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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-44908</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told by a manager at Motorola&#039;s repair center that there is a major disconnect between Schaumburg where the suits live and India where the developers  for motoblur live. Very definitely a case of one hand not having any idea what the other is doing. The suits don&#039;t answer questions because the developers don&#039;t tell them very much and they&#039;ve learned to distrust much of what they&#039;re told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told by a manager at Motorola&#8217;s repair center that there is a major disconnect between Schaumburg where the suits live and India where the developers  for motoblur live. Very definitely a case of one hand not having any idea what the other is doing. The suits don&#8217;t answer questions because the developers don&#8217;t tell them very much and they&#8217;ve learned to distrust much of what they&#8217;re told.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-36712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will sell my cliq and go back to G1 or Mytouch and that&#039;s the end of it... Motorola is WACK!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will sell my cliq and go back to G1 or Mytouch and that&#8217;s the end of it&#8230; Motorola is WACK!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ko</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-31619</link>
		<dc:creator>Ko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really believe that the motorola cliq needs the android 2.0 update immediately motoblur is already nice but it could do so much more that firmware update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really believe that the motorola cliq needs the android 2.0 update immediately motoblur is already nice but it could do so much more that firmware update.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M.</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-30196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ended up taking my Cliq Back, and swapping it out for a MT3G.  The *only* thing I don&#039;t like about the MT3G is lack of a hardware keyboard.  Compared to the *numerous* issues I had with my Cliq.  The biggest one of course, being the 1.5 OS.  I previously used (and still own) a G1.  After having 1.6, going back to 1.5 was horrid.  On top of that, BLUR just isn&#039;t really all that great.

If Moto had released this device running 1.6, I&#039;d be okay with that. Even with the presumptive long wait to get 2.0. But the fact that they&#039;re releasing hardware with outdated software shows just how lost moto seems to be these days.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;ve enjoyed other moto products in the past.. But those days are far past.  

Also, if anyone cares, the slider on the Cliq is flimsy, at best.  It rides on rails,that are parallel; the problem with this, is that it makes the screen &#039;shaky&#039; when it&#039;s open, and feels like it&#039;s broke or breaking when it&#039;s closed.  

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ended up taking my Cliq Back, and swapping it out for a MT3G.  The *only* thing I don&#8217;t like about the MT3G is lack of a hardware keyboard.  Compared to the *numerous* issues I had with my Cliq.  The biggest one of course, being the 1.5 OS.  I previously used (and still own) a G1.  After having 1.6, going back to 1.5 was horrid.  On top of that, BLUR just isn&#8217;t really all that great.</p>
<p>If Moto had released this device running 1.6, I&#8217;d be okay with that. Even with the presumptive long wait to get 2.0. But the fact that they&#8217;re releasing hardware with outdated software shows just how lost moto seems to be these days.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;ve enjoyed other moto products in the past.. But those days are far past.  </p>
<p>Also, if anyone cares, the slider on the Cliq is flimsy, at best.  It rides on rails,that are parallel; the problem with this, is that it makes the screen &#8217;shaky&#8217; when it&#8217;s open, and feels like it&#8217;s broke or breaking when it&#8217;s closed.  </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-29291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will most likely be getting rid of my Cliq. Ill be picking up the MyTouch 3G and waiting for my 2.0 Update. Sucks cause I really like the hard keyboard. Too bad Motorola is falling back into the Abyss of BS as they always have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will most likely be getting rid of my Cliq. Ill be picking up the MyTouch 3G and waiting for my 2.0 Update. Sucks cause I really like the hard keyboard. Too bad Motorola is falling back into the Abyss of BS as they always have.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-29199</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand why Motorola wouldn&#039;t want to commit to an upgrade to 2.0. They already have MOTOBLUR working with the previous version of Android. Unless there&#039;s something major that their MOTOBLUR software needs in the next version why would they want to put all that money/effort into testing it and changing it to work with 2.0? 
What would they gain from it? They can&#039;t charge for upgrading to 2.0, and they are already struggling so why would they pour resources into software changes unless it is for a new phone or something that will provide concrete returns.
If you don&#039;t like the Cliq and wouldn&#039;t buy it unless it had 2.0 then don&#039;t buy it..its not the phone for you. If you like the Cliq, but want free new features only a month after it came out, then you&#039;re living on fantasy island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why Motorola wouldn&#8217;t want to commit to an upgrade to 2.0. They already have MOTOBLUR working with the previous version of Android. Unless there&#8217;s something major that their MOTOBLUR software needs in the next version why would they want to put all that money/effort into testing it and changing it to work with 2.0?<br />
What would they gain from it? They can&#8217;t charge for upgrading to 2.0, and they are already struggling so why would they pour resources into software changes unless it is for a new phone or something that will provide concrete returns.<br />
If you don&#8217;t like the Cliq and wouldn&#8217;t buy it unless it had 2.0 then don&#8217;t buy it..its not the phone for you. If you like the Cliq, but want free new features only a month after it came out, then you&#8217;re living on fantasy island.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the question of Android 2.0 for the Cliq is not that hard for Motorola to understand and that the answer should be straightforward.  The same question is listed on Motorola&#039;s product FAQ for Android 1.6 and it is basically a non-committal answer.  We will update to new software releases as needed.... It seems like  they do not want to tell customers the truth at this point.  Android is improving with added (and very desirable and useful) features in each new release at this stage.  I see it this way - Motorola has Motoblur running on top of Android 1.5 and it will cost them development $ to update it for 1.6 and 2.0.  So they have not decided to continue to support development for the already released product.  Otherwise they would have a simple answer like - absolutely, we will be releasing an update for our new high end product.   So the Droid is being released with Android 2.0 but not Motoblur.   Verizon choice or Motorola&#039;s?  If Motorola cannot support Motoblur with Android OS updates in a timely manner (or at all) then Motoblur will ultimately fail in the marketplace.  Maybe they have realized that Motoblur is already dead.  That would be a shame because I like Motoblur and the Cliq.  But, I also want new capabilities from OS improvements that other high end Android devices from other manufacturers will be able to support.  Maybe Motorola should just turn Motoblur into several applications and put them on the Android market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the question of Android 2.0 for the Cliq is not that hard for Motorola to understand and that the answer should be straightforward.  The same question is listed on Motorola&#8217;s product FAQ for Android 1.6 and it is basically a non-committal answer.  We will update to new software releases as needed&#8230;. It seems like  they do not want to tell customers the truth at this point.  Android is improving with added (and very desirable and useful) features in each new release at this stage.  I see it this way &#8211; Motorola has Motoblur running on top of Android 1.5 and it will cost them development $ to update it for 1.6 and 2.0.  So they have not decided to continue to support development for the already released product.  Otherwise they would have a simple answer like &#8211; absolutely, we will be releasing an update for our new high end product.   So the Droid is being released with Android 2.0 but not Motoblur.   Verizon choice or Motorola&#8217;s?  If Motorola cannot support Motoblur with Android OS updates in a timely manner (or at all) then Motoblur will ultimately fail in the marketplace.  Maybe they have realized that Motoblur is already dead.  That would be a shame because I like Motoblur and the Cliq.  But, I also want new capabilities from OS improvements that other high end Android devices from other manufacturers will be able to support.  Maybe Motorola should just turn Motoblur into several applications and put them on the Android market.</p>
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		<title>By: TranceMist</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-26684</link>
		<dc:creator>TranceMist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: CLIQ upgradability

This is what I suspected would happen with BLUR and Android.

Rafael is right and Mike unfortunately misses the point. Because Motorola has integrated BLUR on top of Android, T-Mobile cannot release Android 2.0 on the CLIQ unless Motorola integrate and test BLUR into it. What we have here is Motorola (apparently) saying they have no plans to upgrade the underlying OS under BLUR.

This is so typical. Closed minded manufacturer wants a proprietary angle and doesn&#039;t get the benefits of the open development. (note: BLUR is proprietary to Motorola and is not open source)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: CLIQ upgradability</p>
<p>This is what I suspected would happen with BLUR and Android.</p>
<p>Rafael is right and Mike unfortunately misses the point. Because Motorola has integrated BLUR on top of Android, T-Mobile cannot release Android 2.0 on the CLIQ unless Motorola integrate and test BLUR into it. What we have here is Motorola (apparently) saying they have no plans to upgrade the underlying OS under BLUR.</p>
<p>This is so typical. Closed minded manufacturer wants a proprietary angle and doesn&#8217;t get the benefits of the open development. (note: BLUR is proprietary to Motorola and is not open source)</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-26538</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tmobile just sucks a$$!!!  That is the end of it.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/t-mobile-android-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-26488</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google hasn&#039;t officially &quot;shipped&quot; Android 2.0, far as I know. The Verizon Droid is being built with it, so it exists - but just hasn&#039;t been officially shipped/released. Look on the bright side: Once the Verizon phone comes out, 2.0 should ship. If you have an MT3G, you&#039;ll probably have it soon after. If you have a G1, probably either right after that (or maybe before, depending how quick the various ROM developers can make a stable version). 

Regarding the Cliq, I suspect it&#039;ll get upgraded eventually, but considering it&#039;s made by Rotomola, there&#039;s no telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google hasn&#8217;t officially &#8220;shipped&#8221; Android 2.0, far as I know. The Verizon Droid is being built with it, so it exists &#8211; but just hasn&#8217;t been officially shipped/released. Look on the bright side: Once the Verizon phone comes out, 2.0 should ship. If you have an MT3G, you&#8217;ll probably have it soon after. If you have a G1, probably either right after that (or maybe before, depending how quick the various ROM developers can make a stable version). </p>
<p>Regarding the Cliq, I suspect it&#8217;ll get upgraded eventually, but considering it&#8217;s made by Rotomola, there&#8217;s no telling.</p>
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