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	<title>Comments on: Project Dark: Old vs New [Comparison Charts!]</title>
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		<title>By: GFAB</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-28086</link>
		<dc:creator>GFAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you&#039;re still able to use the myfaves with the SK. All T-Mobile devices will allow you to use myfaves, they are stored in the Tmo system. I&#039;d recommend making sure you have an alternate way to change your myfaves though, just so you don&#039;t forget about them. I am working on another chart for the rate plans, it may take a little while to recieve permissions but I will work on getting a more understandable chart available...I admit, that other one is a bit confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;re still able to use the myfaves with the SK. All T-Mobile devices will allow you to use myfaves, they are stored in the Tmo system. I&#8217;d recommend making sure you have an alternate way to change your myfaves though, just so you don&#8217;t forget about them. I am working on another chart for the rate plans, it may take a little while to recieve permissions but I will work on getting a more understandable chart available&#8230;I admit, that other one is a bit confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Junioor</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-27636</link>
		<dc:creator>Junioor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering. I have a sidekik but my sister has the myfaves play.she was  told that only myfaves phones would woek.if the sidekik does not have myfaves is she still able to use it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering. I have a sidekik but my sister has the myfaves play.she was  told that only myfaves phones would woek.if the sidekik does not have myfaves is she still able to use it?</p>
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		<title>By: billy v</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-25311</link>
		<dc:creator>billy v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry.. but your charts suck... i cant understand what to make of them. Someone didnt learn how to make charts in College / High School, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry.. but your charts suck&#8230; i cant understand what to make of them. Someone didnt learn how to make charts in College / High School, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Viper</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-25279</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@queen

Even More Plus you can pay for phone up front in full or if you finance and leave T-Mobile before those 20 months are up then you can just pay them the remainder of your phone balance.

I imagine you could still do one year phone upgrades and contracts. They have stated for a while now 2 year contracts are required for phone upgrades and the like, but I&#039;ve always paid $50 more and gotten a 1 year contract for upgrading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@queen</p>
<p>Even More Plus you can pay for phone up front in full or if you finance and leave T-Mobile before those 20 months are up then you can just pay them the remainder of your phone balance.</p>
<p>I imagine you could still do one year phone upgrades and contracts. They have stated for a while now 2 year contracts are required for phone upgrades and the like, but I&#8217;ve always paid $50 more and gotten a 1 year contract for upgrading</p>
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		<title>By: Queen</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-25274</link>
		<dc:creator>Queen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With BOTH plans, it seems that TMO wants you to stay with them for TWO years.

Even More (2 year contract req)
Even More Plus (20 month phone payment plan)

I prefer ONE year contracts with the discounted NEW phone price.

So how are these plans benefiting me???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With BOTH plans, it seems that TMO wants you to stay with them for TWO years.</p>
<p>Even More (2 year contract req)<br />
Even More Plus (20 month phone payment plan)</p>
<p>I prefer ONE year contracts with the discounted NEW phone price.</p>
<p>So how are these plans benefiting me???</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-24981</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything is a bit chaotic right now with understanding these new plans, but its nice to see that a wireless company is trying to stay innovative and isn&#039;t afraid to change things up. Tmobile does take feedback very seriously so things that are a negative impact may be subject to change just go to tmobile.com and submit feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything is a bit chaotic right now with understanding these new plans, but its nice to see that a wireless company is trying to stay innovative and isn&#8217;t afraid to change things up. Tmobile does take feedback very seriously so things that are a negative impact may be subject to change just go to tmobile.com and submit feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-24968</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the pricing may be competitive on some plans, Tmo is advertising this as 1/2 off the rates of the other major carriers.  I don&#039;t see a 50% savings.

This is not a game-changer.  A game changer would have been to break there entire product into 1 or 2 plans, and both plans would have unlimited calling and text, while the other would have unlimited calling, text, and web.  That would be a game changer.

But look at that chart above!  What average Joe is going to take the time to try to decipher all that?  And that&#039;s comparing the new rates to Tmo&#039;s old rates.  Imagine comparing it to Verizon, Sprint, or AT&amp;T, with there different structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the pricing may be competitive on some plans, Tmo is advertising this as 1/2 off the rates of the other major carriers.  I don&#8217;t see a 50% savings.</p>
<p>This is not a game-changer.  A game changer would have been to break there entire product into 1 or 2 plans, and both plans would have unlimited calling and text, while the other would have unlimited calling, text, and web.  That would be a game changer.</p>
<p>But look at that chart above!  What average Joe is going to take the time to try to decipher all that?  And that&#8217;s comparing the new rates to Tmo&#8217;s old rates.  Imagine comparing it to Verizon, Sprint, or AT&amp;T, with there different structure.</p>
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		<title>By: GregP</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mystic,

Dude, I totally get that you want to use the promotional plan in your comparison, but the simple fact that it was PREVIOUSLY an offer doesn&#039;t hold water. Your justification in the article isn&#039;t a justification at all.

To do the readers justice, you need to compare a REGULAR rate plan. I bet I could dig up some pretty wild promotional plans from WAY back in the past that would blow that one out of the water. Would that be a beneficial analysis for a customer? No. 

What would be beneficial is comparing plans from the last print brochure. In sum: Even More is not a promotion, it is the new regular rate plan structure from T-Mobile. Please compare it to the last set of regular rate plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mystic,</p>
<p>Dude, I totally get that you want to use the promotional plan in your comparison, but the simple fact that it was PREVIOUSLY an offer doesn&#8217;t hold water. Your justification in the article isn&#8217;t a justification at all.</p>
<p>To do the readers justice, you need to compare a REGULAR rate plan. I bet I could dig up some pretty wild promotional plans from WAY back in the past that would blow that one out of the water. Would that be a beneficial analysis for a customer? No. </p>
<p>What would be beneficial is comparing plans from the last print brochure. In sum: Even More is not a promotion, it is the new regular rate plan structure from T-Mobile. Please compare it to the last set of regular rate plans.</p>
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		<title>By: alex martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/project-dark-old-vs-new/comment-page-2/#comment-24925</link>
		<dc:creator>alex martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People what u guys are not realizing is that tmobile does not want u to be on a contract and that is why they want u to choose the EVEN MORE PLUS plans. All u guys with the loyalty plan with the tzones hack that works on the iphone and fam time text for $10 (super old school). Well of course its gonna hard for tmo to please u guys but ur not seeing the bigger picture I mean who offers 500 minutes mo-mo w night n weekends for $30? Add text $10 and smart phone (g1 bb or cliq) internet for $30 for a total price of $60/month???
Seriosuly what company offers that? Go to att and activate an iphone with unl text and minimum is $90/month with 450 minutes?.... now for those o u that aren&#039;t good at math that&#039;s $30 less per month which equals $360 a year. Shit with those $360 u can buy the new 8520 with case and car charger. What can u do with att?? And did u genuises see that the full retail for a mytouch and bb 8900 dropped from 499 to 399???? Gosh all u nerds are so snobish and hard to please. If ur so unhappy go to metro and well see u when u come back in a month... put it this way purchase a new 8900 or mytouch put $200 down then just pay $10 / month for 20 months... u won&#039;t even feel the cost of the phone and ur plan will not increase drastically... what&#039;s also important and that u guys fail to see ia that you are no longer required to get the internet so posers that want a blackberry for talk n text well now u can do it.... same tthing goes for g1 n mytouch.... hahaha gosh I love working for tmobile and btw I&#039;m using the cliq and so far its been an awesome phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People what u guys are not realizing is that tmobile does not want u to be on a contract and that is why they want u to choose the EVEN MORE PLUS plans. All u guys with the loyalty plan with the tzones hack that works on the iphone and fam time text for $10 (super old school). Well of course its gonna hard for tmo to please u guys but ur not seeing the bigger picture I mean who offers 500 minutes mo-mo w night n weekends for $30? Add text $10 and smart phone (g1 bb or cliq) internet for $30 for a total price of $60/month???<br />
Seriosuly what company offers that? Go to att and activate an iphone with unl text and minimum is $90/month with 450 minutes?&#8230;. now for those o u that aren&#8217;t good at math that&#8217;s $30 less per month which equals $360 a year. Shit with those $360 u can buy the new 8520 with case and car charger. What can u do with att?? And did u genuises see that the full retail for a mytouch and bb 8900 dropped from 499 to 399???? Gosh all u nerds are so snobish and hard to please. If ur so unhappy go to metro and well see u when u come back in a month&#8230; put it this way purchase a new 8900 or mytouch put $200 down then just pay $10 / month for 20 months&#8230; u won&#8217;t even feel the cost of the phone and ur plan will not increase drastically&#8230; what&#8217;s also important and that u guys fail to see ia that you are no longer required to get the internet so posers that want a blackberry for talk n text well now u can do it&#8230;. same tthing goes for g1 n mytouch&#8230;. hahaha gosh I love working for tmobile and btw I&#8217;m using the cliq and so far its been an awesome phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurlamania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurlamania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t I have a mytouch 3g for the fact it is a nice touchscreen phone with a nice camera and music player and wifi if i need it. Why can&#039;t I have that right to enjoy it as I please without having to pay for a data plan. T-mobile is suppose to be different and game changing. but yet they loose a sale. I probably wont change to tmobile because of that fact im no better off than I am now plus I would pay more for talk n text. I want to support T-Mobile but they wont let me. and if I do goto them Ill get a nokia from newegg instead of paying T-mobile for a mytouch or buy a used mytouch off the net. and not be force to get a data plan why cause that hassle T-Mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t I have a mytouch 3g for the fact it is a nice touchscreen phone with a nice camera and music player and wifi if i need it. Why can&#8217;t I have that right to enjoy it as I please without having to pay for a data plan. T-mobile is suppose to be different and game changing. but yet they loose a sale. I probably wont change to tmobile because of that fact im no better off than I am now plus I would pay more for talk n text. I want to support T-Mobile but they wont let me. and if I do goto them Ill get a nokia from newegg instead of paying T-mobile for a mytouch or buy a used mytouch off the net. and not be force to get a data plan why cause that hassle T-Mobile.</p>
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