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	<title>Comments on: Some Key Points Regarding Project Dark</title>
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		<title>By: PD4L</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/some-key-points-regarding-project-dark/comment-page-2/#comment-23177</link>
		<dc:creator>PD4L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brent,

You have a point. I can see the difference now. Especially on new article out on how the new plans will work. 

If its $60 all unlimited, that&#039;s GREAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brent,</p>
<p>You have a point. I can see the difference now. Especially on new article out on how the new plans will work. </p>
<p>If its $60 all unlimited, that&#8217;s GREAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/some-key-points-regarding-project-dark/comment-page-2/#comment-23136</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed feelings on this from a personal standpoint, but I think as a business model this will work very well for them. There is no way they won;t be able to lure in some Boost/Cricket/whatever the hell else with better phones. I feel like this is who this whole thing is going to cater to at first.
Personally, I don&#039;t think this will do much to me. I have 13 months left on my contract, so that&#039;s a $200 fee. I have about a $75 a month bill, so if the plan was $60 a month, and I pay $200 to cancel, switching would cost me $5. Unless of course, switching from ANY grandfathered plan to the new ones costs $35, then I&#039;d say like $155. But according the picures from Boy Genius, contract length will come into play..
Just have to wait and see, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed feelings on this from a personal standpoint, but I think as a business model this will work very well for them. There is no way they won;t be able to lure in some Boost/Cricket/whatever the hell else with better phones. I feel like this is who this whole thing is going to cater to at first.<br />
Personally, I don&#8217;t think this will do much to me. I have 13 months left on my contract, so that&#8217;s a $200 fee. I have about a $75 a month bill, so if the plan was $60 a month, and I pay $200 to cancel, switching would cost me $5. Unless of course, switching from ANY grandfathered plan to the new ones costs $35, then I&#8217;d say like $155. But according the picures from Boy Genius, contract length will come into play..<br />
Just have to wait and see, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: sprinter</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/some-key-points-regarding-project-dark/comment-page-2/#comment-23044</link>
		<dc:creator>sprinter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent that is what I am hoping. I figure the subsidy is about the same as the cancellation fee - $200 bucks.  so the subsidy would be 200 bucks over 24 month or $8.33 a month.  If it works that the plus plan costs 8.33 less per month then the subsidized plan, it would be a great thing if you keep your phone more then 2 years.  if the prices are the same you should take the subsidy and just pay a pro-rated cancellation fee if you need to get out.  I can&#039;t believe we still don&#039;t have pricing and it is only 5 days away...they are doing a great job of keeping the lid on this one!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent that is what I am hoping. I figure the subsidy is about the same as the cancellation fee &#8211; $200 bucks.  so the subsidy would be 200 bucks over 24 month or $8.33 a month.  If it works that the plus plan costs 8.33 less per month then the subsidized plan, it would be a great thing if you keep your phone more then 2 years.  if the prices are the same you should take the subsidy and just pay a pro-rated cancellation fee if you need to get out.  I can&#8217;t believe we still don&#8217;t have pricing and it is only 5 days away&#8230;they are doing a great job of keeping the lid on this one!!</p>
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		<title>By: JBLmobileG1</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/some-key-points-regarding-project-dark/comment-page-2/#comment-23035</link>
		<dc:creator>JBLmobileG1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question.... if we get a corp. Discount now will be still continue to receive it with our grandfathered plans? Will they be avaliable with the newer plans as well.... both with and without a contract?  I hope Tmobile doesn&#039;t try to pull another fast one on me.  I had the unlimited plan for $49.99 then after almost 6 months of getting a discount they told me I couldn&#039;t get it anymore so I switched back to my old 1,000 min plan with MyFavs for $39.99 so I could get the discount.  Sometimes things become so tight that saving yourself 10 a month can make a difference.  Right now I pay about $64 for 1,000 mins with Myfavs the G1 data plan with the 400 messages and the 5.99 insurance plan.  So unless these plans are unlimited everything for less than I pay now.... what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question&#8230;. if we get a corp. Discount now will be still continue to receive it with our grandfathered plans? Will they be avaliable with the newer plans as well&#8230;. both with and without a contract?  I hope Tmobile doesn&#8217;t try to pull another fast one on me.  I had the unlimited plan for $49.99 then after almost 6 months of getting a discount they told me I couldn&#8217;t get it anymore so I switched back to my old 1,000 min plan with MyFavs for $39.99 so I could get the discount.  Sometimes things become so tight that saving yourself 10 a month can make a difference.  Right now I pay about $64 for 1,000 mins with Myfavs the G1 data plan with the 400 messages and the 5.99 insurance plan.  So unless these plans are unlimited everything for less than I pay now&#8230;. what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/some-key-points-regarding-project-dark/comment-page-2/#comment-23034</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PD4L,

I think the savings comes in if you pay off your phone.  As it is now, once they make the money back from subsidizing your phone, you are still charged the same rate.  If you buy a phone without a subsidy currently, you get the same plan as someone who is subsidized.  Keeping the two things separate, you may not see significant price savings at first if you finance your phone, but you would once the separate phone payment is done.  

That is my understanding at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PD4L,</p>
<p>I think the savings comes in if you pay off your phone.  As it is now, once they make the money back from subsidizing your phone, you are still charged the same rate.  If you buy a phone without a subsidy currently, you get the same plan as someone who is subsidized.  Keeping the two things separate, you may not see significant price savings at first if you finance your phone, but you would once the separate phone payment is done.  </p>
<p>That is my understanding at least.</p>
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		<title>By: JBLmobileG1</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBLmobileG1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if they are still going to offer phone insurance or if that will be a thing of the past? If it isn&#039;t being offered and you still owe money on a phone (say you lost or broke) do you still need to pay it off ?  What about if you already have insurance on a phone and its no longer avaliable... will it still be honnored?  I know its from a third party but I am just wondering.  I&#039;d hate to say make payments for a phone only for it to break or lose it then still have to pay on it and not be able to insure it or be able to replace it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if they are still going to offer phone insurance or if that will be a thing of the past? If it isn&#8217;t being offered and you still owe money on a phone (say you lost or broke) do you still need to pay it off ?  What about if you already have insurance on a phone and its no longer avaliable&#8230; will it still be honnored?  I know its from a third party but I am just wondering.  I&#8217;d hate to say make payments for a phone only for it to break or lose it then still have to pay on it and not be able to insure it or be able to replace it.</p>
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		<title>By: PD4L</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD4L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These 2 new plans for T-Mobile sound great! I can see this definitely starting a trend in the US that should have happened 2 yrs ago with the Wireless explosion back then.  

Maybe it’s me but if someone finances a smartphone with the “Even More Plus”, doesn’t that put the monthly price right there with the other price plan from “Even More”? I read the “Even More” will require a 2 yr contract.  Can someone explain what the benefits would be besides being under No Contract? Which you have to pay off anyway if you want to get out of that plan? 

Myself I don’t mind contracts but if someone can answer, are the plans for “Even More” going to be slightly higher or the same as “Even More Plus”.  I thought the “Even More Plus” were for those who do not want to be tied down to a contract but ALL the new plans were the same.  Maybe I am mistaken but if someone can correct me, that would be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These 2 new plans for T-Mobile sound great! I can see this definitely starting a trend in the US that should have happened 2 yrs ago with the Wireless explosion back then.  </p>
<p>Maybe it’s me but if someone finances a smartphone with the “Even More Plus”, doesn’t that put the monthly price right there with the other price plan from “Even More”? I read the “Even More” will require a 2 yr contract.  Can someone explain what the benefits would be besides being under No Contract? Which you have to pay off anyway if you want to get out of that plan? </p>
<p>Myself I don’t mind contracts but if someone can answer, are the plans for “Even More” going to be slightly higher or the same as “Even More Plus”.  I thought the “Even More Plus” were for those who do not want to be tied down to a contract but ALL the new plans were the same.  Maybe I am mistaken but if someone can correct me, that would be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: TravMobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>TravMobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So will switching to the new Even More plan qualify for a handset subsidization early? If not, will the 20 month financing be available for non-eligible phone upgrades?

I had no idea 3G coverage was going to proliferate so quickly and I am stuck with a lovely Blackberry 8900 which does not have 3G support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So will switching to the new Even More plan qualify for a handset subsidization early? If not, will the 20 month financing be available for non-eligible phone upgrades?</p>
<p>I had no idea 3G coverage was going to proliferate so quickly and I am stuck with a lovely Blackberry 8900 which does not have 3G support.</p>
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		<title>By: yor PAPPI</title>
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		<dc:creator>yor PAPPI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW is this what all this fuss about unlimited can i call u cricket LMFAO are u serious that&#039;s it WTF . See i said it b4 TMO u suck ass WTH is going on what&#039;s next ur gonna file for bankruptcy LMAO. But we gotta pay for the full price on your sorry ass phones wut a F....N joke need 2 star looking else ware TMO u really drop the axe on customers this time ur a LOSER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW is this what all this fuss about unlimited can i call u cricket LMFAO are u serious that&#8217;s it WTF . See i said it b4 TMO u suck ass WTH is going on what&#8217;s next ur gonna file for bankruptcy LMAO. But we gotta pay for the full price on your sorry ass phones wut a F&#8230;.N joke need 2 star looking else ware TMO u really drop the axe on customers this time ur a LOSER</p>
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		<title>By: just some dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>just some dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no way to switch from Even More Plus to Even More without canceling all together and getting a new phone number&quot;

That would be against NYS law, im sure someone will out there will file a class action suite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no way to switch from Even More Plus to Even More without canceling all together and getting a new phone number&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be against NYS law, im sure someone will out there will file a class action suite.</p>
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