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		<title>By: TEXAS</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/07/partial-unboxing-tp2-success/comment-page-2/#comment-2968</link>
		<dc:creator>TEXAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texas is the shit! bitch. hate on us.</description>
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		<title>By: blaine</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/07/partial-unboxing-tp2-success/comment-page-2/#comment-2967</link>
		<dc:creator>blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude your kinda a fag &quot;anyone with an ounce of common sense should know from leaked information&quot; you are the biggest loser ever.. let me guess..you still live with your mom and dad huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude your kinda a fag &#8220;anyone with an ounce of common sense should know from leaked information&#8221; you are the biggest loser ever.. let me guess..you still live with your mom and dad huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/07/partial-unboxing-tp2-success/comment-page-1/#comment-2966</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree Brett.  The purpose of early term fees is to HOPE that people get caught up in the concept of not paying it, so they stay with a carrier.

Few people pencil it out and realize that it is often times cheaper to cancel, pay the fee/penalty and go with another carrier.  How can this be?

1.  If going with T-Mo, for example, over the life of a contract will save far more money than the penalty paid.

2.  Instead of paying a higher price for a phone with the current carrier, often times a different carrier will give a free or severely discounted phone for someone to jump ship.  So that amount has to be calculated into the cost of switching.

3.  Some carriers have even paid fees to motivate someone to switch.  But that is not that common.

4.  Lastly, carriers are moving to the proration rule, where the longer one is on contract, the less of the fee or penalty that has to be paid.

Just saying.  I don&#039;t think the penalty is assessed to recoup costs of phones, it&#039;s to keep people from switching by getting them all caught up in avoiding paying a fine or penalty rather than calculating and discovering that it&#039;s a better deal to break the contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree Brett.  The purpose of early term fees is to HOPE that people get caught up in the concept of not paying it, so they stay with a carrier.</p>
<p>Few people pencil it out and realize that it is often times cheaper to cancel, pay the fee/penalty and go with another carrier.  How can this be?</p>
<p>1.  If going with T-Mo, for example, over the life of a contract will save far more money than the penalty paid.</p>
<p>2.  Instead of paying a higher price for a phone with the current carrier, often times a different carrier will give a free or severely discounted phone for someone to jump ship.  So that amount has to be calculated into the cost of switching.</p>
<p>3.  Some carriers have even paid fees to motivate someone to switch.  But that is not that common.</p>
<p>4.  Lastly, carriers are moving to the proration rule, where the longer one is on contract, the less of the fee or penalty that has to be paid.</p>
<p>Just saying.  I don&#8217;t think the penalty is assessed to recoup costs of phones, it&#8217;s to keep people from switching by getting them all caught up in avoiding paying a fine or penalty rather than calculating and discovering that it&#8217;s a better deal to break the contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/07/partial-unboxing-tp2-success/comment-page-1/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett is correct on the loyalty plan, if there are any doubters (not saying there are).

When I signed up for it (when I called on another issue) the rep said &quot;you have been flagged for us to offer the loyalty plan).

He made a point of saying there was no contract tied to it.

By the way, while that sound nice of T-Mo to do it that way, the real reason they did not do that per a contract was so that THEY could yank the pricing.  I remember when he said there was no contract agreement I said to myself that I would prefer a contract so to LOCK T-MO INTO SUCH A GREAT DEAL.  LOL.  (mine is two lines unlimited blah blahing for $90 a month).

As to phones, when I get them at the contract price that does NOT obligate me to a particular plan price (see above), it only obligates me to stay with T-Mo (that I have no problem with since I love T-Mo. They have always been good to me in the six years I have been with them).

Sidenote:  I hear the TP2 will be $250 with a two year contract since T-Mo considers it a high end phone.  $500 w/o contract.  Don&#039;t know how accurate that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett is correct on the loyalty plan, if there are any doubters (not saying there are).</p>
<p>When I signed up for it (when I called on another issue) the rep said &#8220;you have been flagged for us to offer the loyalty plan).</p>
<p>He made a point of saying there was no contract tied to it.</p>
<p>By the way, while that sound nice of T-Mo to do it that way, the real reason they did not do that per a contract was so that THEY could yank the pricing.  I remember when he said there was no contract agreement I said to myself that I would prefer a contract so to LOCK T-MO INTO SUCH A GREAT DEAL.  LOL.  (mine is two lines unlimited blah blahing for $90 a month).</p>
<p>As to phones, when I get them at the contract price that does NOT obligate me to a particular plan price (see above), it only obligates me to stay with T-Mo (that I have no problem with since I love T-Mo. They have always been good to me in the six years I have been with them).</p>
<p>Sidenote:  I hear the TP2 will be $250 with a two year contract since T-Mo considers it a high end phone.  $500 w/o contract.  Don&#8217;t know how accurate that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mortimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was almost ready to buy a myTouch. But I talked to a CSR today and asked what phones were coming up.  He looked on his list and said the TP2 is on his list to debut on or before Aug. 12.  So I am going to get the TP2.  We will have the Android G1 and the MS TP2 and I can see which I like better.

Different phones, for sure.  I LOVE the G1 and it&#039;s Android apps.  But the TP2 has the ability to open MS Office programs/files which I also like (and need).

Also, at the official T-Mo forums there is a member who posted that he has the TP2 and has been using it for two weeks.  He likes it.  He also has a G1 to compare it with.

I asked him for further info.

Here is the link:

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=07&amp;thread.id=563</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was almost ready to buy a myTouch. But I talked to a CSR today and asked what phones were coming up.  He looked on his list and said the TP2 is on his list to debut on or before Aug. 12.  So I am going to get the TP2.  We will have the Android G1 and the MS TP2 and I can see which I like better.</p>
<p>Different phones, for sure.  I LOVE the G1 and it&#8217;s Android apps.  But the TP2 has the ability to open MS Office programs/files which I also like (and need).</p>
<p>Also, at the official T-Mo forums there is a member who posted that he has the TP2 and has been using it for two weeks.  He likes it.  He also has a G1 to compare it with.</p>
<p>I asked him for further info.</p>
<p>Here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=07&amp;thread.id=563" rel="nofollow">http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=07&amp;thread.id=563</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mortimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB6464... is your loyalty plan $50 for each line.  I assume it is because mine is two lines, unlimited talking, for $90 total.  And separately (not part of the loyalty plan) $25 ea for data.  So for the two lines after taxes I am paying $149 a month.

Let me know if you are getting a better deal.  If so, I&#039;m dialing 611.  :)

Thanks for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB6464&#8230; is your loyalty plan $50 for each line.  I assume it is because mine is two lines, unlimited talking, for $90 total.  And separately (not part of the loyalty plan) $25 ea for data.  So for the two lines after taxes I am paying $149 a month.</p>
<p>Let me know if you are getting a better deal.  If so, I&#8217;m dialing 611.  <img src='http://www.tmonews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mortimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, any &quot;first&quot; commenters should be deleted, from here and the Net. (And the planet for a second violation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, any &#8220;first&#8221; commenters should be deleted, from here and the Net. (And the planet for a second violation).</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way they did the hardware buttons makes it look cheap. like some cheap little LG phone. they should have left them all at the same level, like the original HTC version, instead of putting a space in between all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way they did the hardware buttons makes it look cheap. like some cheap little LG phone. they should have left them all at the same level, like the original HTC version, instead of putting a space in between all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, sorry late to respond. I tried yesterday but this
site was having trouble.

Sorry about that CSR you spoke with Print on 042410, the
loyalty plan did not require an agreement. In most cases
especially with promotional plans, there would be an
agreement. However, the loyalty plan offer was an exception to this but would explain the CSR&#039;s mistake.

JB6464, The loyalty plan is a voice plan that did not require agreement. Upgrades, purchasing a new phone at a dicount, is an inteirely seperate ballgame. So im not saying there is not agreement require while ON the lyalty plan, im state there is no agreement require to migrate TO the loyalty plan. Hope this clears that up for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, sorry late to respond. I tried yesterday but this<br />
site was having trouble.</p>
<p>Sorry about that CSR you spoke with Print on 042410, the<br />
loyalty plan did not require an agreement. In most cases<br />
especially with promotional plans, there would be an<br />
agreement. However, the loyalty plan offer was an exception to this but would explain the CSR&#8217;s mistake.</p>
<p>JB6464, The loyalty plan is a voice plan that did not require agreement. Upgrades, purchasing a new phone at a dicount, is an inteirely seperate ballgame. So im not saying there is not agreement require while ON the lyalty plan, im state there is no agreement require to migrate TO the loyalty plan. Hope this clears that up for you.</p>
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		<title>By: JB6464</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB6464</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the loyalty plan($49.99/month for unlimited minutes and text)on three accounts and T-mobile tells me i Must have the Data Plan to upgrade or extend to any new smartphone. So what are you trying to say when you state that there is no agreement required when on the loyalty plans ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the loyalty plan($49.99/month for unlimited minutes and text)on three accounts and T-mobile tells me i Must have the Data Plan to upgrade or extend to any new smartphone. So what are you trying to say when you state that there is no agreement required when on the loyalty plans ?</p>
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