Android myth busting…or not?

There have been no less than half a dozen threads popping up in the forums these past few days as to the identity of the “real” Android device. Some believe it to be real and just wish for its release, regardless of looks. Some however, say “something” so much grander is coming, of course providing no details as to what makes something “grander.” See here for that discussion. Now, I’m not one who enjoys blind speculation so I may be the most hesitant of all to give credence to the rumors of a second device. I believe whats tangible and in front of me. Documents, pictures, release dates and pricing give me reason to believe what I have seen, that what I can “touch” is real. With that in mind could it be that Google, T-mobile, HTC and quite a few other to be named later entities have pulled off the greatest April Fools trick the wireless industry has ever seen?

Last week Androidguys wrote something of a similar sort taking the phone from “dream to prototype.” They like I am right now pose the question, are the leaked designs, the grainy video with the Darth Vader stand in, the fcc documents and the recent “in the wild” pictures indicative of the final product? Some of us want to believe so, you’ll buy anything that T-mobile releases with Android and most won’t blame you. A device like this with all its promise, with the backing of an application market, touchscreen and gps finally gives us hope that T-mobile has realized that pricing alone won’t overtake #3.

Should something else come up, should Google, T-mobile and HTC succeed in pulling the wool over our eyes than I will be the first among hundreds of blogs to print the new happenings. I’ll give praise to all who deceived us for their expert disinformation campaign and the goose chases they had us on trying to track down the truth. So here’s to you Google, the king among Internet pranksters, prove all of us wrong.

So I leave you with those thoughts, just a few words to ponder and now I’ll throw it over to the forums where the discussion continues and passionately so. Expand and elaborate on what I have said, I only barely scratched the surface of what already has become a heated debate as the release dates and launch approach.

Discussions continue here, here and here.

  • SheShe

    I think if the phone does differ it will not be completely different but it will be sleeker and more visually appealing

  • BlackBerryUSER

    Alright. I will go out on the limb and say. From the photos I have seen so far – the bottom part of the phone which has the buttons on it – it almost looks like a Gerber made toy for for tots. I’m really not impressed by this phone – I’m not sure what the hype is all about either. I think the phone looks like a toy. I guess I need a phone that looks elegant – and this Google phone just doesn’t even come close to it. It looks like a toy.

  • StillTMO

    I totally agree. I would rather get a BlackBerry Curve WITHOUT 3G rather than this cheap looking half a** brother of a Sidekick.
    All this hype was would turn out to be a fluke if this is the final phone & would reconfirm TMobile’s image as a cell phone company for teenagers.

  • T1 Connect

    dudes that is not thhe final product man ive seen razr’s thats more appealing that is a freakin prototype like she she said it will look like it but it will be more eye catching than than and even so if it is the final product im not waiting anymore i am getting it i dont care how ugly people say it is ya bunch of haters.

  • nesha

    i agree with you guys.
    my friend has that new sidekick. . . an its like sooo. . .
    childish. like who cares if you can change the shells. but i guess people my age(17) do. . but i dont. and i also agree that, that google phone does look like a toy and i dont see whats all this hype about. its ugly. and nobody wants an ugly phone. imo.

  • SheShe

    People are more excited about the potential of android than the actual phone… as long as it does what I need it 2 do that fone isn’t that bad

  • hope fully it wont be that ugly the dash loosk better than that

  • WazzuKirk

    Hey guys, I don’t buy a phone for the looks. If you are a guy that buys a phone for the looks of it, give me a break. Buy a phone for the technology, and this phone will be awesome.

  • T1 Connect

    ya know what im emailing htc google and tmo right now and telling them to show us the damn phone im getting tired of this shit.

  • StillTMO

    @ T1 Connect
    Let us know when you hear back from them. TMO CS reps seems to be clueless. On hearing the word Android/Google, they were like WHAT????
    @ Wazzukirk
    And yes I do care what I phone can do in terms of technology but come on..HTC usually makes much better designs than this things we’re seeing so I am disappointed.

  • DR

    Here’s my observation. Look at all the phones the HTC has made in the last year and a half. They have all been better looking than this “prototype”. I would completely lose respect for HTC if they released this phone unchanged. They made a PR statement not too long ago that they wanted to increase their market presence by the end of the year. If this phone comes out as ugly as it is currently, I find it hard to believe that they could back up this statement.

    Don’t get me wrong, I will buy this phone if all the specs are true and it has true gps for google maps and turn by turn directions. But, like most red-blooded males, I can’t say that looks are unimportant. I want a phone that looks good. Is that so wrong? Can’t I be a chauvanist when it comes to my cell phone?

  • I’m betting that the final product will look exactly like the photos we’ve seen, just with better material/finish. I don’t see it looking like an iPhone 3G, but I do see it having the same quality finish as, say, a Dash.

  • StillTMO

    hey, I totally second your thoughts. Keeping my fingers crossed.

  • SheShe

    I agree wit DR the fonr could use work but is that gonna stop me from buyin it? I think not… I think htc tmobile and google need to make this the best possible phone…. having the first android phone be something that most people think is ugly won’t be good for google and t mobile NEEDS somethin to bring more customers

  • justinhub2003

    i think looks plays a small part in the equation as far as eye catching appeal, i mean as a man i dont first glance at a girl and go “man look at the personality on that girl” so i think looks are what reel you in but looks alone dont have the power to keep me interested, i like smart girls and i like smart phones, so the sexy appeal will wear off if the function is horrible, ill take that decent looking girl with a lot of personality over a sexy chick who is retarded and just arm (hand) candy any day. i will be buying the phone on presale or launch day depending on the 3g only presale thing. i like the phone and its not that ugly is just different, and the black one i bet is way sexier, i accept what i am seeing now and will be content with it and if it goes off and exceeds my expectations then awesome. people live off exaggerated optimism and wonder why they also being letting down, be a realist.

  • StillTMO

    Quick Question. How many of you posting here on this entry are over 21? Just trying to figure the preferences and thought processes based on age. I am over..

  • justinhub2003

    over

  • SheShe

    Under (20)

  • justinhub2003

    24

  • T1 Connect

    listen this could be phase two of the demo stage has anyone seen the black version slide or any refrences to a keypad or maybe the white one is the final product stripped down for testing

  • David

    Over…do I count though? hehe

  • StillTMO

    haha..NO..

  • TomCruise

    Looks aren’t everything. What’s inside matters! Take the iPhone for example. People were drooling over the looks, but now so many people have so many issues with it and are disappointed.

    There isn’t a perfect phone, there’ll never be.

    This one looks good. Test units are known to be grainy unlike the actual for sale ones that are smooth. Only issue i see is with the keyboard being on the left.

    I will buy it only if I get it for $150 (i live in Chicago where 3g will be switched only oct 1) and even then if I know for sure this will support some sort of doc/xl/txt files and gets me access to my non-gmail emails with an outlook type application.

    i am over

  • StillTMO

    Is there any confirmation of how the pre-sale will work? I am in Washington DC area so will I not be able to order this if we dont have 3G in our area by September 17? That’d be lame..Any ideas?

  • Evan

    24 and thank god people are starting to see this thing as an ugly brick that it is. Hopefully this is still the prototype and these guys are just screwing with us. none the less i’m still going to buy this phone when it comes out. i miss my qwerty more than anything (broke my dash and have been using some moto crap phone). looks and Software should be hand in hand. people wont look twice at something unless it has some sort of attraction physically. And knowing HTC and the phones they put out i think is also a reason so many people are disappointed with what they have seen so far. I mean couldnt you just drop this platform on a touch pro and ship it out. I would be in love with them for life. TMOBILE PLEASE ALLOW US TO GET THAT PHONE. YOU WOULD COMPLETE MY LIFE!

  • T1 Connect

    yo ya heard the jobsphone or any othe at&crap phone has no data coverage on the eastern seaboard 2&3g glad i got tmo

  • justinhub2003

    i honestly think the touch dianmond and touch pro are sexy but as far as what im lookin for and being functional, i dont like type on a screen (diamond) and i dont like the keyboard on the touch pro, the buttons on the keyboard are so close together, thats why i like the design of the Dream, i dont think that button size has as much to do with a good functional keyboard as much as spaces between each key, thats what important to me and makes me type fast and more importantly more accurate. i said it before but i think the dream is set up just like you would be at a PC with monitor in front, spacious keyboard directly below and a mouse to the right (the track ball) so you can totally avoid the touchscreen why typing stuff, and then you can close the phone and use it iphone or touch diamond style if you want to, how is that not a functional phone if there is such a thing.

  • justinhub2003

    sorry bout the grammer, i have to type fast, im at work.

  • TomCruise

    unrelated, but is anybody in chicago area able to connect to surf the net on tmo edge today?

  • T1 Connect

    yo ive been trying to order the tm506 for di wife not able to called tmo and asked why all they said was the pricing and availability still says to be announced i dont get it tmo themselves said they were releasing the phone today and nothing you think there playing a game with us well i dont think that sh… is funny

  • TomCruise

    bummer, i was planning on getting the tm506 for my wife. hope this wait isn’t long.

  • HannahMontanaSwallows

    Look, love or hate the phone, speculation over the final product can be simplified by answering this question:

    How many times have manufacturers and providers had prototypes ‘leak’ and it NOT resemble the final product?

    Now if this was rampant and we had a lot leaks that ended up NOT being the final product, then I would understand why we might think this.

    But if it never-to-rarely ever happens… then what is all the wishful hating go on? It’s most likely the final product.

    I’m not too crazy about design but I am wanting a 3G touchscreen, PDA phone without switching to At&t or Verizon. So my choices are…..???

    Right.

  • mojo fett

    just a thought. . . the images look like the same phone that was being shown at the google I/O. They maybe have tested this design, lived with it, and decided that since it was proven to release it. Also they probably wanted to make sure that the first Android phone would have all the bells and whistles that were shown. Now, they may change the shell on the phone, but I net anything that the chassis inside stays the same. Just an opinion.

  • mojo fett

    oh. . .37

  • Jeff C

    Is anyone else dying waiting for another detail to ‘leak’ about the G1? I’m more excited to get a new tidbit of info than I am to get the phone itself… thrill of the chase and all that.

    Seriously, this could be the right guts in a mock-up case… car manufacturers do the same thing with their new models by covering them in plastic panels or using “dazzle” camouflage to hide the angles of the body panels when they’re out testing on the road.

    If that’s the case, fine, if not, fine as well… this phone looks OK. I honestly can’t think of one thing to add to it that would make it look any better except change the “MENU” on the menu button to an icon.

    My last HTC device (a Wizard) had all sorts of crazy bevels, buttons everywhere, screen had a bezel 1/8″ deep around the LCD, and it was almost an inch thick. I’ll take anything over that.

    As long as it isn’t covered in the stupid rubber paint because it’s a real chore to get a phone covered in that stuff out of your pants pocket if you’re sitting.

    BTW: I’m 32 and I seriously think I’m over this phone’s target demographic… The iPhone is a fashonphone for adults, this seems like it’s gaining momentum as a fashionphone for teens and young adults.

  • Fbarkon

    I’m 32 and I want the phone regardless. I’m not a teeny booper but gps, mp3, and the full internet in my pocket. Like OMG!!! I know 50 year olds that will gladly buy this phone.

  • Burn After Reading

    The REAL T-Mobile G-1/ Dream can be seen here, http://www.the01phone.com. You all have been looking at prototypes for to long..enjoy the countdown ;-)

  • tmofan23

    OK… so why does this have to be a “prank” or the companies pulling the “wool over our eyes”

    Keep in mind they have NOT released anything. – These are all people who have had pictures of some devices.

    the schematics that were released did not show the actual phone just the back and side. thats IT!

    SO if the phone is released and its different than the darth vader video or the most recent pictures, its not because we have had the wool pulled over our eyes by HTC, Google or T-Mobile, its because WE, ourselves, bought into the deception that other people who had test units unleashed on the net, nothing more, nothing less.

    Remember, all three companies have not publicly released ANYTHING!

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ Burn After Reading

    I doubt that’s the Dream/G1

  • Juan

    I’m getting the phone regardless, but I do think this “prototype” is fug. I have faith that the final product will be a bit sleeker based solely on the product HTC has been releasing for the past year. I honestly don’t think T-Mobile could afford for this phone to tank over aesthetic. For those reasons, I believe it’s a prototype. It’s possible for some things to be veiled in secrecy…however…when Tha Carter III leaked, everyone thought it was fake. Then it turned out to be real. Same thing happened with a Tool album a while back if I remember correctly. I guess we’ll know in the coming days, but please, T-Mo/HTC/Google – don’t stamp your name on this ugly baby because I don’t know if I could resist some of those pretty 3G enabled unlocked devices available on eBay and other sites. Give us a real dream!

    Oh, and I’m 22.

  • Juan

    @ J-Hop

    it’s not. it’s not even a real phone…I remember someone debunking the same link a few days ago in another post.

  • J-Hop2o6

    @ Burn After Reading

    that link u posted up was proven to be a FAKE!!!

    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/24/the-01-phone-coming-in-27-days-wait-what-is-the-01-phone/

  • T1 Connect

    @all android lovers google just released chrome web browser witch will also be in android according to google they own everything you do on chrome EVERY SINGLE THING hmmmm that might be a problem check out the article:
    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/09/03/google-chrome-assumes-ownership-of-your-soul/

  • Jeff C

    T1 – they revised that EULA so it isn’t as “OMGWTFBBQ”

    I like the Chrome browser…. the only thing it doesn’t have is a “Home” button to go back to the start page.

  • RockTripod

    Seriously, do people really think the photos that have been leaked AND the video AND the FCC filing is part of some vast conspiracy?? The Dream is the phone we’ve seen and is the finished project. Its even got T-Mo branding on it! That’s not a prototype. And it looks good, if a little lopsided. And for those who think you’ll hae trouble reaching the top right keys on the QWERTY, take a look at a sidekick. Recessed keyboard, with raised side on both sides. I’ve never heard anyone say typing on that was difficult in 3 years of selling the product.

  • T1 Connect

    when did they revise that it just came out yesterday and i understand the omg the wtf but the bbq if ya wanna come over i got some stakes we could smoke somthing and grill and eat.i got the chicks

  • G-Funk

    @ Jeff C

    The home button can be enabled from the Options. Just click on the wrench, then options, then “Show Home button on the toolbar”.

  • SheShe

    FYI this was posted in the forums http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=834467493

  • V for …

    Actually Jeff you have the option of having a Home button in chrome but it took me two minutes to find it in the preferences.

  • T1 Connect

    @she she i freaking love ya thats reason enough to know that that phone we see is not the dream the way hes talking you know it is difinetly going to be a iphone killer. thank you.

  • SheShe

    that was on the on the 28th they know that they have to have a great product so i think we will be surprised

  • T1 Connect

    damn they wont tell anyone anyting this gotta go down in history well im going mobile ill keep up on the wing.

  • SheShe

    well at least its any day now…

  • T1 Connect

    word right i cant freakin wait

  • Some Dude

    @ #30,31
    The TM506 was pushed back to Friday the 5th. Some kind of issue with T-Zones.

  • Some Dude

    @ 30,31
    TM506 delayed until Friday

    Oh and I’m 29. Looks are about 25 percent of the equation. Though nobody else has mentioned it, size is really the part of looks that people are concerned over. How “pocketable” is the phone is more important than the actual aesthetics. I’m surprised that people haven’t been specifically debating that instead of looks.

  • just me

    @she she and t1connect…..Ty very much for the link and i agree with you both…I do believe we have a new I PHONE KILLER……BOUT TIME

  • T1 Connect

    i keep looking at this thing over and over, and another thing i noticed is that the border around the screen is ke the wing. shouldnt they put a borderless screen like the diamond. i mean they kind of learned that a borderless screen makes it easier for you to touch things in the corner of it. the diamond is borderless so is the touch pro and even the s740. stick to the script. thats why i keep thinking this is a prototype

  • MaxAndre

    you guys need to make up your mind.When we didn’t have any ,picture and info,you guys were complaining.Now that we have some sketches as well as a picture of an almost finished product,you guys are still complaining what gives??

  • just me

    Trust me its a prototype…I have seen everything that HTC has to offerr and not one of there phones are ugly…In fact i love the look of everryone of them…and i feel that in about a week we will all see what we have been waiting for and be knocked off our feet at what we see.

  • T1 Connect

    dagw i seriously hope so

  • just me

    @max..We are t mobile customers…..We have plenty to complain about….every other phone carrier came out with great phones to long ago while t mobile stuck with the same ol same ol so we expect a phone like no other and we deserve it.

  • Jeff C

    T1: http://gizmodo.com/5045050/google-updating-chrome-eula-to-be-less-creepy

    and

    http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Omgwtfbbq

    G-Funk: thanks a lot!

    BTW: Chrome has CTRL-TAB switching between tabs in the window.. always wanted an easy way to switch between tabs

  • what a pointless post. no new news=wax a little bit about nothing, plug our forums, make it look like news.

    your friend,
    mrwindupbird

  • beardeddraggons

    @some dude…the TM506-Amber was available online today for upgrades (159.99 with no contract extension and 79.99 with a full upgrade) and my local T-Mobile store had the green and amber one there to play with and buy today, 79.99 new 2 yr contract or full upgrade and 129.99 for a 1 yr new contract or upgrade.

    I’m going to buy the Dream for it’s functionality although I have to say I don’t care for the looks very much either. the bottom part just looks so out of place.

  • David

    Sorry you feel that way mrwindupbird…but there is a clearly a discussion that is increasing in strength and purpose for the argument against what we have seen being the real phone. Its worth addressing because its relevant.

  • silk7

    Two things.
    1.in the last video.didn’t the software look buggie? Maybe delay?

    2. if the presale is sept 17- where’s all the hype? delay?

  • T1 Connect

    ya know i was wondering about that comment mrwinupbird posted how are u going to come in the discussion and disrespect the mans post. come on man have some respect

  • T1 Connect

    @beardeddraggonsn dude i just tried to upgrade my wifes phone with my tombile that phone isn’t even in the list and qualifies for a full upgrade.

  • beardeddraggons

    @T1Connect….wow, now I look and it’s gone out of my upgrade section too. It was there (the Amber one only) this afternoon (but not this morning when I looked)…..I looked at the prices before going to my local store. I played with both of them at the store. I took my daughter to get a phone and she almost got that one, but ended up getting a T819 since all the Samsungs are free now. I tried to talk her into the Sony, but free won out for her. Weird how it disappeared from my upgrade availability online though…

  • T1 Connect

    i hope thats not the way they go about conductiong the presale for the dream adding it for a couple of hours and then taking it off watch me and that presale im getting that phone.

  • beardeddraggons

    I hope not too. I’ve been so looking forward to the dream. Already after reading about the possibility of it only being available for presale to those with 3G already has me nervous. Ours isn’t slated until Oct. 1.

  • SheShe

    Has the presale rumor been confirmed or is it still not 100%?

  • StillTMO

    Well, based on so many of the posts submitted on TMONEWS by a guy who claims to be a TMobile CS rep, it seems that a promotion like that is made known to the TMobile customer services folks at least 2 weeks in advance. I called them yesterday and they were clueless so I am seriously doubting this pre-sale thing. I really dont care if I have to wait till October as I dont have 3G in my market anyways.

  • SheShe

    Well I spoke to one repesentative that told they sometimes don’t find out until the day of or the week before…

  • PittsburghGuy

    What I don’t understand about the pre-sale is why Tmobile would ‘punish’ customers because its taken them a decade to roll out their 3G…also, when are they going to officially announce the presale – the 17th an hour before it happens? Seems odd..

  • Remnique

    Sorry everyone, this is going to be the final version,

    1. TMobile wants to be first
    2. Google don’t want another delay
    3. too many things point to this being the final, all the leaked pics, the sketches and the sketch in the fcc docs.

    All they will do is clean it up, spit shine and polish it.

    Its the sidekicks bastard little brother, geared towards teenagers, and with everyone on hear saying they don’t care about the looks, they are f*@cking lying, because if they put android on a brick they wouldn’t buy it. they want to be first and forgive tmo and google for this tragedy of a phone.

  • StillTMO

    @ EVERYONE!!!

    I am so sick of this discussion. Last post on this thread. I’ll check “mytmobile” on the 17th of September and then then again on the 13th of October. If I like what I see then I will buy it otherwise I’ll wait for some other phone.

  • John

    I’m intersted in the Android phone, but also like Microsoft Outlook (for my business). Does the Android Dream phone sync with Outlook?

  • David

    @sheshe, pittsburghguy

    I really still can’t say with 100% certainty that the 3G zip code rule is positively taking place. I know there IS some kind of a limitation or you will at least be advised of the limitations of using in an edge only area, but there is still conflicting information as to whether or not the zip code policy is in place.

  • SheShe

    Ok thanks!

  • NoItsNotOkayToHaveAUrineFetish

    I don’t get the ‘Sidekick for teens’ comment.

    First of all… SIDEKICK is the Sidekick for teens.

    2ndly, I thought Android was suppose to be a full function OS w/ PDA abilities and apps? That’s a far cry from the crappy Sidekick.

    Am I wrong? I like WinMo and I’ve seen what the iPhone does and I have history w/ Nokia and Symbian… it would disappoint me if Android is more just a pretty ‘dumb’phone and not an actual smartphone/PDA OS.

  • T1 Connect

    wasn’t windows mobile crappy when 5 came out and they have a billion apps and tweaks for it hell right now im running a stripped down diamond rom on my wing. if android is crappy which it wont be it will get better over time im sayin it again give the phone a chance to grow and stop hatin

  • PittsburghGuy

    @David

    Thanks! So – this may be a dumb question but what if I have my friend who lives in a 3G area pre-order the phone? Would that work? She has a Pearl and no desire for Android?

    Thanks in advance.

  • Goog411

    If I were Google or HTC and I cared about my stock price (especially if I was Google), I would never release this ugly piece of shyte. This would hurt me as a company and hurt my foray into the web and advertising aspects on cell phones. Note that I didn’t mention if I was T-Mobile USA as T-Mobile USA has had a history of disappointments in terms of phones and network development for a long time. SO my take on this is that this cannot be the final phone as that would be a colossal blunder.

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