Small Changes To Data/Messaging Plans!

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Well its been a while since we’ve last seen T-mobile make any major changes to data plans and last time we got pretty much a total overhaul. Well, apparently 7 months was long enough and its time for a little revamp. Boygenius just ran a story about the Family Text Message changing from $19.99 to $24.95 a month. While still lower than the competition, in this economic climate, every dollar counts and you would think our benevolent low cost carrier would go in the opposite direction, but oh well, still a good deal. That’s not at all however, a minor change will also come at the lower end of the messaging scale, the smallest package currently available is $5 for 400 messages, well that’s going to change to $5 for 300 messages. Our source pegs these changes on May 27th though BoyGenius is running with “sometime” in June. 

Aside from the small price changes, T-mobile is also reporting a change in T-mobile stance regarding data plans with smartphones. Adopting a more AT&T/Verizon model, all smartphones will now be required to have an add on data plan, save for the BlackBerry Pearl, BlackBerry Pearl Flip, Samsung Behold or Samsung Memoir. Also slated for a “sometime” in June launch. 

Via Boygenius

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  • Queen4111

    I don’t think they should “FORCE” the data plan on all smartphones, esp if the phone has WiFi capabilities.

  • Oh lawd… it’s just like nothing in the world follow’s the condition of society, and our economy, and recession. Who in the hell got money to keep paying for stuff like that. T-Mobile is just putting themselves in a bad position. Their already the 4th largest carrier. I mean they’re growing, but with stuff like this, it sure as h**l is not gonna help them in anyway, shape, or form.

  • SoTacMatt

    Is that for all customers? Including those already on the $19.99 a month plan?

    Here they go, dinging the “Working Man” (key Rush song)

  • Galen20K

    Wow… Forced Data Plans STINK!!!

    I’ve ALways had one because they’ve always been Useful for me but what if I was somebody who wants that Flashy New Phone but don’t have any need for Data reallY?

    I feel bad for those people because now they’ll be forced to settle for a Chincy cheap phone or pay for a service they don’t need.

  • rudy

    instead of trying to give customers more tmo just takes away, glad i have my 400 text for 5 dollars.
    and forcing data plans is dumb, car manufactures don’t force yhou to buy addons on a car how do cell providers get away with it.

  • Will

    As far as these data plans they should lower the price with the increase in demand or allow you to pay a higher upgrade price for a smart phone so that you are not require to have a data plan. I’ve been looking at getting a Palm Tero Pro unlock I wonder if they would be able to force a data plan if I slip the sim card in at home.

  • Steve

    I’m one of those individuals who has a smart phone but no data plan. I only use texting at this point but I just enjoy having the powerful capabilities of a more advanced phone. I just don’t understand why/how carriers can “force” their clients to sign up for services they don’t need or want.

    I’ve been a long time t-mobile customer in part because of their favorable pricing but with one swoop…..sprint’s pricing all of a sudden looks mighty nice. Unlimited family data plan includes 1500 minutes, unlimited text, blackberry e-mail, gps, tv and radio services! Why can’t Tmobile run something like this? IF I added correctly, T-mobile would charge me close to $160 a month and they don’t offer gps or any mobile entertainment services…..talk about a bad move!

  • Anthony

    That sucks! Now I got to pay $5 more! I wonder how much that internet plan is going to be now??

  • ChampagneDreams

    So someone please tell me what classifies the Behold and Memoir as smartphones??? Cuz my Behold doesnt do a damn thing that a smartphone can do.

  • oZ

    As T-Mobile continues its slow march toward becoming Verizon…

  • Bravehard

    That’s crazy, forced to a data plan, I thought t-mobile was about people
    saving money. I guess its ruff!! And for those people that don’t use a data
    plan they are forced to get one. So they’re paying for something they don’t even use no love whats so ever!!! :(

  • wagonis

    Keep it up T-Mobile, bring on more reasons to switch over to a company like Boost or Metro.

  • sanjay

    I understand they need to increase revenue. What sucks is that us loyal customers have been waiting and waiting for their 3G and new phones (still way behind) and only because they are a more value carrier. Then when they get close they start raising the prices and behaving more like Their competitors thus making us wonder why we stuck around.

  • Steve

    does this constitute a “material and adverse” change in terms of service allowing for early cancellation penalty free?

    F.Y.I. I just called customer care to confirm and they don’t know anything yet but suggested that I e-mail corporate to express my viewpoints which I did. I’ll let you know if I hear anything back.

  • math

    your SOURCE didn’t pay attention in training. It ALL begins on June 3.

  • Be realistic

    Really??? Everyone is complaining about being forced to add data on a blackberry or smartphone, well heres news for you, thats what they are made for! These phones are intended to browse the internet and receive e-mails, so if your not one who likes doing either, don’t buy a blackberry or smartphone. It’s sad that these phones are used more as status symbols then useful communication tools. If you want a texting phone with a full QWERTY buy a Gravity or one of the 4 full texting phones they will be coming out with in the future. You can’t blame a company for covering the costs of building a 3G network by increasing the costs to use that network. Remember people, these companies are not Non-Profit organizations, it is about being profitable. These cell phone carriers are not the problem, it’s the expectations of the consumer that is the real issue. Be realistic, if your not going to use a blackberry/smartphone to browse the internet, don’t buy the device. Brick Breaker shouldn’t be the main reason your getting a blackberry.

  • Steve

    @ be realistic

    I don’t consider my Dash a status symbol, I just prefer the strong PIM functions that a smartphone can offer along with a qwerty keyboard so I don’t have to carry a pda and phone separately.

    I doubt that tmobile has been losing money all this time by NOT charging for data and they for sure are not giving away smartphones! The cheapest one is $100 with a two year contract! They are just doing what every other carrier is doing and that is squeezing more revenue out of their subscriber base.

  • Peter

    @be realistic

    Why don’t you just shut up and let us decide? Who put you in charge of telling us what we should or shouldn’t get? If I want a “smart” phone without data plan that’s my choice and I don’t need you to tell me otherwise. For your information those phones can be used to browse the net without a data plan.

  • brooke

    ok, I don’t need a data plan for my shadow they shouldn’t force it less people are gonna buy their new smart phones coming out and I don’t wanna pay five dollars a month for texting

  • cormor

    Its pointless to have a data phone without the data anyway

  • Big S

    WOW realistic your right!!!! Just so you all know t-mobile is very behind in the revenue they bring in, they do think of YOU the cst, if you already have the phone and you dont have the data plan they cant make you add it, they can adv YOU the cst what your not getting out of your phone so YOU are wasting the money on a phone that you dont use all the phone can do..

  • FILA

    come on T, seriously, just leave things alone, before we loose respect for you. Doesnt effect me YET…It will when I have to add a data plan on my new TP2, lol

  • Tremor

    I love the Mr. T Mobile

  • Roger

    OK guys, I can understand both sides. On one hand, the company wants everyone with a smartphone to take advantage of it’s capabilities, as well as making the company a few extra bucks. T-Mo is the smallest of the 4 carriers, remember! They need the extra money more than big V does. On the other hand, however, there are a lot of cheap people who don’t want to be ‘forced’ to get data on their shiny new smartphone. But as others have said, if you don’t need data folks, go buy a Samsung t109.

  • G1 lover

    @realistic I completely agree with you 100% half of my customer base that have a blackberry or another smart phone don’t even know how to use it.and let’s face it most of the smartphones are useless without the internet. I don’t wanna hear about that wifi argument because honestly its getting old wifi is not everywhere

  • Tito

    why would you want half a phone? I never understood why anyone would want to buy a data phone and not get the data plan.

    Car manufacturers don’t force options… really?

    Go to a dealership, and try buying a flashy sportscar (like a Lancer Evolution) without A/C, cruise control, stereo/CD, hubcaps, power locks/keyless entry, power windows, turbo charger, sunroof, etc.

    Oh yeah, and try using unleaded regular gasoline instead of premium to save money and you’ll screw up the engine.

    If you can’t afford the data plan, you have no business with a data phone. There are many flashy dumb phones to choose from, even with full keyboards (gravity, behold, memoir)

    They started getting devices like the G1 which requires the data plan because of the advanced features. People complained “no other phone requires the data plan”, well, this is the result. I for one support it because now this opens up innovation on data phones because now everyone has to have the connection for those innovations to work.

  • Chuong

    Since when did AT&T force data plan on customers with its branded smartphones except the iPhone? The data plan is only required for rebate purpose.

    Not everyone needs a data plan even if he/she uses a smartphone.

  • Rommel

    Does this apply to unlocked phone users?-i have three lines,all nokia n-series.

  • j

    Blast, I was really hoping to get the Magic/myTouch and then cancel my data plan. I simply have no need for it. Maybe this will be one of those things that you’ll really have to beg them to cancel it. I have TMo anyway, and I’d love a discounted phone… but doing the math, it works out to $600 for a 2 year contract. That same $600 can buy me one heck of a nice Android phone in the coming months, without the forced “features.”

  • math

    @Rommel your safe only applies to tmo devices purchased june 3 and forward with a one or two year contract. a few are exempt like the pearl and dash. btw the cost is less than the force data plans you will receive at att sprint or vzw.

  • Andy

    t-mobile OFFICIALLY has gone off the deep end! They are no longer known as the cheap carrier in my opinion. You might as well be shelling out the same price for better 3G, and more phone variety, all at the same price!! This is seriously making me want to switch to AT & T.

  • TMOemployee

    Ok here’s the deal, when you ‘upgrade’ or start a new line of service if you want to receive the two year contract pricing you have to agree to have a data plan on that line for the entire two year agreement for that phone discount, if you don’t want the data plan you have to pay retail for the phone.

  • Steve-o

    I totally agree with Be Realistic…..what’s the purpose of a smart phone if you aren’t going to use it as a “smart phone?” That’s like buying a car & then deciding not to drive it. Here’s another thing…yeah…it is your money but if you are going to complain about the economic conditions we are in, you probably shouldn’t be dishing out money for a smart phone in the first place….especially if you aren’t going to use the device fully.

  • It’s not just a data phone

    All of you calling it a “data phone” need to rethink that description. These phones do more than just data, and not everybody needs to check their weather or their myspace or email “on the go.” These phones are powerful and can be used for so many other things than just data. Forcing people to have a data plan is plain stupid. I currently use an unlocked Kaiser on t-mobile, and use it daily as a music player in my car (through bluetooth streaming), mp3 player on my bike rides, GPS for driving and GPS for hiking/geocaching, I use it as an organizer/planner, an occasional impromptu picture, playing games, finishing up HW on the go (yes I’ve done this twice already, Word Mobile), etc…there are so many reasons someone could have a phone and not need a data plan. So it’s not pointless. Maybe people don’t really know how amazing these little phones are. Hackable so far beyond the basic WM platform it originally comes in. T-mo is not looking real good right now.

  • barban

    Smartphones aren’t useless without data plans. Data is only a small part of them. You guys to do realize that people can do work on smartphones using programs like office mobile. The advanced calender and address book features. You can still have tons of apps without data. There are people that don’t need to check their email every 2 minutes and browse the web all the time.So data plan shouldnt be forced on people. That’s like forcing you to get an ISP when buying a computer.

  • SpanDee

    @Tito-
    So True!!! I could agree more…

    Because of this you’ll see more phones being released and all the things the people complain on here will get fixed, more money = more phones (3G Blackberry, TP2, Android), Larger 3G network and LTE, thus everyone will be happy. If not, get a metro or cricket and enjoy that WAP :)

    Stop being cheap!

  • barban

    @Tito

    No such thing as a data phone. Most phones can do data..including dumbphones. If you’re getting a smartphone for just data, then you wasted money.

  • math

    @Andy LOL you are seriously a fool. Go on to ATT and then report back HOW MUCH MORE you will be spending with their REQUIRED DATA PLAN and monthly fees. Stop crying.

  • Skyboxer

    Well I was really rooting for Sprint and the Pre to be successful anyway. If your going to be locked out of a cool phone anyway you might as well either go to boost and pay 50 bucks per month even, or double down and to with sprints 100 buck plan and the Pre.
    My only hope is they use the money to build more service area which will equal more subscriers. Verizon has more subscribers because they have more coverage. Adding LTE to the few cities that have 3G isnt gonna cut it. If I have to pay Verizon rates with TMO I better be getting Verizon coverage too. If this happens I’ll stick with TMO simply because Verizon is evil incarnate.

  • the_wizard

    This is absurd…a business trying to make money? T-Mobile has ruined any chance of me staying. I want the BEST PHONES for FREE, and I don’t want to pay anything more than $10.00 for UNLIMITED EVERYTHING. I can’t understand for the life of me how the people that gripe about wanting better phones and a better network but don’t want to pay for anything. And here is a grand idea….why don’t you wait until you actually know ALL of the details before freaking out because of something that was leaked on the internet. @Steve, you will be grandfathered in until you choose to purchase a new data device WITH the data plan which means that you will be accepting the 2 year agreement and the new terms. In the past 2 years, there has been once change that has allowed you to break your contract ETF free, so clearly T-Mobile does not want to go out of their way to alienate all of their current customers.

  • Be realistic

    It’s nice to see that other people feel the way that I do..

  • ala

    whoever said the wifi thing is a moot point.. that’s bull. i have wifi at my work, i have wifi at my school, and i have wifi at home. school and work is where i would use the phone’s internet the most. i don’t need a data plan for that.

    maybe i am the exception to most users. i don’t know.

    i just want uma, wifi internet, qwerty keyboard, and music player

  • AC

    Being forced to sign up for a data plan when signing up for a new 2-year contract and buying a smartphone using the discounts is understandable. If the “cost” for no data plan is the lack of the discounts, then so be it. The stink a few people have raised here about smartphone users not signing up for data plans simply because we have smartphones… isn’t quite so understandable.

    For one, the car analogy is off. Requiring a data plan for a smartphone is not the same as requiring fuel, type of fuel, or hardware features like AC, stereo/CD, etc. on a car. Those would be more analogous to requiring electricity or keeping hardware features like the camera, bluetooth, etc. intact on a phone. Requiring a data plan is more like… requiring a subscription for GPS traffic updates or OnStar service simply because I want the sports car and not the economy sedan.

    Secondly, how is having a smartphone without a data plan different from having a “dumb” phone without a data plan for T-Mobile? How would either of those “open up innovation?”

    Lastly, our business in using smartphones without a data plan is none of yours.

  • J

    The problem with using the “computer and forcing to get an ISP” arguement is that when you buy a computer that computer isn’t being subsidized. You pay full price. That is why T-Mobile isn’t forcing those with unbranded phones into data plans. When T-Mobile prices a phone at $100, they do so with the thinking that the money they are losing will be made up through the customer’s data usage. People keep complaining about T-Mobile charging more and stuff, but then they complain about them being behind on technology. Without the added revenue, they will always be behind on technology. Thats how the game works.

    If you tihnk T-Mobile isn’t your best value, try Billshrink.com to find out.

  • barban

    The phones are already subsidized when signing a new contract. I don’t think we’re going to see an even lower price just because data plans are mandatory.

  • Cormor

    Customers do not realize how expensive it is for carriers to provide wireless service. It takes $100,000 just to set up one tower, and T-Mobile just spent Billions of dollars purchasing spectrum for their 3g network, and yet they still offer the cheapest plans. Plus they do have to purchase the phones. T-Mobile does not make the phone, but they give discounts in exchange for a 2 year contract. So I completely see why they would require data on smart phones even if you don’t need it because they provide you a discount, less than what they spent of the phone. You could buy it retail or purchase it from the manufacturer and then not get data. And I’m sure if you have a grandfathered text/data bundle, T-Mobile will not force you to change or add features. Please stop being spoiled. The person who said those complaining about recession is totally on par when they said those customers shouldn’t be spending high prices on data phones anyway. Plus you’re 39.99 a month rate plan will not pay for T-Mobile to get new phones or a new expensive 4g network. Stop crying please.

  • Anthony

    Cormor.. ^^^^^.. U work on wall st. rite.. LMAO..

  • the_wizard

    @AC, it is no ones business how you use your phone until you go into a public forum and open up discussion about how you use your phone lol. Let me spell it out a little more clearly for anyone who is still having trouble grasping the concept…the data phone with a data plan is a choice. If you want it that’s great, if not there is no gun to your head. In fact, t-mobile offers a great option called flexpay where you don’t even have to sign a contract, so maybe you could consider this. Already have a postpaid plan? Well then buy the phone at retail price or buy an unlocked phone so you won’t have to accept the new 2 yr plan. It really is that simple. Also, if you are concerned with the full price of the phone t-mobile offers a great option called the equipment installment plan so you can spread part and sometimes all of your phone price over a 4 month period. Bottomline, it is a business and t-mobile is still the leader by far when it comes to value; though the other things that people are consistently dissatisfied with is the lack of phones and lack of 3G and this is a business plan modeled arond increasing revenue

  • GoddeZz

    I SEE NO POINT IN BUYING A PHONE WITH SO MANY CAPABILITIES AND NOT USE IT TO ITS FULL ADVANTAGE. AND LETS FACE WIFI ISNT EVERYWHERE. I GOT THE G1 AND YEAH 35$ FOR A DATA PLAN IS KIND OF STEEP BUT I CHOSE THAT AND IM HAPPY WITH IT.

    ARE THE SIDEKICKS CONSIDERED SMARTPHONES, NO RIGHT?

  • the_wizard

    Continued……this plan is modeled around revenue to help improve upon those weaker areas to provide the best customer experience possible. (Sorry for making this 2 post, I am typing this on my G1….with a data plan)

  • J

    The phones are not fully subsidized by the 2 year contract. Not anymore anyway. The phone is only a small portion of what your monthly fee has to cover. It has to cover leases for cell sites, transport costs, labor costs, and equipment replacement to just name a few items. Then T-mobile pays for any of your roaming costs on top of that. Those costs only increase when you go to 3G and eventually 4G.

  • Chuong

    @ math

    Since when did AT&T require a mandatory data plan (for the entire contract) on any smartphone except the iPhone?

  • GoddeZz

    @WIZARD

    LOL, YOU HAD TO SPECIFY THAT IN THERE…HILARIOUS

  • dantek

    I have the old $4.99 tzone plan. If I was to buy tmobile’s branded touch pro 2 from someone other than tmobile. Would I still be able to browse the internet, check email with my tzone plan? or will I see a webpage asking me to subscribe to the data plan?

  • Big S

    WHEN YOU BUY A LAPOP DO YOU NEED A LAPTOP STICK FOR THE INTERNET YES YOU DO…(UNLESS YOU STEAL IT FROM SOME ONE THAT USEING A WIRELESS ROUTER AND THEY DIDNT ADD A PASSWORD, OR WHEN YOU GOT HOTSPOT LOCATIONS) THIS IS THE SAME THING YOU NEED TO GET THE INTERNET TO RUN THE PHONE FOR ALL IT FUNCTIONS UNLESS THE PHONE HAS WIFI AND YOU LINK UP TO THE ROUTER OR HP LOCATION…..

  • Rommel

    @math-thanks.

  • Panic

    I like having choices and tmobile is usually very good about that. This doesn’t effect me, but, I don’t like the idea. At the very least they should offer subscribers the option of not subscribing to the data plan and in return those consumers may have to pay a little more. Essentially reducing the rebate if you don’t sign up for the data plan when buy a smart phone.

  • AC

    @the_wizard

    Yeah, I got that from TMOemployee’s comment, and there’s really no complaint from me about that. However T-Mobile wants to sell their phones under contract is their business — they are a business after all, and IMO better than all the others in various aspects with a fairly large network. What I don’t quite understand are the attitudes some here have about people with smartphones without data plans, and that they should get “dumb” phones instead, as if internet access is by mandate all a smartphone is good and should be used for.

    @Big S

    A laptop has more applications than just the browser. It’s capable of productivity, organization, games, music, movies, etc. Internet access can be had at home via ethernet or WiFi, or out and about at locations that offer WiFi access — stealing isn’t necessary. If you need to be online all the time and wherever you are, like if you’re on the road all the time, then yes, you would need a Laptop Stick or similar. This applies for smartphones as well. Smartphones don’t need internet access for all of the functions I mentioned for the laptop. If and when they do need internet access, they can go online via WiFi, bluetooth, or USB. If you need to check email, look up map directions, download apps, and check social networking updates on the fly, then yes, you definitely need a data plan.

  • AC

    @ Panic

    I think that’s how it’s going to be, based on TMOemployee’s and the_wizard’s comments, only that there will be no rebates at all, and one would have to buy the phone at full price if they get it from T-Mobile.

  • barban

    @AC

    I think these people are really internet oriented. A lot of people just use their computer to browse the web. Same thing for smartphones. They can’t comprehend that there are so much more to smartphones. I think they should get dumphones if all they use are web browsers and e-mail.

  • math

    @Chuong I was referring to the iphone however ATT is rolling out the same requirement in June.

  • Wizzyconsin

    all the people on here that say if i dont want a smartphone for its basic capabilities then not buy a smart phone can really just kiss the fattest part of my ass. If i want to buy a phone with a full keyboard, i will pay greatly more than i need to for it just in the store. why do i need their forced data package? all of the actions that tombile has done up until now are working out for them now. they have you actually BELIEVING that a phone HAS to come with this package and service! It SHOULD be like a car (especially since both almost need loans now). you want this feature? pay for it. you dont want it? fine but you dont get the full functionality of the phone but its still usable and fun. get a mind of your own, people. stop letting tmobile do the thinking for you. I, for one, cant wait to see them change our terms of agreement so that I can jump from this sinking ship.

  • steve

    I still don’t think this is right. Again, Tmobile isn’t losing money! They are profitable. As far as the subsidy on phones goes we need to keep in mind that while they are picking up the cost of part of the phone (in exchange for a 2 year contract) they are not paying retail for the phones! That $500 MSRP phone is probably costing them less than half direct through RIMM or whomever and we pay what….$100 or $200 for a new service activation? That doesn’t fly with me.

    If I add it up all correctly, they will now be priced almost as high as verizon for comparable voice/data services but without the coverage. That just doesn’t make sense for someone who is supposed to be a value provider. I hate to say it but sprint is looking pretty nice right now….you get more for your money AND pay less.

    And for those who say if you don’t want to be forced into a data plan don’t upgrade that will only work for so long. Let’s be honest, most cell phones last what, 2 or 3 years at most? You may not want to upgrade but you almost have to because of equipment failure.

  • Big S

    @ AC I was only speaking to the fact that people buy laptop mostly for the internet, I am not that dumb I know the laptop does a lot more then that.. I didn’t think I needed to waste my time typing all the other stuff considering this has been the argument that hole time, why buy a smart phone only to use half of the phone and the other half say they don’t need the internet on the phone…. I really don’t care what people do with their phone to be honest….

    I SAY THIS AND I AM DONE ON THIS TOPIC…. IF YOU BUY A SMARTPHONE OR ANY PHONE FOR THAT MATTER READ THE DIRECTIONS BEFORE YOU CALL CST CARE TO FIND OUT HOW TO USE YOU PHONE…..I get more calls with people asking how to change there myfaves, ring tone, volume, check their voicemail…need I say more…. take 30 min to look over the manual and another hour to play with the phone before you call us to get help….I have also read in hear before that cst service is not as nice as they use to be… I WONDER why getting bombarded with STUPID @55 questions….

  • Alex

    T-mobile T-Mobile T_mobile…

    When will people realize that although we are in somewhat of a struggle, lower prices = more people.
    Equals everyone wins!

    +/

  • kyouki

    To many people are just jumping to concutions! Just chill and wait for the changes, first don’t worry if your grandfather you get to keep your rates, second the kids on here saying can’t wait for t-mobile to force me so I can get out of my terms, stop being dumb, tmobile not breaking any terms because they are not changing your current terms there inforcing future contract you sign when geting a data plan so give that one up you agreed to your contract, witch if you read states tmobile hold the right to change rates at anytime. 3rd this is a good thing it does cost tmobile a lot money that customers don’t understand, it takes an average of 10 months for tmobile to make money off a new customer this will speed that up allowing for faster groth. And sorry for any bad grammer or misspells I am also using my g1 to post very fast, and guess what it with a data plan!

  • J

    More customers means more operating costs. The network does not have limitless capabilities. It has to be expanded as more people get on it. So, more people also means more cost. 3G only adds to the cost. In my market, we already pay millions of dollars a year for 2G circuits. 3G will probably increase monthly costs for circuits by about 35-40% initially. As more customers get on 3G, that will likely double. If T-Mobile were to keep data plan prices the way they are, they would not be able to provide faster data rates due to that cost. It may cost you a few customers, but if you deliver the data rates you will gain more profitable customers. Those are the customers you will need if you want to build out a 3G network and begin a 4G network.

  • Ben

    This is BS! This seems to punish the loyal customers who have patiently been waiting for the 3G footprint to hit their cities.

  • JustAnotherEmployee

    This argument should be looked at from a different perspective: T-Mobile has recently lowered the prices on a number of rate plans – the 49.99 Loyalty rate plan, the 1800 minute MyFaves plan with M2M for the same price as 1000 minutes without M2M are just two examples – to compete with the Metro/Boost crowd, so it is clear that T-Mobile is still trying to reach the low-cost/high-value subscriber.

    On the other hand, if you’ve got the money for a new smartphone in this troubled economic envoronment, and are not simply buying one to impress the chicks at the club, you NEED a data plan and can probably afford it, too.

    REMEMBER THIS, though:

    If this change adversely affects the bottom line, i.e., if T-Mobile starts bleeding customers because of the new data plan requirements, believe me, the Big Boys in Bellevue will drop it in record time.

  • Ron

    I’m wondering if Tmobile will do this in shifts? For 3g areas and non 3g areas. I have been with Tmobile for over 6 years and out of contract and was looking forward to the TP2 but was not going to get the data plan until they established 3g in my area. I just can’t see paying that much for edge service.

    @JustAnother Employee

    I know Tmobile would change if they start bleeding but the damage might already have been done. I can see the person now “I have to pay that much for edge???!!!??” Just don’t think that it’s a good idea right now. If they have a major 3g deployment before this it might be fine.

  • Steve

    @justanotheremployee

    In your opinion do you see tmobile possibly lowering the price of their data plans to retain their value focus? The reason I ask is that I’ve been under the assumption that they are just going to force everyone to add a $30 data plan, plus messaging etc now you are priced with verizon for edge service while everyone else is on 3g.

    IF that holds true then sprint will replace tmobile as a value leader given the benefits/pricing of their family data plan.

    What do you think?

  • Heather

    Remember that VZW’s 25 dollar data plan only covers data… for that phone. Where as TMo’s data plans (even on their 3G devices) cover a higher GB (VZW is 5GB, before they throtle you), 400 messages, and allows for tethered modem on supported devices. To get that on a VZW phone you would have to pay sixty and get a messaging plan, and the speeds for their none rev A devices (read most of their PDAs) is really not all that much faster then a UMTS device, and in some cases slower then HSDPA.

  • bryant

    im sorry but forcing data plans is just too much. i am a college student at Long Beach State and everyday i check my email before i go to class to see if a class is canceled, reminders from professors. For me, the data plan is useless because one i enter the parking lot of the school wifi is available, not only at the parking lot but all through out the school. What is the need for data when you have wifi. It will not only enable me to browse the web but also updates email clients and wheather and all that good stuff. other than that i dont need the data plan outside school but at home which i also do not need because i have wifi running in the house. but when im on the go. i only use my phone to make calls as well as receive calls. i say we should have the decision whether or not we should add a data plan to our phone. My blackberry does what it needs to do when i get to school, to inform me through email, and when i get bored in class i browse the internet.