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		<title>By: owenslady</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-25098</link>
		<dc:creator>owenslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tHERES NO QUESTION THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DATA PLANS MORE AFFORDABLE ESPECIALLY FOR FAMILY PLANS OR BUSINESS PLANS .  WE HAVE CREATED THESE WIFI NETWORKS WITHIN OUR FAMILY AND BLACKBERRY ARE THE ONLY PHONES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ALL STAY CONNECTED WITH A MINIMUM COST.  MY KIDS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY NEED THEIR PHONES TO WORK THRU ALL THE CHOICES FOR STAYING CONNECTED THRU SOCIAL NETWORKS AND SUCH SO A FAMILY UNLIMITED DATA PLAN WOULD KEEP ME A HAPPY CUSTOMER I LOVE TO SEE WHATS GOING ON WITH ALL MY ONLINE NETWORKS SO THE CLIC SEEMS TO BE A TOTALLY COOL PHONE WHAT HAPPENED TO RIM THOUGH I THOUGHT THEY WERE LEADING EDGE IN THIS WIFI WORLD WHY HAVENT THEY BRANDED A PHONE WITH  TMOBILE AND THE HOTSPOT UMA COVERAGE..  THAT IS THE VERY BEST OF THE BEST THERE UMA ACCESS THRU WIFI ON YOUR PHONE NO MATTER WHAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tHERES NO QUESTION THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DATA PLANS MORE AFFORDABLE ESPECIALLY FOR FAMILY PLANS OR BUSINESS PLANS .  WE HAVE CREATED THESE WIFI NETWORKS WITHIN OUR FAMILY AND BLACKBERRY ARE THE ONLY PHONES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ALL STAY CONNECTED WITH A MINIMUM COST.  MY KIDS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY NEED THEIR PHONES TO WORK THRU ALL THE CHOICES FOR STAYING CONNECTED THRU SOCIAL NETWORKS AND SUCH SO A FAMILY UNLIMITED DATA PLAN WOULD KEEP ME A HAPPY CUSTOMER I LOVE TO SEE WHATS GOING ON WITH ALL MY ONLINE NETWORKS SO THE CLIC SEEMS TO BE A TOTALLY COOL PHONE WHAT HAPPENED TO RIM THOUGH I THOUGHT THEY WERE LEADING EDGE IN THIS WIFI WORLD WHY HAVENT THEY BRANDED A PHONE WITH  TMOBILE AND THE HOTSPOT UMA COVERAGE..  THAT IS THE VERY BEST OF THE BEST THERE UMA ACCESS THRU WIFI ON YOUR PHONE NO MATTER WHAT!</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMichaelNotMike</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-18383</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsMichaelNotMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well having had cell phones since 1989 and having been with all the carriers, the problem is the economy, not the handset line-up.  

--  People are cutting back and not spending.

-- People I know are making due with what they have.

-- People are making the stuff they have last longer.

(As a sign of the times shoe and car repair businesses are thriving).

--  When Nokia&#039;s quarterly profits were down 90% this year, that tells me people are not buying phones.  

--  When Apple/AT&amp;T slashed the price of the iPhone, that tells me people are not buying high end handsets.  

--  When a well-made, expensive to manufacture phone (the TP2) is sold by Verizon for $199 on a two-year contract, and $350 by T-Mobile (when it should sell for $500 to $600 on a two-year deal), that tells me people are not buying handsets.

--  And there are only so many people willing to wait in line and over pay for an iPhone (and get reamed on a two-year plan).  IMHO people have wised up.  They are no longer willing to get a free phone only to get reamed on a two year plan.  That&#039;s the power of the Net, people talking about getting duped or getting consumed with the must-have phone, only to end up paying $3500 for a plan over two years.

For the majority of consumers, who can barely make ends meet each month, $3000 to $4000 for two years of cell phone service is being stupid. 

--  Bottom line is that people want a great phone for $200 and they want cheap plans.  The fastest way to impending doom is for T-Mo to raise prices and nickel and dime customers with charges here and charges there.

--  Like others said, T-Mo should be lowering its unlimited data plan price, not raising it.  With lower prices they can attract and increase customer share.  In these hard economic times people will flock to where the savings are.  They are not flocking to whoever has the hottest handset.  People are shopping for the plans, not the phones.

--  Fact is there are few people who will stick with AT&amp;T simply because it has the iPhone.  Those days are over.

McDonald&#039;s became a success because it sold cheap food, but to millions (and eventually billions) of customers.  

The key to success in these hard times is to become known as the low-priced carrier.

The worst thing T-Mo could do is to start &quot;taxing&quot; its customers to death.

Consumers react and take action when getting reamed.  

Look what happened to the airlines.  With fare hikes and customers being charged for toilet tissue, so to speak, people stopped flying.  Gone were the vacation flights.

When fuel got to $4 a gallon, people stopped driving, except for essential commuting.

And with banks pulling their stunts (decreasing credit limits and raising interest rates) people no longer buy on credit.

And with cable TV services, people are disconnecting their sets (and using Netflix).  

Cable modems are being discarded for way less expensive DSL services.

If T-Mo starts taxing its customers they are going to cut back to having only the most basic of services and eventually they will go to which ever carrier has the lowest rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well having had cell phones since 1989 and having been with all the carriers, the problem is the economy, not the handset line-up.  </p>
<p>&#8211;  People are cutting back and not spending.</p>
<p>&#8211; People I know are making due with what they have.</p>
<p>&#8211; People are making the stuff they have last longer.</p>
<p>(As a sign of the times shoe and car repair businesses are thriving).</p>
<p>&#8211;  When Nokia&#8217;s quarterly profits were down 90% this year, that tells me people are not buying phones.  </p>
<p>&#8211;  When Apple/AT&amp;T slashed the price of the iPhone, that tells me people are not buying high end handsets.  </p>
<p>&#8211;  When a well-made, expensive to manufacture phone (the TP2) is sold by Verizon for $199 on a two-year contract, and $350 by T-Mobile (when it should sell for $500 to $600 on a two-year deal), that tells me people are not buying handsets.</p>
<p>&#8211;  And there are only so many people willing to wait in line and over pay for an iPhone (and get reamed on a two-year plan).  IMHO people have wised up.  They are no longer willing to get a free phone only to get reamed on a two year plan.  That&#8217;s the power of the Net, people talking about getting duped or getting consumed with the must-have phone, only to end up paying $3500 for a plan over two years.</p>
<p>For the majority of consumers, who can barely make ends meet each month, $3000 to $4000 for two years of cell phone service is being stupid. </p>
<p>&#8211;  Bottom line is that people want a great phone for $200 and they want cheap plans.  The fastest way to impending doom is for T-Mo to raise prices and nickel and dime customers with charges here and charges there.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Like others said, T-Mo should be lowering its unlimited data plan price, not raising it.  With lower prices they can attract and increase customer share.  In these hard economic times people will flock to where the savings are.  They are not flocking to whoever has the hottest handset.  People are shopping for the plans, not the phones.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Fact is there are few people who will stick with AT&amp;T simply because it has the iPhone.  Those days are over.</p>
<p>McDonald&#8217;s became a success because it sold cheap food, but to millions (and eventually billions) of customers.  </p>
<p>The key to success in these hard times is to become known as the low-priced carrier.</p>
<p>The worst thing T-Mo could do is to start &#8220;taxing&#8221; its customers to death.</p>
<p>Consumers react and take action when getting reamed.  </p>
<p>Look what happened to the airlines.  With fare hikes and customers being charged for toilet tissue, so to speak, people stopped flying.  Gone were the vacation flights.</p>
<p>When fuel got to $4 a gallon, people stopped driving, except for essential commuting.</p>
<p>And with banks pulling their stunts (decreasing credit limits and raising interest rates) people no longer buy on credit.</p>
<p>And with cable TV services, people are disconnecting their sets (and using Netflix).  </p>
<p>Cable modems are being discarded for way less expensive DSL services.</p>
<p>If T-Mo starts taxing its customers they are going to cut back to having only the most basic of services and eventually they will go to which ever carrier has the lowest rates.</p>
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		<title>By: TMoMgr</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17861</link>
		<dc:creator>TMoMgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you grow your business during a recession... That is the question that T-mo needs to answer. Right now people who have the grandfathered 49.99 family plan are going into store asking if there is anything they can do to reduce their bills. Give people a great value for their money and they will come. Here is the way to make it work.... ADVERTISE IT!!! You cannot expect customers to advertise for you. T-Mo has had this thought process for many years - anyone remember caller tunes??? Released at least a year before anyone else offered a similar service. The numbers for it being added were low. Advertise the things people are going to notice... the phones and the cost.... JD Powers awards are great, but really; is that something that is going to help you make a purchasing decision? Honestly, No! Finally, the Iphone... yes it&#039;s great, yes it has forever changed wireless and no it will not turn T-Mo around. The Iphone has made its mark and it will forever be associated with that (evil) company (i hate). T-Mo did something a few years back; some big-wigs went to Taiwan for a visit, and by the end of the trip the Shadow was born. Now i&#039;m not talking about the Shadow itself, what i am talking about is the fact that a carrier went to a manufacturer and told them what they wanted. And it was actually made (not a great example but it proves my point none the less). Go to the manufacturers give them the specs of the iphone and tell them to do better. Oh yeah no win-mo.... lets wait until Microsoft figures out what a handset os is supposed to do (turn on in one attempt and not take a full minute to boot, just basically work).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you grow your business during a recession&#8230; That is the question that T-mo needs to answer. Right now people who have the grandfathered 49.99 family plan are going into store asking if there is anything they can do to reduce their bills. Give people a great value for their money and they will come. Here is the way to make it work&#8230;. ADVERTISE IT!!! You cannot expect customers to advertise for you. T-Mo has had this thought process for many years &#8211; anyone remember caller tunes??? Released at least a year before anyone else offered a similar service. The numbers for it being added were low. Advertise the things people are going to notice&#8230; the phones and the cost&#8230;. JD Powers awards are great, but really; is that something that is going to help you make a purchasing decision? Honestly, No! Finally, the Iphone&#8230; yes it&#8217;s great, yes it has forever changed wireless and no it will not turn T-Mo around. The Iphone has made its mark and it will forever be associated with that (evil) company (i hate). T-Mo did something a few years back; some big-wigs went to Taiwan for a visit, and by the end of the trip the Shadow was born. Now i&#8217;m not talking about the Shadow itself, what i am talking about is the fact that a carrier went to a manufacturer and told them what they wanted. And it was actually made (not a great example but it proves my point none the less). Go to the manufacturers give them the specs of the iphone and tell them to do better. Oh yeah no win-mo&#8230;. lets wait until Microsoft figures out what a handset os is supposed to do (turn on in one attempt and not take a full minute to boot, just basically work).</p>
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		<title>By: 30014</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17851</link>
		<dc:creator>30014</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kickstart13, are u really serious? &quot; Tmo should focus on the popular smartphones like blackberry&quot;. Why would someone change carriers for a phone that is available to all carriers. Regardless if its the storm or the bold you. basically have the same phone because the os is almost identical on all blackberries.                                                                                       Sprint  on 042110 if u are with sprint now why are u still posting on a Tmo based blog. Please leave traitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kickstart13, are u really serious? &#8221; Tmo should focus on the popular smartphones like blackberry&#8221;. Why would someone change carriers for a phone that is available to all carriers. Regardless if its the storm or the bold you. basically have the same phone because the os is almost identical on all blackberries.                                                                                       Sprint  on 042110 if u are with sprint now why are u still posting on a Tmo based blog. Please leave traitor.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17790</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem that I see is the constant request for the iphone. Fantastic device and all but the advertising for that device is paid for by apple costing AT&amp;T very little if any money to get the name of the product out there. HTC and Blackberry make some incredible products but they can sell them to anyone. T-mobile needs to find some manufactuor (Microsoft perhaps) sign a nice long exclusive agreement and force the manufacter to have their own investment to the success of the product. The zune phone or the psp phone would be such large indeveors by either Microsoft or Sony that they will have to advertise to make their product survive and thus increase the profitibility of T-mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem that I see is the constant request for the iphone. Fantastic device and all but the advertising for that device is paid for by apple costing AT&amp;T very little if any money to get the name of the product out there. HTC and Blackberry make some incredible products but they can sell them to anyone. T-mobile needs to find some manufactuor (Microsoft perhaps) sign a nice long exclusive agreement and force the manufacter to have their own investment to the success of the product. The zune phone or the psp phone would be such large indeveors by either Microsoft or Sony that they will have to advertise to make their product survive and thus increase the profitibility of T-mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17746</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe they should get better phones that will attract customers, and also better upgrade prices to keep current customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe they should get better phones that will attract customers, and also better upgrade prices to keep current customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Fromtheinside</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17729</link>
		<dc:creator>Fromtheinside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you never have a problem with Sprint then more power to ya. But once you do, you will be in a nightmare. I can&#039;t tell you how many time I talk to former Sprint customers who have had problems that Sprint will not resolve, period. Which is why they are hemorrhaging so much. Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you never have a problem with Sprint then more power to ya. But once you do, you will be in a nightmare. I can&#8217;t tell you how many time I talk to former Sprint customers who have had problems that Sprint will not resolve, period. Which is why they are hemorrhaging so much. Good Luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Sprint on 042410</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sprint on 042410</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I have had zero problems with Sprint customer service since switching.  I go to the Sprint forums but they&#039;re not as fun since more people seem to be happy.  Second, Sprint&#039;s Any Mobile Anytime for everything data subscribers.  Don&#039;t think My Faves stacks up too well to that.  I have 1500 minutes and 4 lines and with unlimited calling to EVERY cell phone in the U.S. I may use 100 minutes per month for the next 2 years.  Data speeds are great and the Pre is on par with my previous G1.  I&#039;ll stay with Sprint and pay about 70 less per month for the same service I would have with T-Mobile.  Also, NFL Sunday Ticket on the Pre, can&#039;t beat that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I have had zero problems with Sprint customer service since switching.  I go to the Sprint forums but they&#8217;re not as fun since more people seem to be happy.  Second, Sprint&#8217;s Any Mobile Anytime for everything data subscribers.  Don&#8217;t think My Faves stacks up too well to that.  I have 1500 minutes and 4 lines and with unlimited calling to EVERY cell phone in the U.S. I may use 100 minutes per month for the next 2 years.  Data speeds are great and the Pre is on par with my previous G1.  I&#8217;ll stay with Sprint and pay about 70 less per month for the same service I would have with T-Mobile.  Also, NFL Sunday Ticket on the Pre, can&#8217;t beat that!</p>
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		<title>By: Fromtheinside</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/09/deutsche-telekom-shareholders-want-action/comment-page-1/#comment-17712</link>
		<dc:creator>Fromtheinside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me tell you what the problem is. T-Mobile is a &quot;reactive&quot; company, not a &quot;proactive&quot; company. If the executive committee knew the problems were coming why didn&#039;t they at least try to do what other companies like Apple have done in the process. It&#039;s not that T-Mobile USA is unprofitable like the UK version was. It is still very profitable. The concern is in the drop in revenue per subscriber. On the inside this is what everyone is talking about. Increasing the monthly recurring charges. But let&#039;s think about what happened the quarter that this drop occurred in. Unlimited Loyalty Plan. Within a month of this plan happening close to 15% of the subscriber base had taken advantage of this plan. GREAT deal for customers but anyone could have seen the short term costs of such a plan. And the fact that the plan didn&#039;t require any additional contract terms on the part of the customers doesn&#039;t help either.

Instead of pointing out the long term positives in this change that caused a great deal of this current &quot;financial crisis&quot; in the quarterly numbers, the company just reacts as if the world is coming to an end &amp; everything must be changed to try to fix this problem. 

Another case in point, twice this year T-Mobile has changed it&#039;s mind on policy changes when it &quot;found out&quot; they would be unpopular. Not being able to backdate your rate-plan to the beginning of the current cycle to help cover overages that haven&#039;t yet billed &amp; the Paper Bill Fee. Anyone with half a quarter of a brain could&#039;ve told the company that these two policies would be reacted to negatively. HELLO!!

As far a phones go, unless the merger with Sprint goes forward, I don&#039;t believe T-mobile has much more to offer than the kind of handsets it is currently. Handset manufactures make there money on the sale of phones. If they can get there top of the lines on the largest networks but sell them to the networks for a little less then the law of volume makes more money for them &amp; greater market penetration for higher sales down the road. Verison 90+ million, ATT 85+ million, Sprint 45+ million, T-mobile 33+ million. Who would you decide to send your best to. If T-Mobile had the extra 45 million from Sprint, it would be very hard for Apple to NOT allow T-Mobile to have the iPhone instead of Verison. Apple will not have to create a CDMA version for just one company &amp; would have nearly as many customers to sell to as well. Win for Apple, T-Mobile Inc. &amp; current Sprint customers as they will have a much better time dealing with T-Mobile than the current Customer No-Service they get now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell you what the problem is. T-Mobile is a &#8220;reactive&#8221; company, not a &#8220;proactive&#8221; company. If the executive committee knew the problems were coming why didn&#8217;t they at least try to do what other companies like Apple have done in the process. It&#8217;s not that T-Mobile USA is unprofitable like the UK version was. It is still very profitable. The concern is in the drop in revenue per subscriber. On the inside this is what everyone is talking about. Increasing the monthly recurring charges. But let&#8217;s think about what happened the quarter that this drop occurred in. Unlimited Loyalty Plan. Within a month of this plan happening close to 15% of the subscriber base had taken advantage of this plan. GREAT deal for customers but anyone could have seen the short term costs of such a plan. And the fact that the plan didn&#8217;t require any additional contract terms on the part of the customers doesn&#8217;t help either.</p>
<p>Instead of pointing out the long term positives in this change that caused a great deal of this current &#8220;financial crisis&#8221; in the quarterly numbers, the company just reacts as if the world is coming to an end &amp; everything must be changed to try to fix this problem. </p>
<p>Another case in point, twice this year T-Mobile has changed it&#8217;s mind on policy changes when it &#8220;found out&#8221; they would be unpopular. Not being able to backdate your rate-plan to the beginning of the current cycle to help cover overages that haven&#8217;t yet billed &amp; the Paper Bill Fee. Anyone with half a quarter of a brain could&#8217;ve told the company that these two policies would be reacted to negatively. HELLO!!</p>
<p>As far a phones go, unless the merger with Sprint goes forward, I don&#8217;t believe T-mobile has much more to offer than the kind of handsets it is currently. Handset manufactures make there money on the sale of phones. If they can get there top of the lines on the largest networks but sell them to the networks for a little less then the law of volume makes more money for them &amp; greater market penetration for higher sales down the road. Verison 90+ million, ATT 85+ million, Sprint 45+ million, T-mobile 33+ million. Who would you decide to send your best to. If T-Mobile had the extra 45 million from Sprint, it would be very hard for Apple to NOT allow T-Mobile to have the iPhone instead of Verison. Apple will not have to create a CDMA version for just one company &amp; would have nearly as many customers to sell to as well. Win for Apple, T-Mobile Inc. &amp; current Sprint customers as they will have a much better time dealing with T-Mobile than the current Customer No-Service they get now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kickstar13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kickstar13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think T-Mobile should focus more on the popular smartphones like Blackberry and bring them to T-Mobile.</description>
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