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		<title>By: bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16233</link>
		<dc:creator>bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sorry but forcing data plans is just too much.  i am a college student at Long Beach State and everyday i check my email before i go to class to see if a class  is canceled, reminders from professors.  For me, the data plan is useless because one i enter the parking lot of the school wifi is available, not only at the parking lot but all through out the school.  What is the need for data when you have wifi.  It will not only enable me to browse the web but also updates email clients and wheather and all that good stuff.  other than that i dont need the data plan outside school but at home which i also do not need because i have wifi running in the house.  but when im on the go.  i only use my phone to make calls as well as receive calls.  i say we should have the decision whether or not we should add a data plan to our phone. My blackberry does what it needs to do when i get to school, to inform me through email, and when i get bored in class i browse the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sorry but forcing data plans is just too much.  i am a college student at Long Beach State and everyday i check my email before i go to class to see if a class  is canceled, reminders from professors.  For me, the data plan is useless because one i enter the parking lot of the school wifi is available, not only at the parking lot but all through out the school.  What is the need for data when you have wifi.  It will not only enable me to browse the web but also updates email clients and wheather and all that good stuff.  other than that i dont need the data plan outside school but at home which i also do not need because i have wifi running in the house.  but when im on the go.  i only use my phone to make calls as well as receive calls.  i say we should have the decision whether or not we should add a data plan to our phone. My blackberry does what it needs to do when i get to school, to inform me through email, and when i get bored in class i browse the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that VZW&#039;s 25 dollar data plan only covers data... for that phone. Where as TMo&#039;s data plans (even on their 3G devices) cover a higher GB (VZW is 5GB, before they throtle you), 400 messages, and allows for tethered modem on supported devices. To get that on a VZW phone you would have to pay sixty and get a messaging plan, and the speeds for their none rev A devices (read most of their PDAs) is really not all that much faster then a UMTS device, and in some cases slower then HSDPA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that VZW&#8217;s 25 dollar data plan only covers data&#8230; for that phone. Where as TMo&#8217;s data plans (even on their 3G devices) cover a higher GB (VZW is 5GB, before they throtle you), 400 messages, and allows for tethered modem on supported devices. To get that on a VZW phone you would have to pay sixty and get a messaging plan, and the speeds for their none rev A devices (read most of their PDAs) is really not all that much faster then a UMTS device, and in some cases slower then HSDPA.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16231</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@justanotheremployee

In your opinion do you see tmobile possibly lowering the price of their data plans to retain their value focus? The reason I ask is that I&#039;ve been under the assumption that they are just going to force everyone to add a $30 data plan, plus messaging etc now you are priced with verizon for edge service while everyone else is on 3g.

IF that holds true then sprint will replace tmobile as a value leader given the benefits/pricing of their family data plan.

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<p>In your opinion do you see tmobile possibly lowering the price of their data plans to retain their value focus? The reason I ask is that I&#8217;ve been under the assumption that they are just going to force everyone to add a $30 data plan, plus messaging etc now you are priced with verizon for edge service while everyone else is on 3g.</p>
<p>IF that holds true then sprint will replace tmobile as a value leader given the benefits/pricing of their family data plan.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering if Tmobile will do this in shifts?  For 3g areas and non 3g areas.  I have been with Tmobile for over 6 years and out of contract and was looking forward to the TP2 but was not going to get the data plan until they established 3g in my area.  I just can&#039;t see paying that much for edge service.

@JustAnother Employee

   I know Tmobile would change if they start bleeding but the damage might already have been done.  I can see the person now &quot;I have to pay that much for edge???!!!??&quot;  Just don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a good idea right now.  If they have a major 3g deployment before this it might be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if Tmobile will do this in shifts?  For 3g areas and non 3g areas.  I have been with Tmobile for over 6 years and out of contract and was looking forward to the TP2 but was not going to get the data plan until they established 3g in my area.  I just can&#8217;t see paying that much for edge service.</p>
<p>@JustAnother Employee</p>
<p>   I know Tmobile would change if they start bleeding but the damage might already have been done.  I can see the person now &#8220;I have to pay that much for edge???!!!??&#8221;  Just don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s a good idea right now.  If they have a major 3g deployment before this it might be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAnotherEmployee</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16230</link>
		<dc:creator>JustAnotherEmployee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This argument should be looked at from a different perspective: T-Mobile has recently lowered the prices on a number of rate plans - the 49.99 Loyalty rate plan, the 1800 minute MyFaves plan with M2M for the same price as 1000 minutes without M2M are just two examples - to compete with the Metro/Boost crowd, so it is clear that T-Mobile is still trying to reach the low-cost/high-value subscriber.

On the other hand, if you&#039;ve got the money for a new smartphone in this troubled economic envoronment, and are not simply buying one to impress the chicks at the club, you NEED a data plan and can probably afford it, too.

REMEMBER THIS, though:

If this change adversely affects the bottom line, i.e., if T-Mobile starts bleeding customers because of the new data plan requirements, believe me, the Big Boys in Bellevue will drop it in record time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This argument should be looked at from a different perspective: T-Mobile has recently lowered the prices on a number of rate plans &#8211; the 49.99 Loyalty rate plan, the 1800 minute MyFaves plan with M2M for the same price as 1000 minutes without M2M are just two examples &#8211; to compete with the Metro/Boost crowd, so it is clear that T-Mobile is still trying to reach the low-cost/high-value subscriber.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you&#8217;ve got the money for a new smartphone in this troubled economic envoronment, and are not simply buying one to impress the chicks at the club, you NEED a data plan and can probably afford it, too.</p>
<p>REMEMBER THIS, though:</p>
<p>If this change adversely affects the bottom line, i.e., if T-Mobile starts bleeding customers because of the new data plan requirements, believe me, the Big Boys in Bellevue will drop it in record time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is BS!  This seems to punish the loyal customers who have patiently been waiting for the 3G footprint to hit their cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is BS!  This seems to punish the loyal customers who have patiently been waiting for the 3G footprint to hit their cities.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16229</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More customers means more operating costs.  The network does not have limitless capabilities.  It has to be expanded as more people get on it.  So, more people also means more cost.  3G only adds to the cost.  In my market, we already pay millions of dollars a year for 2G circuits.  3G will probably increase monthly costs for circuits by about 35-40% initially.  As more customers get on 3G, that will likely double.  If T-Mobile were to keep data plan prices the way they are, they would not be able to provide faster data rates due to that cost.  It may cost you a few customers, but if you deliver the data rates you will gain more profitable customers.  Those are the customers you will need if you want to build out a 3G network and begin a 4G network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More customers means more operating costs.  The network does not have limitless capabilities.  It has to be expanded as more people get on it.  So, more people also means more cost.  3G only adds to the cost.  In my market, we already pay millions of dollars a year for 2G circuits.  3G will probably increase monthly costs for circuits by about 35-40% initially.  As more customers get on 3G, that will likely double.  If T-Mobile were to keep data plan prices the way they are, they would not be able to provide faster data rates due to that cost.  It may cost you a few customers, but if you deliver the data rates you will gain more profitable customers.  Those are the customers you will need if you want to build out a 3G network and begin a 4G network.</p>
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		<title>By: kyouki</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16216</link>
		<dc:creator>kyouki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To many people are just jumping to concutions! Just chill and wait for the changes, first don&#039;t worry if your grandfather you get to keep your rates, second the kids on here saying can&#039;t wait for t-mobile to force me so I can get out of my terms, stop being dumb, tmobile not breaking any terms because they are not changing your current terms there inforcing future contract you sign when geting a data plan so give that one up you agreed to your contract, witch if you read states tmobile hold the right to change rates at anytime. 3rd this is a good thing it does cost tmobile a lot money that customers don&#039;t understand, it takes an average of 10 months for tmobile to make money off a new customer this will speed that up allowing for faster groth.  And sorry for any bad grammer or misspells I am also using my g1 to post very fast, and guess what it with a data plan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To many people are just jumping to concutions! Just chill and wait for the changes, first don&#8217;t worry if your grandfather you get to keep your rates, second the kids on here saying can&#8217;t wait for t-mobile to force me so I can get out of my terms, stop being dumb, tmobile not breaking any terms because they are not changing your current terms there inforcing future contract you sign when geting a data plan so give that one up you agreed to your contract, witch if you read states tmobile hold the right to change rates at anytime. 3rd this is a good thing it does cost tmobile a lot money that customers don&#8217;t understand, it takes an average of 10 months for tmobile to make money off a new customer this will speed that up allowing for faster groth.  And sorry for any bad grammer or misspells I am also using my g1 to post very fast, and guess what it with a data plan!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-mobile T-Mobile T_mobile...

When will people realize that although we are in somewhat of a struggle, lower prices = more people.
Equals everyone wins!

+/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-mobile T-Mobile T_mobile&#8230;</p>
<p>When will people realize that although we are in somewhat of a struggle, lower prices = more people.<br />
Equals everyone wins!</p>
<p>+/</p>
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		<title>By: Big S</title>
		<link>http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/small-changes-to-datamessaging-plans/comment-page-2/#comment-16215</link>
		<dc:creator>Big S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ AC I was only speaking to the fact that people buy laptop mostly for the internet, I am not that dumb I know the laptop does a lot more then that.. I didn’t think I needed to waste my time typing all the other stuff considering this has been the argument that hole time, why buy a smart phone only to use half of the phone and the other half say they don’t need the internet on the phone…. I really don’t care what people do with their phone to be honest….

I SAY THIS AND I AM DONE ON THIS TOPIC…. IF YOU BUY A SMARTPHONE OR ANY PHONE FOR THAT MATTER READ THE DIRECTIONS BEFORE YOU CALL CST CARE TO FIND OUT HOW TO USE YOU PHONE…..I get more calls with people asking how to change there myfaves, ring tone, volume, check their voicemail…need I say more…. take 30 min to look over the manual and another hour to play with the phone before you call us to get help….I have also read in hear before that cst service is not as nice as they use to be… I WONDER why getting bombarded with STUPID @55 questions….</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ AC I was only speaking to the fact that people buy laptop mostly for the internet, I am not that dumb I know the laptop does a lot more then that.. I didn’t think I needed to waste my time typing all the other stuff considering this has been the argument that hole time, why buy a smart phone only to use half of the phone and the other half say they don’t need the internet on the phone…. I really don’t care what people do with their phone to be honest….</p>
<p>I SAY THIS AND I AM DONE ON THIS TOPIC…. IF YOU BUY A SMARTPHONE OR ANY PHONE FOR THAT MATTER READ THE DIRECTIONS BEFORE YOU CALL CST CARE TO FIND OUT HOW TO USE YOU PHONE…..I get more calls with people asking how to change there myfaves, ring tone, volume, check their voicemail…need I say more…. take 30 min to look over the manual and another hour to play with the phone before you call us to get help….I have also read in hear before that cst service is not as nice as they use to be… I WONDER why getting bombarded with STUPID @55 questions….</p>
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