G1 Stuck Eating Cupcakes

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While the G1 has been snacking on Cupcake, or Android 1.5, for quite some time now, it seems as though it will be too full to eat any more desserts.  While the first Android phone graced us with its presence, its hardware is lacking and is forcing it to be left out to get stale.  Dave Sparks, an Android software engineer, has said that devs “won’t be able to fit the latest [Android] release on the G1′s internal flash” soon.  Blame HTC for baking the G1 with a lack of internal storage, and an inability to support app storage / loading from a microSD card (well, unless you root it, of course).  Long story short, G1 users may not be able to taste Donut, Eclair, Flan or whatever other dessert that Google has baking in the oven.

Engadget

UPDATE: Memory limitations aside, T-Mobile has said that they “plan to continue working with Google to introduce future software updates to the T-Mobile G1. Reports to the contrary are inaccurate.”  Now, lets just hope these are tasty updates and not run of the mill security updates.

  • Mack

    Well that sucks…. I guess I’ll just have to rely on the likes of Haykuro, JF, and Cyanogen to provide me with some Donut, Eclair, Flan, and etc goodness.

  • http://forums.tmonews.com T1 Connect

    My poor g1, well as long as im rooted and developers have a itch for what they do i dont think i have to worry, its too bad about the unrooted users though, for more dorid love they have to get another phone.

  • http://none AnonQ

    Doesn’t the MyTouch and the G1 have the same memory?

  • AnonQ

    Doesn’t the G1 and the MyTouch have the same memory capacity?

  • kp

    Well there’s a thank you to the people who supported android and helped it get off its feet. I’m pissed!!

  • SEFan

    Bummer. I’ve never been a fan of the G1, but the fact is the brick was the FIRST Android phone. Time for you G1 fans to establish the “Root your G1″ club, assuming you haven’t already…

  • Chrees

    Let’s assume that the T-Mobile G1 v2 is coming out, presumably this year. What are the chances of T-Mobile offering current G1 users a REAL discount?

    I mean, this isn’t just a “buy the next gen phone because it’s better/faster/etc.” This is a real issue that shouldn’t have even gotten the stamp of approval from neither HTC nor Google.

  • Joshua

    I think that really sucks. T-Mobile should offer all the G1 customers some kind of credit or rebate or something. Because this is just saying that we have to buy a new android phone if we want the update, which isn’t fair to all of the early android adopters. Even though i was already gonna buy a new android phone by the end of the year, people shouldn’t be forced to upgrade if there is nothing wrong with their G1.

  • Mark

    Don’t need donut, etc. Cyanogen already has donut, been using global search for 2 or 3 days. He says the G1 has plenty of storage.

  • Edward

    Should t-mobile also offer everyone who bought the curve 8320 a credit? since the 8520 just came out. or sidekick 08 owners a credit since the 09 is out?

    I’d be more upset if i was one of those customers, there are major hardware changes (trackpad on BB, 3G on SK) there is no possible way their phones will be as good as the new ones, at least with android it is possible to keep up to date, you may have to root it, but you still have an option, the other customers have no choice. technology will always advance, they cant just keep giving you credits so you can follow the trend.

    if it worked your way i would have a ps3 and not my ps2, nobody told sony to give me a credit…

  • joemarine23

    There is currently a sale going on for qualified upgrades to a G1 for only 129.99 doesnt seem like much of a discount from the 149.99 but hey 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

  • Jim

    Tomorrow is the last day of my trial period for the NyTouch. I plan to ask the store manager to guarantee that my phone will be able to utilize all updates for the next 2 years or T-Mobile will give me my money back. If he can’t put that in writing, T-Mobile will be stuck with a used MyTouch. Thank god for the blogs and trial periods.

  • TCM

    Root here i come!! Was holding off on getting my phone rooted but with this news its getting rooted!!

  • TmoRepInAl

    I agree with all of the comments about rooting the phone. I have a G1 and a MyTouch.. and the latter is collecting dust at least until I root it… I have a I just put the newest JACHero rom on my G1 and it works great. For those of you scared to root, just remember that as long as you have your SPL and your radio updated, it will be hard to brick your phone… its WELL worth it

  • mfabela

    and that’s why I got the palm pre…tired of waiting on t-mo to pick up their slow speed. Although I’m sleeping with I still love tmonews!

  • Brent Johnson

    I bought my G1 in February, and loved it the minute I got it. Then I discovered root, and my love affair has strengthened. Given a choice between my girlfriend and my G1, the G1 wins hands-down.

    That said, the G1 hasn’t even been out for a year yet (I know, I was late to the party but had to wait for upgrade pricing). It’s still being sold to this day (albiet at clearance pricing). With all that said, I somewhat expect continued support and upgrades for a while longer … especially through Donut since that pretty much puts it at the 1 year release date.

    No, I don’t expect them to keep this up forever, but when you make a purchase, you have a reasonable expectation of the life of the product. With one year contracts pretty much being required to make first-generation G1′s worth the risk, the life cycle of the G1 should be, at least, a minimum of one year.

    I also offer a comparable example:

    For the past couple of months, in anticipation of Windows 7, computer makes have been selling the wares with free upgrades to Windows 7 when it is released.

    The opearting system in that case (Windows 7) has been in development for months and months (if not years), so there was at least basic knowledge of what equipment would be required to run Win7 and computer makes planned accordingly so that computer purchases didn’t become obsolete within a couple of months of purchase.

    Likewise, HTC/Google/T-Mobile knew a long time ago that they were pushing the limits of the G1 the day it was released. The cries for lack of storage and A2SD began immediately. Thanks to XDA developers, we at least got that. I pity the folks that remain with stock firmware and can’t even install more than a few of the newer and larger apps without having to do the app shuffle of delete, install, delete, re-install, delete again of apps on an as-need basis.

    Google is not to blame for this fiasco. They are providing an open source OS. T-Mobile and HTC are the one’s that share the blame. T-Mobile for bloating up the software and locking it down … HTC for their continued lack of foresight in almost always cutting corners on every phone they produce.

    Yes, we were early adopters of this new phone and new OS and most of us knew what we were getting into. That still doesn’t relieve our carrier from making efforts to secure us all a decent and working phone for a reasonable amount of time. Considering the battery issues, the headphone issues, and now this tidbit of potential bad news, they should definitely be in the boardroom first thing in the morning trying to decide what they can do to appease the million or so G1 users they currently have. The last thing a fledging operating system (‘iPhone killer’) needs is a strong backlash from the existing userbase crying foul all over the internet. Google needs to jump into the frey as well to protect their OS from getting a bad name.

    It’s not unreasonable to expect the life-cycle of the G1 to be at least 12-18 months. All of the planners involved (HTC, Google, G1, Qualcomm, etc) knew well in advance the Android roadmap. They should have planned accordingly. Since they didn’t, it’s not too much to ask for a steep discount on a second generation Android phone/device.

    And it would also be a good idea for T-Mo to yank all existing G1 phones off the shelves right now. Someone buying one a G1 this late in the game and finding out in just a couple of months that their phone can’t install the new apps coming for 2.0 (or whatever) will certainly have the right to be pissed.

    The companies involved share part of the blame, us early-adopters share part too. There needs to be a compromise … but we don’t need to be abandoned.

  • branon

    If they want you to sign a two year contract for a phone, they should provide reasonable upgrades for those two years at least.

  • http://www.cnn.com Elrich

    Hahahahahahaha I knew it! Google is trying to frack you every chance they get. What a crock!

    F*CK the TP2, by the way. It’s all about the iPhone, baby!

  • -ray

    I believe the G1 has 192mb and the mytouch has 288mb.. Someone, please correct me if I am wrong.

  • KoMarik

    The limitation appears to be in internal flash, and myTouch has 512MB as compared to 256MB for G1. The RAM is the same on both phones: 192MB. Original non T-Mobile-branded HTC Magic has 256MB internal RAM – it’s very unfortunate that T-Mobile decided to get a “stripped-down” version of Magic.

  • joemarine23

    Believe me I work at a retail store for t-mobile and no manager would ever put such a guarantee in writing. Good luck though.

  • Mack

    The mytouch will be fine for at least 2 updates, the Donut and Eclair. It has enough space for that, but I can’t guarantee anything else further than that. Either way just root it, and problem solved :).

  • FILA

    The G1v2 will be coming out by first quarter next year.

  • Chrees

    Where did you get that information from? Last I heard, it was just on the leaked Wal-Mart timeline, set to be released right about now. =/

  • SpanDee

    Well since I just bought an 2010 model car, if the 2011 comes out next year with better features, I will demand a full exchange or my money back…..oh wait, I can’t do that….
    You damn well know you aren’t entitled to something when a new product comes out….that’s like going out for dinner and after you pay, demand they owe you a steak becasue you ate there.

    That’s why you have a 1 year contract option if those things bother you.

    Hell what about the people paying 350 bucks for a new phone when you only paid 179.99 or less?

  • SpanDee

    Oh, wait, also, that is just speculation, there is no real evidence than heresay…

  • FILA

    From a inside T-Mobile source. Yea I saw the time line you saw, the v2 was suppose to be released around fall time. The timeline said between 9.3 & 11.3 but before the Morrison. The Morrison is already confirmed for Fall this year, along with the Galaxy to follow. The myTouch however is T-Mobiles prime device for the year. They don’t want to over shadow it with the G1v2, cause that will truly be the successor to the G1, hence the name, with the QWERTY on it and more people will choose that device over the myTouch. (I know I will)

    Were not seeing any G1v2 anytime soon, we havent even began to see spy shots yet. Time will tell, but dont look forward to it right now.

  • Rushlmore

    Not the same thing. The device was knowingly released witout enough ram and both HTC and Android devs warned about it. G1 owners now have a device that can not even take advantage of the OS beyond the first year beta stage. Class action lawsuit bait.