Google phone (which is not really a Google phone anyway, it&#039;s an HTC phone. And one has to wonder where Google will go to get their next phone since HTC said they won&#039;t make phones in that kind of relationship, again. They want to sell to carriers.  I digress).

What carriers have to deal with is a real nightmare because none know which will be the next big phone to capture the consumer&#039;s interest, so that they will go to one carrier over another.

And then there&#039;s the war.  Not the one overseas in the Middle East, but the price war over talk, data and handsets.  ATT and Verizon are going at it and T-Mo and Sprint have to somehow get the consumers attention rather than the public thinking only the big two have great prices.

But like anyone, I have no sympathy about this war.  I predicted over a year ago that it was coming and now that it&#039;s here I intend to enjoy the spoils.  To be sure, I have paid all the carriers probably $200,000 since 1989, so I have no problem playing the part of a gypsy, so to speak.

As to the HD2, that phone is going to be the next big deal. I measure a phone&#039;s debut on how much it is in the news.  I suspect that T-Mo has a big splash planned for that phone.  Should be fun, especially since I am buying one.  

Heck, anything will be a bigger splash than when I bought the TP2.  All there was on that phone was a few press releases in business journals.  That was the biggest non-event I have ever seen for a phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, nice post. Very informative.  But it is not relevant to the 99.9% of the consumers who HTC, Google, MS, Android and others are selling to.</p>
<p>All the consumers knows is what looks sharp, cool, and is fun to operate.  </p>
<p>I have a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 running 6.5.1 and the HTC Sense user interface.  Everyone who sees it loves it and is envious. And here in downtown San Francisco there are thousands of people using the latest &#8220;cool&#8221; or &#8220;fashionable&#8221; phones.</p>
<p>None of them give a rip about WinMo, Android, Palm, or whatever.  In fact, as I said before, stop 1000 people on a street corner using a phone, 995 of them would not be able to tell you what OS the phone has.  But they will tell you &#8220;Oh it has this cool little icon I press and I can get e-mail quite fast.&#8221;</p>
<p>Truth is the public does not know which phones are in the pipeline and which phones have which specs.  But they can tell you that Droid commercials are cool and they heard something on the news about a Google phone (which is not really a Google phone anyway, it&#8217;s an HTC phone. And one has to wonder where Google will go to get their next phone since HTC said they won&#8217;t make phones in that kind of relationship, again. They want to sell to carriers.  I digress).</p>
<p>What carriers have to deal with is a real nightmare because none know which will be the next big phone to capture the consumer&#8217;s interest, so that they will go to one carrier over another.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the war.  Not the one overseas in the Middle East, but the price war over talk, data and handsets.  ATT and Verizon are going at it and T-Mo and Sprint have to somehow get the consumers attention rather than the public thinking only the big two have great prices.</p>
<p>But like anyone, I have no sympathy about this war.  I predicted over a year ago that it was coming and now that it&#8217;s here I intend to enjoy the spoils.  To be sure, I have paid all the carriers probably $200,000 since 1989, so I have no problem playing the part of a gypsy, so to speak.</p>
<p>As to the HD2, that phone is going to be the next big deal. I measure a phone&#8217;s debut on how much it is in the news.  I suspect that T-Mo has a big splash planned for that phone.  Should be fun, especially since I am buying one.  </p>
<p>Heck, anything will be a bigger splash than when I bought the TP2.  All there was on that phone was a few press releases in business journals.  That was the biggest non-event I have ever seen for a phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys guys stop getting overexcited for the Espresso, it&#039;s not even a great or next gen(or even current gen?) phone...its outdated and half a year too late. it has the same CPU has the G1/MT3G/CLIQ...all it is is a MT3G/G1 with a better keyboard and Android 2.1.

i&#039;m a huge physical keyboard person myself and I still have a G1 and didn&#039;t get the CLIQ because of its horrible keyboard but no ****in way I would get the Espresso over the Nexus One, no way. The N1 is so much better it&#039;s not even funny, the Espresso is like a kid&#039;s toy compared to the N1 and so last year. The HD2 is going to be amazing but idk since it&#039;s running WinMo...maybe I&#039;ll check out WinMo and see if I can deal with it compared to Android...but idk, it&#039;s going to be hard for anything to get me away from Android or to be better than it.

As for the Bravo, it&#039;s the same **** as the Nexus One, except the N1 is out already and you can get it the next day now if you order it. The Nexus One is better, easily. Wanna know why? It&#039;s Google&#039;s flagship phone, that&#039;s first. So what does that mean? All the Android updates, and the fastest. It&#039;ll be the first phone to get any Android 2.2 or higher versions unless an Android phone releases with that first. Even if one does the Nexus One will be the FIRST phone to get an update to the latest version of Android because like I said, it basically is Google/Android...the HTC Bravo is going to be running HTC&#039;s Sense UI. Not only is it going to be HTC first who haven&#039;t been that great delivering updates, but it&#039;s going to be running their Sense UI, which isn&#039;t better than vanilla Android IMO and it alone is going to take up a lot of time to code over for the newest Android version. So what does that mean? It ties in with my first point, you&#039;re going to have to wait a WHILE to get the latest Android version on your Bravo, if you get it at all...check out the Hero, it&#039;s been out since November of last year and **** still is running on 1.5...we on our G1&#039;s and MT3G&#039;s already have 1.6, the Droid is the only phone with 2.0 and the Nexus One(once again Google&#039;s flagship device) is in a league of it&#039;s own and has 2.1. This is where the Espresso and Bravo will be lacking, Sense UI is actually a deterrent for them at the end of the day...it prevents fast Android updates to be released to them, if at all. The Nexus One will get all the updates and the fastest, it&#039;ll no doubt be supported for a long while. 

I&#039;m gonna get the Nexus One this week because it&#039;s no doubt worth it and the best smartphone out right now and prolly will be for a while until an Android version of the HD2 comes out. If WinMo is good enough for me tho...who knows then maybe I&#039;ll switch to the HD2.

I&#039;ll def switch to the Android version of HD2 whenever it comes out tho even if I have a Nexus One.

How about Sprint tho? Yall hear they&#039;re getting an Android version of the HD2 with WiMAX radio built in to it later this year? There&#039;s no release window yet but that&#039;s ****in awesome, that&#039;s everything we all wanted. I don&#039;t see myself leaving T-Mo anytime in the near future but I&#039;ll be the first to say that if Sprint does get an Android HD2 with WiMAX even if WiMAX is in my area or not because their 3G is pretty good and is in my area and if that Android HD2 doesn&#039;t go to T-Mo soon too or is already out for them I&#039;d prolly switch to Sprint and get that Android HD2 right away. I love T-Mo tho, amazing phones and amazing prices and excellent coverage and speed for me and great customer service and GSM, I can upgrade my phone or get a new one whenever I want cause of SIM cards, they&#039;re great, hate CDMA...but that&#039;s the phone everyone wants...a 4.3&quot; Snapdragon Android phone...Android version of the HD2...amazing. It&#039;ll obviously be beat soon by a Tegra 2 Android phone tho, prolly with Android 2.2+ and maybe a 4&quot;+ screen too or a 3.7&quot;+ screen with a physical keyboard. =p That&#039;s how technology goes, I love it. Good thing I can save up money to get these nice phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys guys stop getting overexcited for the Espresso, it&#8217;s not even a great or next gen(or even current gen?) phone&#8230;its outdated and half a year too late. it has the same CPU has the G1/MT3G/CLIQ&#8230;all it is is a MT3G/G1 with a better keyboard and Android 2.1.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m a huge physical keyboard person myself and I still have a G1 and didn&#8217;t get the CLIQ because of its horrible keyboard but no ****in way I would get the Espresso over the Nexus One, no way. The N1 is so much better it&#8217;s not even funny, the Espresso is like a kid&#8217;s toy compared to the N1 and so last year. The HD2 is going to be amazing but idk since it&#8217;s running WinMo&#8230;maybe I&#8217;ll check out WinMo and see if I can deal with it compared to Android&#8230;but idk, it&#8217;s going to be hard for anything to get me away from Android or to be better than it.</p>
<p>As for the Bravo, it&#8217;s the same **** as the Nexus One, except the N1 is out already and you can get it the next day now if you order it. The Nexus One is better, easily. Wanna know why? It&#8217;s Google&#8217;s flagship phone, that&#8217;s first. So what does that mean? All the Android updates, and the fastest. It&#8217;ll be the first phone to get any Android 2.2 or higher versions unless an Android phone releases with that first. Even if one does the Nexus One will be the FIRST phone to get an update to the latest version of Android because like I said, it basically is Google/Android&#8230;the HTC Bravo is going to be running HTC&#8217;s Sense UI. Not only is it going to be HTC first who haven&#8217;t been that great delivering updates, but it&#8217;s going to be running their Sense UI, which isn&#8217;t better than vanilla Android IMO and it alone is going to take up a lot of time to code over for the newest Android version. So what does that mean? It ties in with my first point, you&#8217;re going to have to wait a WHILE to get the latest Android version on your Bravo, if you get it at all&#8230;check out the Hero, it&#8217;s been out since November of last year and **** still is running on 1.5&#8230;we on our G1&#8242;s and MT3G&#8217;s already have 1.6, the Droid is the only phone with 2.0 and the Nexus One(once again Google&#8217;s flagship device) is in a league of it&#8217;s own and has 2.1. This is where the Espresso and Bravo will be lacking, Sense UI is actually a deterrent for them at the end of the day&#8230;it prevents fast Android updates to be released to them, if at all. The Nexus One will get all the updates and the fastest, it&#8217;ll no doubt be supported for a long while. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna get the Nexus One this week because it&#8217;s no doubt worth it and the best smartphone out right now and prolly will be for a while until an Android version of the HD2 comes out. If WinMo is good enough for me tho&#8230;who knows then maybe I&#8217;ll switch to the HD2.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll def switch to the Android version of HD2 whenever it comes out tho even if I have a Nexus One.</p>
<p>How about Sprint tho? Yall hear they&#8217;re getting an Android version of the HD2 with WiMAX radio built in to it later this year? There&#8217;s no release window yet but that&#8217;s ****in awesome, that&#8217;s everything we all wanted. I don&#8217;t see myself leaving T-Mo anytime in the near future but I&#8217;ll be the first to say that if Sprint does get an Android HD2 with WiMAX even if WiMAX is in my area or not because their 3G is pretty good and is in my area and if that Android HD2 doesn&#8217;t go to T-Mo soon too or is already out for them I&#8217;d prolly switch to Sprint and get that Android HD2 right away. I love T-Mo tho, amazing phones and amazing prices and excellent coverage and speed for me and great customer service and GSM, I can upgrade my phone or get a new one whenever I want cause of SIM cards, they&#8217;re great, hate CDMA&#8230;but that&#8217;s the phone everyone wants&#8230;a 4.3&#8243; Snapdragon Android phone&#8230;Android version of the HD2&#8230;amazing. It&#8217;ll obviously be beat soon by a Tegra 2 Android phone tho, prolly with Android 2.2+ and maybe a 4&#8243;+ screen too or a 3.7&#8243;+ screen with a physical keyboard. =p That&#8217;s how technology goes, I love it. Good thing I can save up money to get these nice phones.</p>
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		<title>By: FILA</title>
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		<dc:creator>FILA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOLY CHRIST NOODLES

Well Ive been saying all along for the G1v2 to get released and well this is kinda like it. The MyTouch2 aka slide, jeeze, if this is true, they better put a snapdragon in that damn phone. If they do that with all the goodies the N1 has, they have a buy from me, now I cant wait till fucking MAY!!!! PLEASSSE hopefully some screen leaks sometime soon, oh my god</description>
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<p>Well Ive been saying all along for the G1v2 to get released and well this is kinda like it. The MyTouch2 aka slide, jeeze, if this is true, they better put a snapdragon in that damn phone. If they do that with all the goodies the N1 has, they have a buy from me, now I cant wait till fucking MAY!!!! PLEASSSE hopefully some screen leaks sometime soon, oh my god</p>
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		<title>By: Y314K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y314K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it... Seems it&#039;s going to be a Hero speed phone showing up a year late...  Guess in true TMobile fashion...  A full snapdragon phone won&#039;t show up in TMobile till the end of 2010...  That sucks...  Nexus One doesn&#039;t count...  Since only one plan is available...  And no Family Plan..

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/05/leaked-profile-information-reveals-initial-details-on-the-htc-espresso/

&quot;According to the profile details, the Espresso will have the standard 528MHz processor found in the Hero/Magic, a QWERTY keyboard and a 320×480 display. HTC Espresso = a QWERTY keyboard-packing Hero, any takers?&quot;

No point in the age of SnapDragon &amp; Tegra 2...  Hopefully they will up those specs...  If not...  Guess the best Android options for TMobile will be the Nexus One which is not a TMobile phone just a fully Tmobile compatible phone...  or if we get lucky there might be another not TMobile but TMobile 3G friendly Archos Phone Tablet with HD2 screen size...

http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-imminent-by-case-manufacturer-1469828/

http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-1ghz-android-4-3-inch-smartphone-1656798/

Guess we should know before the end of February...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it&#8230; Seems it&#8217;s going to be a Hero speed phone showing up a year late&#8230;  Guess in true TMobile fashion&#8230;  A full snapdragon phone won&#8217;t show up in TMobile till the end of 2010&#8230;  That sucks&#8230;  Nexus One doesn&#8217;t count&#8230;  Since only one plan is available&#8230;  And no Family Plan..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/05/leaked-profile-information-reveals-initial-details-on-the-htc-espresso/" >http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/05/leaked-profile-information-reveals-initial-details-on-the-htc-espresso/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;According to the profile details, the Espresso will have the standard 528MHz processor found in the Hero/Magic, a QWERTY keyboard and a 320×480 display. HTC Espresso = a QWERTY keyboard-packing Hero, any takers?&#8221;</p>
<p>No point in the age of SnapDragon &amp; Tegra 2&#8230;  Hopefully they will up those specs&#8230;  If not&#8230;  Guess the best Android options for TMobile will be the Nexus One which is not a TMobile phone just a fully Tmobile compatible phone&#8230;  or if we get lucky there might be another not TMobile but TMobile 3G friendly Archos Phone Tablet with HD2 screen size&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-imminent-by-case-manufacturer-1469828/" >http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-imminent-by-case-manufacturer-1469828/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-1ghz-android-4-3-inch-smartphone-1656798/" >http://www.slashgear.com/archos-phone-tablet-tipped-1ghz-android-4-3-inch-smartphone-1656798/</a></p>
<p>Guess we should know before the end of February&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Y314K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y314K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...  Dave has gotten a couple of Q2 MyTouchv2 May 17th emails...

Is the Q4 G1v2 you heard about a different set then the MyTouchv2 Dave has heard about... Since they are so similar in specs I think of them as the same phone.. Just one with a keyboard and one without...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;  Dave has gotten a couple of Q2 MyTouchv2 May 17th emails&#8230;</p>
<p>Is the Q4 G1v2 you heard about a different set then the MyTouchv2 Dave has heard about&#8230; Since they are so similar in specs I think of them as the same phone.. Just one with a keyboard and one without&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The part of the Merging is possible and reasonable but sounds very unlikely. And I agree T-Mobile looks on track in 2010 HTC HD2 already announced, Windows 6.5 released, Nexus One, Garmin phone coming to the spotlight, Nokia and T-Mobile look like they are becoming good friends, LG and T-Mobile look to be talking phones, HTC and T-Mobile are becoming good friends, and Motorola looks to be a good suspense movie after some T-Mobile employee asked a Motorola worker if T-mobile was getting the Droid he looked at the employee and smiled and people assumed that that means yes. This year looks good but T-Mobile should look into Lenovo phones and sign an exclusive deal for the USA. Motorola did say when they launched the Motorola Cliq that there is more android Motorola devices coming T-mobile&#039;s ways so the Droid and the Droid Tablet looks very possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part of the Merging is possible and reasonable but sounds very unlikely. And I agree T-Mobile looks on track in 2010 HTC HD2 already announced, Windows 6.5 released, Nexus One, Garmin phone coming to the spotlight, Nokia and T-Mobile look like they are becoming good friends, LG and T-Mobile look to be talking phones, HTC and T-Mobile are becoming good friends, and Motorola looks to be a good suspense movie after some T-Mobile employee asked a Motorola worker if T-mobile was getting the Droid he looked at the employee and smiled and people assumed that that means yes. This year looks good but T-Mobile should look into Lenovo phones and sign an exclusive deal for the USA. Motorola did say when they launched the Motorola Cliq that there is more android Motorola devices coming T-mobile&#8217;s ways so the Droid and the Droid Tablet looks very possible.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem to fit the bill.</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, that&#039;s a lot of real estate</description>
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		<title>By: branon</title>
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		<dc:creator>branon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my bad, you did say first/second...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad, you did say first/second&#8230;</p>
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